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Hey guys, I'm a relatively new photographer looking for honest feedback/criticism/savage insults :) this is the shoot I'm most proud of, only 7 pics here. They're of a street artist in Edinburgh that caught my eye. I'd love to get into street photography and I'm looking for help and advice. Just wanna know if it's something I have potential to do. Have a great day!

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This is a general comment which applies almost universally to the entire set:

Successful pictures of a street artist require two things: (1) The artist, and (2) the thing they are doing. This entire series has neither. This is literally a series of gloved hands.

A single one of these shots may have worked in the context of a better series, but as it is it's just the same fucking shot over and over and over again from different angles.

We don't know who this person is, where this person is, or what, really they're doing (besides painting). I know it's a street artist because you told me, but that's the only reason. For fuck's sake, we don't even see any real finished product. All we get are sharply angled snippets of the paintings. If I can't see this person or what they're doing or where they're doing it, why should I can?

Close-ups aren't bad. Showing the detail of the technique isn't bad. But when that's all it is, there's nothing really there.

>>2941281
>close up of anonymous gloved hands mostly covering painting

>>2941282
>close up of anonymous gloved hands wiping newspaper on canvas

>>2941283
>close up of anonymous gloved hands with spray paint

>>2941284
>literally the same shot as >>2941282

>>2941285
>close up of anonymous gloved hands with spray paint

>>2941287
>literally the same shot as >>2941287

>>2941289
>close up shot of gloved hands painting
OH! We're looking at a landscape painting!

Also, your processing is flat and dull. It doesn't look dark and artsy. It doesn't look like it was a cloudy or dreary day. It doesn't look moody or faded or retro. It just looks flat and boring.
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>>2941297
Hi! Bear in mind this isn't the full set. I do show the artist in some pictures but I didn't think they were technically as good as the rest. For example I show his face several times in profile shots where he is working. The photos I've shown here aren't the complete series as I did mention in the original post. I just showed the ones I was most happy with personally. Thanks for your feedback :)
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>>2941297
also a question - what is processing? As I mentioned I'm very much a newbie :P
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>>2941338
Processing is what you do to the photo after you take it. Are you shooting in raw? Or still just shooting jpg?

>>2941335
>I just showed the ones I was most happy with personally.
Why? What do you think anybody would see in these? I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm honestly asking. When you take pictures, it's really fucking hard to step back and view your work objectively. It's easy to get emotionally attached to the experience or to all the bullshit information you know beyond what's in the photos. So, for these 7 shots, what do you expect us to see, other than the same damn thing over and over again?
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>>2941346
>Are you shooting in raw? Or still just shooting jpg?
In my experience only newbies "still" say this.
Most noobs know to start with raw now and have a reflexive distrust in jpeg.
Shooting jpeg is truly the arena of professionals as a matter of file size necessity and confidence in ones abilities to get it right in camera.

Just my opinion though.
t. AP Photographer
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>>2941346
I'm shooting jpeg, I haven't edited the photos at all cos I didn't want to make them even worse. Its cool I dont think youre a dick! Im grateful for honest feedback, I feel like my friends cant be real with me in case they hurt my feelings. I don't know desu, I think I mostly liked them because I enjoyed watching him and shooting his work cos I found him inspiring. It doesn't really matter to me if nobody sees anything in them, I mostly wanted technical feedback so I can improve my skills, but I do see now that it's hard to evaluate photos that are largely similar.
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>>2941350
>I think I mostly liked them because I enjoyed watching him
This is the key to your whole problem.

There's nothing wrong with that. It's cool that you enjoyed him. But make that translates into what you shoot and how you shoot it. You said that you found him inspiring, but why? Chances are, it had something to do with what he was doing and what he was making, but we really don't see much of that at all. All we see here is that you're inspired by white gloves.

>I mostly wanted technical feedback so I can improve my skills
Technical skills are easy to work on. Anybody can be taught how to expose a photo and snap the shutter. Hell, you're shooting aperture priority mode, which makes it easier. Learning to take interesting pictures is much harder than learning how to take a technically proficient picture. You want the technical aspects to work for the photo, but technical aspects aren't a photo in and of themselves.

The first shot in this set is probably the best composed. If you have a larger set with the actual guy and his work in it, it's worth including. Ditch the rest.
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>>2941349
What the fuck are you on about? OP didn't even know the word processing. It's a fair question to ask what format he's shooting in.
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Here's one with his face/work in, so he's less anonymous and you get to see what he was working on. Obviously it's mostly a snapshit so I could just get his work in.

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In case you're interested here's some more work of his. Just posting so you can see what awesome stuff he creates :)

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>>2941454
Honestly, just having a shot like this helps.

Some thoughts on composition: There's a lot of weird dead space in the photo. His head is really close to the top of the frame, but there's a big gap at the bottom of the frame. Also, a lot of space behind his back. Finally, the whole left side of the frame is empty and useless. I'm not saying that 100% of a frame has to be filled with interesting shit. Rather, here, there shapes and the position of the guy in the frame just leave it feeling off balance.
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>>2941281
>>2941282
>>2941283
>>2941284
>>2941285
>>2941287
>>2941289

These are all basically the same picture. Pick the strongest and only use that one.
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>>2941454
>>2941455
Yeah, the addition of these shots definitely gives it much needed context. The first set is just the same thing. These two show both the guy AND the finished product. Altogether, you've got
>artist
>technique
>art
It tells a story. It has a flow to it. See pic related.

I'm not saying that either of these shots are great. They're not. But something like them is needed to make this series even remotely interesting.
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>>2941477
Would it make it better composition wise if I cropped it? I haven't edited the pics at all
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>>2941499
I see what you mean, that actually makes them flow a lot better. Really good advice thank you!

>>2941413
>what format he's shooting in
I'm a grill :P
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>>2941506
Honestly, don't even worry about it for this shot. It's not a killer shot anyway, and cropping it will probably produce some weird, unintended results. I cropped it a bit in that quick little triptych, but any more than that and you really start screwing up the shot without any real gain. I'd just use it as a learning experience. When you're shooting, pay attention to whatever else is going on in the frame, not just with the subject. Think about the subject's position. Think about all the background shit. Just start learning to be aware.
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>>2941519
Thanks man actually wasnt expecting such good advice on 4chan hahah
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>>2941520
Well, your thread seems to have a nice mix of all the stuff that makes a response worthwhile: You're new, but you didn't ignore the sticky. You started your own thread with a specific series, rather than just slowing dumping things down the RPT drain. You actually provided some explanation/context of what you were doing. You actually asked for critique in an intelligent manner (as opposed to fucking retarded "rate pls" bullshit). And, most importantly, you didn't lose your shit when you got critique. Also, your photos aren't complete garbage, but they're not great either. You've got something to work with.
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>>2941281
>I'd love to get into street photography and I'm looking for help and advice.

If there is anything the world doesn't need is another street photographer. You have an entry level SLR and have figured out how to take a picture with it, great! We all start somewhere. I am not telling you to stop by any means, you have an eye for composition. So keep shooting but focus (no pun intended) on something bigger than "street", it is so very overplayed and poorly executed in the digital age that even if a great street shooter came along they would be tainted by the horde of mediocrity that makes up the genre.

Street is at best an exercise to keep one shooting, and at worst a title, ie "street photographer".
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>>2941289
This is awesome
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