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A friend of mine has given me a list of everything I need to begin home developing with prices. I will dump these now.

Any suggestions or tips or cheaper/better alternatives are welcome.

So here’s a run down of what you’ll need to start developing B&W film at home. Once you’ve got the set up and used it a few times it’s super easy. This is the set up that I started out with that allows you to develop two rolls of 35mm at once or one roll of 120 roll film.

Patterson film developing kit: http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Paterson-Film-Processing-Kit/product/1775/PTP573/
Contains most of the chemical equipment you’ll need apart from an additional graduate as below, which isn’t totally necessary but allows you to have your developer, stop and fixer all line up and ready to go

Additional 600ml graduate: http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Paterson-600ml-Graduate/product/50072/PTP304/

Changing bag: http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Kaiser-Changing-Bag-16x17-Inch-6390/product/757/K6390/
This is needed to unspool the film onto the developing reel in the dark

Film leader retriever: http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Kaiser-Film-Leader-Retriever-4132/product/87609/K4132/
For retrieving the end of the film from the canister.

Chemicals

Ilford Ilfosol 3 Developer: http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Ilford-Ilfosol-3-Film-Film-Developer-500ml/product/481/1131778/
Developer, will develop about 16 rolls depending on dilution

Ilford Ilfostop Stop Bath: http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Ilford-Ilfostop-500ml-Stop-Bath-500ml/product/20578/1893870/
Stops the developing process, will cover about 15 films worth

Ilford Rapid Fix: http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Ilford-Rapid-Fixer-500ml-500ml/product/923/1984253/
Fixes the film for archiving

Ilford Ilfotol: http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Ilford-Ilfotol-Wetting-Wetting-Agent-1L/product/73018/1905162/
A wetting agent that helps the film dry quickly and helps stop drying marks.

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You also might want to get hold of some negative sleeves to store them in: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391595740655?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

So once you’ve got all that stuff it’s good to get familiar with the process. YouTube will be your best bet, here are a few videos to look at: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=black+and+white+film+developing

Also, Ilford have a brilliant PDF with step by step instructions: http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/200629163442455.pdf

Also, this one is great: http://theartofphotography.tv/episodes/photography-lessons/the-ultimate-guide-to-developing-black-and-white-film/

The most useful and invaluable thing I use is the Digital Truth Massive Dev Chart app. It lets you select the film, developer and film speed and gives you a timer and cue sheet with visual and audible warnings to work to. Makes the whole process so much easier! It’s £6.99 but totally worth it.

If you want to scan your own film then it’s best to get a dedicated scanner to do the job. I use an Epson V330 which has just been updated - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Epson-Perfection-Scanner-ReadyScan-Technology/dp/B009EOPQD4/ref=dp_ob_title_ce Pretty cheap and reliable!
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I've worked out that I would need to spend £230 for all the stuff and a scanner. This amounts to the cost of around 11 rolls of film in my local photo developers..... Developing is so expensive.

The drawback is that I could only develop black and white at home but I'm okay with that.
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>>2998047
you can do colour at home too, but it's a little bit more involved - i.e. generally requires more accurate (and higher) temperature and time control. it's still pretty cheap, maybe 1-2€ per 35mm roll. i've found colour film to be generally cheaper than b&w, too, so that partially makes up for the higher chemical costs.
it's still much cheaper than developing film professionally. scanning does take time though.
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>>2998043
So what's the net cpr?
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If you want to cheapen things up a bit...

You don't need:
>film retriever
I don't even understand why you need this. Any simple can opener will crack a roll of film open easily. Film retrievers are for pulling film back out after you've accidently wound it all the way up prematurely.

>graduated cylinder
You definitely need one, but go buy a measuring cup from a dollar/pound store for christ's sake.

>stop bath
I stopped using this. I just do a very fast rinse right after developing and go straight to the fixer. No problemo.

>changing bag
If you have a closet or bathroom with no windows use that instead. Shove a towel under the door and turn the lights off outside the closet/bathroom. Changing bags are a bitch.

>Massive Dev Chart App
WTF? What's wrong with just using the website and looking up the time...for free?
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>>2998708
That depends how many rolls you develop... Most of this stuff is a one-off cost.

>>2998713
Thanks for your input. Good points here.
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>>2998713
Might as well get a change bag they're handy to have and vinegar can be used as a stop too. Liquid soap can be used as photoflo (but it's so cheap might as well buy it). Also most of this shit can be found for pennies on used market, check local ads and thrift/flea markets. Colour is just as easy as b&w just get a thermometer temp is usually around 95-105 degrees, there are tons of ways to achieve a consistent tempature, fill a sink with 115f water and leave your chem in there or use a cheap water heater and keep cycling water in a tub etc. It's a quicker and easier process then b&w imo.
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>>2999578
What's good about having a changing bag if you have a windowless room? I'd much rather have my bathroom counter to work on in pitch black than some shitty bag that gets hot and sweaty.
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Thank you for making this thread OP, it came at just the right time. I was about to start digging around to find all this info and you listed it all in a comprehensive manner.

If it wasn't for threads like this I would've bailed out of here long ago.
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Don't forget a clock with a second hand - timing is critical. Could use phone clock I guess.
A pair of rubber tongs to wipe/squeegee off the final rinse can aid drying time of the neg roll once hung up.
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>>2999981
You can put it down and walk away any time. Can't do that with a room unless you have a way to leave the room without letting in light.
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