>The ecology of the earth is collapsing >Species are going

>>17482
You could start sabotaging stuff you don't like or something.

>>17482

Life will find a way, except yours hopefully

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>>17483

I was spraypainting STOP! YOU'RE KILLING ME on industrial sites for a long time and etchng it into equipment with Acid but unfortunately not enough people have read The Sheep Look Up for that to pan out

>>17482
what if hell was more crowded?

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>>17482
There's another book called End Game. It's so pensivily realistic about our doom and our manufactured indifference about said doom brought about by poisonous civilization, that it made me want to kill myself too.

Infact I gave End Game to two friends who also quickly become depressed about our worldly/personal situations. One friend like myself just blocked it out... we still realize how fucked things are and we're still red pilled, we just choose not to acknowledge it and go about our lives the best we can. The other friend dropped off with his gf and became a traveling organic farmer or something wholesome like that.

Hope that helps with your outlooks. Use what horrible thing you know as a tool to living better for the time you have here. Now you know what to avoid and have a better idea on how to strive for happiness in your personal life.

Oy very goyim stay in your towns you can't eat those fish or cut that tree those are on my 2000 acre estate

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>>17487

Sounds good, if it's anything like TFLU I'll probably like it. Who wrote it?

>>17482
Fucked up shit always brings itself back into balance. You can help it, ignore it or kys. It doesn't care about you in any case.

>>17482
You need some Jordan Peterson in your life. All of you do.

>>17490
What could possibly make people less stupid or get rid of democracy when the majority are content

>>17490

I feel better sometimes, when I'm with friends and distracted r listening to folk music or something else I enjoy but like it's hard to forget the great barrier leaf collapsing or the Carbon load in the atmosphere being the highest ever despite the fun


Also, everyone in this thread (Fuck this board) should read this essay by Best living writer right now, Paul Kingsnorth

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/18/the-new-lie-of-the-land-what-future-for-environmentalism-in-the-age-of-trump

>>17482
You forgot
>not packing out what you packed in

>burning all the downed wood in ecologically sensitive areas

>not burying your feces

>using plastic baby wipes and burying them

>off-roading and destroying biological soil crusts

>leaving fishing tackle everywhere

The things a lot of people here do

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This is what i prep for

>>17493
You wouldn't even know about things collapsing were it not for the technologies that lead to collapse. Take a step back to a critical distance with a wider perspective or live like an armadillo and only see the things right in front of you which you have some measure of control over.

>>17489
Derrick Jenson.

You won't be able to put it down. My friends and I could not.

>>17493
You must be a joy to be around

>>17482
Cheer up.

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>>17482
Nature has pulled through astroid strikes, mass volcano erruptions causing sudden eternal winters, life will go on. Even if the whole earth is througly caked in radioactive fallout there will still be life. Different and a lot less, but major events cause a new Gene pool to lead to more diversity. From a personal standpoint we're fucked. A simple major power outage would send major cities into ape mode. A disease, or if old faithful esplodes etc could really change life. But I don't think we're going to be extinct. Especially when some creeps on this board are replying from diy septic tank bunkers with 3 years of supplies.

>>17500
the problem with your thesis is that the creeps who are relying on old cold war bunkers with MREs are the ones who will recolonize after it's over

>>17501
I'll recolon you mum.

>>17485
you like that book huh

Look, if you want to save species, you have to grow plants that are wild in nature in your yard. The wild species will then find your yard. Just make sure you plant the right plants, so you don't get pests.

I re-introduced grasshoppers to my yard.

>>17504
>I re-introduced grasshoppers to my yard.
Nice work anon!

>>17483
Jee I wonder (((who))) could be behind this post.

>>17482
Is this a good read? Can /out/ recommend me some good books to getting started?

>>17507
Inb4 bible

>>971577
Whoa, it's almost like the states are responsible for all that shit.

>>17507

The Sheep Look Up, The Wake by Paul Kingsnorth, Blood Meridian, and The Water Knife by paolo bacigalupi are all essential /out/core and are good reads. The Wake especially because the whole book is written in some weird shadow tounge of olde English

>>17482
Buy your own plot of land, buy a bunch of guns, and essentially become the ruler of your own little kingdom.

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Will shit really hit the fan anons?

Or are we just hoping that it will because we want to start it fresh?

Will we have to just come to terms eventually that shit will never hit the fan hard enough to bring down our owners?

Does preparing for it make sense? Should I buy a cheap 4x4 and fence off some land?

Should I just stay in the city and try to improve my social position?

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>>17504

>>17512
it would take a pretty fucking cataclysmic event to cause a collapse of global civilization. I'm not sure if even a 4C global temp increase would cause it. It's basically a self-regulating meta-organism at this point (or maybe a tumor).

Instead of looking at prepping from the standpoint of being prepared for the end-times, look at it more from the standpoint of just being prepared for anything that the world can realistically throw at you.

Where to get free pdf of ops pic

>>17515

>free

nigger

>>17515
It's on TPB.

>>17516
Sharing is caring fag, I download a load of shit for free and if I like content I'm trying to support author of the work. Directly not through some big ass greedy publishers. Sadly is not possible in some cases, in which I just buy original work.

The world needs an IRL trainite movement so bad. Especially because we basically got president prex

>>17518
Of course, in the book Train dies, the Trainites lose and America burns to the ground.

>>17519

Everyone dies so it's all good

>>17519

Dude spoilers

>>17487

Good book. As an antidote, would suggest reading the Ecomodernist Manifesto and Ecoausterity and the Collapse-porn Addicts.

>>17522

Looks interesting, but I'm going into it disagreeing already because Paul Kingsnorth is one of the great intellectuals of our age and isn't simply "Collapse porn" like that book implies


What are some other /out/core books? So far I can think of:


>The Sheep Look Up
>Blood Meridian
>On the Road
>The Wake
>Lord of The Rings
>The Great God Pan

>>17484
/thread

>>17523
The Clan of the Cave bear series

>>17498
>hurr durr just live in the pleasure dome all day don't care about your future

>>17504
>implying pests aren't part of the native fauna

>>17482
Species have been going extinct every day since the first fucking day.

>>17525
>The Clan of the Cave bear series

the first one is good. the rest are all female shlick-fiction

>>17487
>Hope that helps with your outlooks. Use what horrible thing you know as a tool to living better for the time you have here. Now you know what to avoid and have a better idea on how to strive for happiness in your personal life.

Smuggle lots of explosives into Yellowstone and try to set off the volcano

Civilization will be kill in a matter of years after this

>>17529
>the rest are all female shlick-fiction
imokwiththis.jpeg

>>17531

I don't think it works like that

>>17523
Roadside picnic, aka STALKER, the book

>>17485
So read the Monkey Wrench Gang. I thought all of you commie crust-punks here would have already.

>>17510
Blood Meridian taught me everything I need to know about life. That book changed me, maybe not for the better, but it changed me, woke up a primal streak that I can't put back.

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>>17482

Sit back, take a deep breath and start thinking of the logistics of human survival. Globally humanity is on track for a major population correction by 2100 at the latest.

Mine-able phosphorus deposits are all but exhausted meaning that crops will not be able to be supplemented.

As the population grows so does the demand for meat which is entirely unsustainable, it puts even greater strain on a system that is already breaking down.

As the foolish first world attempts to drag the third world forward for a fleeting sense of superiority and self righteousness they are only signing off on the death of most of humanity.

Ocean acidification and over fishing will ensure that the most depended on stocks of fish go extinct as they are already too over exploited and facing environmental changes they cannot adapt to.

The natural resources first world countries use and exploit do not scale to even the current population. There is simply not enough to go around and bring humanity up without destroying it in the process.

Get fit, get self sufficient, only have children if you are comfortable with knowing that in a few generations they will likely suffer immeasurably and perish like the dogs humans are.

Enjoy a front row seat to the end of society. If you are so inclined you can also contribute. Waste resources, spread disinformation, encourage excess.

There is no escaping the balance that nature will find again when man is brought to his knees and potentially added to the many species gone forever.

The universe won't bat an eye and neither should you.

>>17537
Pretty much this.

Here take a 25 year old George Carlin that will probably annoy you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4

>>17493
Great article, thanks for sharing. Exactly how environmentalism needs to develop. I was raised to love the outdoors. Yet most my family has bought into the anti-enviromentalism agenda for many of the exact reasons he lists. I'm definitely going to share this with them.

>>17539
I mean, there are a couple of good points there about the hypocrisy of your average "enlightened" liberal environmentalist, but what else did you expect from an urbanite stand up comedian?

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>>17482
>The ecology of the earth is collapsing
Not really, just the ability of some living things to thrive under some conditions

>Species are going extinct every day
And have been for millions of years

>All beautiful traditional cultures of the world are being erased by Corporate "Strip mall culture" that turns human into porn consuming designer jeans wearing mouths with a wallet attached
This is a problem, but leave the city and you still see plenty of culture. If I drive 100 miles north I will find people that speak Acadian or eskimo and eat walrus fat, if I drive 100 miles south, I will see New Englanders ruining the English language and eating whatever yanks eat, 100 miles west are poutine eating French speaking Québécois, 100 miles east you find Scots Gaelic speakers eating flipper pie, etc. All that cultural diversity in just on part of one newer country.

>Technlogy that was supposed to make life better has ruined our earth and alienated our citizens
How? It gas drastically extended our lifespans and made me able to have instant conversations with people throughout the world.

>The water is unfit to drink
Not where I live

>The air is unfit to breathe
Not where I live

>Even going /out/ is not an option because civilization will eventually find you
How so? They put a pipeline deep through the woods here but that just makes a nice clear cut for snowmobiling, running a trap line, spot and stalk hunting, etc.

Stop being a faggot

>>17492
>get rid of democracy

wat.

Have you seen the alternatives?

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>>17482
>even out is not an option because civilization will find you

Honestly this bugs me the most. Leave for a few days, even after letting everyone know you'll be gone, and everyone loses their goddamn minds. I got a call from work that I found after I got back where they tried to call me in on a day I can't work even in a normal schedule

>Hey Anon can you come in today?
15 minutes later
>Hey Anon just because you're camping doesn't mean you have an excuse to ignore your phone and not call back.

Not to mention that in my country many of the ways you'd actually want to live while /out/ (at least in the start) on your own land are illegal thanks to asinine zoning laws. Hell I can't even live in a state of the art RV but a run down piece of shit trailer is fine. The idea that I can be told on my own land what is and isn't acceptable to live in is insane. Motherfucker if I want to live in a cardboard box that oughta be my goddamn right as an American as long as I don't have dependents that are suffering and I'm getting by ok.

>>17485
Dirty hippie

itt. edge sharper than most /out/ knives

>>17545

>yeah fuckin hippie why doesn't he let corprate power fuck him like a good little cuck?

>>17547
what is the device you used to make this comment?

on what infrastructure is the network which you communicated over built on?

what food did you put into your body today?

what is the primary source of power in your home?

do you have a home? how was it built?


on every conceivable plane of existence, kill yourself.

>>17482
Bro, you need to relax. Western nations are not this bad. However, they are on a course to be this bad if we allow mass immigration and globalism to continue. You need to push for a nationalist closed bored system. Protecting the environment is part of the nationalist dream as well.

Western nations have a stable birthrate. A return to traditionalism and a focus on renewables and environmental protection will lead to paradise.

Just gotta keep those unwashed hordes out senpai. If you want a future that is.

>>17548
>what food did you put into your body today?
>do you have a home? how was it built?

There isn't any fucking land or rights if I did own it.
At least electricity and electronics are a voluntary exchange for something you don't need

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Another entry on good /out/ books I humbly present pic related

>Main Character is essentially an /r9k/ poster who becomes an /out/doorsman

>All the characters are written realistically and like real life college kids

>Society collapses in a really realistic way (IE slowly, like how the Roman empire did)

>Has cool sf stuff like scientists trying to slow global commerce with mutated Bamboo that grows fast as shit chocking the highways and genetically engineered diseases

1) The big stuff that we care about - trees, birds, fishes, mammals, fucking lizards - don't matter from a non-human, Mother Gaia perspective. Bacterial life is what matters, and it doesn't give a fuck about us.
2) Things are getting better. Maybe not in the US/India/other African countries, but the civilized world, hell even China, increasingly care about ecology.
3) Society is better too 99% of the issues we have now we inherited from previous generations, and we're fixing them, more people now go "money is not the answer, conspicuous consumption is retarded" than ever before.

The real question is, how to avoid being killed by humans when camping.

>>17482
I'm planning to build my own self sufficient home with solar panels and hydroponics somewhere far away from civilization.

Further down the line I want to establish a small colony in order to be defended against raiders.

Shit will be cash

>>17549
spotted the trumptard

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>>17549

>Protecting the environment is part of the nationalist dream as well.

Hahahahahahaha

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

You're kidding right? No nationalist in history has given a fuck about the environment. Enjoy your witch hunts of useful and contributing foreign workers who allow you to survive, whilst your environment crumbles because your nationalist elected officials jacked off coal and fracking companies until the walls are covered in semen.

>>17555
>No nationalist in history has given a fuck about the environment.
I shouldn't even have to tell you Hitler was a nationalist who cared deeply about the environment within German borders and proposed occupants.

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>>17486
....I done goofed.

>>17523

True, the writing style is likely to put off Paul Kingsnorth acolytes. I thoroughly enjoyed it though. It provides a thorough rebuttal of the doom and gloom, buy local, capitalism is evil, degrowthist ideology of the current environmental movement.

The one thing I hate about this place is the amount if nature fetishism

You like and appreciate nature while also not cursing the the entire industrialized world that allows you to actually whine on this shitty website

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>>17555
>No nationalist in history has given a fuck about the environment.

Nigga, you dumb.

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Just gonna post this here:

>THE TIME HAS COME TO RETHINK WILDERNESS.
>This will seem a heretical claim to many environmentalists, since the idea of wilderness has for decades been a fundamental tenet -- indeed, a passion -- of the environmental movement, especially in the United States. For many Americans wilderness stands as the last remaining place where civilization, that all too human disease, has not fully infected the earth. It is an island in the polluted sea of urban-industrial modernity, the one place we can turn for escape from our own too-muchness. Seen in this way, wilderness presents itself as the best antidote to our human selves, a refuge we must somehow recover if we hope to save the planet. As Henry David Thoreau once famously declared, "In Wildness is the preservation of the World."

>But is it? The more one knows of its peculiar history, the more one realizes that wilderness is not quite what it seems. Far from being the one place on earth that stands apart from humanity, it is quite profoundly a human creation -- indeed, the creation of very particular human cultures at very particular moments in human history. It is not a pristine sanctuary where the last remnant of an untouched, endangered, but still transcendent nature can for at least a little while longer be encountered without the contaminating taint of civilization. Instead, it's a product of that civilization, and could hardly be contaminated by the very stuff of which it is made.

>http://www.history.vt.edu/Barrow/Hist2104/readings/cronontrouble.html

>>17528
Yeah no fucking duh. The rate of extinction is the concerning part though. The last thousand years of the fossil record will look like a sixth great extinction to the future archaeologist

>>17546

Refute what they are saying instead of calling people chlorophyll addicts