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>>2883890

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>>2883890

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>>2883890
1, 3, 2. Don't know why. But I don't like the 2nd one.

>>2883892
this one because the colors pop.
it's still boring to look at, especially something that could have been taken from a million different angles.

>>2883890
>>2883892
>>2883900
These are all crooked. Your perspective is fucked up. You were centered between those two columns. There's no amount of Ps perspective trickery that will fix it.

Go shoot it again.

>>2883904
it's also not perfectly straight and my ocd is kicking in.

>>2883905
>were
Fuck! Were *NOT*

op here.

so, should I burn this picture?

>>2883916
It's crooked. It's not that good. It's not a bad idea. Lots of people do this when starting out. But it is boring. Even at the end of the day, if it was straight it would still be boring.

Just consider it a learning lesson.

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>>2883919
I know the picture is not that good and that it's very boring, but I don't get why you all say that it is crooked. Even using the grid I cannot find it crooked.

>>2883924
Shit. You're right. Dismiss my last post. Maybe crooked is not the word. I would say, not well centered.

>>2883924
Alright. Give me a second to pull up Photoshop and I'll show you what's wrong.

>>2883927
Thank you, mate.

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>>2883929
Alright. Here's the easiest one to see.

Your lines themselves are straight. That's not the issue, but the entire picture is slightly rotate. The left side of the frame is a bit higher than the right side of the frame.

Look at that hot pink line. On the left of frame, it's right at the corner of the roof. That line is perfectly straight across the image. Now look at the right of frame. See how much higher it is? That shows you how crooked the whole thing is.

The issue isn't a straight vs. crooked issue; rather, it's a perspective striaghtness.

Looking at this, you were standing slightly closer to the column on the left of center than to the column on the right of center. For you, you may not have noticed it. It may have been an inch or two off center. But if your center point is an inch or two off center, then by the time you get to the edges of your frame the perspective is going to be completely fucked up.

Now, look at that green line. That represents dead center. At first, it looks pretty good, but look closely at the coffers in the ceiling, especially at the bottom of the frame. See how there is more of the coffers to the left of the line than to the right? That's the perspective issue again.

Generally, perspective issues will show themselves most prominently at the edges of the frame.

The key to a shot like this is being absolutely fucking perfect in your position as a photographer. Being pretty close to center won't cut it. If all your shot is is lines, then those lines have to be perfect.

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>>2883938
[cont.]

Also, just so you know exactly what you did:

You weren't standing perfectly centered between those two columns. HOWEVER, you did aim the camera pretty much dead center towards the top of the columns. That's why, in this fame, the middle looks more centered than the edges. When your'e off-center, but you aim perfectly centered, then the center of the frame will look decent (not perfect, but decent). But, as you get to the edges of the frame, those lines get more and more distorted.

Think of it as shooting a gun. If I'm shooting at a target right in front of me, it doesn't matter as much if I'm a few millimeters off center. I'll still probably hit exactly what I'm shooting at. But if my target is 100 meters away, a few millimeters off center at the start will translate into several centimeters by the time the bullet gets to its destination.

This architectural minimalist stuff can be fun, but you've got to make sure that your technical aspects are perfect.

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>>2883940
Finally, here's a quick little gif. If you take one side of the frame and copy it to the other side, then you know you'll have an image where the shapes are perfectly square and centered. When you compare that to the original (via a gif), you can see the huge difference.

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>>2883890
I like the b&w the most, but it needs more black depth. Can't decide if the sky needs to be darker or lighter

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>>2883951
Too dark.

OP's B&W edit needed more contrast, not just more shadows.

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>>2883951
I would've added contrast to the shadows only with a luminosity mask and then just went ahead and blown out the sky.

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>>2883938
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>>2883948
Thank you very much, anon. That was an excelent explanation.

I will try to follow your advice and try again with the same picture. I didn't use a tripod because I don't have one, but I think that It is necessary for this kind of pictures.

>>2883900
this one

>>2883953
I noticed after I posted the edit
>>2883958
this is looking better as what I wanted to see in my head

OP, it was a good photo..the type people can mess around with, very flexible

>>2883985
Yeah, it's tricky. A tripod would help, but it's not 100% necessary.

I would bet that the ground where you were standing was probably some steps or something like that. Usually, stuff like that is built with very clean lines. Don't just look up. Look at your feet. Look at the stonework all around you. I bet you'll find lines to help you position yourself.

If I'm in some massive structure like a cathedral or concert hall or academic building, I'll look at the tiles on the ground. Most of the time, that's more helpful that looking at the stuff I'm shooting. If the ground has a centered grid, that's all you need. Center your feet, look up, and you'll find that you're centered.

Good thread, /p/.

You've got an OP who is willing to post photos and take critique. You've also got an anon giving detailed advice.

Nicely done, guys.