Sup /p/. Heres your Pentax K-1 Full Frame in all its glory.

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doesnt look too bad to be honest familia

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oh shit can I get one of the top

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>>2767770

>>2767768
Looks better than 6D, that's for sure.

I hope Pentax releases some modern lenses to go with it, that 20-year-old screw-driven 28-105 isn't going to cut it.

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>>2767806

>Pentax-D FA 28-105mm f/3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
>HD Pentax-D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 ED SDM WR

these two are in rumours but they might be just relabeled Tamrons.
and there are the 24-70, 70-200 and 150-450

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another angle

>>2767816
I laughed. Pentax sure has a knack for making ugly bodies. No matter how hard they try with their product photography it still looks like rubbish.

>>2767814
They sure love their wifi.

>>2767814
How does that dial next to the viewfinder work?

>might be just relabeled Tamrons.
Not necessarily a bad thing.
I have the 15-30 and it's awesome.

>>2767814
>28-105mm f/3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
I doubt people would really want that on their $2.5k FF camera. Come on Pentax, if you're making a slow zoom, it should be a 24-120 at least, you ain't gonna make it on this crowded market with boring-ass lenses.

(I've never understood why Pentax loves cheap weathersealed zooms so much.
I mean, they made like four of them for their crop system, all while neglecting to fix the f/2.8 one)

>>2767836
>How does that dial next to the viewfinder work?

It's a diopter adjustment dial, you set it once and never touch it again.

>>2767801
>AUTO

>>2767897
I think he meant the exp.comp/ISO/HDR/Wi-fi, etc...

IMO this is just a "knob" menu, you set to which one you want to control and then use the top dial. since you already have two dials for speed and aperture.

I like the articulating display on it, it doesn't just tilt, it can rotate vertically. Not sure why you would want that, but

>>2767765
>>2767767
>>2767768
>>2767801
>>2767814

Beautiful. Looks rugged as fuck.
Can't wait to try it out when it hits shelves.

>>2767765
>>2767767
>>2767768
>>2767801
>>2767814
Man what a clunker. I don't see my K-3 ii as a good looker but this takes it to extremes. I guess you are buying for the performance. hope it's alright for the price, i do have my doubts though and lens selection has me worried.

>>2767896
it's a kit-lens
if a kit-lens was perfect, nobody would buy other lenses
and if it was faster, it'd be super heavy and expensive af
and there are 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8

>>2767925
Maybe the IS system can rotate the sensor

>>2767939
I dunno, typically people buy kits so they can shoot with the lens they got, not use it as a paperweight, so you don't bundle a rabal tier lens with a high-end camera. Look at Canon and Nikon's kit lenses for 5D/6D and D610.
I think the only FF camera that's bundled with a lens this slow is A7, but Pentax taking after Sony in the lens department is the last thing we need.

>>2767944
yeah, i see. Maybe the kit is quite decent though.

It would be cool if they sold primes as kits again.
I really liked the mz-3 with the limited 43mm 1.9

>>2767953
I don't think they have a suitable prime currently. The 43mm is sexy, but not sharp enough for 36 MP and doesn't match the body styling, the 50mm is dinosaur tier, and the 55mm is crop only.

>>2767969
wrong, the 55mm covers FF completely without any faults despite being labeled as da

>>2767816
Damn the xbox is a beautiful beast. If the K-1 is the xbox of cameras I might just get one.

Manly ass looking camera, looks fucking good desu.

>>2767814
>HD Pentax-D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 ED SDM WR
I really hope this is true

>>2767765
>>2767767
>>2767768

>No LCD

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>>2768479
It has a top LCD.

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>>2768490

Too small, I wish they would have made it like a Canon and replaced that silly mode button with it.

>>2768492
There's a huge fucking screen on the back showing every necessary information.

>>2768498
are you some sort of mirrorless pleb? all the good DSLRs have nice big top plate LCDs showing all the crucial shooting information and then some. nobody turns on their rear screen for changing settings.

>>2768490
in 2016 a DSLR should have so many knobs and dials that you never have to leave the OVF while changing settings

Pentax started this feature with the pz-1's hyperprogram-automatic-mode

>>2768492
Maybe they're going for a higher pixel density, it's smaller in comparison to their crop bodies, but that could be because they want to have a sharper display on the top where things don't look like the're on a watch or calculator

>>2768498

>Wasting your battery life on the backlit panel

>>2768683

I don't care if it looks like I'm looking at a microwave oven. I can't see a small screen from my waist no matter what the resolution is.

>>2768569

I wish Sigma would get their shit together on the SD1 when it came to that and the Canon IS compatibility issue.

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>>2767814
looks gr8

>>2767801
>Auto
Fucking why

>>2769215
So when some of your philistene friends ask to try it, you just put it in auto and listen how they complain their phone takes better photos.

>>2769229
this gets me every fucking time

>>2769229
Was at a party last week, someone just took the camera and took 20 black frames of our group because I had it in manual for flash exposure. Fixed that, and the dude manages to set the focus point to top left and everything is OOF. fuck me

>>2768569
the rear screen is articulating so stop being such a little pussy and if top lcd is not enough use the fucking back one. the only thing that can make this camera successfull is by being different from canikon. If you dont agree then buy the fucking 5d or d800 and stop shilling.

>>2769292
Don't you just love it when kids pretend playing they are adults?

>>2769295
I'd have loved it if he actually asked if he could use ~1000€ worth of gear instead of just taking it.

>>2767806
Hahah the 6D is a much better looking camera than this fucking monstrosity. Pentax have never made a good looking digital camera, they're gud tho

>>2769312
Eh I don't know, I like the look of my K-5II...

>>2769312
Can't handle the manliness aye bitchboy?

>>2769312
I quite like the look of my K-3

>>2769312
canon bodys look like they are the result of someone with downs having sex with with a fischer price toy.

Pentax looks like a rugged, manly camera.

a new specs rumor list appeared:

>36.4MPix CMOS sensor without low-pass filter
>Pixel Shift Resolution
> PRIME IV image processing engine
>Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm
>Full HD 60p video
>4K time-lapse movie
>14-bit RAW
>DR II
>KAF2 mount (compatible with KAF3, KAF2, KAF, KA and power zoom lenses)
>SAFOX12 AF sensor. 33 AF points of which 22 are cross-type. -3EV sensitivity
>AF assist light
>Viewfinder magnification: 0.70x. 100% field of view
>Natural-Bright-Matte III focusing screen
>3.2 inches, 1,037,000 dot LCD monitor. Flexible tilting
>Built-in GPS and Wi-Fi
>Shutter unit of compact new design. MTBF: 300,000 cycles
>Shutter speed: 30 seconds -1/8,000s. Synchro speed: 1/200 sec
>Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC (UHS-I). Dual card slot
>USB connector (USB 2.0), HDMI connector, microphone jack, headphone jack, X contact
>5-axis camera shake correction. 5 f-stops efficiency
>Electronic level
>Photometry sensor: 86,000 pixel RGB sensor
>ISO range: 100-204,800
>Continuous shooting: 4.4 fps (24x36) / 6.5 fps (APS-C)
>Buffer capacity: 70 JPEG shots, 17 RAW shots (24x36, 4.4 fps)
>D-LI90 battery
>Battery life: 760 pictures
>Body: magnesium alloy and stainless steel. Dust and water resistant. Resistance to low temperature: -10 °C
>Size: 136.5 x 110 x 85.5mm
>Weight: 925g

>>2769375
>Shutter rated to 300 000 cycles
>ISO 100-204 800
>5-axis SR
I was hoping that the rumored 6.5fps was in FF mode, but oh well.

>>2769375
>USB connector (USB 2.0),
Better hope not. Not with 36Mpix files.
K3 is usb3

>>2769384
that is somewhat strange

but keep in mind that the k-1 was supposed to be released much earlier

>>2769375
it is also said that that it will have some jaw dropping new features

>>2769375
im probably gonna wait until their second iteration at least. burst shooting rate too low, and not a great buffer (i just got a k-3 in Dec and it shoots 8.3 fps, 24 frame raw buffer) so i'm happy with what i have, especially considering i like shooting wildlife

>>2769375
Nice specs, but they lack any 'wow' factor.
We waited 10 years for this?

>>2769375
>pickle shift

Compact medium format here we come!

>>2767765
>INB4 everyone trashed Pentax for years and years for not having full frame, and now they will release one, and all Pentax owners will say "Well what I already have is great, so I'm not going to buy that I have no real use for it"

>>2769384
I guess they had problems with USB3 on K-3 like Samsung had on one of its Galaxy Notes (because USB3 cables and connectors fucking suck), and USB-C wasn't ready in time.

>>2769405
AFAIK the Z has 3.0 as well.

>>2769388
>it is also said that that it will have some jaw dropping new features

Mentioned in the FB group by a guy who talked to another guy by phone.
Maybe they meant FF kek

>>2769400
Pentacks fuccboi here, I'll definitely be buying this shit I'm so excited

>>2769400
>buy something you dont need because it exists

>>2769409
Pentax ambassador said so on pentaxforums
he doesn't have one yet but knows the specs
so lets wait and see

>>2769422
>giving a company shit for not offering a thing that you don't actually need.

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>tfw student
>rent expensive af as it is
>probably not gonna get enough sidework to afford the K-1

all these years waitin, and still gonna have to wait a little more

>>2769425
are you so monumentally retarded to assume that every pentax user is the same, or that everyone talking about a pentax camera is the same? it's like im on /b/ or /pol/ with the monumental stupidity here

>>2769428
same boat, only im not a photographer just a hobbyist so im gonna wait until i get a sweet job and they put out their second iteration

>>2769429
You are monumentally retarded to respond to that initial INB4 the way you did. First of all, it was a joke. Second of all, you're implying that I was implying that every single Pentax user is obligated to go get it. Third of all, it was a joke. It's like I'm on /p/ with the egocentrism and "taking everything way too seriously" here...

>>2769428
>>2769431
Day labor is a thing and often you'll get around $100/day

Go work on a few Saturdays insead of nursing a hangover.

>>2769424
Yeah, whoever posted on FB is probably the same guy.
>lets wait and see
Yup

>>2769433
when i have time on the weekends i go out and hike and shoot wildlife. im doing senior design so i dont want to spend my time doing labor to afford a camera that i wont have time to use when i already have a capable camera

>>2769439
Then don't whine about it.

>>2769442
never did

>>2769446
Yeah you did.
>my rent is so high
>I'm a student
>I can't afford camera
>I have to wait.
That's whining.

>>2769405
The USB3 and connector on my K3 work just fine. 2.0 is probably just a typo/copypasta oversight.

>>2769394
??
Its high res but MF? you serious my nigga

>>2770321
Same 36pickles resolution but without the Bayer mesh interpolation. You get RGB values for every pixel in the RAW.
Mostly for studio and product photography, you get much finer textures in color without any residual artifacts.

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>buying anythig pentacks

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>>2770338
>buying anything Sony

>>2767765
Still can't dethrone the a7rii. Sigh, when will they learn.

>>2770395
That throne is in the bathroom

>>2770401
From which it shits.upon canikon.

>>2770407
and still misses

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>>2770407
>muh specsheet
>muh sensor sales
>muh megapickles
jesus christ. literally sonyponys are the worst. And i thought the sony syndrome applies only to /v/ playstation 4 fags. But here on /p/ is all the same. Fucking christ.

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>>2770415
I just hide and r****t every sony shitposts. You should do the same.

>>2768762
You should get your eyes checked if you can't see a screen that size from waist level.

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>>2769312
>Pentax have never made a good looking digital camera
How can you be so wrong?

>>2770475
from the thumbnail i thought this was a fallout item

>>2770475
ok i like pentax but this abomination should be erased from history

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>>2767814
specs of the 15-30mm are out:
>HD coating
>Optical formula: 18 elements (including 3 ED elements and 3 aspherical elements) in 13 groups
>Minimum focusing distance: 0.28m
>Maximum magnification: 0.20x
>Number of aperture blades: 9
>Drip-proof (WR)
>Ultrasonic motor
>Quick Shift focus
>No filter can be mounted
>Super Protect coating on the outer surface of the front element
>Total length: 143.5mm
>Maximum diameter: 98.5mm
>Weight: 1,040g
>RRP: ¥216,000; estimated street price: ¥194,000

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What's been keeping pentacks alive?

>>2770559
Ricoh is a fuckhuge company...like so large that literally any profits or losses that Pentax could manage to make would just be considered rounding error compared to the rest of the company.

>>2770559
1. Ricoh
3. advertisement via Pentax shills only

>>2770559
Pentax does a lot of specialised optics, like the nanolithography machines that make all the fancy chips and sensors.

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>>2767765
Christ that thing looks tall with the grip.

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>>2767767
>Pentax K-1 Full Frame
I really, really dislike the fact that they doubled up functions on the D-pad. That's like shit you get on a compact or entry level APS-C camera, not a FF body. The lack of a top LCD is also pretty bad.

That screen hinge mechanism looks cool as fuck, though, and the VF looks well-sized.

>>2770991
I think it's will still be huge without the grip compared to other full frame DSLRs. Maybe like D800 or something.

>>2770557
>No filter thread
>tfw you'll never see a wide zoom with a drop-in filter mechanism because we want you to become fucking poor by buy proprietary filter kits

>>2770415
>>muh sensor sales
Their sensor division got split into a whole new company and got a huge investment. It's struggling though. It must be hell to be a sony investor. Sony dips and rises worse than bitcoin.

Whatever happened to bitcoin, anybody knows?

>>2770575
I think that is a different company that has nothing to do with the pentax that makes the cameras.

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>>2771012
It actually looks pretty compact, if comparing mirrors is any indication.

>>2771020
I would like to see that to scale. Maybe camerasize can get the pentax k-1 on their site.

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>>2771024
I got it as close to scale as I could, figuring that FF mirrors should be about the same size and lining them up in PS.

Here's a more solid comparison, K1 vs K7 to scale, based on the mounts.

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>>2771026
And for the hell of it, a K7 vs a D700 to scale. The D800 is bigger than the D700.

This K1 looks like it might be the smallest FF DSLR out there.

>>2771026
That's a good method. I thought the D810 was huge from the last time I handled one and it looks small in this image >>2771020. They all look about the same size which is what I would expect.

This >>2771026 also looks like about what I would expect.

>>2771026
>>2771020
What are those contacts at the top of the K-mount?

>>2771031
It's how the camera communicates with the lens.

>>2770557
>>Minimum focusing distance: 0.28m
That's disappointing.

>>2771038
That's almost the length of the lens with the barrel extended. Do you want focus distance inside the lens or what?

>>2771040
The lens is a foot long? I don't think so.

>Do you want focus distance inside the lens or what?
Wide angle lenses should be able to focus on things that are almost touching the front element. One of the main uses for a wide angle lens is close up photography. Most of Pentax's other wide angle lenses can do this.

>>2771040
It says in the specs that the lens is 14 cm long and the minimum focusing distance is 28 cm. Are you blind?

>>2771044
Ah. My DA 16-45 has 28mm minimum focusing distance and it's just a few centimeters in front of the front element when the barrel is extended. It was a guesstimate.

>>2771038
That is the same as the nikon 14-24mm.

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>>2770415
Pssst. Want to hear a secret?

It's actually the Nikonfags. Well, now they're Sonyfags, but they used to be Nikonfags.

It's the same class of enthusiasts who chose the 36MP D800 over the 5Dm3.

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>>2771051
>BRAND N
>BRAND C
>BRAND L

lol

>>2771051
I would love to see the other country's or countries' statistics. Denmark being a rather small country does not say all-too-much I think.

>>2771191
Not to mention, Denmark isn't a huge cultural center for the types of things that require amazing full frame cameras (Sports, Fashion, etc)

Let's see USA, Japan, Italy, France, Germany, etc.

Not that that any of that negates the win in Denmark. Good on Sony for exploiting a market that is well suited to their product.

>>2771051
Wait, is this chart suggesting that in four months (June to October 2015) Sony went from 13% of the market to 41% of the market? That seems really really improbable that 28% of photographers using full frame cameras in Denmark even bought new cameras at all, let alone switched to Sony...

>>2771213
I think it includes all the point-and-shoots and phone cameras.
"I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself" some famous British guy

>>2771227
But it says "Full Frame Market Share" on the top.

>>2771231
And you believe that?

>>2771234
Well, no, haha that's why I posted >>2771213

>>2771213
I guess it is indeed full-frame,
but rather sales numbers than market share

>>2771240
Or, you know, a correction will be put on Sony website with an awkwardly placed link nobody will click on saying "it was all camera sales not just FF. Sorry for the trouble :^)"
Showing off charts and sales on public presentations you have to take them with large grain of salt. It's all part of the marketing.

>>2771247
All Sony camera sales (including phones and the PlayStation(tm)) vs just full frame sales from competing brands

>>2771051
>It's actually the Nikonfags. Well, now they're Sonyfags, but they used to be Nikonfags

I seriously doubt it. Nikon users have no reason to jump ship right now, since they already get Sony sensors AND better performance and image quality out of the same tech than the equivalent Sony body.

I'm pretty sure the current A7 userbase is made up of butthurt Canon users upset that they no longer made the smug right choice. I mean, it might be different in Denmark, sure, but I don't know a single Nikon user who has wanted to switch. Every A7 user I've met had Canon at some point, though.

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the last specs and features will be announced in a few hours

super curious and psyched
what will they be?
will they be revolutionary?

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>>2771332
Don't take that chart seriously, you don't know what it is based on really and I doubt those who made it know it as well.
It's a pretty chart that says "Sony is best" at a marketing gig. Nothing more.
It is utter nonsense and you shouldn't spend any effort into making sense of it.

>>2771337

Oh, I don't. I just thought that guy did.

Also, it's interesting to see both Canon and Nikon users blaming each other for the rise of Sony.

>>2771333
>will they be revolutionary?
I just expect a camera that is up to date and can compete with the current batch of full-frame DSLR. I don't view pentax as a revolutionary brand in the digital age. They are better known for good ergonomics and nice view finders.

For me the greatest achievement would be an up to date camera with a good price point like pentax is known for.

>>2771333
it has a led at the mount for lens changes in the darkness

>>2771206
>Germany
It's the chart to the left of it. It's the same pattern, Nikon users buying Sony.

The point is new Sony users don't pop up out of thin air, they're not a boogeyman from /v/ coming to haunt you, they actually come from somewhere else, in this case Nikonfags.

The Nikonfags stay the same, it's just their camera that's changed.

>>2771333
>no 4k video
even nigon have a 3 minute 4k video.

would have more interesting if it didn't have the crippled KAF2 mount

>>2771451
Pentax in the digital era is the most conservative camera maker, they will mostly concentrate on giving the fullest still photography experience. Their only innovation is the Astrotracer and not crippling their mount to such degree that the older lenses become unusable. I'm looking at you, Canon. Nor they don't make it so cumbersome to use said old lenses with the built-in metering. Maybe using the AF sensor to check focus or even trigger the shutter.
I don't care about 4K video as long as I can use it as a camera with the old A, F and FA lenses as they were meant to be used.

>>2771449
I bet you think you are some special snowflake because you chose canon.

Protip: Just because your camera says Rebel, it doesn't mean you are one

Canonfags are as bad as nikonfags.

>>2771333
pixel shift resolution mode will work handheld
>real 36 mp
>true color
>no interpolations

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ff pentax is official:

>http://us.ricoh-imaging.com/product/k-series/k1/

>>2771537
>1800$

Not bad. I'll definitely consider this especially after time goes by and gets a discount. I really hope it sells well.

>>2771537
>$1800

Not bad. I expected at least $200 more.
Get some of those fancy new Sigmas on it and it's going to be the best performance/price deal on the FF market.

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>>2771545
>>2771550
Well fuck, /p/ hive mind strikes again.

>>2771545
>>2771550

>Not bad.

Think I found Pentax's new motto.

>>2771537
>$1800
Fuck, that is nice.

>5-axis stabilization
>THAT tilty-flippy screen
Well this is making me wet.

>>2771550
>>2771551
>>2771552
It wont be out until April. Do you think other manufacturers will lower the price of their full-frame DSLRs to compete or do you think it's way below their radar?

Also are pentaxfags and pentaxforums having an aneurysm right now?

>>2771537
hngg
if it had a higher burst rate or buffer improved over the k-3 i'd buy, but ill wait for their second iteration, hopefully in a year or two

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I don't think ricoh was ready for this.

>>2771559
Pentax cameras have been cheaper and/or better-specced than competing Canikons for ages. But as usual, Canikon aren't going to be bothered due to Pentax's lack of brand recognition, advertisement, lenses and service.

>>2771559
yeah i bet so.
it has been a year now, and before that maybe 10 years?

first hands-on impressions:

>http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1

>>2771555
The screen hinge looks over-engineered just for the sake of being different, to be honest. The extra motion isn't very useful over what a regular side-hinged screen can do, and you can't reverse it for scratch protection.

>>2771569
it looks fantastic to me, though that may be because im an engineer and it looks like such a nicer and more robust designs that the typical articulating shit.

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>>2771545
>>2771550
>>2771555
The old prototype looked way cooler though.

>>2771572
The old prototype was literally digital guts in a film body.

>>2771572
holy fuck that's ugly as shit. the actual camera looks good. rugged and solid. that looks like a toy for retarded kids to play with

>>2771571
I'm not sure it's more robust. So many moving parts and places for dirt to get into.

>>2771572
Is that a top LCD built into a control dial?

The absolute madmen

>>2771576
definitely more robust. you could hold your camera by the screen and not have any problems judging by the photos, which couldnt be said about a camera with an articulating screen. i thought about dust/water when i originally saw the mockups but figured pentax has such a history of wr gear that they have everything hamered out

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>>2771551
>>2771552
Now with 35.9x24.0% more stale memes.

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that lcd is pretty sweet though

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>>2771607
I like the LEDs. They are only useful when shooting in the dark but they are cool as hell.

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>>2771607
Stupidest fucking idea ever.
If this isn't a troll....

WTF would anybody waste time on an articulated screen, all that weight and all that shit to get broken and gunged up, when simply adding a Flucard or building in wifi enables you to use ANY FUCKING TABLET/PHONE to control and view through the camera?

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>>2771607
Will you accept her embrace, /p/?

>>2771607
I hope there's a version without it... looks like it's begging to break

>>2771639
>now you hold two devices
>wireless transmission latency
nah

>>2771607
What the... what's the point of this? Just a couple of hinges would allow for all the articulation this over complicated mechanism does. That exposed ribbon wire scares me.

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>>2771643
>looks like it's begging to break
do you think this looks more rugged or less liable to break?

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>>2771647
Not who you are replying to but yes. Simpler mechanism are less likely to break.

>>2771649
no. some cheap plastic hinge is far less rugged and reliable than pentax's design. faulty attempt to apply occam's razor

>>2771651
and remember they had an articulating screen in the ks-2, so they have a performance an design benchmark in house to base their design choices on, and they still went with this new method.

>>2771651
That's not plastic. Thats metal you dunce. Have you ever held that camera?

>>2771653
its still far thinner than pentax's connectors, and the k-1 looks like it allows for greater viewing angles. plus it just looks way cooler

>100% frame coverage
>.7x magnification
underwhelming OVF much?

>>2771691

Uh, no. I can't think of any 100% FF OVFs in that price range.

>>2771691
Seems about par for the course to me, a quick google says that it's the same as the D600 and D800.

I find my D610's VF to be quite nice, even with glasses, and it's easy to focus fast MF lenses though, so the Pentax should be fine. (And I know what a good VF is like, as I've owned a D3S and currently have a Hasselblad with a prism finder.)

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>>2771698
The D610 has exactly the same VF specs (100% @ .7x) and cost about the same at launch.

I wonder what the K1's eyepoint is. The D610 is actually noticeably nicer to shoot with than the D800 because it has a longer eyepoint distance, especially for glasses wearers.

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>>2771698
I remember speculation towards a similar OVF to the Sony A900 with how big of a hump the K-1 has. But .7x effective is pretty much the lowest for a FF DSLR

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>>2771703
You can just barely see that there's a second dial under the BKT/HDR/etc dial, looks like that sticky out thing is how you manipulate it. My guess is that it'd be the advance mode dial, Nikon does it a similar way but puts it under the far left dial, as seen here. (Mode dial on consumer bodies, BKT/metering/flash buttons on pro bodies.)

The dial on the right is a good question. I'd think it was just a normal control wheel, but it's already got two in the normal places. Maybe it's just a third wheel that you can program to be whatever you want, like EV, ISO, etc. Pretty cool idea if so, actually.

>>2771703
>>2771714
Oh, actually now that I look at it, I don't see a video mode button or switch anywhere else on the K1, and in >>2771333 you can see there's a "still camera" type icon on that lower ring. I bet that switches between photo and video modes, or maybe OVF and live view.

>>2771716
Good catch.

>>2771716
live view button is next to the metering/delete photo button, where the button for viewing your photos was on the k-3

>>2771722
I don't see it. Circle it in the image you are referring to.

>>2771729
furthest left button on the back in this image. >>2771607 says LV

The so-i-can-see-what-im-doing-in-the-dark lights are a great idea... but lighting every button cluster would be so much better.
I'd have been seriously tempted to make the red dot on the body mount a light shining out instead of having it overhead shining down.

>>2771722
Oh yeah, I didn't notice it there at first.

Speaking of "what is this thing," I see two little red "windows," one at the bottom of the front of the grip, and one about where your thumb would be when shooting. Looks like the K7 had the front one as well. What are they for?

>>2771733
for IR remote

>>2771730
>says LV
Makes sense.

>>2771731
I like the one on the front anyway. Not too sure where they are going with having lights underneath the LCD panel.

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>>2771703
>>2771714
Just noticed that DPR put up their preview, and it answers the question about the dial on the right:

>Still shooters are likely to appreciate the camera's Smart Function system, which adds a third command dial to the top right corner of the camera and a further control to define its function. The three dials give direct control over three of the camera's parameters with the ability to customize one of them without going anywhere near a menu.

So basically, the middle dial (HDR/BKT/ISO/etc) selects which parameter the right dial controls. Pretty cool idea, actually.

The article also has the best all-around pics I've seen so far, and with dimensions. I think I can make out a "movie camera" icon on that ring we were talking about, so it looks like the still/video mode selector theory was right.

>>2771735
Oh, that makes sense. They're much smaller and are tinted/textured to blend in better on my Nikons, so I wasn't recognizing them as the same thing.

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>>2771053
>>2771051
>BRAND L
Leica? And what's with the abnormal jump to 3% share in November?

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>>2771743
>The article also has the best all-around pics I've seen so far,
Why is it that we have to go to a third party website for photos of this product that actually show it in any detail? Isn't Pentax a photography company? Why isn't that website covered in 7000px macro photos of this camera?

>>2771745
Probably a new product release. That's my theory about those numbers in general, Sony came out with new cameras around that time and so people were going out and buying them, while Nikon and Canon didn't have anything new to drive sales at the time.

>>2771745
3% isn't abnormal at all. Sony's percentages are far more drastic.

I'm guessing the Leica jump is the SL, and the Sony jump is the A7Rii.

If I sold my K-3 and all my crop lenses, I could afford the K-1 body easily. Of course, then the only lens I'd have would be the 100/2.8 D FA macro, since I already have that.

Should I do it?

>>2771773
If you've got room in the budget to pick up at least one more lens, then sure, why not? Pentax will probably follow the other manufacturers' lead in pushing FF and neglecting their crop lines, so you'll basically be forced to go FF if you want to upgrade bodies down the line anyway.

>>2770470

I can watch a TV from thirty feet away, it doesn't mean I want to do it unless the screen is 20 feet wide.

The point of such an LCD is to provide you with the information you need quickly and accurately.
If I have to spend more than a fraction of a second of a second looking at the screen, then I might as well just use the back panel.

>>2769392
Pentax shooter here.
they made an affordable ff DSLR with good modern specs, a Sony sensor, and no bullshit. that's exactly what we wanted and they delivered. no one cares if this camera "converts" you or not, most of us have a closet full of AF ff Pentax glass that we can finally use natively.

>>2771773
>If I sold my K-3 and all my crop lenses

That's a big if now that they announced a sub-$2000 ff body.

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>getting cucked from sonys good sensors

pentaxfags

>>2767931

The original MZ-D was actually pretty sexy, I wish they would have kept the design

>>2771800
Well assuming they deliver the K-1 in April as promised, it seems like a good plan. It would be better to wait for a sale or for used bodies to show up on the market, but all I'm saying is that the price of this thing isn't too out of reach. I was worried it would be over $2000.

>>2771802

I'm sure Canon users really got cucked by Panasonic when they bought the 1D too.

>>2771802
Everyone gets cucked by Sony at some point. Even Nikon gets cucked by Sony right now.

Hell Even Sony gets cucked by Sony.
Remember when the A99 owners were forced to sit by and get cuckolded while Nikon ran away with the 36 MP sensor?

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lol

>>2771739
>I like the one on the front anyway. Not too sure where they are going with having lights underneath the LCD panel.

So you can see the back buttons in the dark.

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>>2771731
The overhead light seems to work pretty well.

>>2771863
>Stopped down
Does that mean the lenses won't have the advertised F number when you equip them into Full Frame?

>>2771915
Most likely, they'll vignette heavily when wide-open. I know that's the case if you put some DX Nikon lenses on FX bodies. (IIRC the 35 1.8 is one of them)

I'll bet that some will provide full coverage when focused close but vignette at infinity, too.

>>2771915
They're crop lenses. You are lucky that they cover full frame when stopped down.

>>2771915
It means vignetting (dark frame corners) when wide open

>>2771802
Lmao wasn't expecting to see these two on /p/

>>2771909
tfw my thinkpad has a new buddy

>>2771909
That is really nice actually.

>>2771551
>Hivemind
>Posted 10 minutes apart

>>2771583
>which couldnt be said about a camera with an articulating screen
Because you would never hold your camera by the screen...

You pentax fags are really clutching at straws in a desperate attempt to make your camera sound superior.

>>2771786
Why do you always shoot from the waist though?

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>>2772060
>>2772061
Smaller but heavier.

When will this camera be on display at a camera shop? Do I have to wait until april?

I really want to get my hands on this thing for research purposes.

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>>2772058

I don't, that's just where I put my hands when I'm not looking through the view finder.

>>2772054
I did not refresh to see the previous post because I was reading the press release and dpreview article.

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>>2772064
>dat LED behind the screen

PIMP MY FULL FRAME

Silver limited edition with matching lens when?

>>2772078
Hopefully never

>>2772079
Why do you hate nice things?

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>>2771938
Yeah I still remember when here all those delusional Pentaxfags were telling everyone all those lenses were lolfool fraem, especially the overpriced supposedly ultrawide primes, which were already crap on APS-C, that you can only use in crop mode on a 35mm sensor, and the 55mm, and now that
>They're crop lenses. You are lucky that they cover full frame when stopped down :DDD

>>2772218
The DA* 55mm covers full frame, senpai
Most of the higher level DA lenses do. And there are those awesome FA lenses and the new D-FA series.

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>>2772224
You're late friendo, we already know this

>>2772225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQjGsTx4214
How am I this late? How did i miss it? Fucking Hell. Never again am i going to go out taking photos when i should be googling unreleased cameras. Fuck. I won't make that mistake again.

>>2772229
Grow up cunt

>>2772239
Ok

>>2772222
>>2771863
also, have fun with all that junk lol

>>2772243
Yes, I am having fun with them, thank you. They make awesome photos too and cost half of the Canikon price, 1/10th of Sony equivalents :)

>>2772250
Yeah we get that you're part of a cult like Christfags, Islamfags, Jewfags etc., it's nothing new.

Soon everyone will think i'm just shooting my Penaxs (P50 film and K7 digital) because it's the hot new bandwagon to jump on.

>>2772263
Why do you worry about what people think? The only thing that matters is you having fun.

>>2772263
So what you're saying is, you shot Pentax before it was cool... and you're worried about people's perception of you.

>>2772269
Pentax was always cool.

Pentax need to stay untergrund, go back into shadows.

Mainstream brands don't deserve shills.

Will they get recognized even by no-photogear people now?

>>2772229
Just read the thread before posting. At least skim it. I think you can manage that seeing as everyone else can.

>>2772218
For a long time it was known that the wide-angles couldn't cover a full-frame. Some reports said that the widest lens that covered full-frame was the 40mm. Possibly the 35mm too. I think theses lenses might cover full-frame but ricoh might be taking into account how well it covers full-frame. Maybe they have too much vignetting and aberrations in the corners unless stopped down.

I think they should have just left these lenses alone. They were never advertised as full-frame. Imagine someone sees that Ricoh advertises these lenses as compatible with K-1 only to be disappointed. They should just advertise them as crop-mode compatible. If anyone wants to venture to full-frame mode that is solely on them.

>>2767944
>>2770415
>>2771051

The point it sounds like the A7r sensor being used, it's just a D800 for Pentax users.

Meaning it's just outdated and bringing nothing new to the market other than a Pentax label on the camera.

>>2772606
How is it outdated?

Nikon > Pentax > Canon - confirmed?

>>2769384
>he transfers files from his camera
>he doesn't just remove the SD card and put it in his docked card reader connected over SATAIII

>>2772060
finally, a full frame that you don't look like a total faggot carrying it around

>>2772693
Better transfer rates direct from camera.
I've tried numerous USB3 readers and ultimately I find it better to pull direct from the camera.
Every card reader I have ever used - and there have been a few, some supposedly good ones - do this thing where the data transfer speed is highly variable, and almost always has long periods of no activity where the transfer just pauses for a while. The camera never does this, produces a consistent (iirc) 20-25MB/s and ultimately gets the files from body to drive faster and more conveniently.

Also, a seemingly trivial thing: Less minor long-term damage to card, contacts and card door.
These cards have ZERO fingerprints on their contacts, and therefore none on the body's contacts.
InB4 you say thats ridiculous. In my experience it's better to have the rubber-hinged USB cover break off through thousands of opening and closings (it's a rubber plug and doesn't need the hinge anyway) , rather than in any way damage the card reader door, slot or contacts.

Becasue USB2 I used to take my K5's card out, but after using two of them for years I now prefer to even use the USB2 on the k5 than bother taking the card out.
The k3's USB3 is a no brainer.
In both cases it's quicker and far less dicking around.

>>2772646
The D800 went on sale in March 2012.

Let that sink in for a bit. The camera Pentax users are so happy about they finally have - they could have the same thing in 2012 if they didn't care it had a Nikon label on it.

Apart from having a Pentax mount, how does this K-1 uniquely differentiate itself from a camera that came out 4 years ago? What does it bring to the table?

Happy to eat my words, but I don't see anything to get excited about.

>>2772712
So the D800 and D810 are outdated?

>>2772712
And Nikon still charge $1000 more for the the same sensor 4 years on.

The only new sensor in this segment since then is the 7RII's 42MP BSI, which you can forget about getting it in a package under 3k.

Camera industry as a whole have been slowing down and not overly exciting these days.

>>2772722
>>2772723

The D800 and D810 have different sensors.

Only 10+ years behind everyone else.

Oh but it's got LEDs so yay I guess.

>>2772724
How are they different?

>>2772726

They aren't the same.

>>2772727
They seem the same to me. It's sony's 36.x sensor that is in their A7R, the d800, d810, and now the K-1. You say they aren't the same, I would like to know how you arrived at that conclusion.

>>2772729

The D810 has noticeably worse high iso performance, but more room in the highlights.

>>2772730
That can be due to Nikon's own customization to the chip or from Sony's side.

The same chip can under go multiple revisions.

>>2772730
Different performance does not mean different sensors. Sony gets worse performance out of it's own sensors than any other camera maker with the same sensor.

I thought the whole point you were making was that the K-1 will have the same sensor. If it's not the same sensor how are they the same camera other than being full-frame dslrs?

>>2772733

It doesn't NOT mean it either.

I'm not that making a whole point, either. just jumpin' in this thread with some thots.

>>2772739
Manufacturers rarely disclose the sensor when it's from another manufacturers. When the sensors have identical or nearly identical specs and perform almost the same it is more like to assume that they are the same sensor than to assume that they are not.

Didn't you say the K-1 is outdated?

>>2772741

Nah, that was someone else.

>>2772741
if you look at the spec, the k-1 is outdated.
smaller af area, no 4k, slower burst, smaller buffer, bargain bin last gen sensor.

>>2772766
>if you look at the spec
Just fuck off already, you gearfags are a broken record

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>>2768490
Pentax built such a complex hinge system for the back-LCD, but in the end it's still incapable of going into Selfie mode... doh.

They should have just made it like the GH4, that thing really has the perfect back LCD, and with touch screen too.

>>2772766
nice desu ne.

Which Sony FF mirrorless and lenses do you recommend I buy instead?

>>2771904
I meant in terms of all the places to put it, why put it somewhere that is covered up during normal operation. This way, you have to do two things: pull out the rear LCD and then press the light button.

>>2773364
You're mad is showing my friend.

>>2773375
Clearly it is.
Seriously though.

What FF Sony Mirrorless camera do you recommend for me? I want an aperture ring and shutter speed dial if possible.

>>2772730
>The D810 has noticeably worse high iso performance

I dunno, according to dxo, they're within 0.1 stop of each other, which is absolutely negligible.

>>2767765
>Pentax Kek-1
FTFY

>>2773373
Anywhere else they could put it on the rear would have the lights pointing outwards and blinding you if you turn them on.
There would have to be bits sticking out all over the place for the lights to be able to actually shine onto the camera and not into your face.

Having it behind the screen is a clever solution, because there is no chance of shining lights into your eyes and ruining your nightvision. It also lets the light shine perfectly onto the back of the camera, and it's not like pulling the LCD out and pressing the light is such a difficult task.

>>2773407
a7r ii + 35mm 1.4

>>2773542
That's not a Sony lens. Nor a FF one.
You are making me believe Sony has no lens for the alpha mirrorless line.

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>>2773656
> 35mm 1.4
>That's not a Sony lens. Nor a FF one.

wat

>>2773659
>Buy mirrorless, they said. It will be small, they said.
You Sony fanboys make me laugh, you must be having aspergers for wanting that asshuge shit.

>>2773674
Mmmm i love all this sony jealousy. Mmmmm~ keep going~ Ahhhh~

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>>2773695
Jealous of what? A lens that you don't own? My Fuji 23 f/1.4 is about half that size.

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>>2773360
Probably would have been cheaper to just reuse the mechanism from the K-S2

>>2773674
Still smaller than a 35/1.4 on a DSLR, and with IS to boot. Can your Canikon do that? No? Thought so.

>>2773704
What a shitty photo. That's some leica tier glass you got there.