Esee 5 or Esee 6 or??? Looking for a new knife for end all be

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>>959390
Avoid memes. Go for a classic shape that will be good at classic knife work. No serrated edges because then you can't sharpen the damn thing again. No sharp spine since you want to be albe to press your thump against it.
Full tang for strenght.

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>>959390

ESEE 3HM if anything.

Resist the urge to get large knives - they're far less useful, than a more reasonably sized blade.

Esee are indeed very good quality, but you want a knife that's somwhere between 3 inches, and 4.5 inches tops - anything more is going to be too unwieldy.

Some options to consider:

Skookum bush tool
LT Wright genesis
LT Wright Lagom
Esee 3HM (modified handle)
Esee RB3
Helle Temagami
Numerous woodlore variants like this one here: http://www.tlim.net/602.php

Some general specs:

4'' straight back, drop point, or spear point blade (including kephart).
1/8'' thick
high carbon steel (A2, O1, 3V, 1.2235, 52100, 5160, 1095 or similar)
Simple, comfortable handle with no guard, and no finger grooves, or other "pseudo-ergonomic" features.

If you are comfortable with it, you can go as low as a 3'' blade, and 3/32'' thick.

The only caveat here is that for camping, you might want a 4-5'' blade for slicing food, but you can just get a $10 mora, or an appropriately-sized Opinel for that.

Pic related (2nd from the left) is the general style of knife you want. I could also recomment the jessmuk (great knife), but only if you don't mind spending $235+ (the other options I mentioned will run you anywhere from around 80 bucks, to about 170).

>>959412
depends on what you mean by "sharp spine".

If you mean double edged, then heck no - a single edge is what you want. But what is generally known as a "sharpened spine" is more like an ice skate, and you want that to strike a ferro rod, or to clear bark, etc.

And pressing your thumb on it isn't a problem, but you should avoid swedges, since that's where you would press with your other thumb sometimes.

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BK2 master race. Master of nothing but serviceable for all tasks.

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>>959390
get one of the smaller offerings, like the Esee 3 or 4

t.Esee 6 owner

>>959390
Read up on your local knife laws. In my state 5.5 inches is max carryable. Sure no one is gonna bother you in the woods with your 6 inch blade, but what if you were taking a nap at a rest stop and had to stab a nigger trying to steal your icechest? It's better to just be legal.

>>959427
>equally worthless for all tasks

Let me know when you are ready to drop the meme, and get a useful knife.

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>>959390
Bushcraft survival stuff is all a meme used to sell trash to dumb kids.

Buy a good knife for hunting; helle and bark river are good. Only use them for processing game, nothing else. This knife needs to be kept scary sharp all the time so you can process an animal quickly without trouble. Needs to have a round spine to be able to "unzip" the belly to get guts out, needs a belly of some kind to skin properly, must have a good slicing geometry; flat grind with secondary bevel of small size, and a handle with some kind of guard (pic related) so it doesnt slide your hand onto the blade when wet. For whatever wood related stuff (feathersticking, carving, cutting etc) use a mora or an equivalent. Blade geometery should be either a scandi grind or a thin convex edge. Can be full tang but it isnt a neccesity. And for chopping of any kind for the love of god buy an axe, unless you want to get half the work done in twice the amount of time dont buy a big fuck off knife. You DONT need to baton, you DONT need to chop trees, you DONT need to pry things, you DONT NEED ANYTHING MORE THAN 3MM THICK. There is always an abundance of wood on the ground, burn that instead of splitting logs with your gay ass fucking knife.

If you need a knife for shtf buy a kabar + the above. A dedicated fighting knife is good to have, but dont carry it everywhere like a spaz. Buy a gun instead.

>>959475
>hunting knife

actually, most use you get from your main knife has something to do with working wood, not processing a full-sized buck.

>>959433

pretty decent knives. What's the little one? Roselli?

>>959427
>pristine, never-before-used bk2

sure sunshine. Tell me more about how your vast theoretical experience lets you theorise about that brick being adequate for anything even remotely knife-related.

>>959477
What kind of woodwork exactly? Because making a fire/shelter is kind of a one time thing and I doubt you are going to be doing much else for an extended period of time. Getting food is a much more periodic thing especially depending on what type of game. If someone is getting rabbits and grouse you are going to be doing it daily. If you are going to be trapping/collecting hides a good knife is going to save you alot of work in the long run. Again if shtf having some wealth in skins for trade is very valuble.

>>959481
Also having the best steel for a hunting knife is good so it stays sharp when you are away from camp/sharpening implements. I doubt anyone is going to be feathersticking a mile away from their camp.

>>959477
Brusletto Balder

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My Tops tex creek has done me well.

Also the sound if sliding it back into the leather sheath never gets old.

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>>959390
mora

/threat

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>>959390

Another option to look at is the TOPS fieldcraft knife. They use to be around $135 us, but I see that they are know up to $200.

>>959433

This.

Esee 4 all day here.

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>>959556
The Tops BOB are still $120 on amazon

>>959556
>tops bob

only if you can get it around 100 dollars.

For $135+ you can get a next gen or bush baby from lt wright, and for $170 a full size genesis, with some other options around $140.

Tops just cannot compare.

>>959413
>high carbon steel
why?

>>959632

Why not?

Are you a lazy cunt that would rather have stainless steel?

>>959632
Performance.

There are some pretty good stainless steels out there, like 12c27, 440c, s35vn etc, but most high performance outdoor knives use tool steels like a2, d2, o1, or 3v, and those ard not stainless.

Then there are things like Roselli's uhc steel at 66-68 hrc

>>959636
>Are you a lazy cunt that would rather have stainless steel?
yes I am, problem?

>having to oil your knife everytime you use it or having the need for stupid coatings
>being a slave of your tools
>2017
kek

>>959641
>high performance
nice meme there. tell me what can you do with a 1095 knife that your can't with a rwl34 knife

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>>959390
I like the 6
>>959412
You just described all of ESEEs knives

>>959645
Throw sparks off of the spine, sharpen in the field easily.

Sure. You can go for high end super steels like zdp 189, infi, or maxamet, but besides being quite expensive and in some cases pita to heat treat, an outdoor knife working conditions are quite different from innacity edc cutlery.

Won't the Esee rust in humid conditions or if exposed to light rain or wet wood? Is there any metal that is not carbon but not 440 and stays sharp? I don't want to worry about rust and running out of oil after months.

>>959643

>Not taking care of tools
>Not taking care of self
>Not taking care of life.

No problem here mate, your laziness reflects everywhere. I feel sorry for you.

>>959720
If you use it it won't rust.

Good camouflage boss. This thread is full of retatds thay think stainless can't rust.

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>Be /out/ hiking
>Trusty 1095 High Carbon uncoated knife by my side
>Decide to stop on trail for a snack
>Pull out unopen bag of beef jerky
>Too weak to tear the seal
>Unsheathe 1095 High Carbon knife to open package
>Blade has completely rusted since getting on trail 30 minutes ago
>Completely unpack my backpack to get out S.O.S pad, flannel cloth, and bottle of high quality protective oil
>Spend 15 minutes de scaling the rust off the blade
>Spend 5 minutes rubbing a generous amount of oil on the blade with my flannel cloth
>Go to cut open the bag of Beef Jerky
>Blade edge was completely ruined by the rust
>Dig out my Japanese Water Stone set
>Spend 45 minutes putting on a keen edge
>Finally trusty 1095 High Carbon knife is ready for action
>Begin cutting open bag of beef jerky
>Slight amount of moisture contained inside the package
>Rust instantly begins to form on the blade from this miniscule amount of moisture being released
>1095 blade begins to dull from rust and the abrasive nature of the plastic bag.
>Manage to get the package open
>1095 Blade is completely rusted and dull again
>De scale, re-oil, and resharpen on Japanese Water Stones
>Put 1095 blade back in sheath and pack up all my gear
>Get back on trail
>Just another day /out/

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>>959450
>and had to stab a nigger trying to steal your icechest?
You stab a nigger for stealing your cooler, and you think the law is going to care about the length of your knife by half an inch?? Get real.

>>959965
>cooler
Does it matter? Aren't there some states with stand your ground and castle doctrine things? If they are threatening you with a knife or about to beat you to the ground with a steel rod I assume that it being cooler, wallet or your anal virginity doesn't matter to the law.

>>959905
jesus christ pls be troll

do you use it for nothing but playing in wet forest? does it have literally zero patina? i have high carbon knives and as long as i use them for daily cooking chores for about two weeks each (wash n dry afterwards duh), they develop a robust patina. it also means i'm intimately familiar with the feel of the knife before it ever comes in the woods with me.

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>>959905
>Fucking super kek

>>960053
>pic
Noice one, wedgie!

>>959965
>>959972
Yep. I'm in texas. You steal from my truck i can shoot you dead. Castle doctorine applies to occupied vehicles.

But of course if i don't kill the nigger he will get a jew attorney and yes then a half inch too long of a knife will matter.

>>959905
Never happened or your knife is made from straight iron not 1095.

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>>959905

>>960132
>from texas
>lives in truck
>"muh cheby is muh castle!"
why would anyone try to steal from your broke ass? The only thing of value you have is a gun.

>>959905
>people on here actually think this is serious.
You downies never fails to disappoint. If you can't see that this is 100% satire you're fucking stupid.
>>960049
>>960157
Like seriously, stop drinking leaded water you fucking idiots.

>>960439
Niggers are known for their logical prowess and critical thinking skills

>>960480
now that's not nice. Just because he's homeless in texas doesn't automatically make him a nigger.
he might be a wetback.

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>>959905
Can confirm, I carry all my carbon steel knives while /out/ in a hermetically sealed case.
>pic related.

>>959390
Esee 5 is an excellent knife. I have a Fallkniven S1 Pro that I bought to replace my beat to shit Esee, but sometimes I wonder if I'd have been better off with the Esee 6.

At any rate, both are great knives for innawoods

>>959905
0/10

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>>959390

>>959390

ESEE is a shit brand for what they are vs what they say they are. It's 80% marketing.

Get a second hand Cold Steel Carbon V SRK for a knife made of the same steel with a better handle and a better weight.

>>959433
>>959655
I'm interested in the water 6 myself, but I'll admit that I worry about, and over think things a lot; I worry that a 3/16" blade is too thin for survival if I had to use it for chopping, batoning, etc is I didn't have my axe/hatchet with me. I heard the 6 tapers very quickly and isn't really 3/16" the majority of the blade, just the the beginning at the hilt. Can those of you who own it give me some insight? I know people complain about the 5 being unnecessarily thick at 1/4" but it's overbuilt design gives me peace of mind.

TL;DR Is the esee 6 tapered quickly or only nearer to the tip, orshould I just get the 5 for peace of mind?

>>961427
Water=Esee because phone's auto correct is annoying.

>>959825
It got damp for ten seconds and it rusted ...so if I DIDN'T use it it wouldn't of rusted. If I lay it down on a damp log/any situation with water I don't want to tend to it every single second of its life. I'm not always going to have oil. Are there any high tier knives that are 440c, s35vn?

>>960132
Fuck that's awesome, I'd move there if I didn't like arctic climates as much as I do

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>>961427
>>961432
Guess this is the closest pic I could get right now. It does taper but that's only an advantage I cutting and slicing.

I would be really fucking surprised if you broke this knife under "normal" ude including sensible betoning

It's just to long and for most camp chores. And it's not really a good chopper because it's a knife and not an axe

>>961476
Thanks friend.

>>961479
no problemo. i may be talking down on it but dont get me wrong i do love my Esee 6 with all ym heart, its fun knife, its a knife i love feeling on my hip and if i get scared like a giant faggot under my tarp at night, feeling that dependable steel attaches to comfortable micarta is always comforting

>>961482
Lol, good point.

>>961456

Fällkniven

And the vg-1 and 3v Cold Steels ( the reasonable ones like the SRK ) are good as well

ESEE is a meme just like TOPS

>>961601
>reasonable
>srk

Pick one. Srk is just another "muh indestructibible survihvul knoife" meme.

Tops makes a zillion silly designs and a few reasonable ones like scandi trekker, bob, shango and maybe some others. Both tops and esee are very good quality, but what kills them for me is the fact that they're in the same price range as bhk, and ltwk, and they just can't compete.

>>961611

SRK is a pretty solid design.

It's light and straightforward, issued at BUDs

Just like a Fällkniven S1 but longer and less refined, but way cheaper

>>961456
>tfw all knives owned are carbon steel
>never seen rust on any of them

>>961616
And 350% overbuilt with bad geometry.

But i guess batoning car doors for tinder is important shit...

>>961796

The 80's srk in carbon V may have questionable geometry, but the new ones are pretty straightforward.

They have great geometry for what they are.

>>959556
>>959575

both shit.
take a look at the real steel knives bushcraft 2

Op here

Thanks for the replies. So seems to be a mix of reviews. So if I'm using one knife for everyday use/innawoods camping/day hiking, what else is better than the Esee brand?

I like the 5 for the outlast me meme, but the 6 seems more wielding.

Any other opinions?

>>963858

check the first two replies in this thread.

>>960461
It speaks volumes of the level of retardation that discussions can reach.
Luckily, these theoretical experts interests generaly restricts to survivalist bullshit.

>>959965
lol they definitely will care and you will be charged
especially if they let you off the hook for killing the guy in the first place. even so they will give 30 for murder and add on like 4mo. for that half an inch.
also dont stab anyone with a knife you care about, youll never get it back from the cops

>>961394
i hate esee and they can all die and go to hell

>>963894

i think esee is a pretty cool guy

>>963858

Fällkniven S1 no coating + plastic sheath

>>959471
What's so bad about it if I may ask?
I'm looking at ordering one.

>>964023

too big, too heavy, too thick, poorly designed handle, bad geometry.

Literally everything about this knife, every dimension, is blown way out of proportion for the sake of "muh indestructible knoife" for no actual benefit (a 1/8'' thick knife is more than enough for hard use), and actually reduces performance, so the main purpose of it (said hard use) is a pain in the posterior.

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>>959390
Esee will get a lot of surface rust and you can't strike a firesteel with the spine unless u remove the black shit and it's tough to sharpen.

Get a mora heavyduty for 15 bucks