what does /out/ think of Opinel? Are they good for light outdoor

>>951994
Yes they are good. And cheap. Use it and decide for yourself.

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>>951994
>stainless

You get the wrong one, get a carbon steel one and get it rusty.

>>952000
I was gonna use it for outdoor/fishing use so I didn't want the thing to totally die

>>952003
>>952000
They use 12c27. The steel is fine. Don't get caught up in it. Just use the fucker and love it. Like everyone else does. Also they're so damn cheep you can get a carbon one later if you really have steel envy.

I have stainless steel one from 1987 but the locking collar is broken.
I should probably buy a new one, also given the fact that I live 100km from where it is produced

>>952066
How do you break the collar?

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They get sharp as fuck, especially the carbon steel ones. The main sizes (6, 7, 8) come in different woods, colors or engravings. They're easy to customize and in case you mess up you haven't wasted much money.

They're a bit unpractical to clean because of the wood, especially if you use them for eating or preparing food. I also have a couple of the smaller ones whitout the locking mechanism and I feel like they're not very useful, I also can't get them as sharp as the bigger ones for some reason.

Btw in Italy we have pic related which is very similar, comes in various sizes and woods. They cost a little more and have a different locking mechanism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOqggb-Q_CM

>>951994

they're extremely practical, if a bit plain.
That said, the whole knife is literally 5 pieces (blade, handle, pivot pin, inner, and outer collar). They're light, the handles are ergonomic, and the blades have amazing geometry (2mm convex grind, or even thinner) - very easy to sharpen, and Opinel's carbon steel is roughly equivalent to 1095. The stainless might be 12c27 or equivalent, but i'm not positive on that.

All in all - very good knives to throw somwhere in your kit and use around the camp whenever pulling out a 4'' fixed blade would be overkill.

Unless you fancy spending close to a 100 bucks on a GEC (or 60 at least, for a bullnose), you'd be very hard pressed to find a better performing production folder.

>>952068
It's not actually broken, it's worn out and won't stay in position

>>952077
The blade is too thin and the steel is cheap.

You need to buy a BK II, it will never fail you.

>>952082

weak

>>952087
>implying it will fail

>>952091
not sure I follow you on this.

My original comment ("weak") meant >>952082
is weaksauce bait.

Your point?

to make them waterproof, i fried one of mine in linseed oil - else it would burst under the viroblock and would be hard to open after a while, because of what >>952069 said.
>They're a bit unpractical to clean because of the wood

after that procedure it was very easy to open, and totaly sealed.

i recommend doing it.

here is a video of it (somehow the only ones i've found were german)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYgbS7FrJfQ

>>951994
i struggle to think of anything as good at the price point or even some what far above the price point.


are there better knives out there: absolutely. but for <15 (even the under 45) range i i dont think so.

>>951994
Opinel is pretty based /out/ knife. Mines been through years of shit and still works beautifully. Really, the only issue I've had is that in really wet conditions (in my case floating a river and the knife being in my pocket more or less submerged for a few hours) the wood handle can swell, making it a cunt to open/close the knife.


Other than that, great knife. Pretty sure you can get one with a plastic handle too, and a stainless blade, if you're gonna be wet a lot.

>>952151
Also No. 9 perfect size if you don't have dainty little girly hands.

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>>951994

don't worry about a carbon blade, just build a bit of patina on it- no worries!

>>952151
When your handle is swollen because of water or something, tap the pointy end of the back (collar's opposite side) on something hard.
The blade will open completely or just enough to pull it more easily.

>>952156
love it !

>>952157
like that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73U1PhWMzEM&t=42

Just got the No. 9 today. Nice knife. Really sharp
It's my first opinel but I can see why they're popular

>>952871
Forgot to say, it's the carbon steel one.

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would /out/ make fun of me for carrying this?

>>952932
Why would you care if they did?

it is not so practical. the handle in wood can easily break, and mostly will swollen if it gets wet, or humid. This will make the knife hard to open and close.
I'd go with a fixed knife for outdoor.

Carbon sharpens easier. The stainless is much "mushy"er. It can get sharp but It also holds a massive burr when sharpening which I find I have to steel pretty aggressively to remove

>>952138

I have a 7 and a 9 and like the smaller better. Stainless is better in my opinion, carbon leaves a taste on apples.

I have mine diassembled and cooked the wood in candle wax for 5 minutes,took them out before the wax hardened. Pretty water resistant now.

I carry a No. 8 every day, use it for slicing summer sausage for a snack. Are the tiny No. 2 or 3's gimmick toys, or do they have a use?

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>>951994
they are sharp but they feel kinda week, really a french made meme knoife.
I would just get a mora instead, just as sharp and usually $10. .
I have one, I'm only gonna use for food prep, maybe fishing, if I ever start that.

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So what does /out/ think about Laguiole then, the other famous French knife brand
Well famous in France at last, I have no idea if they are popular in other countries
They're more for table use than outdoor stuff I think but anyway, also the town of Laguiole is comfy as fuck and they make top cheese

Flimsy things. Found one from the ground and it ended up being ok, but I rather use fixed knife any day over these.

>>951994
Uni poorfag here who wants to get into /out/ shit. I need a knife, but don't have a huge budget. Should I get one of these guys? They seem pretty cheap, and sound quite good.


Ausfag, btw, and I'm mostly interested in hunting and camping, and potentially fishing in the distant future.

>>953329
that's why OP said light outdoor, any small task is good for it and people kept their opinel knife for over two decade of use.

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>>952069
bellissimo we have these in serbia

>>953334
Laguiole are not outdoor knives.

there is also a huge catch, the brand is not protected, anybody can make laguiole knife,the result is you need to be really careful or you will end up with some made in china crap.

They are more object of art for light use than outdoor stuff, especially those with horn handle.
The one in you pic would easy be 600€

>>952932
No but it's probably not useful unless you're harvesting mushrooms.

>>952932
I have one, and also the discontinued carbon version. They are pretty fucking big for EDC in most cases, but when I worked for a landscaper, I carried and used mine daily. It really came in handy for that niche. Downside besides size is- no good for slicing, stabbing, gutting/food prep. Just not good for all-around use. I still use my inox one for light pruning around the house. So sharp that use it like a mini-machete. Just a quick flick of the wrist and it lopps off new growth like a fucking lightsaber.

>>953418
No. They make a model specifically for harvesting mushrooms. This model was designed for cutting grape vines.

>>953465
or other plants

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do you guys actually use the brush on muchroom knives? feels really annoying in the pocket and i rarely use it, should i use it more or cut it off?

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Here's my Opie collection. I've given away as many as I own. I have almost as many Moras.

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>>953467
Don't ruin it. Get a sheath.

>>952000
Not op. I use carbon in the winter, inox in The summer.

>>953466
Of course. But if you read it's history, it was specifically designed to harvest grapes.

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>>953377
DESU, they're not really an /out/ knife; they're more of a gentleman's folder. They're not tactical, they're not super strong, but they're sharp and cheap but still good. You can whittle, cut food, clean your nails, and do other light duty stuff, but thats about it.

>>953497
Actually they are considered by their makers a "peasants knife", though thy are made in "gentlemanly" versions now. I would be quite comfortable with a #8 as my only knife in the wilderness, if I also had a good axe/hatchet.

>>953501
I'm sure there are no hard rules as to define a knife, but the reason i call it a gentleman's folder is its not tactical, its reasonably sized, doesn't make you look like a /k/ommando nutcase or some outdoor hippy. Its a reasonable folding knife for light to medium duty.

Another gentleman's aspect is you can lend it out to a person in current need, and if they break or lose it, you're not losing your shit over $10.

I'll ask again; are the tiny #2 or 3 blades actually useful or just a gimmick?

>>953017
I take my new ones apart and soak the wood in minimally processed tung oil for a couple of days, then allow them to cure for a couple of weeks before reassembly.
It's very easy to adjust the pivot tension by slightly bending the inner collar in or out. I keep mine just loose enough to flip out one handed. After the tung oil treatment (unbound linseed probably works as good), I don't see any expansion /contraction due to the elements.

>>953510
I can use a #8 at a steak house instead of the shitty knives the resturant provides, and no one freaks or or really notices. So in that aspect, I'd call them gentlemanly.

The #2&3s are good for much more than fingernails and opening packages. They're cute. The #12 and larger are just to fucking big. They look more like kitchen knives. I had a #12, but gave it away to the person who gave me my first #8 long before they were readily availible here in the US.

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I wish they did this one in size 6 or 7.

>>953510
I have a 2 and a 4 and I'm starting to think they're a gimmick. Unlike slipjoints or other friction folders with the elongated tang, the blade folds very easily. Also I can't get them to be as sharp as the 6, 7, 8 I own. I guess you can use them as letter openers if you want.

>>953530
*aren't * good

>>953418
If he wants to feel like a scIentist I imagine it's got good usE as a sickle, for grass for his fires

>>951994
Best Christmas gifts ever! I've given them to all 8 of my nephews and they all love and use them (their parents weren't quite as happy).

>>953377
Get a Mora in the same price range. Carbon is better, but get stainless if you're around saltwater or you don't want to wash and oil alot.

>>953539
The inox used by mora and opinel are both made of nearly identical Sandvik steel.

>>951994
I'm about to mod a #8 lnox for better carry. Chiseling a flat on one side near the bottom. Drilling 3 holes to epoxy in 3 threaded brass anchors. Then I'm screwing on a pocket clip off of a broken spyderco. Will post pics tomorrow (giving the epoxy 24 hours to fully cure before bolting on. Anyone else mod their Opie handles or blades?

>>951994
Considering that the base models cost less than a pack of smokes in NYC, I think they're fricking awsome.

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>>953557
Did this to my n6 in walnut. It's not much modding but I did it all by hand using a coarse sharpening stone to shape the blade and sandpaper for the handle.

>>953598
Not too bad at all. Looks more American; seems better for skinning.

You can see my walnut in my collection above. Got an olive wood too; it's really pretty, but you can't tell from my shitty phone picture.

>>953510
> I'll ask again; are the tiny #2 or 3 blades actually useful or just a gimmick?

You can sharpen them like razors. They have no lock system so you need to be extra careful, they are nice as Keychain.

>>953017
Got me a new 8 few months ago sounds like a good method to me. That's the good thing about them, so cheap so you can experiment with them.

>>953513
It's alright, as long as it works. You can do that with linseed oil as well. The main reason i heat the oil up is to make the procedure faster and another one is you can get a dark brown color with frying it up.

Now i realise i never disassembled them to make this, probably a good idea to do this first.

>>953623
Disassembly is not hard after the first time. Just make sure you don't distort the pivot pin. When you punch it out, do it from the unstaked side. I do it on top of a sandbag so the majority of the knife is supported, but the side opposite the punch can freely move out.
Taking the lock collar off is super easy. Just lock the knife closed, then force the blade open. It will spring right off.

>>952156
That looks nice. May i ask which method you used to modify your handle?

>>953623
Oil penetrates better, especially on the lacquered carbones, if you sand with 300 grit or less before treating. Smooth things back out with 400 or finer after the oil is reasonably cured (do the blade grove too).

>>953632
Thanks for the advice! Only knew how to get the virobloc of, not the rest.

>>953636
Nice didn't knew that, but i am curious how the handle woud feel like when waxed though.
Forgot to mention that i sand mine before and after the procedure as well. But what you mean by "do the blade grove"?

>>951994
BTW, the French Opinel website has alot more infomation than Opinel USA. Any Frenchman lurking?

>>953650
I sand inside the groove where the blade rests, so that I get maximum oil penetration from inside as well as out. Mainly a concern on the carbones, since they are coated with a lacquer wash. I do the inoxes too though.

>>953623
I've thought about using a pressure cooker to force the oil in, but I worry about BOOM! Plus, you can buy several Opies for the price of the cooker.

>>953635
Opinel USA sells them with special edition decorative engravings. For $5-15, you can get personalized laser engravings on the blade and/or handle. Don't waste money getting a carbon blade engraved though; once it gets a good patina, you can't see the engraving unless you look really close.

>>953658
Ah, didn't knew what "groove" meant in that context, as english isn't my native tongue. Thanks for clarifying that.

>>953497
is it sturdy enough to baton meat?

>>953654
Yeah, what do you want to know?

>>953683
Eh, I spelled it wrong the first time...

>>953690
Sweet. Is that factory or custom?

>>953697
The Eiffel has a great polish. When they're that nice, I have a hard time using them.

>>953695
Does literally every Frenchman have one?
What folding knives do you guys consider worthy of carrying everyday, and are you even allowed to?
Is carving unturned Opie handles really the 3rd most popular national pastime after futball and surrender?

Thought it best to address the stereotypes first.

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>>953700
i see that and raise you

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>>953720

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>>953723

>>953411
This anon is right BUT i met a former french elite forces soldier that always carried his Laguiole, and eventually had it driven over by a tank, still working. I don't get wqhy but he told me that it was the only knife that we would ever use.

>>953654
>>953718
Other frenchfag here.

>Does literally every Frenchman have one?
Mhh not really. Carrying knife isnt a thing in France, probably because it is illegal. But if you go in the mountains, you'll probably find a real high density opinel-carrying people.

>>953742
Thanks for responding. It's similar here. Larger city's and towns have restrictions sometimes, but in more rural areas and in certain regions, carrying a pocket knife is almost expected. I carried a pocket knife, even at school, from the time I was 12 years old. When I was in high school, teachers might casually ask "can I borrow one of you boy's pocket knife to open this box of paper"? 9/11 and Columbine ended all that freedom. Sorry, that's a rant for a different board.

>>951994
For the price and quality there is literally NO reason not to have one

>>953718
>Does literally every Frenchman have one?
Every Frenchman over the age of 30 most likely has one somewhere at home or in a backpack.

>What folding knives do you guys consider worthy of carrying everyday, and are you even allowed to?
We are no allowed to carry knife around, to be carried everyday a knife must have a corkscrew, the opinel with a corkscrew is not very liked so people most often carry laguiole or swiss army knife.
We also suffer from an influx of Chinese made crap, you often find shit knives at the local supermarket for 5 to 7€ but no opinel around, sad.

>>952077
well don't fucking say it's broken then if its not.

>>952138
>German Opinel comes in blister pack
Why?

>>953654
>Any Frenchman lurking?

Yeah

>>953718
>Does literally every Frenchman have one?

It's common as fuck yeah, probably the first knife French people own in their life (my dad gave one to me when I was about 10 to carve sticks to make arrows and shit). Not common as in everybody carries one at any time, but the vast majority of people I know own one. If you go camping with your mates or just have a basic picnic or afternoon stroll in the nearby nature chances are someone will have one, I know I always do

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>>953650

You don't feel the wax at all once wiped down. Yet the pores are filled with it, thus making it water resistant.

When you cook the handle in wax the water in the wood evaporates, so you see tiny bubbles escape.

Once the bubbling stops you let it cool down slowly, the liquid wax will enter the wood as it cools down. Before it is hardening you take out the handle, wipe it down and reassemble.

Wax doesn't get as hot as oil, enough to make all the water evaporate (maybe 120°C), but not enough to brown the wood.

I have a carbon Steel no. 8 for years and it is among the best /out knives. I just oxidated the blade in orange and red wine to prevent it from risting, sharpen it on a wet stone when needed and thats it. Sure, you can use it as dick extension because its not trve steel muh baton shillknife but I never had any need for anything better. Hell, I get it with me when I go fishing and clean fish with it, works damn good. Also, for backup I carry a basic of the basic SAK and sometimes a cheap carbon steel Mora , and I swear to God its not a bait. Best shit ever.

>>953962
Can't use it as dick extension*

>>953961
You see a Hultafors HVK GK and a Opinel #9.

Both are carbon and about the same size opened.

The Hultafors is the same price and basically a mora with a better handle and sheath.

The patches mean i have killed three /out/ists inna woods.

>>953961
>hogging out patches
Hmmmm

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>>954020
jelly?

>>951994
I never handled one, but something about them looks very flimsy. Or that collar rattles all the time.

Are they sturdy?
How does that round handle fit inside a pocket?

>>954348
Mine doesn't instill confidence of "this thing is built like a tank" but I know its limitations. Its a light to medium duty gentleman's folder as previously stated. Its not a rattler; they're very firm and tight fitting. It takes a bit of intention to turn the collar. Many people have owned these for decades and they're still solid.

The knife weighs about 1oz. Its about the size of a roll of nickels, its not small but unless your pants are emo skinny jeans, its not obtrusive. Seriously, go buy one for $12 and see how much you like it.

>>951994
I have good kitchen knives, but I find myself using a N○8 to cook alot. Fun to thinly slice raw meats with such a sharp little blade.

>>954348
yeah they're not flimsy. They feel sturdier than a SAK, for reference

>>953467
all the time.

>>953635

pyrography kit, but it's pretty much the same as soldering iron- you just burn the pattern in

>have 4 opinels
>8-9-10-12
>thinking about carving the handle

The most common mod I see around is cutting the butt like this
>>953699
>>953697
>>953598
>>953531
but I don't see that making the knife much more comfortable than it already is.
I'll probably just sand it down and oil it with lineseed oil or something to make it darker.

>>953462
pics?

>>953497
are you gonna hit the back side with another sausage to cut that one?

>>951994
>what does /out/ think of Opinel?

Good.

>>957748
Far right.>>953470

>>958100
Whats with /out/ and batoning sausages. Thats gay.

>>953470
Why do you have so many of both brands?
Do you have a video on their purposes?
I know the Opies are flat/curved/etc but how many things can you cut with a dozen Moras?
Thanks.

>>959736
They're cheap. If somebody compliments my knife, I give it to them.

>>959744
I have a son and 8 nephews. Alot of people like my knife.

can you not get a carbon blade with anything other than a beech wood handle ?

>>960072
I got a stainless steel one with some kind of stained Finnish (?) timber. I forget what the guy at the store said. I imagine there are variations for carbon too

>>960082
I can't seem to find anything other than the standard wood for the carbon blades on their websit e

>>953718
Carrying a knife in your pockets is in a grey legal area. Even though the old timey image of the opinel might get you a free pass if you're white you probably want one with a corkscrew to be sure.
It's legal to have on in your bag if it's got a seath however but not many people know that. A lot of people still spout the legend that a knife is legal to carry as long as the blade is shorter than your palm.
Opinel is really common, that's what most parents give out as a first knife unless they want to flaunt and get you a laguiole.
I used to carry my laguiole with bodkin (gets the same public image as the corkscrew one basically) until I gave it away to a nephew. Then I went on with a homemade one but a dirty cop confiscated it in a random search so now I carry an opinel to avoid trouble/nostalgic value loss.

>>960083
Some of the woods, like olive, have too low a pH to be fit with carbon. The wood rusts it badly supposedly.

>>960072
I don't know of any. You can switch out blades fairly easily if you like.

>>960091
i didn't know france was that bad can't carry a pocket knife


damn

>>960096
Like I said it's more of a gray area. The weapon category knives belong to has a clause that makes it include any possible melee weapon.
The result is technically if a cop really doesn't like your guts you could get arrested for carrying a pencil and get away with it if he said you were brandishing it like an icepick. In the same vein if you're buddy buddy with the cops you could carry a sword.
That's why corkscrew knives and opinels in a lesser way are a good pick. As long as there is no "délit de faciès" as we call it (ie: you're white), you probably get a free pass.
My knife that got confiscated was probably because the cop liked it. Normally you are supposed to ask them where they are based and come pick it back later but most people don't know that (I didn't at the time) and if you don't ask they'll just keep it.

>>960100
U.S.. That happens here with guns sometimes.

>>952000
a e s t h e t i c

>>951994
Brother-in-law (cabinetmaker) owns one. Best knife he ever had in his opinion

I know this thread is just about the Opinel brand, but I'm looking for an inexpensive knife that's ideal for whittling as I'm just getting into the hobby. I have several pockeknives of various styles, but none are suited for the hobby. I know Opinel is a good one to look into, but what's the best single or multi-blade pocket knife for whittling under $15-20?

>>960971
Mora makes specialized carving knives. They may be 10 or 20 more than you want to spend, but they are pro grade.

>>951994

I like them. I love their olivewood.

They're fine for light use.

They make a fine cheap work knife, but the biggest downfall by far is their vulnerability to moisture. get a closed opinel wet and it isn't opening again until it's fully dry. they're pretty much useless got bushcraft or camping.

If you want an ideal outdoor knife, get a mora.

>>960096
same exact laws in Cuckada. Any kind of locking blade is also illegal.

>>961667
No its not lol. Im pretty certain that you can carry any kind of knife that isnt a switchblade, balisong or hidden knife (disguised as something else like a lipstick or cane).

Fixed blade or not you can carry anything so long as you have a reason to.

>>951994
>Knives with tips
No thanks

>>961719

guess what, faggot. having one in your pocket is concealing it.

I lived in Canada for the better part of a decade. locking blades are illegal.

>>953718
You can buy Opinels in so many places in France.
My mom gave me my first knife when I was 4, a blunt, round tipped, kid sized Opinel. (I ran it all over her car for some reasons)
They're okay knives for a daily use, super easy to sharpen. I always have at least one.

>>962372
>>961667
why is everywhere not in america such a cucked shithole about tiny knives, let alone anything else

>>961832

They make tipless versions too.

>>961593
They make versions with plastic handles exactly for that reason. It's like people have no idea what is on offer.

>>961593
Read the whole thread to see several was to make the wood impervious to mosture/expansion/conraction. Never had one get so tight that the Coup de Savoie wouldn't get it open.

>>962372
Then how come I have bought an opinel in a canadian store? And Have seen buck 110s in just about every crappy tire?

Ive lived in canada my entire life and carried a knife of some kind since my teens and never once had any trouble with anyone. You must be from the Us or something because those laws have never existed here.

>>962422
Hes completely wrong though. Canada has better knife laws than the us. No length restrictions, you can carry them out in public as you please and they can be locking, slipjoint, spring assist etc so ling as they arent balisongs (only reason they are illegal is because dumb kids kept cutting themselves with them) and switchblades. You can carry them anywhere except goverment building iirc and you have to have a good reason (Work, food, hunting, absolutely not self defense).

I have a No. 9 and use it mainly for work. It's a great knife, especially for that price. Fun fact: Due to the knife laws in France, you are not allowed to carry an Opinel.

>>962570

"you just need to have a good reason"

lol fucking cucks.

Most of the time, when "civilized" folks ask why I carry a knife daily, I have the time and patience to explain the many non-self-defence uses my knife affords me. But if I detect a note of superiority in their voice when they ask, then I simply reply, "Because I can".

>>962570
Better laws? Stupid fucking leaf.

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>>963069
Better a leaf, than a jewish puppet. :)

>>962931
Whats cucked about that? You shits cant carry anything over 3" hahaha

>>963095
Every State has it's own laws regarding knives, and there are 50 of them. Each city within a state can regulate carry. There are thousands of them. I figured it was the same way from province to province, city to city there. Is that not the case?

>>963095
>Better a leaf, than a jewish puppet.
leafs are the biggest goys

>>953510
They're pretty gimmicky.
That said they do come in usefull sometimes if you slip them in the pennypocket of your jeans and find yourself fighting with things like blisterpacks and tie-rips.

>>953467
My father have this one. It' the best mushroom knife in the world.
Keep the brush and get wilder pockets or carry it in your shroom bag.

>>963095
>You shits cant carry anything over 3" hahaha
We can carry handguns anywhere we please, and most states we can open carry long guns. And cops don't care how big a knife is unless you're a nigger or commit a crime with said knife. Stupid syrup slurping cannuck cuckold. canadia sucks deal with. It will always be America's retarded cousin in the attic.

>>965132
No length, auto or balisong laws in my state.

>>963125
>goy

Inigo Montoya would like a word with you.