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>Mirrorless Format >Sony >Fujifilm >Olympus >Anything

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>Mirrorless Format
>Sony
>Fujifilm
>Olympus
>Anything other than canon
Pic related

Why cant other companies make cameras that werk just as well as canon cameras?
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Agreed.

I attempted to make the switch from Canon to Sony when the new A series were released last year, but they are functionally awful cameras.

Canons are comfy as fuck. I do want to try an X Pro II, although only as a small carry camera, I could never switch over my main gear to it.
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>>2941313
>Not using superior Olympus
>Shooting digital at all

KYS
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>>2941313
Proof that Canon has mastered the art of advertising to children.
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>canon
Jpeg Summerfag go back to school
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How can any other brand even compete?

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>>2941330
>canon
>jpeg
>summerfag
Spotted the insecure samefag trying to fit in, his logical leaps aren't even fitting with memetic tradition.

Fuji and Ricoh shooters are the jpegfags and they're the opposite of summer. Poorly edited Canon raw files like your pic related are summerfag.
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Poorfags can't even handle it.

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>>2941348
Wow, every camera looks the fucking same: Black and boring.
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>>2941313
A6500 baby!

APS-C with image stabilization on all unstabilised primes
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>>2941352

how long you gonna keep trotting that pic around? You know that a big chunk of the board has owned or owns a current full frame camera, right?

We're glad that you moved up from a rabble, but you aren't special, buddy. You're just another camera owner.
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>Still using a mirror
>still have it flap about to take a picture
>still get strain injuries to carry an object the size of a medium sized firearm
>still think FF is relevant
>still salty about APC and Medium Format

Face it Canikoniggers - your format at tech will be shovelware in 10 years time.
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>>2941359
>implying I've ever owned a shit tier crop camera
>implying that picture has been posted other than one other time

You mad bro?
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>>2941357
You reaction is just dump. It's as if you say "Wow every cars looks the fucking same : 4 wheels and boring."
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>>2941367

Why would I be mad? I own a current full frame camera that still performs better than yours.

I rarely use it, though, since I prefer my x100s. ;)

also, once was too many times to post it. twice is just.. embarrassing.
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>>2941369
>X100S
>doesn't even own an X Pro II

Confirmed for asshurt.
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>>2941371

I'm waiting for the X100U or whatever it'll be. The interchangeable lens fuji's are for weiners. I keep things simple.
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>>2941313
Worst bait in ages, are you even trying?
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>>2941376
>I can't justify buying lenses for my cameras because my McWage won't cover or surpass the barrier to entry

Fixed that for you.
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>>2941390

Says the guy who keeps parading around his too-expensive-for-him new camera like a Romanian peasant walking through the town square with his new goat?

top kek, kiddo. 1/10, try again.
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>>2941392
>posted two pictures of new camera
>parading around

I didn't even make a thread like 90% of people on this board every time they get a new $300 lens. This is you right now.
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>>2941352
Now post your camera face, or we know what your insecurities are.
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>>2941352
>Company is going down the tube fastest in the Industry, held afloat only by their history, less than 20 years remain
>it's a non-upgrade from the last model
>outdated mechanical reliances

I'd rather have an xpro2, a 16-55, a pancake, and a 56mm. Better high iso performance, better file latitude, better lenses.

Your decisions are your own though, I'm sure you have a good reason for needing a DSLR, like taking photos at anime conventions.
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>>2941399
>well... uh... you must be insecure!

Not an argument.

>>2941401
>I'd rather have an xpro2
Then why don't you? I'm considering picking one up for more compact photography.

>anime conventions

Fuck anime and fuck weaboos.
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>>2941403
>fuck weaboos
>buys weeb cameras
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>>2941403
>compact photography.
What does that even mean?
You mean you often leave the house already without a camera because your DSLR is too big for you?
No wonder you made this thread. Insecurity!

>Then why don't you?
I do, anon. I replaced my 5DIII with an Xpro2 two months ago.
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Leica m rangefinder master race checking in.

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Pentax DSLR master race
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>>2941407
>getting rid of bodies

Why not just get both?

And I didn't make this thread. DSLR form factor obviously has certain size limitations. A 5D with 70-200 is going to. E a lot more obtrusive than a small mirror less.
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>>2941351
Anyone who believes in Canon must be a jpeg fag because Canon cameras fucking suck.

The fact that you thought that image was a raw is only a testimate to this. Amazing.
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>>2941469
>Why not just get both?
Because I don't need two different systems. I'll buy an X100(next letter) to go with it as a backup.

Same reason I sold my Nissan when I bought my Corvette. Why do you need two?
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>>2941494
Anyone that thinks jpegs have to look bad must be a Canon fag because Fuji and Ricoh jpegs are better than most Canon raw shooters processing.
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>>2941313
> 2016
> not shooting pinholes

fucking savage
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>>2941498
>Hate on Canon hardcore
>Look it's a Canon fag!
I will never understand you mentally ill individuals
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>>2941313
Show me a sexier mirrorless camera.
Protip: you can't.
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>>2941508
>glossy plastic chrome
I want to vomit.
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>>2941523
It's actually steel.
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>>2941496
Well, if you own a sports car it's generally smart to have a practical secondary vehicle for Daily Driving. Although, as a corvette owner I don't expect you to understand that, because you probably over extended your financial ability to buy a shitty Corvette on a 72 month loan, instead of thinking practically.
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>>2941523
That's so beautiful.
I have a leica M2. I love it so much.
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>>2941527
>Corvette
>Sports Vehicle
Okay, Hondaboy. Do you even have a license?
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>>2941352
>canon 13x19"
You get that printer deal too?
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what about pentax? if I ever changed from canon, pentax is my next option

K-70 is cheap and weather sealed, seen good photos from it
any reason not to go pentax?
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>>2941508
There are some sexy pens, thats not one of them
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>>2941540
>implying I'm a corvette hater
>implying I didn't own a C6 Z06 in Le Mans blue that wasn't a project car, which I had to replace the valve guides in myself

Fuck off queer.
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>>2941542
Yeah, got the Pro-100 with paper for literally $1
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http://petapixel.com/2016/10/04/sold-nikon-d5-fujifilm-x-t2/
http://petapixel.com/2016/09/14/fuji-x-t2-sharper-canon-5ds-r-preliminary-side-side-comparison/
FF CANIKON DSLR BABBIES BTFO
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>>2941429
>shooting ff film rangefinder instead of shooting superior half frame slr
enjoy half the frames per roll, 1/50 flash sync instead of 1/500, shittier aspect ratio, parallax, framelines for only a select few lenses, less depth of field and half the grain, PLEB
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>>2941540
>Do you even have a license

It's times like these I cringe in agony as I realize how young the userbase on /p/ with the coming of the new highschool year.

Please fucking stop posting, all of you.
Cheers, /p/.
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Canon users are the epitome of brotographers. Have fun with your shit sensors
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>>2941579
t. millenial 2012 newfag
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>>2941579
>bruh do you even have off campus lunch and off periods
>it's like you don't even have a top locker
>what a nerd, his parents don't even give him a gas card
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>>2941622
>>2941589
Holy shit
I found the easiest way to out underage B&
Grow some brains guys, Jesus Christ
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>>2941588
>stop linking things I don't like
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Loving all the amazing pictures you guys take with your beloved gear posted in here :^)
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>>2941348
what's the point of having a billion lenses when you only need 4 or 5?

what's the point of having a billion lenses when you can't afford 75% of them?

what's the point of having a billion lenses when your glass is sub par?

what's the point of having a billion lenses when buying more only makes it harder to switch?

what's the point of having a billion lenses when you don't even leave your house?

...

the point of having a billion lenses is marketing.

memes attached:
>canon does what nikon dont
>canon does what sony dont
>canon does what fuji dont
>canon does what pentax dont
>canon does what olympus dont
>canon does what panasonic dont
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>>2942280
The point of having a billion lenses is tons of options for many different types of photographers. Not everyone shoots the same, likes the same stuff, or even needs the same things. But having the capability is extremely nice.

>when you can't afford 75% of them

Speak for yourself, poorfag.
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>>2942332
>The point of having a billion lenses is tons of options for many different types of photographers. Not everyone shoots the same, likes the same stuff, or even needs the same things. But having the capability is extremely nice.
Hahahahaha

Yeah, no. This only really applies to the existence of tilt/shift lenses and other specialty optics, on which adapting them to another system is rarely a big deal; many of them don't have autofocus in the first place.

The majority of Canon's lenses are updates for updates sake (if not a completely lateral upgrade in the first place as is often the case), or different speeds for $$$'s sake.

One cannot entirely fault Canon for this behavior. Photography is a large portion of Canon's corporate existence, and as such their continued existence relies on them continuing to try to make as much money from equipment as possible, including selling a lens with a $20 production cost for $300.
The companies you traditionally think of as only having 1 or 2 lenses per focal length tend to be the companies to whom photography equipment is a passion market more than bread and butter. Fuji and Pentax are not depending on their income from your consumer photo gear to float them. They have no reason to optimize their marketshare to exploit daft consumerism and update-chasing.

Unfortunately most Canon users are too deeply stuck in consumerist habits to fully understand their role in this and will instinctively interpret any conversation about different corporate goals like this as shitting on their babe. For these, you simply nod and say their 50mm 1.2 is quite impressive.
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>>2941348
What lens is that in the back far right the really big one
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>>2942347
That's just a traffic cone somebody painted white as a joke.
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>>2942350
I'm going to buy it and put it on my rebel just for kicks
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>>2941348
So much cancer
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>>2942342
>selling a lens with a $20 production cost for $300

Nice to see you've never ran a business before, or don't know how businesses work. If each lens didn't serve a purpose, they wouldn't make them. It is more optimal from a business standpoint to streamline as that will help alleviate huge R&D costs. Canon produces what the market will bear particularly with their professionals gear. Deal with it.
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>>2942370
>If each lens didn't serve a purpose, they wouldn't make them.
They do serve a purpose. They target different consumer demographics.

They just don't serve photographically seperate purposes. They're mostly treated as tiers of status/value. 50mm 1.8 is for plebs and rebel owners, 50mm 1.4 is for budget-concious prosumers, 50mm 1.2 is for "Certified Portrait Society Of America Badge" "professionals" and anyone else that can pay the price for it, typically the less budget-concious prosumers.

Different purposes? Yeah dude, I bet you use that 1.2 so much differently. :^)

>R&D costs
This is such an incredible non-point towards the specific example of 50mms. Not a whole lot of new research and development going on for our swamp-standard fiddies.
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>>2942381
You're right, all three lenses are the exact same, the only thing that differentiates them is the outside housing and the ring on the front. I'm sure they didn't even do any research on the three.
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>>2942386
Oh wow, this anon must know what f/stops are!
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>>2942387
I'm glad to know that we have someone so familiar with business operating procedures in our midst. Truly, we are blessed.
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>>2942389
I'm glad to see non-CPS Canon owners still defend their brand with the voracity of proponents of the Sonic the Hedgehog video games.
Don't ask me to explain 4D "business operationg procedures" to you then get upset at the explanation because you can only see in two dimensions.
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Canon lags way behind all the other brands
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Is there truly that much difference between the f 1.2 / 1.4 /1.8 50mm lens ? I've always wondered. I would have to make some serious dosh with my camera to make me want to spend a couple grand on one
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>>2942352
probably better AF using a traffic cone than mirrorless memes with a real lens
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>>2942399
What they have in common is that none of them are sharp at their wide, advertised aperture. 1.8 gets sharp at 4, 1.4 gets sharp at f/2.8, 1.2 gets sharp at 1.8.

It's the greatest con game in the history of 50mm lenses.
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>>2942342
>They have no reason to optimize their marketshare to exploit daft consumerism and update-chasing.

Works for me; it means cheaper gear.

and
>50mm 1.4 is for budget-concious prosumers

Maybe I want fast AF on my 50mm and I don't the extra 1/2 stop of light.

Go suck Fuji cock if that's your thing.
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>>2942413
>Maybe I want fast AF on my 50mm and I don't the extra 1/2 stop of light.
t. budget concious consumer offended at being called a budget concious consumer
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>>2942421
I don't want to pay the price of the 1.2, I didn't even want to pay the price of the 1.4; that's why I bought it used when I saw it for $100.

I also don't need the 1.2 or want the weight of it.

Why would I use a semi-truck when I can do the same work with a pickup?
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>>2942425
Definition of budget conscious, why are you so upset about that term? You're gonna die of a heart attack before you're 40!
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>>2942426
I'm not upset with anything especially not being called "budget conscious," which I am.

I just found it stupid to imply that either of the lower Canon 50mm weren't sufficient or that the 1.2 is necessary for great portraits.
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Tagging this one as yet another >>>/dpreview/ shitposting fest.

Good job lads. Keep those non-pictures coming.
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>>2942427
>I just found it stupid to imply that either of the lower Canon 50mm weren't sufficient or that the 1.2 is necessary for great portraits.
I don't know how you could have possibly read that implication in what I said at all.
I'm a step beyond that. I'm saying that's what CANON is gaming on most consumers viewing the difference as.

>>2942430
here's your (((Boo))).

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>>2941357
>le edgy retro camera look meme

This may be hard for you to fathom, but some of us buy cameras to use them.
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>>2942438
This is humorous because it's a noted truity that mirrorless makes most people shoot more often. DSLR owners predominantly fall into the "I only take my camera with me when I'm planning to take photos" category on /p/.

Your sentence seems like a great put-down when your personal context and history has yet to surpass the "new DSLR owner" phase, but it just seems incredibly cringey to anyone that knows that...yeah, mirrorless usually makes people shoot more because "this is neat!"

In my experience, the only people that can't wrap their heads around it are people that've only ever used a DSLR. It's not much of a leap of logic to assume insecurity and buyer's remorse might play a role. :^)
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>>2942435
>I'm saying that's what CANON is gaming on most consumers viewing the difference

Gearfags are naturally attracted to the manufacturer with the widest selection, that being Canon.

Consumers are what made Canon into what it is, they should appeal to them.

There's also a lot of things appealing to people that actually take pictures, though.

It seems that you're denouncing them because of the thought process of others that happen to use the same brand.
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>>2941358

What is Sony up to now? 2 primes? 3? Do they finally have 3???

>>2941362
>muh mirrorless meme
>try to photograph but subject is moving
>can't AF lock
>can't track in EVF
>cause EVF looks like a flip book
>battery goes dead
>next time i'll get a shot of that snail, i swear it!

>>2942342
>trying this hard to diss Canon glass

Canon's lens catalog is THE reason to shoot Canon. They've been updating so frequently in order to support 50mp and higher sensors. They've always been good, but their latest glass = best glass.
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>>2942445
>It seems that you're denouncing them because of the thought process of others that happen to use the same brand.
Did you miss this?
>"One cannot entirely fault Canon for this behavior. Photography is a large portion of Canon's corporate existence, and as such their continued existence relies on them continuing to try to make as much money from equipment as possible, including selling a lens with a $20 production cost for $300.
The companies you traditionally think of as only having 1 or 2 lenses per focal length tend to be the companies to whom photography equipment is a passion market more than bread and butter. Fuji and Pentax are not depending on their income from your consumer photo gear to float them. They have no reason to optimize their marketshare to exploit daft consumerism and update-chasing."
Or did you just not have the attention span to understand it?

>There's also a lot of things appealing to people that actually take pictures, though.
Name them, and let's post our websites as people that actually take pictures (, though.)

jamiewilliams.22slides.com
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>>2942447
>Canon's lens catalog is THE reason to shoot Canon
>DSLR lenses
>wider than 50mm
Yeah man, you have fun with those partisan politics :^)
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>>2942444
>This is humorous because it's a noted truity that mirrorless makes most people shoot more often.

[CITATION NEEDED]

>Your sentence seems like a great put-down when your personal context and history
>personal context and history
>on /p/

Your put down seems like ignorant shit in the context of an anonymous board.

>It's not much of a leap of logic to assume insecurity and buyer's remorse might play a role. :^)

What is: projection?
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>>2942451

I'm sorry your McWage doesn't allow you to try the 16-35 f/4L IS or 11-24 f/4L.
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>>2942444
mirrorless are more compact, fits in a pocket if you take the lens off
people also shoot more with phone cameras out of convenience
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>>2942452
>[CITATION NEEDED]
Hang around /p/ longer, champ. You'll notice that people start taking more photos when they swap mirrorless. It's because ((((they're not as heavy))))

>Your put down seems like ignorant shit in the context of an anonymous board.
>anonymooooooose xDD
Nah. Only DSLR users that have never actually used other systems have your attitude, that's all. It's really easily spotted when you've been around a while.
Not all DSLR users are baby-backed bitches, plenty of people swap back to them for sports or long-term battery needs. All DSLR users that find Mirrorless threatening enough to swat in the air at are, without fail, entry-level DSLR users (or former ones, there's always the Rebel-to-1D guy)

>What is: projection?
I'm not the one that's not taking photos because my camera is too heavy. No sir. That's you.
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>>2942455
We've got a thinker in the seats! A profound one, too.

>>2942454
If I were going after a fixed aperture zoom it'd be a 16-55 2.8, buddyboi.
The Dunning-Kruger effect, meme that it is, plays out no more clearly than in DSLR tropes played out via newfag-speak on /p/.
>Muh-El, alien Superlense
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>>2942457
>too heavy

Are you an ant?
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>>2942457
>using /p/ as evidence of anything

laughingsluts.jpg

>comments on the "look" of a camera line
>has the audacity to claim others aren't serious about photography

Mirrorless has pros. But people like you are the #1 con. I responded to ONE POSTER'S stupid comment, and you sperg'd out and made it a DSLR vs. mirrorless flame war.

God damn, it's like I wandered into an Olympus forum.

>DSLR is too heavy

I bet you're one of those guys who use the women's restroom at Target, aren't you?
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>>2942461
>mention FF landscape lenses
>he thinks i was talking about crop lenses

You enjoy that 28mm f/4.5 equivalent "wide angle" there buddy.
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>>2942468
Check it out, I hurt his feelings for assuming he doesn't use his camera much in response to his assuming someone else doesn't use their camera because it's retro looking

There's no illogical asshurt in this sector at all, this lad ain't livid.
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>>2942470
>landscape lenses
>landscape lens
lol

>"wide angle"
>only 122 degrees
Haha, whatever helps you sleep at night, slimbro. I prefer 280 degrees, just takes a little know-how.

We've all been there before, a new or "seasoned" (2 years) DSLR user, confident of our own ignorance. :^)
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>>2942468
>I bet you're one of those guys who use the women's restroom at Target, aren't you?
And yeah, I am :^)
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>>2942457
>Only DSLR users that have never actually used other systems have your attitude, that's all. It's really easily spotted when you've been around a while.
>Not all DSLR users are baby-backed bitches, plenty of people swap back to them for sports or long-term battery needs. All DSLR users that find Mirrorless threatening enough to swat in the air at are, without fail, entry-level DSLR users (or former ones, there's always the Rebel-to-1D guy)

>implying I didn't buy a Sony and then switch back to canon afterwards

So much cognitive dissonance to justify his mirrorless purchase.

>he still thinks that photography is a one size fits all

Top kek.
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>>2942600
>A Sony
Not proving her wrong, there.
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>2016
>shooting a DSLR
>shooting mirrorless
>shooting film

Top kek.
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>>2942468
>people who don't like heavy cameras are pussies
I carried a pro SLR and lenses (D1x then D2x) for ten years. Now I have an OMD, and the whole kit with body, lenses and a carbon fiber tripod weigh less than my old 80-200 f/2.8. It was so much more convenient that after a week with the Olympus, I sold my Nikon gear and have never looked back.
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>>2941330
joeyl shoots 5dm3
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>>2942639
Joyel shoots an sks
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>>2941313
>Anything other than canon
NIGGA U STUPID
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>tfw been only using canon since I started doing photography 9 years ago
>tfw really want to switch to some newer sony or fuji mirorrless camera those are much more suitable for my line off work and overall better technically
>tfw so used to canon ergonomics I literally can't do shit with any other system
I feel like a heroin addict trying to get off, and accumulated gear doesn't help either.
Sometimes I go out with a borrowed sony a7r and feel like I'm both blind an dumb
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>>2941319
>>2941313
just get eos m5.
dual pixel magic now.
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>>2942631
>Ex-kodak
didn't they bankrupt?
so opinion discarded.
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>>2941550
slow autofocus-tracking
less af-points
horrible video stabilization

otherwise they'll offer you much more for your money
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>>2944301
Use a canon AE1 bro, If you can't then you really are dumb and blind.
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>>2944301
You can switch. Sell off your nonessential gear, use the funds to buy a body with a lens (doesn't even have to be a modern AF lens) and just practice using it while you aren't doing serious photos. Once you're comfortable, pawn off the rest of your shit and go in balls deep.
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>>2941352

Shaurya is that you
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>>2941313
>get into photog and videography
>bought t2i way back then
>put it through hell, still going strong
>need something newer
>either get 5D and go full frame, or a6000-6500 and try to keep the camera on me more as I can put in a prime and throw it in my bag.

It's quality vs comfiness.

THat said, I guess I could invest in my own glass instead of renting out lenses and keep the t2i.
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>>2942447
They have all of your primes. Stabilised.
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>>2942483
>i prefer 280 degrees

You have a lens that shoots behind the camera?

>>2942486
Your processing is really ugly

>>2942447
Go check dxo, canon lenses have fallen wayyyy behind, sony are the only oem to really dominate there. As for sony primes; 28,35,35,50,50,55,90 already covered directly by sony, 20 & 135 have been announced, 10,12,15,40,65 by voigtlander, 18,25,85 zeiss batis, 21,35,50,85 zeiss loxia, 14,50 samyang.

They're just the full frame primes that have been designed around the fe mount (hence no long list of other samyang stuff). Not to mention how the new gm zooms shit all over their canon counterparts.

Oh, and we have ibis.
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>mirrorless
>digital

0/10
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>>2941320
>m43
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>>2944799
>Sell off your nonessential gear, use the funds to buy a body with a lens (doesn't even have to be a modern AF lens) and just practice using it while you aren't doing serious photos.
Well, the problem here is that photography is not a hobby for me, but my dayjob and only source of income. so there's no 'nonessential' gear that I don't use daily and 'not doing serious photos' is not an option since if I don't maintain a certain level of quality, then I don't have a job.
But I do have an access to Sony a7r with SEL2470Z and SEL55F18Z and I take it to less important shoots. Thing is, I'm doing it for months and the results are still far worse than what I have with my old 5dm2, even when the technical quality is far better.
I tend to think that digital viewfinder is the main reason for that, but I haven't got my hands on any mirrorless camera with optical viewfinder yet to prove that.
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>Canon Mirrorless Format
>99% of Users Just Go straight for EF-adapters anyway
You done fucked up
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>sony spilllover shills flooding into /p/ due to the added activity on /v/

>he _still_ cannot into useful AF
>cucked forever out of sports, birding, autoracing, etc
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