Why are CCD sensor images so comfy, bros? I have never seen

Just get a Fuji

Sony shills are specs fags "muh 1 million AF points and shitty build quality"

Fuji friends are IQ connoisseurs, and when IQ is the question, X-TRANS is god.

>>2954226

Lol you got auto filtered, you must have said the magic words. Lmao @ shills.

>>2954226
>OP makes thread about CCD sensors
>Gear fag anon immediately starts brand shit posting

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>>2954225
I occasionally use Nikon D80 (one of the last CCD DSLRs), and it definitely doesnt look a lot like film. I was curious about CCD/CMOS difference and did some comparisons. I compared D80 with several CMOS cameras, and color difference was miniscule. What is obvious however at 100% magnification is that CCD has less noise on low ISO settings.

Pic related is a comparison with probably the worst CMOS you can still find in few modern cameras.

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>>2954237
I expected noisier shadows because Canon lol(other manufacturers would be much better there), but i didn't expect the same in the highlights.

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>>2954239

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>>2954241
my eos m is not that noisy at iso 100.

>>2954269
noob

>>2954269
I reduced highlights and brightened the shadows for about a stop i think. Also, this is 100% crop, that's why its more apparent.

>>2954237

>ETTR
>problem solved

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CCD is really the best.

CMOS can't touch this.

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>>2954225
>ccd

Hnnnnng

I wish people and manufacturers would stop putting price and convinience over quality, only good digital cameras are ones with ccd's

>>2954756
Why doesn't Leica use CCDs?

Just go and buy a Fuji S5 Pro, that was the apex of CCD design.

>>2954834

Doesn't the M8?

>>2954834
The m8 used a ccd and I've heard it's a god tier sensor, the newer Leicas have cmos sensor but the m9 sensor was pretty similar to a ccd sensor

>>2954225
These fkn colors

Gonna dust off my g10

>>2954736
>Maximum Lens Aperture f/5.7
>F-Number f/5.6

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Really should get me an old cybershot again.

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Old tech is comfy to use for fun, or some 'art'. I can't see a CCD sensor being used for professional uses this days.

only if you use a really good CCD for portraits, but even astrophotography are going CMOS :(

>>2955095
>>2954834
m9 had a fuji CCD sensor.

I wonder why fuji never made a FF CCD DSLR using the nikon mount.

>>2955115
Maybe some problem with the Nikkor 18-55 AF-S VRII?

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C C D
C
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M8 or M9 with those yummy aspherican crons is one of the best CCD looking photos ever.

>>2955195
Oops my bad I thought it was a coma, no wonder it's so good

Also I thought the Leica sensors were made by Kodak or is that just the m240?

>>2955197
More g10 shots!

>tfw I bought a G10 after seeing this thread

>>2955115
absolute madman

All color is a result of processing.

Maybe on older cameras the default processing is more film like because people were still used to seeing film prints.

Most modern cameras have neutral colors to accurately represent the real world, except for Canon who boosts saturation to appeal to 13 year old girls.

When you shoot raw it can all be changes in post.
And even when shooting JPEG most cameras allow you to change color profiles in camera.

>>2954226
No high frequency detail. I had two fuji cameras and eventually got so sick of the mushing. X-trans is good for skin and architecture but terrible for foliage and landscapes or anything else with high frequency info. If you ever get a camera with a foveon you'll realize just how wrong you are.

>>2955465
Oh look here, someone got into photography 2 months ago and watched some tony Northrup and Jared polin videos and now she thinks she knows everything about photography!

>>2955465
>except for Canon who boosts saturation to appeal to 13 year old girls.

I lost muh shit in this sentence KEK'D

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>>2955120
>>

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>>2955416
There you go, a monochrome one.

>>2955435
This might be the best (You) ive ever had here. I hope you enjoy the camera, its lovely.

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>>2955640
i like mine, af is slow and the lcd is crap but dat ccd

>>2955254
m9 had a Kodak CCD sensor.

>>2955606
You don't lean how to trigger Canon users in 2 months, kid.
That takes years of practice and dedication.

>>2955851
Sure buddy

>>2955465
Holy fuck, lol

>>2955640
>>2955435
I bought one too

>>2954225
>opens image
>maximum oversharpening
>still blinking and seeing residual optical effects

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can anyone actually explain what the aesthetic of ccd is and why it can be preferable over cmos? From what I understand, the type of sensor has no play in what colors come out, they only read monochrome light intensity which means that both sensors will read the same image. Is it the early 2000s vibe that everyone's raving over or the natural colors? Apparently not because of the response >>2955465 got, which has some truth to it as in being able to post process to get the same color effect.

>>2954237
less noise but not as sharp

>>2956404

It's just misguided nostalgia, buddy. These kids weren't actually around for the terrible CCD era and read a post on some forum written by a retrogrouch curmudgeon who was happy to attribute his golden days of photography to magic qualities of a bygone sensor. They assume it to be true because they don't know any better, and thence go forth to create stupid threads on a Japanese pop-up advertising board for my amusement.

>>2956327

the only residual here is you.

>>2956309
>I bought one too

Wait what, because of this thread?

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This is SOOC jpeg just resized plus a hint of sharpness.

Dunno about you guys but i think it looks top fr*cken ep*c.

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>>2954225

On the other hand, here is what """"""""""medium format killer""""""""" d800e can do aka. videogamey fake garbage with shit colors and no depth.

>>2956428
Yeah.

Although I woke up this morning and realized I already had a DSLR with a CCD. The G10 is probably still convenient enough for me though.

>>2956673
...and just realizing that every camera I own is a CCD.
I need to fucking buy a camera made this decade.

>>2956413
ah, as I thought

either way i can enjoy the aesthetic, as misguided as it is

>>2956441
>>2956440

they look exactly the same, one is shot telephoto and the other wide. My rx100 water shots look exactly like this when I run them through vsco

>>2956673
>>2956309
What is a good price for a G10? I might get in on the meme.

>>2956673
>Yeah.

>>2956764
>I might get in on the meme.

Did i start the fire?

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>CuCkolD
What did they mean by this?

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>>2954225
tbqh I don't find the rendition of that picture particularly nice. Probably because of the excessive sharpening.

>>2956764
I paid £140
I'm sure I got ripped off, I was drunk at the time.

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>>2956795
and the fire rises

>>2956831
not to rustle your jimmies my friend but honestly the g10 isnt all that amazing, the ccd is pretty great but the camera is just too old

if youre making good money then its all good but there are much better film and even digital cameras for the same price

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ill post a couple ccd shots

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>>2956909

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>>2956911

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>>2956913
and 2 gr pics from same day

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>>2956917

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>>2956907
Yeah I'm not expecting anything amazing out of it but it'll be fun to use I'm sure.

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>>2956919

expect some cool stuff, buddy. it feels good and sits solid in the hands too because its kind of chunky, which will only be a problem if you have girly hands.

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>>2954225
What is it about CCDs that's so great?

I started shooting two years ago on a Pana LX3. Love it. Bought an X100S thinking it would be a big step up, and in many ways it is, but the images seem so sterile, so digital. I worked on my processing but could never match the vibrance and feel of the LX3 images. Sure my images are sharper, but they don't have the same liveliness, not sure how to explain it. It's not until recently I found one has a CCD and the other is CMOS.

I've asked in threads before and been dismissed, but is there really some difference between the two which gives the CCD images a different feel?

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>>2954225
Oh and just FYI:

"The Canon G10 is the best compact digital camera I've ever used" - Ken Rockwell.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/g10.htm

Also check them lights on top. Sweet and hi-tech without looking dumb.
Grip? Amazing grip.
Dials? Hell yes.

>>2956931
One thing i have found is that you can boost saturation it it wont turn into color retardation, but into a more saturated picture. You can do that with film scans too. CMOS turns into videogame looking shit very quickly.

>>2956935
>installs lights in light tight box

>>2956931
there is no actual difference between the two sensors color or light wise

install vsco

>>2956931
>is there really some difference between the two which gives the CCD images a different feel

Nothing except that they're noisier, and that they come from a time when different colour processing was popular.
That changes with fashion. Following immediately from film, of course the colour palettes chosen for CCD camera's output were more saturated, warm and contrasty. Canon CMOS came along and blew everything out of the water with its natural, transparent look, and a bias towards lower contrast and softer, more appealing skin tones, and it has dominated the zeitgeist for the last 10 years or so? But since the VSCO-initiated film rennaissance, Fuji has been the first major manufacturer to bake that look into their camera JPEGs, and it's leading the 3rd wave of digital colour fashion.

>tl;dr: the difference is processing, you can create this look in any image processing software with a curves interface

>>2956919
Yeah if you just want to have fun you chose a good camera, I'm sure you'll have a blast. Post processing with it is pretty awesome

>>2956935
Makes sense as of to why ken memewell likes it, I was messing around with my g10 and noticed that (just like you pointed out) you can boost saturation without the photo looking like a Jackson pollock painting

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>>2956987

its weird because you have to push it to the extremes to make it look bad, but still will look better than lots of modern CMOS at that.

pushed this one a little bit more. still looking good (colors with shades and nuances), more but colorful.

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>>2956992

pushed it even more, reaching rockwell/cartoon color levels, but, still looking good. just saturation push, no luminance fuckery to limit channel clipping or hue changes to tame color weirdness. all of this from a SOOC jpeg.

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>>2956950
>>2956963

But I don't use the ooc jpegs, I only process from RAW. Processing is not the difference.

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>>2957077
here use some of this, you won't need to force the meme as much

>>2954736
What's that weird red thing on one of the leaves? Like it's too red to be registered as red.

Dropping by to share some truth since I had a genuine interest in the differences between CCD and CMOS a few years ago.

Back in "the day", CCD was the standard. It was developed more because of it and for a long time CCD simply had more advances and look better because of it.

But then the industry switched to CMOS for its speed (ISO capabilities, not development speed), and while it didn't look as good at first, it quickly caught up in technology.

In summation, there isn't much inherent to the technologies influencing the quality, it's almost entirely how much the technologies have been developed. Aside from the noise perhaps, but if you really want to add in noise to your 2016 CMOS sensors then Lightroom offers a generalized grain function and Photoshop offers even more noise options.

>>2957102
It's not just noise, newer CMOS have a larger dynamic ranges, giving you a bit less contrast. Again you can change this in post though.

There's also the colour processing trends, older cameras have more distinct colour separation baked in (even in raw files iirc) because it was more influenced by film, while newer cameras have more natural colour profiles. The colour has nothing to do with the actual sensor, all the light information is monochrome. There are filters in front of the sensor nodes that only allow certain wavelengths through, so the intensity of the light hitting that node is what tells the camera what colour to display.

>>2956994
<3

>>2955120
....so you can continue taking absurdly boring shots of nothing?

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CCD's are terrible at recording blue light, and are mostly sensitive to (infra-)red.
So they have to artificially boost the green and especially blue values to get correct images, but with boosting comes more noise.

CMOS is mostly sensitive to green, but does alright with green and blue.
Coupled with a better dynamic range you can get pretty much perfect colors out of a CMOS chips.

Blue skies will blow out sooner on CMOS though.

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Its pretty nice to go back to my old files and see my G10 was so good, but i was plebmaster and wanted muh bokeh so i "upgraded" to a rabal. Might get one again soon.

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>>2957236
Those colours are giving me an erection. I would absolutely have thought that was film.

>>2957236
Same exact thing happened to me but I had a g15 so no ccd

>>2956992
Yeah, working with g10 files are much better than working with my 7d files, I've never worked with a Fuji camera but I'd like to see how their sensors are

I'm still using my ricoh grd, I can't say that I like the color pictures a lot from it but the black and white ones are basically just as good or even better what you can archive from pushed kodak tri

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Mini Dump.
The M8 was crazier looking - in a good way.
Too bad those M9 sensors are all going to shit with age.

Mini dump...

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One thing I did with the M8 and M9 that I haven't done with any other camera was to take photos of things just to see what the files would look like.

It's visual crack.

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100% crop without any funny business.
It isn't quite Foveon, but you get more than expected in saturated subjects. Underexposed by a bit, but not nearly as much as I normally would need to for the reds.

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Love you, CCD.

Wish I could "Photoshop" you into my CMOS files like Tony Northrup says you can.

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>>2957536
what's your current cmos cam, i'll try something until i give up or get bored

>>2957216
Now I see why people were so up in arms about "x-ray" infrared night vision cameras 10 years ago. CCDs must work way better than CMOS for catching IR translucency.

>>2957536
If lightroom presets can recreate reasonable facsimiles of old film stock, surely it's possible to simulate a CCD effect by manipulating raw data files.

>>2957551
assuming you have a canon 5d mk2

Color Hue Saturation Luminance
Reds -7 +14 +26
Oranges +24 +10 +19
Yellows +18 +27 +22
Greens -5 +6 +21
Aquas 0 0 +6
Blues +9 +28 +21
Purples 0 +7 +8
Magentas -14 +10 +36

real rough stuff, just eyeballed

>>2957556
>If lightroom presets can recreate reasonable facsimiles of old film stock

So it's impossible then?

>>2957600
For fuck's sake.

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>>2957535
pretty sweet. reminds me of like hearts and shit

>>2957601

Yeah, I can't believe people still think you can recreate the film look digitally either.

>>2957603
This post is like going to work and Mike's there to tell you the same joke about the priest walking into the bar but the bartender says hey, no kids allowed. Sure it's funny the first time, but it's day 8 and it's just tiresome to have to listen to him.

>>2957608

How tired do you think I am of loudmouthed idiots who think you can accomplish the impossible, let alone with a dumbed-down underpowered program like lightroom? Probably just as tired? More so, actually, since I've been doing this longer than you and am not quite so clueless.

>>2957612
Alright Mike.

>>2957622

Sick burn! Fuck!

>>2957532
Doesn't Leica repair the sensors for free?

>>2957612
Lightroom's pretty great if you're not a shit photographer actually, especially since you're supposed to use it alongside photoshop

>>2957646

>one color mode
>no layers
>no channels
>very limited amount of adjustments with sliders only
>etc

Lightroom is garbage, ESPECIALLY if you already have photoshop. There's literally no reason to use it.

>>2957652
I love how you single out some of its strengths as weaknesses.

>>2957656

"Dumbed down" is not a strength, unless you happen to be a dummy.

>>2957657
Except it's not dumbed down. That's like thinking a flathead screwdriver is a dumbed down Phillips head.

>>2957659

More analogies! Yea!

>>2957600
>doesn't understand the difference between if and iff

>>2957652
Once again, if you're not a shit photographer

>>2957652
I don't exactly love processing 100+ images with photoshop.

>>2957930
>implying you've taken 100 pics worth editing in your life

>>2957972
Fair point.

Although I made a 36 image brenizer image today. If you can tell me how to sync the same settings across that many images in photoshop quickly, please share because although I use lightroom, I don't love it.

>>2957645
Not forever. At this point, it is a little scary having an M9. Newer models with the CCD look better, but you never know.

>>2957556
Sounds good in theory.

>>2957551
I have a Sony A7r and a Leica M240. They are both very likeable and very natural. Just not like the CCD

>>2957984
>I made a brenizer image today

so you got your camera last month. cool i guess. what new exciting photography meme are you going to rave on next week? star trails? heart shaped bokeh? flower macro? VSCO presets?

>>2958018
Yeah, I did get it last month. So what? Am I not supposed to experiment different techniques? That's how you learn, you play with different shit.

A bit fucking tragic that you, Mr Expert Photographer with your "over 100 pictures taken" badge, didn't realize that batch editing was a thing before you went on your little tirade.
By the way, if you didn't suck you wouldn't need to flout your "seniority" on 4chan as if it meant anything, grandad.

>>2958024
time to put down the keyboard, son

>>2958027
That's the best you could do?

>>2957984
>If you can tell me how to sync the same settings across that many images in photoshop quickly, please share because although I use lightroom, I don't love it.

http://photographyessentials.net/batch-apply-camera-raw-presets/

There's nothing lightroom can do that you can't do in Photoshop and Bridge. On the other hand, there are dozens, hundreds of things you can do in Photoshop that are impossible to do in Lightroom.

>>2958036
You have to use fucking bridge? Yuck. Mind you, I haven't used it in about ten years so perhaps it's improved.

There's probably thousands of things you can do in photoshop that you can't in lightroom. No one is saying lightroom is a photoshop alternative though.

CMOS fags = cucked
Lightroom plebs = cucked
CCD bros = lauded and praised
CCD photo superiority = proven and unmatched
God tier Canon G10 = unintentionally shilled with great success

Im very proud of this thread.

>>2958045

>No one is saying lightroom is a photoshop alternative though

Several people in this thread already have.

Bridge has significantly improved in the last ten years or so. Give it another try.

>>2958054
>Bridge has significantly improved in the last ten years or so. Give it another try.

Is it going to start indexing all my porn and memes as soon as I launch it?

>>2958056

Why haven't you indexed all that shit already?

I can start from flop to finish in 45 seconds flat with my carefully indexed and curated selection of every possible genre and fetish of pornography that appeals to me. It's a real timesaver for a man on the go like myself.

Also i can shitpost with like triple productivity.

>>2958059
I use a program called everything to find my shitpost and fap assets quickly. But if I see that stuff while I'm trying to work, I'll either end up jerking off and wasting time when I haven't saved up a big enough load, or I'll delete my collection in disgust.

>>2958054
>Several people in this thread already have.

Can you point them out?

>>2958018
>making fun of someone for being new to photography as if you were never new to photography at some poiny

>>2957987
>likeable
>not leicable

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Posting a few snapshits I took with the g10 that came in the post this morning.
None of these are any good, I was just dicking around and getting used to the camera.
I didn't figure out how to shoot raw till I came home. I ran these through lightroom, but just minor shit like WB. exposure, cropping etc. Didn't fuck with the colours or saturation.

Thanks G10 shills ITT, love this little thing.

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>>2958515

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>>2958517

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>>2958518
So wish I had this one in focus.

That'll do, don't wanna take over the thread

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I had an d80 for a while, before I it replaced with d7200.

I did not really miss anything about the d80 and didn't think about it until this thread. I mainly remember it being as noisy at 1600 as the d7200 at 12500.

But really though, is it something about CCD vs CMOS noise that appeals to people? Like, at equal levels of noise is one different in quality from the other, like different lens' bokeh? Or something?

>>2958767
Well ccd sensors had better sharpness, color, and ISO than the cmos sensors at its time

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Guy from >>2954237 here. I did some tests again.

I compared Nikon D80 to Canon EOS M again. Sensor inside the M is the oldest CMOS you can find in new cameras (EOS M10 and 1200D/T5 have the same one). Any other modern CMOS DSLR and Mirrorless can only be better than EOS M results i will present.

On EOS M i used Helios 44-2 58mm f/2.
On D80 i used Helios 44M-4 58mm f/2.
Exposure, white balance and aperture are the same. I converted the RAWs in IrfanView because surprisingly it gave better results for CCD then Lightroom.

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>>2960747

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>>2960749

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>>2960761

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>>2960763
That's all.

I used a "normal" picture profile on Nikon and "auto" on Canon.

I made a mistake with these:
>>2960758
>>2960759
Aperture and exposure are different, but colors are the purpose of this test so its still a useful comparison.

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>>2960747
So basically they're similar enough that it doesn't matter (at least for newer cmos), is it mandatory to buy a cmos with global shutter? (Assuming you want to be able to shoot video.)

>>2960858
Rotating shutter wobble varies from camera to camera. It's not mandatory to get a global shutter. If you have to ask that, i doubt it would make much difference for your work, unless you are going to shoot fast action or pan fast, like skateboarding or racing...

Photos are very similar, but when you pixel peep its obvious that CCD noise is more pleasing then CMOS (at least on low ISO). Playing with raw files, brightening the shadows and dimming the highlights shows it even more, but i think that would be different on newer Nikon/Sony/Pentax/Fuji, or even Canon 80D.

Anyway its clearly not a big difference, but it makes me think. D80 sensor is 11 years old. I wonder how a modern full frame or aps-c CCD would look if they continued the development of this technology. I know CCD still lives in compacts, but those sensors are tiny.

>>2960915
>I wonder how a modern full frame or aps-c CCD

they would literally look like film.

>>2960932
>>2960915
the answer is leica M9. check out the shots and compare for yourselves.

>>2960957

or pretty much any digital medium format except for the newest generation, which coincidentally look nothing like film.

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This.
Fucking.
Thread.

Just look at what you have done!
This arrived today.
I hate all of you ;_;

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