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Old one >>2832758 hit the bump limit

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>>2839484
Why on earth would you need a separate thread for a brand?
>isi
Never mind, carry on
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>>2839484
Hi isi rach or eddy
I love you all
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My vote's for the Sonyshill guy attempting some reverse psychologie.

>that x100 leaf shutter
handheld at 1/56, iso 800 - what's not to love?
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I want leaf shutter lens for my fuji or hss.

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>>2839515
>>2839516
>>2839522
Disgusting crushed blacks and over-processed colors. Is this your processing?
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>>2839526
Yes
care to elaborate senpai? you care to show me an example of not
>Disgusting crushed blacks and over-processed colors
or are you talking shit again senpai?

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>>2839532
Your blacks are so dark it looks like some kind of shitty unnatural inkblot or something. Your photos have no dynamic range. Everything in the shadows is invisible.
Your colours are bright and almost insulting to the eye. Think about them more. A photo doesn't have to be colourful to be good.
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>>2839533
It looks like any other high contrast scene after rain. If you want high dynamic range everywhere just do HDR like any other talentless hack on the internet.
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>>2839515
This is the only one where it bothers me, personally. I think the contrast is a step too far for a portrait, and it makes everything look kinda gross and gritty.

I don't mind it in the other shots.
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>>2839526
Oh look, a new troll I look forward to watching derail dozens of photo threads over the next few weeks.
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>>2839539
I was talking about his first three photos brah. Though, that one of the bike in the rain is still pretty shit. :^)
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>>2839545
But he's not wrong...
>>2839563
THE WHITES. THEY BURN MY SOUL!
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>>2839573
>But he's not wrong...

No blacks in your image:
>Your shit is over exposed anon
Raised blacks in your image:
>Fuck you you hipster faggot get your blacks where they belong
True blacks in your image:
>Disgusting crushed blacks

How about we all just shut the fuck up and look at a photo for its content, and stop assuming that our own personal tastes matter. Does the chosen aesthetic support the content and mood of the image? If yes, the shut up. If no, then go into depth about why. Don't just state something you see in an image out loud and leave that to imply that it's bad.
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Went to John Lewis to have a play around with the x100t.

It is fucking nuts.

I'm a film fag pleb, and I've never owned a serious digital camera so the functions were a bit overwhelming. But the EVF and OVF are just amazing. Everything is designed so well, and so much thought went into it.

I tried the Classic Chrome emulation, and it's just wow - I thought it would be too de-saturated, but it gives such a good picture with plenty of character. I really can see myself using this daily while on holiday.

The only thing is the price, I need to wait for the x200 or whatever to come out first, hoping that prices will drop to around £600. Definitely not considering used, I just want my own, first hand camera.
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>>2839576
I had the same experience with the chrome preset. I didn't touch it for years since I never had any luck with chrome films when I used to shoot film. I expected bad skin tones and weird colors elsewhere. Then I saw a review of the XPro2 where a guy shot a bunch of fashion portraits in Chrome with a shifted white balance and they looked amazing. Now I usually start in chrome for portraits when there's good light and contrast, and it does wonders for skin, and the overall contrast in the shot. Very cool.
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>>2839575
But LOOK at that image. Yes, the subject is interesting, YES the composition is alright, but FUCK. The peaked whites destroy what would have been a completely good photo.
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>>2839573

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>>2839515
The background adds pretty much nothing to the photo, why did you shoot this at f8? Lower aperture would've worked better. Also too much contrast and shadows are too dark.

>>2839563
Now this is a pretty good shot, but the highlights pop out too much.

I'm guessing you're using the film simulations in Rawtherapee. Maybe go easier on them, they tend to be pretty strong.
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>>2839615
>why did you shoot this at f8?
Zone focus, I was doing street photography got the shoot while the "protog" was chimping. And I would like add that the AF on fuji and all other cameras are not quick enough for my shooting style.
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>>2839596
>>2839589
>>2839563
>>2839532

What is this? Faceless people day?
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>>2839640
I find peoples faces to be repulsive desu.
Fake smiles and deception. I find body language vastly appealing.

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maybe I'm just fucked in the head.

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>>2839615
I might add can't you see the leading lines.
>fucken masterpiece

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>>2839489
Mines still in the mail, I can't start shilling yet
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>>2839638
Then, why didn't you frame the background better? I don't think the "f8 and be there" really makes sense when shooting crop, f5.6 and be there maybe. And really you're allowed to change the aperture when zone focusing too.

Also why do you keep your iso and shutter speed so slow if you're as fast as you say you are? Doesn't make sense to me.
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>>2839669
>why do you keep your iso and shutter speed so slow if you're as fast as you say you are?
Flash and the fact f8 on the 27mm is the sharpest.
1/180 is the sync speed for my wireless trigger.
1/250 for pc sync.

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>>2839651
kek
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What's the work flow for these raw files I read some shut lighroom doesn't do well with them?
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>>2839581
>Then I saw a review of the XPro2 where a guy shot a bunch of fashion portraits in Chrome with a shifted white balance
Do remember the exact settings for the shift?

And on that matter, for those that give a shit about the jpegs, what are your favorite formulations?
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>>2839719
light room has yet to fully support the x-trans array. even tho a fuck ton foss programs support demosaicing of fuji raws. This also includes Capture One.
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Posting some recent work done with Fuji gear.

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>>2839725
Self portrait

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>>2839728

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>>2839730
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>>2839731
Snapshit/10
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>>2839732

I was really high when I took this but I kinda like it
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>>2839733
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>>2839734
8
Mix of XT1 and x100s
I like the x100s better for evey day use

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>>2839736
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>>2839738
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>>2839638
>And I would like add that the AF on fuji and all other cameras are not quick enough for my shooting style

watch out folks, looks like we got ourselves a fastboy
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>>2839654
im actually pretty jelly, it looks so sexy especially with that red shutter button
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>>2839904
>when the GR's "film simulation" jpeg filters do it better
Sorry fuji guys...

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why didn't fuji go with leaf shutter for interchangeable lenses? that puts me off so much. it was almost the perfect system...
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help me

Fuji x10 or Nikon p7700? No money for fuji x100/x100s/x100t because I don't live in some developed country
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>>2840202
here in the States repairing a damaged Fuji camera is at minimum $400. if you value your money don't forget to factor in repair costs as well. for every day use there are much better, more robust cameras on the market like canon's, nikon's and such
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i got a xpro1 but it have a diopter -2, were can buy a diopter power 0.
internets say that i can use a diopter from a nikon FMA.
i should stay with the -2?
(i can't explain myself, try to decode the question :D)
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>>2840254

I didn't even consider this possibility... is fuji durable? At least X10, because I wouldn't manage to pay this amount for repairs...

so, should I look to Canon G15 as well?
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>>2840176
What about leaf shutter medium format lenses for the future medium format camera that is fully compatible with the current x camera var speedboster.
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>>2840256
I really tried to figure out what youre trying to say anon but...
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>>2840256
Old fuji stuff has its eyepiece threaded the same as nikon stuff, it will probably work fine.
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>>2840402
is this the samyang 12mm
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>>2840433
yes
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>>2840402

was this shot in denmark
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>>2840446
nein. Palanga, Lithuania
https://www.google.ie/maps/@55.9081955,21.0582499,3a,75y,77.54h,86.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTmEqJSUWGupZqvRFY0AQ3A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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Help me Fuji bros...I'm using an X-Pro 2 with the EF-20 flash attached to it and the 18-55mm zoom lens.

Whenever I use the flash, it doesn't matter how much I tilt the flash or how far in or out I zoom the lens...I always get this black bar at the bottom of my photo. Pic related.

What is causing this and how do I stop it? It's like the lens is blocking it or something. It goes away usually in post if I lift the shadows, but is there something I'm doing wrong? Can I just prevent it from happening all together?

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>>2840514
Let me also say that lifting the shadows doesn't get it to go away completely...just enough to see what's underneath.
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>>2840514
You're over your max sync speed of 1/250.
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>>2839671
1/160 is definitely fast enough but i wouldn't worry about sharpness affected by aperture, the difference is usually tiny and sharpness is over rated anyway
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>>2840519
Awesome, thanks. I'll try stopping my shutter speed down and see what happens. Can you tell me more about this or refer me to some reading about it?
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>>2839719
For photos at low resolution (below 2000 pixels) or not being printed, or any scene that doesn't really need ultra sharpness at 100%:
Most up to date Lightroom import, remove all noise reduction on import.

Go in and lower the radius for sharpening to around .6 or .7, and set amount to around 30

Pick a film simulation in the camera calibration pane.

Edit as normal.


If you do need max detail, start in Photo Ninja.
>>2837382
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>>2839723
I believe it was shifted to R:2 and B:3. I'm trying to find the article/review/shoot right now, but I'm having trouble.
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>>2839724
1) Lightroom fully supports the XTrans array, including compressed raw on the XPro2. It just doesn't do it in a way that gives great fine detail. You can absolutely get by with a Lightroom only workflow with a Fuji camera.
2) Capture One doesn't really do any better. A very slight amount, but not enough that it can be seen in the final product. That's my experience anyways. If I'm wrong (and I would be happy to be wrong) please post some comparisons. The only dramatic improvements that I've been able to get over Lightroom will be found in Photo Ninja and Iridient.
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>>2840254
Source? I got my X-T1 repaired for $110 including shipping last year. Got my grip repaired twice for free (out of warranty for the second one)
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>>2840522
Sure no problem. The way your shutter works at fast shutter speeds is not the same as the way it works at slower shutter speeds.

Your flash doesn't light the scene for the whole exposure. It pops very very quickly, and then goes dark. Most flash duration is in the realm of 1/10,000th of a second. That's why in a totally dark room, you can set up a 1 minute exposure and in the middle, pop your flash off, and at the end, your scene will look super sharp with no motion blur.

Below 1/250th, the first curtain opens, and exposes the whole scene to light. 1/250th of a second later, the second curtain follows it and closes off the sensor. So between those two curtains firing, your flash goes off, and the bright scene is captured by the sensor.

For faster shutter speeds, doing it that way would put a lot of stress on the shutter mechanism because it would have to move so fast. So in stead, what happens is this:
The first curtain fires, and starts to expose the sensor. Before it makes it all the way to the bottom of the sensor, the second curtain fires and starts to follow it. This means that at 1/500th, when the first curtain is still covering the bottom 1/4 of the sensor, the second curtain is following it and starting to cover the top of the sensor.

At something like 1/4000th, there's only a tiny slit of the sensor exposed at any time. The first shutter curtain fires and almost instantly after it, the second is firing too.

So since the whole sensor isn't exposed to the scene at once, your flash's super quick duration only happens while a part of the sensor is exposed.

It's sort of tough to explain in words, so ask more questions if I've been unclear.
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>>2840547
This will also do a great job of explaining it:
https://youtu.be/CmjeCchGRQo?t=154
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hello fellow Fujifags :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyKB4OHaDwk
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>>2840547
I think I understand what you mean.

It's kind of like if you were holding two pieces of paper over the sensor.

At 1/500, one piece of paper starts to move before the other one has finished doing its job and that's why the black bar is there.

If this comparison makes sense, then I get what you're saying and your explanation was solid. Thanks.
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>>2840547
I haven't seen such a clear explanation before. Thanks, that helps a lot!
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>>2840565
Exactly, yeah. So when you're above the threshold for where the whole sensor is exposed at once, then you have some portion of the sensor blocked at all times during the shot, and when the flash fires, a lot of the light from the flash-lit scene hits the shutter curtain, rather than the sensor. Then, by the time the shutter is out of the way, and the scene can be read by the sensor, it's not lit by the flash anymore. So it's not actually a BLACK bar at the bottom, it's just a bar of exposure without the flash. So if you have something bright down there, it will still be in the shot.

>>2840568
No problem. It's what I'm here for!
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>>2840579
>So it's not actually a BLACK bar at the bottom, it's just a bar of exposure without the flash. So if you have something bright down there, it will still be in the shot.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh. That explains why the "bar" goes away when you lift the shadows in post, then.

Okay I totally "get it" now. Thanks for your explanation.
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>>2840579
Stupid follow-up question: I've read about FP-TTL for higher speed sync and how that's supposedly an advanced feature between the flash and camera. How would it play into the equation you described?
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>>2840687
A high speed sync flash pops a lower power strobe that lasts for like 1/50th of a second (in stead of one super high power pop at 1/10,000th) so that it's providing light to the scene for the entire time the shutter curtains are traveling.

I'm not sure what "FP-TTL" is but I assume it's the same as "HS-TTL" just another proprietary thing.

Only some flashes are physically capable of doing it.
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Some guy asked about screen black-out on the X-T1. Finally got the gif made.

The framerate of my phone is fighting with the framerate of the screen in the camera a bit, and you don't see it draw in real life.
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>>2840364
Perfect, ill try it then
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>>2840562
Xpro2 a slr body. Meh
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>>2840014
what are you talking about?
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why's the xpro2 so huge. is that a "rangefinder" thing too?
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>>2841134
>why's the xpro2 so huge
its about the same size as a normal range finder and thinner than leica.
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>>2841134
It's not that huge, really, but mostly for ergonomics, as far as I can tell. I use bigger lenses with mine, and I'd hate it if it were smaller. the X-T1's holdable portion of the body is shorter, and my pinkie and ring finger hang off the bottom in a way that makes me uncomfortable.

It's as tall as it is for the viewfinder and the LCD, and it's as wide as it is for the grip and internal hardware and controls, all of which are important.

It doesn't feel very large in hand.
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In case any of my fellow American Fujifags haven't seen this, looks like there's another round of rebates coming May 22nd. Fuji haven't said anything themselves yet, but their lawyers sent a C&D to the X Forum to make them take it down, which kind of lends some weight to it.

Looks like the same deals as last time, so nothing special, but it's probably worth waiting a week before buying anything.

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>>2841266
$300 off the 16mm f/1.4!!
*Starts saving*

Thanks for this anon. Fingers crossed.

Another reason they may have send the C&D would be that when people see things like this, they generally hold off on buying equipment until the rebates kick in, and if they aren't coming, that means a bunch of people who just sit and wait, rather than buying stuff, which can lead to a pretty dramatic lull in sales, especially when your stuff sells so little in the first place.
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Question

Are Fuji in a strong position financially? I am almost about to drop all my Nikon gear and pick up an Xt1 and a bunch of lenses.

Will the x system survive?
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>>2841274
Yeah fairly solid bet. Instax makes them waaaaaay more money for their imaging division than all the X cameras together; they still make optics for industrial and military applications, but the X series is plodding along nicely now. I think if you search the back catalogue on Fuji Rumors you'll find detailed reports to investors, but I can't be fucked doing taht for you.
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new fujifag here

just picked up an xe2s after a few years of shitty dslrs and only occasionally borrowing decent equipment

pretty hyped to finally have some good gear, ta for the tips/advice
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>>2841274
They're still driving new products at a very rapid fire rate, and cutting out products that aren't selling well. Seems like there's no end in sight at the moment. Their last few products have all been rated as best sellers, and there's stock shortages at launch (though take that with a grain of salt)

They aren't major players, but they seem to be taking it seriously. Seems like they'll be around a while.

>>2841286
Nice. Not sure what tips or advice to give without knowing anything about you, but looking forward to seeing your results.
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>>2841274
X-T2 is arriving in around 2 months. Wait for it.
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>>2841274
Fujifilm 2015 Revenue - ¥ 2492.6 billion
Fujifilm 2015 Net income - ¥ 137.1 billion

Thats 3 times more revenue than Nikon mate. I think they are doing just fine.
Of course, they are in the cosmetics, pharma, engineering etc., but a company as a whole they'll be just fine.
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>>2841113
XPro2 with an amazing viewfinder, a vertical and battery grip giving you 3 batteries at once.

Considering the two major issues with the XPro2 are the viewfinder and the battery life...

Either way, it isn't really meant to compete. People who like the rangefinder styling will get the XPro2. People who don't can get the X-T2. It just balances out the offerings.
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>>2841300
Don't be a gear fag.
The XT1 is a great deal right now and the money you save will get you more lenses.

Lenses > new bodies
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>>2841366
Accurate, however, X-T1 prices may go down significantly once the X-T2 is released, so even the good idea of sticking with the excellent X-T1 may still be a better deal if he waits.
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Here is a little thing I'm pondering...

I really fancy the x100t, it just screams "perfect travel camera" in my book. But a friend and fujifan mentioned that it might be worth waiting for the X200, or whatever they will call it.

I assume this is because that the x100t will have their firmware and support end maybe after another year or so - and getting the most out of the system would mean getting it right as it comes out.

It's just a case of waiting I guess, but I doubt it will come out before my holidays :/
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>>2841389
It makes logical sense that the next X100 release will have the new sensor and processing in it, allowing for higher resolution, better detail, and additional film simulations.
Fuji is well known for their long-term support for their bodies (X-T1 is expected to receive another major update, and it's 2.5 years old) so you shouldn't have too much to worry about regarding support and repairs.
This shouldn't bother you, as most cameras don't receive major firmware updates at ALL, and the X100t doesn't have any glaring flaws that need correcting.
There are no known rumors about the next version of the model, so chances are good, it's not right on the horizon.

Chances are good, the current camera would treat you just fine.
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>>2841266
Did they say where the purchases had to be made?

These aren't mail in rebates are they? Just stores will have their shit marked down to these prices on May 22nd?
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>>2841396
Generally they're instant rebates with Fuji, but I have no information about this new rumored round.
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>>2839484
help guys i just got memed hard

i bought a fujinon 23mm 1.4 and its enormous

how can one ever do street photography with one of these monsters
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>>2841422
it's not that big m8
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>>2841422
Enormous?

Here's a comparison against a 7D. My Sigma 35 is loaned out right now, but this shitty Tamron super wide is about the same size.

Looks very compact in comparison.

Also, I realize you're trolling, but just for any spectators wondering, any shots you're taking of people on a 35mm equivalent lens are going to be from close enough that your body and your attention are what will be drawing their eye, not your lens. And if you're far enough away that they don't notice your body and attention, the difference in camera/lens size is nothing to them.

Don't get a smaller camera to shoot street. Just learn to shoot street well with whatever you have. A smaller camera won't help at all.

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>>2841392
>as most cameras don't receive major firmware updates at ALL,

This is a massive thing for me, Fuji really give a fuck and that's huge in this consumerist market.

Yeah, you're dead right - there is not one ounce of even tangible speculation, it's all conjecture. There were rumours it will be 28mm instead of 35mm which would be a disaster in my opinion (coming from someone that LOVES his 28mm lens).

The x100 series is just constant improvement on the next, and after playing with it, it's just sublime - what an amazing piece of kit.
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>>2841266
Working at a shop has some perks. I get to see lists like these (for every brand) all the time.

>>2841396
Price will be the same at every authorized dealer, instant savings (at checkout), not mail-in.

>>2841274
Fuji's fine, you got nothing to worry about. I'm making the switch end of the year too.
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>>2841422
It's a little girthy, but much smaller than most alternatives.

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any of you lads know where the heck i can get a decent crack of photo ninja? can only find it in russian or x32. thanks in advance
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>>2841443
There's a portable version that I was using before I just up and bought it. It worked well, 64 bit. Not sure where to find it these days though. It wasn't one of the last two releases though.

Unfortunately, it's not a well known or much used program, so there's not much out there.
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>>2841366
I'm waiting for the XT2 as well. Yeah, the XT1 is a great camera, but I'm also dumping Nikon and one thing I really don't want to lose is direct control of AF points. The XT2 solves that issue.

I'm gonna check an XPro2 out as well, but I'm not sure if the finder will cut it for me or not. I have an X100 and the hybrid finder is really cool, but if the XPro's finder is the same size, I don't think I can deal with using it for a primary camera.
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are the x100 and x100s still a good deal for a cheap backpack camera?
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>>2841456
I bought an X100 for exactly that reason and I absolutely love it. In fact, it's the reason I'm planning on switching from FF Nikon to Fuji.

It may be a few years old, but it's still an absolutely awesome camera and the results are gorgeous. Here's a snapshit I took with it between classes.

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Fuji X100T viewfinder started acting weird.
the small box that pops up in the bottom right won't go down and the screen that pops up for the EVF won't come up.
I went to the beach and it fell in the sand. Do you think that hass something to do with it?
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>>2841422
then get the 27mm 2.8 pancake. Its also cheap as chips and uber sharp
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>>2841488
Could be. Hard to say.
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Can anyone who also owns a Canon 5d2 post a picture comparing it to their Fuji? Specifically in terms of dynamic range and noise performance. I know they're both pretty much necessarily better, I just want to see by how much.
I know they all pretty much share the same sensor so either will do.
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>>2841513
When I get back to my house, I will be able to post you a raw file from both, but unfortunately I sold my 5D to get my Fuji, so I have no direct comparisons. Hopefully someone else will be able to. In the meantime, I can tell you that the dynamic range difference, and the ability to push the Shadows up is a dramatic Improvement on the Fuji.
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>>2841513
when my fuji xpro1 comes in the mail, i can compare it to a 5d3? on Wednesday hopefully?
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Hey guys, what you think about the 18mm f2 on a Xpro1?
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>>2841530
Good lens for the price. Nowhere near as sharp as the 35 f1.4 but it was never going to be. Between those two lenses I haven't felt any need for anything else
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>>2841536
What about the 35mm f2?
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>>2841564
Love mine. Very sharp and clean. Great AF, solid build, nice images.
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>>2841568
Seems pretty good deal
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>>2841523
>>2841525
Awesome, thanks guys
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>>2841573

heres this too

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=canon_eos5dmkiii&attr13_1=canon_eos5dmkii&attr13_2=fujifilm_xpro1&attr13_3=fujifilm_xpro2&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=100&attr16_1=100&attr16_2=200&attr16_3=200&attr171_3=off&normalization=full&widget=1&x=0.8791578947368421&y=0.20079165167326377
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>>2841501
This
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>>2841568
Samples from 35mm f2 please? Thinking about getting one.
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>>2841573
Here's a few files of each.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/etv4s4elyudyuz6/AAAeYfOTXfQBLQ_QbhrW3xjSa?dl=0

Not a great comparison because I don't have them in similar shooting conditions unfortunately, but you can see dynamic range and noise characteristics at least.

For the high ISO ones, you're going to be unhappy with the RAFs if you're in lightroom, but something like PhotoNinja will treat them much better.
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>go onto /p/
>Shit Posters and shills everywhere
>Go into this Fuji thread
>Bros, helpful people, advice & recommendations
>The comfiest thread
:)
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>>2841606
Fuji bros are best bros.
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>>2841578
Oh wow, this is really helpful. Thanks!
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>>2841586
Thanks, I'll have a look at them once I get back home
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>>2841513
If they don't come through I can provide a side by side in a couple of days for XP1/XP2/5D2. Am on the road at the moment
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>>2841615
>>2841710
Ah that's probably even better haha
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>>2839484
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>>2841754
>spraying and praying
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>>2841513
I shoot Fuji and Canon side by side for work.

DR, Fuji smashes the 5Diii.
ISO, It's VERY close but 5Diii wins.
Auto focus, XT1 is very close x100s not so much. Fast moving subjects, 5Diii wins.
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>>2833181
>I got myself a phablet and a OTG cable to put images from my camera to the phone.
does this work with iphones? tried connecting mine to my fuji and i get nothing
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16mm vs 23mm as a daily shooter on X-T10? Street, pretty close up. Just wonder if the 24mm equivalent is too wide. I guess both will be a bit big on the tiny X-T10.
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>>2841975
That depends on nothing but you and your style.
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I'm gonna go fondle an XPro2 and see how I feel about the VF.

Depending on how that goes I might be selling my Nikon gear and going Fuji pretty damn soon.

Also, there's an XPro2 + 35 1.4 + EF-20 + 2 spare batts for $1950 on local CL right now. Think that's a good deal?
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>>2842341
Depends on the condition, but it's probably an okay deal. Body is still 1700 new, and the 35 f/1.4 is like $600 new (somehow)
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>>2842343
Dude calls it "10/10 Like New" but I'd have to see it in person, obviously. Looks good in pics and he's selling so soon after release that I won't be too surprised if it's in nice shape though.

I'd be all over it if the lens were the 23 and not the 35.
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>>2842352
The 35 is still an excellent lens, optically. Quirky in terms of AF, but still great images come out of it. I'd say the quirks are enough that I wouldn't pay more than $400 for it, but you're paying about $200, so you're in good shape.
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>>2842353
I just don't like the focal length that much. I barely use my 50 1.4 on FF, while my 35 1.4 is my most heavily used lens.

I'm still trying to figure out exactly what setup go with. My budget is looking like it'll be somewhere 3k and 4k and that doesn't leave a lot of room for glass, especially because I need to get the 50-140 before too long.
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>>2842343
there's going to be another round of rebates for fuji's lenses in the next couple of days. the 35mm is going to be slashed from the current price of $600 to $300
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>>2842358
the 35 f1.4?
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OK, so I just got back from Samy's. The XPro2's VF is much more usable with glasses than I'd been lead to believe. I'm pretty well willing to go with one.

They're also having this whole PhotoConLA hullabaloo this weekend, and supposedly it'll have a lot of good deals, but dunno if they'll be any better than the Fuji rebates that are coming next week.
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>>2842485
that was a bit of my concern as well. glad it's not bad.
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>>2842388
Oh that's good to know! I'm probably one of the ones who was warning you away, as I DON'T wear glasses, and I have issues sometimes. I'll be more cautious giving the advice in the future.
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>>2842522
Damn it.

Obviously meant for
>>2842485
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>>2842522
I'd still say it's worth trying it out and seeing how it is. It's definitely not great, but I don't think it's a camera-killer. I'd at least keep telling people that they should try before they buy, if possible.
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>all cameras that can take instax film are fucking stupid

How can a company that makes the X series not apply this level of class and quality to their instant lineup?
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>>2842725
>Done
next time we kill fp-3000b.
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>>2841362
>Considering the two major issues with the XPro2 are the viewfinder
Citation needed.

It may be bad for you but it's perfectly fine for me.
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>>2842731
Would prefer an instax wide printer.
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>>2843553
Why not jumbo printer
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>>2843587
because that size's just the right size. similar to a polaroid print. small but not too small
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>>2842725
>>2842731
Does anyone have any tips for optimal settings for their X cam for printing instax from an sp-1?

I know that it crops everything to 4:3 or some shit, and stuff always seems over exposed.

I'd love to experiment (and waste a lot of film in the process), but if some anon on here has already done so and would like to share the fruits of their research, well, I'm all fucking ears.
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>>2843643
The dynamic range of Instax prints is fuck all, so using pro neg S and pulling highlights and shadows is a good starting point.
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>>2843646
Fanks.
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>>2839484
Fuji is the new Leica
X is the new M

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are fuji cameras shit or are fuji fans just terrible?

i like the cameras but seeing this thread really makes me want to avoid fuji.
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>>2844341
i can't make your mind up for you but the fujis i've tried are better than the canons and sonys i've tried, and i'd say about on par with nikon

if you wanna find out for yourself go and try one
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>>2844344

Would asking to try a fuji then running off once they hand you the camera actually work?

I mean I don't think they would run after you.
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>>2842358
>the 35mm is going to be slashed from the current price of $600 to $300

the 35 1.4 that nobody wants because the f2 is better in every single way?
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>>2844380
>Except at working at f/1.4
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>>2844391

if i wanted a bigger hole I would have asked for your mom
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>>2844392
Yeah she's a wiz with a strap on.
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>>2844395

so that's how she got you to not scream. with a spell
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>>2844396
No, with a ball gag. But you'd know that.
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>>2844398

that's not a come back you just admit you get pegged by your mom
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>>2844400
No shit. You were there. I couldn't quite take the girth you could though.
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>>2844401

you already lost bruh stop grasping
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>>2844380
The f/1.4 is still great. It's optically really nice, has excellent out of focus areas, and really, it's the difference between having a 50mm f/2 and a 50mm f/2.8.

The build is a little strange, and the AF is truly not great, so a price drop would make sense, but to say that nobody wants it is unfair.
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Crap, my X-T10 seems to have developed a pair of hot pixels. There's no way to do a remap yourself, right? It's under warranty still so I guess I can just bring it in.
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>>2844411
>but to say that nobody wants it is unfair.

since the f2 came out nobody is buying the 1.4 that's why fuji is slashing the price and dropping them soon.

they did the same thing to the x-m1 and now doing to the x-pro1
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>>2844411
Take this with a grain of salt since it's not real-world, but I tested them both out on an XPro2 in the store the other day, and at least on the back of the camera the results from both looked pretty much identical. Even bokeh was a toss-up.
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>>2844419
the 1.4 is still $599 at B&H...

But I bought mine for $350 last year from the same place. I wonder what made it fall so low before
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>>2844419
I just got a 35 1.4.
F2 on APSC has the same DOF as 2.8/3.5 on full frame. Fuck that.
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Have any of you guys used FlashQ triggers?
Will be using them with an X100s and XT1 just wanted to know what you guys thought
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>>2843643
I normally underexpose by a stop

Also repostan pic from the recent photo thread

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Man, so I'm really torn after going to the PhotoConLA thing today. I think I'm ready to trade my Nikon gear in and buy Fuji tomorrow, as long as Samy's will beat KEH pricing. (Usually they will do so by at least 10% or so if it's a trade-in.)

Depending on whether I trade in my X100, that'll give me somewhere in the $3,400-3,800 range to put into a Fuji system. I know I want the 23 1.4 and the 50-140, but the rest of the system is where I'm really torn.

I could get an XPro2, which I really like, and with those two lenses and a flash that would be pretty much my whole budget, or maybe a bit over.

OR, I could get an XT1 with 18-55 for $1400, which includes the battery grip as a show special, and the two lenses I mentioned, and have some breathing room left over. I guess I could also get the XT1 without kit lens and maybe get a wide prime instead, too.

I'd much rather have the XPro2 than the XT1, but on the other hand I think I might be better off with a slightly less body in exchange for more glass.

Also, I'll be buying a Nikon adapter for use with my Rokinon 85 1.4 regardless of which option I pick.

What does /p/ think?
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>>2844651
What are you going to be shooting with it?

I have an XP2/XT1/XP1; the biggest difference between the XT-1 and the XP-2 is the shooting experience - yeah there's an image quality improvement on the new sensor and yeah Acros is nice, but the biggest changes are in handling. The XP-2 feels like the proper execution of what they wanted the XP-1 to be; if it's important to have the OVF, or to be able to maintain eye contact with a subject as you shoot, then get the X Pro; if you're happy with SLR-type ergos and unlikely to make prints large enough to stretch a 16MP sensor you can still statisfied with the XT-1.

That being said, so much of why I've doubled down on Fuji *is* the shooting experience- they're fun to shoot; the XT-1 is lovely to use and definitely makes me want to pick it up and shoot, but the X Pro bodies do that more for me. Your mileage may vary.

And of course be aware that the XT-2 won't be that far away; if you're patient you might want to consider it instead, or consider if that will make XT-1 prices drop. I get that you're getting a deal as a show special but it's worth pointing out.
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>>2844666
Yeah, I'm well aware that the XT-2 is in the pipe. It's looking more and more like we won't see it until Photokina in September, though, and that means it won't hit stores until Oct or Nov. I'd like to have a new camera for stuff that's happening during the summer, plus after playing with both bodies I think I prefer the OVF and RF styling of the XPro anyway.

I shoot a pretty general mix of stuff these days, but the core subjects are portraits/cosplay and automotive events including a bit of on-track action. My core lenses on FF are the 35 1.4 and 70-200 2.8, hence wanting the Fuji equivalents.
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>>2844667
Righto. Yeah just wanted to make sure you were aware; figured you would be.

I'd suggest the XP2 as well then, if you're trying for on track stuff- bigger buffer, faster card support, etc. It's doable with X-series cameras - there's several people doing it now - but you'll probably notice a difference from an SLR there- fast moving subjects are one of the places SLRs still have a measurable edge.
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>>2844669
Yeah, that's kind of the conclusion I came to as well.

SLRs definitely still have an edge on tracking AF, but I'm not shooting racing professionally anymore, and racing is surprisingly light on equipment anyway. I got some pretty solid shots out of my D50 with a kit zoom way back in the day. I'm also confident that mirrorless will close the gap pretty damn fast, and the XPro2 will probably get FW updates to make it even better than it already is.

I'm just trying to figure out if my budget makes it or not. With the XPro2 I definitely can't afford to add a wide or even the kit 18-55, leaving me with just the 23 and 50-140. I'll have to see just how willing to deal Samy's is, the guy said they'd give a better rate if it was in trade credit but I'm not sure how much that's going to equate to. I'll need about 20% more than KEH's cash rate to outright pay for the setup I want, unless I sell my X100 too. (I need about 3700 and KEH adds up to about 3100 w/o X100 and 3400 with it, although at CL prices my setup would be worth about 4800 w/ X100.)
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>>2844678
Righto, interesting.

I'd usually default to glass over body every time however I'm still in the honeymoon period of buying an XP-2 (except for the ISO dial which I don't love lol) and like I said, so many people go X-series for the shooting experience which I personally think is maximised with the rangefinder-styled bodies, so if I were in your shoes I'd be trying to find a way to make the XP2 work haha.

If you're looking for a cheap stopgap wide, apparently a lot of people are using the 16-50 XC as a cheap 16mm prime; it's not the same build quality as the XF lenses, but it's apparently pretty good for bang for buck.
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>>2844687
Interesting, that 16-50 might be an option. I don't need a wide all that badly, so it's not a huge concern right now though.

The 14mm is also pretty affordable ($500) with rebates, I'll have to read some reviews and stuff though, and it won't be one of the first lenses I add to my kit.
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>>2844702
I haven't used the 16-50, but I love my 14mm
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>>2844529

>bokeh meme
>muh WA doesnt have shallow dof
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>>2844651

dude get the x-pro1 it's on sale for $500

then get the 16 1.4 that lens is INSANE

after that get a 35 f2 for normal and 55-200 for tele, they are post spectacular lens

save the rest of the money for pizza and accessories
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>>2844791
That setup makes absolutely zero sense for what I shoot, though.

I need the AF, better controls, better EVF, and better sensor of the XPro2. The XPro1 would be a HUGE downgrade from my D610.

The lens setup you suggest makes no sense for me. I have no use for a fast ultrawide, I strongly prefer 35mm to 50mm, and I need a fast tele for portraits and car stuff.

I kind of need to spend everything I get out of trading in my gear anyway, because I'll get way less if I take cash and not store credit.
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>>2844803
Dramatic sales going on on pretty much everything right now. Didn't read through the thread, but did you see that in your math/
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>>2844805
Yeah, I think I'm pretty set on XP2 + 23 1.4 + 50-140 as an initial setup, along with whatever Fuji's more advanced flash is called and some extra batts. I just hope I can get enough out of my Nikon gear to cover it.
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>>2844808
I have all three of those, and love them.

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>>2844809
Which lens is that? 50-140 I'm guessing?

That bokeh is fucking gorgeous, almost makes you wonder why anybody bothers with FF anymore. I know /p/ loves to shit on bokeh whoring, but it's a damn useful tool when you're shooting people in shitty locations. (Which is more the rule than the exception when it comes to the cosplay shit I do.)
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>>2844817
Yeah that was the 50-140. I love that lens.

The narrowness of the depth of field can't compete with the extremes you can get on FF, but the quality of the out of focus areas is there, and scene selection is important no matter what lens you have, or what aperture you're shooting at.

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>>2844820
I don't really mind the extra stop of DoF anyway, since the lenses are so sharp that you can shoot them wide open when you'd want to stop down on FF.

Man, I really hope I can make this happen tomorrow. I feel like I've stagnated so badly with Nikon these last few years and it'd be nice if Fuji was the kick in the pants that I've been wishing for.
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>>2844820
Oh, by the way, is that Columbus? My old man is from the Cleveland area and I have a good friend from Columbus, so I've poked around there a bit.
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>>2844823
I haven't ever found gear to give any real or permanent bump in my work, as most of the photos I take just to use new gear tend to suck and be taken for the wrong reasons, but I genuinely hope that that isn't the case for you.

>>2844824
Columbus it is. Walking around the river near/behind COSI. Nicely spotted (or creeped, or whatever you did).

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>>2844831
Honestly the biggest bump I expect to get is that I'll be more likely to take my gear places, since it's so much smaller and lighter than my current FF Nikon setup.

I was a /p/ro of sorts until last year, but until I got my X100 a few months ago I hadn't shot any personal work in years. I've shot more "fun" photography with it in the last 4 months than I had with Nikon in the last 5 years, and it's really made me wish for more focal lengths and faster overall performance. I'm hoping that I can combine the things I love about the X100 with the capabilities that I need for serious work by going all-Fuji.

As for the Columbus thing, I did creep a bit, by Googling that USBank building. I recognized it and couldn't place where I'd seen it before, thought you might be a local (LA) anon for a sec until I remembered that our USBank building is fucking huge.
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>>2844809
I also feel like I should point out:
I'm the resident "Put your RAF files into Photo Ninja and deal with a complex workflow for great detail" guy here on /p/, and I post lots of examples of comparisons between PN and LR for detail, BUT:
This one was just imported straight into LR, set to the Chrome camera calibration, and then had the Superia 400 VSCO preset applied.
That's it.
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>>2839484
Spinning the exposure dial clockwise decreases EV (but only in program mode, otherwise it does nothing)
> less light

Spinning the front ISO dial clockwise decreases iso
> more light

Spinning the rear ISO dial clockwise INCREASES iso
> less light

Spinning the shutter dial clockwise decreases shutter speed
> more light

Spinning the aperture dial clockwise increases f number
> less light

> Pushing the dial buttons in on either of the dials does not function as a menu select, even though spinning the dials moves up and down the menus.

> The ISO menu is inexplicably unresponsive, and has slow, ugly animations that you can't disable.

WTF Fuji?

Only a Fuji designer could screw usability up this bad. This is like going up and down a building where the men's and women's restrooms randomly switch sides across floors. There is 0 consistency in this interface. How does anyone adapt to these thoughtless hodgepodge controls? Is there a way to fix them in the settings?

This is an honest question because I came from a Nikon D90 and their camera software/ergonomics actually behaved in a sane manner.

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>>2844972
>Spinning the exposure dial clockwise decreases EV (but only in program mode, otherwise it does nothing)

It changes exposure comp in shutter and aperture priority. Even in manual it can push or pull ISO if you've got it on auto
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>>2844413
Anyone gotten hot pixels fixed on their Fuji? How long did it take?
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How's the 27mm f2.8? Got offered it as a trade for my 35mm f1.4 I'm selling.
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>>2845011
I don't think it's worth the trade for the 35mm - you can pick it up during the right rebates for about $200 and for that it's a bargain - very sharp, quite small - though an unconventional focal length. But yeah... I wouldn't personally trade a 35mm f/1.4 for it, having owned both.
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>>2845014
>though an unconventional focal length.

27mm is about the closest you can get to normal on an aps-c sensor. i dont see how that is 'unconventional'
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>>2845018
40mm are not a commonly bought 35mm focal length in comparison to 50s and 30s.
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>>2845038

im not sure why exactly the 50 is chosen as the 'standard normal' but going by the definition of a normal being 'diagonal of the film' then the normal for 35mm is 43mm and 28mm for apsc
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>>2845014
I wouldn't trade it straight, I'd want the pancake guy to pay towards it for sure. You can get a grey market 27mm new for around €250, so I think it'd be fair to expect that.
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>>2845043
Because autistic people usually don't get to make product decisions for multinational corporations
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>>2845077

i have no idea what oyu are trying to say
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>>2845043
I suspect that 50mm is simply an easy focal length to manufacture, for whatever reason. "True normal" lenses tend to be slow pancakes and not the f/1.4 and 1.8 glass of 50mms, and yet generally cost a lot more than 50mm 1.8s, and I assume it's something to do with ease of manufacture.

Personally I don't like any of the "normal" focal lengths, and despite having owned quite a few I've never really found a good use for them. The whole "approximates the human eye" thing never made sense to me, because our eyes are constantly moving and we have peripheral vision, which makes a moderate wide more suited to capturing "being there," and they don't have the perspective effects of a tele. That's not to say that great photos can't be taken with a 50, but I've never found them conducive to interesting photography.
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Why would you buy an x100 of any iteration when you can buy a used x-e2 and whatever lens you want? Unless you really want the optical finder I guess.
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>>2845110
to have the most compact, optically fine 35mm-equiv. shooter possible with a leaf shutter. those are the only advantages I can see.

the fujinon 23mm 1.4 is even better than all the x100's optically, but it's a lot bigger and as heavy as the cam itself.

I havent used them but I hear that the pancakes are not as sharp as the little lens on the x100's (and theyre a different focal length)

these issues didnt bother me so i got an x-t10 and a lens.
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>>2845120
>I havent used them but I hear that the pancakes are not as sharp as the little lens on the x100's (and theyre a different focal length)
the fuji 27mm is definitely sharper than the x100 lens
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>>2845110
Optical finder and the 23/2. There's no lens for the X-system that has the combination of FL, speed, and size that the X100's built-in lens does. Maybe if Fuji adapts the X100 lens to interchangeable that'll change, but I suspect they've specifically avoided doing so to keep the X100 relevant.

The X100 also has a leaf shutter and built-in ND filter, and there's not really any point in having an ILC if you've got an FF DSLR system and just want the X100 as a casual camera, as is the case with many buyers.
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>>2845137
It's probably like Sony's RX-1 camera where you have the advantage of having a super short flange distance for a non-interchangeable lens camera. It wouldn't be possible to adapt it to the X-mount ILCs.
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>>2845110
Optical finder, small 35mm equivalent lens, nice design, leaf shutter, built in ND filter
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>>2845102
More likely because "true normal" is totally useless for anything actually involving taking photos. Why would "the diagonal of the film" matter at ALL?
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>>2845177
Supposedly because it's the most accurate to the eye's perspective, and has none of the perspective distortion that a wide or tele does.

I also find that irrelevant, though. The distortion inherent in wides and teles can be a lot of what makes a photo interesting.
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>>2845184
This fucking bullshit is still going around? Haven't we beaten this fucking dead horse into the earth?

Your eyes see more than 180 degrees FOV. So if you want to match that, you'll need a fucking 4mm lens, and an enormous display. your DETAIL view is less than 3 degrees of your total vision, so if you want to match that, you'll need about 800mm.

There is no such thing as lens distortion (other than UWA distortion) and perspective distortion is only a matter of where you're standing, not what lens you have.

There is no "35mm to 50mm lens that matches the field of human vision" at all. 50mm used to be a standard because it was versatile, and could be made fast without being made huge. It was a middle ground between a wide and a high quality fast lens without major vignetting, or being physically huge.
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>>2845190
Hey I agree with what you said, I was just repeating the justification that a lot of people use for shooting 50mms.

Functionally there is perspective distortion, though, because when comparing lenses we generally compare them at the same framing and choice of lens affects where you're standing. It's just like comparing bokeh between crop and FF, yes the lens is technically creating the same DoF at the same distance but as photographers we generally change our distance to maintain framing.
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>>2845201
>Functionally there is perspective distortion, though, because when comparing lenses we generally compare them at the same framing and choice of lens affects where you're standing.

A 23mm on APS-C and a 35mm on FF will have the same field of view from the same place, and will have the same perspective distortion from the same place.
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What are you hopes and dreams for the x200?
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>>2845110
Comes down to leaf shutter for me, I love strobing.
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>>2845409
I will replace my X100S if;
-More function buttons (at least 1 more)
-Better at F2
-XPro 2 ISO dial
-Weather sealing
-Sensor to turn EVF off when my eye is away like the XT1

Bonus mode: 2 SD cards and bigger battery
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So I'm the guy who was mulling over the XT1 vs X-Pro2 decision last night. I think the pic shows the choice I made.

I bought the X-Pro2, 23mm 1.4, 56mm 1.2, and an EF-42. The 50-230 was included for free with the purchase. and can't wait to try it. I didn't get quite enough from trading in my Nikon gear to cover the 50-140, and decided that I'd rather have the 56mm for portraits anyway.

The 56mm was out of stock at the PhotoCon show, so I have to go pick it up at Samy's tomorrow, along with a spare battery I paid for.

I'm head over heels for this camera so far. I absolutely love using manual focus with the OVF and the little corner screen set to split image, it's almost as good as a real RF or MF SLR.

I'll be picking up a Metabones adapter and trying it with my Rokinon 85 1.4 sometime soon as well, I think it'll make a pretty good long portrait lens and hopefully the focus assist will work well with it. It'll essentially be a 135/2, which is a lens I always wanted on FF and never had, so I'm pretty stoked about trying it.

>>2845214
That's correct, I was referring to a 35mm on APS-C vs. a 35mm on FF, though.

Put in another form, a 35mm on FF vs an 85mm on FF will have different perspective distortion for the same framing, because you'll be different distances from your subject to get that framing.
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>>2845459
>It'll essentially be a 135/2, which is a lens I always wanted on FF and never had,

Hmm, never thought of that though both 85 1.4 and 135 2 are popular portrait lenses. Though I guess you more or less have the 85 1.4 equiv with the 56 1.2. That is a really good set of lenses you chose, makes me want to get into an APS system.
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>>2845459
You're gonna spend a lot of time shooting absolutely pointless crap just for the joy of shooting that camera, mate - welcome to the X-series!

Worthwhile reading around for some of the undocumented/poorly documented features, too - off the top of my head things like being able to use the ERF window in the OVF at "zoom to fit" mode, so you can preview the whole composition, or tonal settings; holding down "erase" for longer than three seconds then pressing in on the rear command dial to quickly format; pressing "Q" during playback to go straight to the RAW converter.

Have fun!
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Here's some bullshit snapshit of my parrot that I just took with the 23mm. Missed focus a bit because even my old D3S couldn't keep up with an erratic parrot, but I think it shows the bokeh and general "look" of the XP2 images pretty well. This is processed in LR as well, I guess I'll have to start messing with PhotoNinja or whatever soon. (I also noticed that my copy of LR CC can read the RAWs and has the color profiles, but is lacking lens correction profiles for Fuji, hopefully that changes soon, or maybe I just need to update.)

>>2845463
I'm really hoping ditching FF for APS was the right call myself. It was a pretty big "pit of the stomach" leap to make, but I think it's the way of the future. The bullshit test shots I've taken so far would seem to back that up, too.

>>2845464
Haha, I can already tell I'm not gonna be able to put this thing down for a while. It's not actually my first X camera, as I had an X100 (which I just traded in on this), but it's my first real Fuji system camera. I just can't wait to get out and shoot some real stuff, there's a big convention next week and I'm really looking forward to using that 56mm for some cosplay photos.

Thanks for the tip on the "secret" features, by the way. I'll definitely do some reading on those. Overall I'm pretty amazed at how quickly I was able to figure all of the major things out without cracking the manual, though, Fuji really does seem to understand how experienced photogs think.

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>>2845476
>Fuji really does seem to understand how experienced photogs think.
Honestly that's my favourite thing about the range- it really feels like the design was headed by photographers, not engineers.

LR and ACR have lens profiles but they're pre-baked when you open the raw - I can't remember how LR informs you of that because I rarely use it but in the lens correction tab for ACR there's a little flag saying the correction profile has already been applied. PN will resolve detail better, but you lose the colour profiles, so pick your priorities.
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>>2845478
Ah, that makes sense about the lens profiles. My old m43 Panasonic was the same way, but my X100 wasn't.

I didn't know PN lacked the color profiles either. I think for the stuff I shoot I'd rather have the colors than the detail, actually.
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>>2845481
>I'd rather have the colors than the detail, actually.

Most of the time, I find myself thinking the same. The other times, I'll use Photo Ninja or carefully punch out a jpeg from the camera raw editor, which isn't too bad - though I'd kill for a curves tool
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>>2845483
Oh, does ACR not have curves? I've been using LR since the LR2 beta and didn't learn about shooting RAW until a little bit after that, so I've actually never used ACR.

I personally love LR, largely because I hate manually keeping track of folders full of photos. LR makes it so easy to find stuff.
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>>2845487
>Oh, does ACR not have curves?

It does- I was referring to the raw converter in camera. I've been using ACR with Bridge to catalogue for too long to change to LR, haha.
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>>2839515

>>2839532
>>2839563
>>2839728

Really like these photos. I'm a complete retard when it comes to cameras and manipulation software, and I was wondering how these kinds of vintage looking, deep color, low exposure kind of pictures are created. I really like the aesthetic of them. Any information would be helpful.
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>>2845488
Oh gotcha, when you said "camera raw" I thought you meant ACR.

I'll have to try some in-camera JPEGs anyway, since I hear they're great. Maybe I'll try shooting with RAWs on one card and JPEG on the other.
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>>2845409
- I would like an xpro2-style grip instead of the slight bump along the edge.
- An xpro2 ISO dial (and bit beefier dials to go with it)
- All the buttons on the back moved to the right hand side, though maybe there's not enough space for that
- non-dumb on/off switch
- New xtrans sensor but that's probably a given

Mostly cosmetic/ergonomic improvements I'd like to see along with the new sensor. They've otherwise nailed it.
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>>2845459
>Put in another form, a 35mm on FF vs an 85mm on FF will have different perspective distortion for the same framing, because you'll be different distances from your subject to get that framing.
Because perspective distortion comes from where you stand, and not your lens. Which means that a 43mm lens is not "no perspective distortion"

If you tie it in with a choice of subjects that are a certain size, a preferred distance from which to shoot that subject, and a specific display size, then yes, you might find that the amount of distortion you find around 40mm to match what you would expect to see, but literally any lens shows the exact level of distortion as you would see with the naked eye when standing at the same position.
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>>2845459
>It'll essentially be a 135/2
Without a speed booster, it will be around a 135 f/2.8, and you can buy a $10 dumb adapter to facilitate it.

WITH a speed booster, it will be close to a 100mm f/2, as speed boosting removes a great deal of the "crop factor" you get without it, in exchange for the more expected depth of field capabilities.
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>>2845476
>but is lacking lens correction profiles for Fuji, hopefully that changes soon, or maybe I just need to update.)
As the other anon said, the lens profile is baked in, and can't be adjusted as you would expect.

If you go to lens profiles in the Develop module, you'll see the following (circled) and if you click the little "i" you get the (starred) window.

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>>2845509
1.5 crop factor so 85 1.4 will look like a 127.5 f/2.1 right? That's how I've done it but I'm not super sure.
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>>2845517
The speed booster will affect that crop factor. In stead of being 1.5x

for instance, the FD to X mount speed booster adds a .7x "un"crop.

So it would be 85*1.5=127.5
127.5*.7=89.3mm

So you'd have a fast 89mm lens.
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>>2845526
I'm not talking about the speedbooster, just the 85 1.4 on the Fuji.

>Without a speed booster, it will be around a 135 f/2.8
Why would it act like a 2.8 instead of an f/2?
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>>2845532
It wouldn't that was a bad quick ballpark. It would be closer to f/2, you're correct.

If you aren't going with a speed booster, and the lens has aperture control on the lens (rather than needing electronics or an iris like normal EF lenses do) then you'll be dramatically overpaying with Metabones. Something cheap and simple is all you need.
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So, I'm thinking about to buy a X10 with some problem

the camera turn on, but doesn't turn off! you need to wait 2minutes for self turning off

worth to pay about 140us?
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>>2845534
I'm actually the guy who wants to put the 85 on my X-Pro2, and the guy you were talking to was somebody else.

Anyway, yeah, I guess it wouldn't have to be the Metabones. I was just looking at their dumb adapter since it's like $100 and I know it'll be a high quality product. Maybe a cheap one is the way to go.

I've generally found that I "lose" about a stop of DoF between FX and DX, by the way. I did this test a while back, to answer a question somebody posted in another thread here, and you can see that the two shots are damn near identical.
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>>2845190
>Your eyes see more than 180 degrees FOV.

false

>

There is no such thing as lens distortion (other than UWA distortion) and perspective distortion is only a matter of where you're standing, not what lens you have.

false
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>>2845214
>and will have the same perspective distortion from the same place.

false
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>>2845542
well at least you're an easy troll to slay.
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>>2845543
Prove it.
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>>2845544

>this image without explanation proves everything

stand up straight, extend your arms to both side of your body like so

look straight ahead, can you see your hands?

how can you not see your hands if you have >180deg vision?
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>>2845548
I absolutely can see my hands.
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>>2845551

im sure you can.

and i can fly
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>>2845546

for the same framing of a subject, a background object appears larger while using a long-focal lens.

how could this occur if the perspective is the same?
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>>2845555
>from the same place
So you moved, which means you're not in the same place...
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>>2845541
>That shape of the bokeh highlights on the Nikon

Do you have a shot of the Rokinon at f/1.4?
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>>2845557

here's another 'perspective'.

a higher focal length lens has less 'bending power'

a large sensor on a higher focal length lens projects a smaller angled cone of FOV

at a particular sensor size/focal length/distance ratio, a small sensor and large sensor cone will intercept.

this is the point where a subject would be framed 'the same' between the two systems.

however behind or infront of this plane the cone diverges and thus the perspective
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>>2845560
What?

Also, whatever you're trying to say, you're wrong.

If your feet don't move, and the subject doesn't move, the lens or sensor don't matter, the perspective will be the same.

If you'd like to try to disprove it, post photos, not drawings.
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>>2845558
Not a direct test shot like that but here's an actual photo with it at 1.4.

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>>2845562

>If your feet don't move, and the subject doesn't move, the lens or sensor don't matter, the perspective will be the same.

you are chanting a mantra at this point.

i have shown you using a simplified model of geometrical optics, so if im wrong then you either have to show that my understanding of the maths/physics is wrong, or that maths/physics themselves are wrong.

Im not gonna go outside to set up a test to show you how wrong you are, that's too much effort for me. i don't mind spending a little effort to educate people but this is too much.
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>>2845563
And from the same shoot, this is at 2.0, which should be about what the bokeh will look like on Fuji.

Also, I know I suck at portrait editing, I always worked with an editor in the past and I'm kind of lost without her.

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>>2845570

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>>2839728

from the thumbnail you look almost like a cute grill
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>>2845572
Hey I made that!

It was actually pointed out that there is a slight variation between the 200mm and the crop, but it's because I shot it hand-held, and changed lenses, so the camera shifted very slightly.

Second theory, too: That since the telephoto lens is longer than the 28mm lens, the front element is further out, which may have moved the "camera position" forward five or six inches, as well. I've been meaning to re-create the test. Maybe this will be my motivation to do so.

either way, you are correct. Perspective distortion is not connected to focal length.
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>>2845578

Where do you live?
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im thinking of selling my canon 70d to fund a purchase of a x100s

is it a downgrade in any way other than the lenses? i want to take more photos but i hate lugging around a giant dslr and dont really like taking photos on it

i got the 70d for the video but ive heard the x100s has really good video. thoughts?
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>>2845604

why not get an x-m1?

smaller and cheaper with interchangeable lens
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>>2845604
I wouldn't buy into Fuji for video, personally.

What kind of video do you shoot? I prefer an actual camcorder for video use, rather than a DSLR/Mirrorless cam, but my video is pretty run & gun.
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>>2845607
thats a good idea, looks pretty nice.

>>2845612
i would be using it more for photography but id be doing more run and gun stuff, music videos possibly. i have a shoulder rig to go with it too so that will help for sure
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>>2845614
Ah, I misread your post as meaning you weren't into still photography at all.

I'd go with one of Fuji's mirrorless options over the X100S. The new sensor from the X-Pro2 is a huge leap in video quality and the first time Fuji can come close to other brands. I think I might wait for the new sensor to trickle down into affordable bodies if I were you.
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>>2845489
http://a.pomf.cat/wmhzyt.png
>rawtherapee
which you can get from here: http://rawtherapee.com/
>film simulation
either kodak protra 160 x or fuji sensai 100 (for asians)
film pack here get here: https://mega.nz/#!rAZRmahQ
>play with tone curve
eg: http://a.pomf.cat/crkjfo.png
>minor sharpening
>hsv eq (playing with greens)
[h tab] http://a.pomf.cat/ztjdmp.png
[v tab] http://a.pomf.cat/nmekgi.png
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>>2845584
Midwest USA. Why?
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>>2845792
how rawtherapee nowadays? I remember trying it a few years ago and what put me off was it was sooooo fucking slow to process any adjustments
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>>2845798
That is... quite unflattering. Being too close, getting the double chin from being too low, fat lady looking grumpy in the background, skin so pink it's almost purple, blown highlights all over...

Not really a great endorsement for the camera or the software.
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>>2845826
On my 8350 a second to 2 seconds for heavy noise reduction. Your mileage will vary.
>>2845831
K. Do you want a colour chart showing sharpness, dynamic range and sony dicksucking abilities?

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>>2845863
Really really red pink again.

Where did Sony come from? I know for a fact that fuji cameras can do much better, the point was, you're doing your processing poorly.

In fact, in the "look at RawTherapee" photo, it clearly shows that you've purposefully clipped those highlights with your curves (or whatever that tool is)
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>>2845863
Here you go man.

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>>2845863
>>2845903

>ezio masterrace reporting in
Damn, I can't decide. Do I want to go with the lobster or the seasick edit? Calibrate your screens or look at your CMYK data when editing skin tones, both of these look terrible.
And don't listen to strangers on the internet when it comes to skin tones, their screens are just as fucked as yours.
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Just checked my edit on three other screens and it looks a little too green. Might be time to re-calibrate.

here's 80%

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>>2845915
should have linked to
>>2845907
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i dont mind using the lightroom as long as i dont have to show my pics at 100%

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>>2845915
Better, good job
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Heyo, so I just switched from photoninja to silkypix to batch convert to tif because I hate how photoninja fixes highlights. Anybody else here use silkypix to convert to tif?
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>>2846169
Can you not just use lightroom :^)
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>>2845915
why is everything so red? correct for the green in the background rather than the skin
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>>2846172
>don't correct for the subject
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>>2846169
I hate Silkypix with the heat of a thousand suns. Post a comparison of the fine detail at 100% between PN and SP? I hate PN with the heat of about 12 suns, so... y'know.
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>>2845999
Wow that made me hungry. Did I eat today? I don't think I did...
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>>2846173
but the subject it too red too

the green in the background is grossly red
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>>2846187
Go home Moop. You aren't needed here.
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>>2846191
So you made it way too red again...
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>>2846171
image sharpness is still fucked
>>2846183
the difference in sharpness isn't the issue. When PN tried to fix blown out highlights it's not graceful at all. The Sunset mode in silkypix does a good job of blending and guessing the color correctly. It also has a batch convert option which I like
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>>2846193
while adding yellow and not desaturating
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>>2846194
could you do a silkypix tut pls
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new thread: >>2846256
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>>2840514
Look up flash sync speed. You're far over it unless your flash is a top-tier strobe. Try shutter speeds of 1/125th, 1/160th, 1/200th, and 1/250th of a second and tell us if you see the black bar on any of these. I'm not too familiar with Canon flashes to know where EF-20 sits, but if its lower-end expect to only use 1/125th or 1/200th
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>>2841131
Ricoh GR can simulate film grain like Fujifilms
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