Fishing & Tackle Thread

>>933457
Where's the tits and ass?

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>>933457
>mfw not finding this thread

Without the T&A I totally didn't see this thread until I saw the crosslink for it in the previous thread.

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>>933467
>>933468
I know. It was supposed to be pic related but the people wanted Geeps.

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>>933468
At least I didn't come to out and be reminded that no gf

I've got to go buy some netting to make a seine
For minnows and other bait species

>Too cold to fish normally
>Not cold enough to go ice fishing.

I could drive north 20-40 minutes and possibly find some safe ice but still not sure

I started getting a sense of pleasure of the smell of fish.

Like I'm getting the urge to fish and smell more.

Not like hw fish taste but how sunfish smell, you know?

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>>933530
Idk about fish, but I enjoy that funky ocean smell at 4am when the wind is calm. Used to think it was gross but now it is just peaceful.

>>933534
The smell of salt in the air.

That slightly sticky feeling.

The constant breeze tickling ever hair.

The warm sun recharging your soul.

The every so often sting of sand hitting skin.

>hardasarock.jpg

>>933530

I love the smell of fish, the sight/smell/sound of open water, and especially cow patties and churned soil as it reminds me of my childhood spent fishing mostly farm ponds.

>>933530
to me:
sunfish smell like pond algae.
stripers smell like lavender and lychee
tuna smell like blood

half a bag of anchovies left in your cooler for a week and a half smells like hell.

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>that feeling when the flashlight gives out every now-and-then while walking over soft ground towards the water
>the sound of sloshing water in the live bait bucket and the thump of fish hitting their heads against it
>frogs croaking, owls hooting, and crickets chirping
>switching to Coleman lantern a shore camp
>foggy mist drifting through everything
>setting up folding chairs
>checking rigs; occasional light prick of a hook against your fingers
>smell of wood smoke as the fire is being started
>hooking wiggling baitfish to the rigs and casting them into the darkness
>hearing the distant splash of the rig hitting the water
>setting rod after rod into their holders
>that ice cold feeling of sifting through the cooler ice to get the first drink
>relaxing for the first 10 mins while sipping your drink and watching lines in anticipation

>...two lines start pulling at once

>>933570
make a big crank bait faggot

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>>933592

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>>933597
>tfw retarded and ate old bread when there is a fresh baked loaf right next to it

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>>933614
Plus, you can always use a swivel at the start of the leader instead of near or on the snap.

>>933225
I don't use those for plugs and such. I use the triangle quick snaps I make. Those old style brass snaps, with the painted on eye, are only used for catching baitfish.

So I bought a 7' cast net to use on the boat for catching shad and other bait fish but my boat doesn't have any live well. Do any of you guys have experience with / recommendations for any of those insulated buckets + aerators?

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>>933623
Just remember cold water holds more oxygen than warm water. If you just want to keep em alive for a couple hours a foam bucket with an aerator should be fine. Otherwise they make the buckets and baskets that you hang off a rope or chain but idk how well that would do if you are cruising around at higher speeds since I mostly see those hanging off docks.

Those baskets are actually nice tho whether using em for bait or a livewell. I remember using a bigger one at my friend's place on the river when I was younger and we would just dump all our walleye and bluegill and crappie in there until the end of the day when we threw them in the cooler. Plus they fold down flat and compact.

>>933631
I have some of those and use them when I'm fishing for rainbow trout that they stock in some of the local community ponds around here. They aren't ideal for use on the boat, especially if I'm moving around a lot trying to get on the fish.

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>man i wanna go fishing
>but its too cold, waste of time
>man i wanna go fishing
>but its too cold, waste of time
>man i wanna go fishing
>but its too cold, waste of time
>man i wanna go fishing
>but its too cold, waste of time

>>933623
>>933631
>>933632
Eh, I have plenty of empty 5 gallon buckets laying around, I think I'll just try to find some of these at Home Depot:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Leaktite-5-gal-Bucket-Companion-Cooler-3-Pack-211306/205186907?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-AllProducts%7c&gclid=CMKz6sWLz9ECFVGewAodLRoNqA&gclsrc=aw.ds

and then use a cheap, battery powered aerator like this:

http://www.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shops-Aerator/product/74343/

I could even put some extras together as gifts.

>>933637
Or hell, I have several old ice chests laying around that I don't use much anymore, I'll just slap the aerator on one and repurpose it as a bait container.

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>>933534
No ocean, but here's a canyon stream. Pic taken at resivoir towards mouth of the canyon towards late afternoon.
A lot more ice now. And no fish yet. Still trying to figure out winter fly fishing.

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>>933643
>Still trying to figure out winter fly fishing.

Target fish? Water depth?

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>>933457
Any out/ists know some good winter catfish spots in Arizona within and hour or two of Phoenix?

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>>933633
That dudnt stop me on the 7th
>12°F
>eyeguides keep freezing shut
>line frozen
>leader/tippet/indicator frozen
>waders partially frozen
>didn't catch a thing
Saturday I'm jumping in the Cuyahoga for pike.
>>933643
Small worked for me in December this year
>pic related, 14.5 inch brown trout on #20 pheasant tail
And slow the fuq down

>>933651
>want to go catch minnows
>no waiders currently
>too cold ot bare wade

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Did anon ever get that Nexave reel? Any good?

>>933646
>that heavy ass rod for that little fish
She must be Latina
>tfw would be good OP pic but blue board full or cunts who report everything

>>933666
no but i keep reconsidering it
also considering buying 5 ugly stik ice fishing rods for my diy jawjackers since theyre on sale for $24 instead of 30

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>>933623
I just use these frabill trolling minnow buckets
>pic related
Just empty the net is a bucket the transfer it from one bucket to the other

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>>933623
use a old cooler.
bring frozen bottles of water
toss in the water
keeps bait cool

>>933662
Hmm.
Well fuck

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>>933666
lol ikr

>>933678
i might try it toorrow since im not a bitch, and tomorrow is supposed to be a few degrees above freezing

also
>so uch little shit i want to buy
>dont want to spend money
>well fuck

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>>933649
mitry lake in yuma. its not that far from you & you can camp there too..used to fish it a bunch.

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>>933530
Lake Fork Guys is that you?

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>>933679
The Latina part or the fegs who report everything on this board?

>>933637
They make those lids too. My current minnow bucket is a regular white 5 gal bucket with one of these lids. Only problem is the summer heat gets them so fast. Last time I used it I got like a dozen and a half med-small shiners in that big bucket around 5:30am and it was summer and they were floating by 9:30am because the water got warm so fast.

>>933646
>>933679
>let me just switch hands so I can grab this fish.

>>933646
Gainesville for trout or mountain whitefish if I can at all find them. Mostly trout. And depth varies from 6 in to 6ft depending where on the river I happen to be. Mostly trying the deeper areas, as thats where the fish are supposedely

>>933651
I need to stock up on smaller flues or something. I got a bite on a wooly bugger, but that's all I've gotten since the snow

>>933694
*going for
Not gainsville, the fuck phone.

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>>933690
>the fegs

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>>933698
Lel that works

>>933681
That's like a 3.5 hour drive from Phoenix man. There are many other resovoirs closer and allow camping.

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Custom rod is all finished. Theres a few rough spots in the epoxy where i didnt trim tag ends well enough, and one where a decal popped up while drying. Nothing structurally sketchy but next time my finish will be mint.

The rod weighs next to nothing. One of the lightest ive ever held. Its a lamiglas triflex rated 1/4 -1oz lures. Its a graphite blank with a fiberglass tip making it extra soft.

This rod is going to be used for bucktailing for fluke (obviously). Now i just have to wait til may to try it out...

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>>933736

Another one of the finished guides.

>>933736
What are fluke? Flounder/sole?

Why do you want an extra soft action is it easy to rip fluke lips and mouths with hooks or what?

>>933736
What did it cost after everything? What would a complete rod of the same quality cost? Less or more?

I can never guess with shit like that. Growing up with BMX bikes, you could buy a complete bike for $800 and if you wanted to build the same bicycle buying all the parts separate, it would probably be like $1200.

But then I heard that computers are normally cheaper if you custom build them, the opposite of the bicycle where you could buy one off the shelf for $1200 or build one with the same parts and capabilities for $800.

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>>933740

Fluke are known as summer flounder, they are a delicious bottom fish. Fun to fish for and catch.

The soft tip helps in bouncing the bucktail easier and feeling the response.

>>933742
Neat. Wish I had salt water near me.

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>>933741

It was roughly $250. 3 days build time, and about a week worth of reading beforehand.

A normal triflex is around the same price, but i was able to customize handle, reel seat, and my guides. Plus whatever color scheme i wanted. And it was fun as hell

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>>933736
You can use a lighter to make tag ends disappear. Just be quick with the flame. Very nice work, fyi.

>>933530
t. LakeForkGuy

>>933689
Sheeit I had it typed out and forgot to send it

>>933698
Source pls

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>>933756
>Source pls

http://forums.drom.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=4530269&d=1405050834

>>933754

Thanks. Im very pleased considering its my first time. Yeah i kinda learned that after the fact. Ill do another one next winter, maybe a freshwater rod or a surf rod, and it will be a much cleaner build.

>>933773
do you do much waiding fishing?
asking because its some of my favorite fishing

>>933781

I surf fish once in a while with a pair of waders. Never in freshwater though. I just get in the kayak if i cant reach a spot from shore.

>>933783

one of my favorate spots is a sandbar that goes close to 400 yards offshore ( well the furthest ive gone out)
ankle to chest deep water with the fish between your legs
Sadly mostly that is there are sea robbins but ive gotten a fair share of fluke out of there, havent been there in a striper or bluefish blitz but still fun
especially with freshwater rods and the little cousins

>>933764
Tfw no qt Russian girl to fish neked with

>>933788
>thorns
>mosquitos
>superior Aryan skin burning
atleast i dont have to worry about poison ivy

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how it this kayak for fishing?

Im kind of poor, and is the lowest price i could find that is a "Fishing" kayak, sold in walmart for $220, and craiglist have nothing in the next 100 miles.

Lifetime Hydro 8'5" Sit On Top Fishing Kayak with Paddle

>>933788
>Putin's 10,685th mistress

>>933796
how much do you weigh?

>>933809
105 Kgs, or 231 lbs, and 1.84 cm, or 6 foot tall.

>>933819
>>933809
fuck, i just read that is for 225 lbs, so thats me, plus any equipment i want to have, is a big no, damn, i need to start donating plasma.

>>933819
youre going to want a 10 ft kayak with 500 lb capacity iff possible

>>933821
those are pretty expensive, $700 for one of 400lbs, damit, i want to be able to fish further, but I dont have a boat, or anything, also the exercise was going to be good.

I work 5 minutes in car from this dam and I cant go because the level is too high and there are no more roads to go by foot,

>>933825
used anything?
trust me as someone whos 6 ft 3 220 lbs
a normal 8-9 ft kayak is going to feel short and probably wobbly
also weight limits are a thing
i have a feel free moken 10 and its great for all things freshwayer, havent taken it out in the salt much at all desu but for salt id like something larger

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>>933819
>>933821
>>933825
>>933827
I'm also around the same at 6'3" and 230, I can tell you now that 13-14 ft is really the minimum for and kind of handling if you're sea kayaking, and at least 11-12 ft if you're sticking to rivers.
Anything shorter than that is either for specialized kayaking like surfing or whitewater or is just pure meme-tier.
If you can't afford a decent kayak of that size, you could always build a skin on frame for a small fraction of the price of say, a real 17 footer sit-in sea kayak (which, if you get to enjoy kayaking at all, is what you'll want to get anyway.)

>>933829
i think the anon asking is asking about freshwter
and 10-11 ft is nice for that, shorter size makes for easy menuvering
im hoping to get a 13 ft hobie with the mirage drive next
for salt if i do that more next year

>>933827
nothing used in 100 miles around,at least, this hobbie was not supposed to be that expensive, $700 I may throw another $300 and get a new camera.

>>933829
>>933831
well, I think I got "redpilled" about those cheap kayaks I see at walmart and Academy,

and yes is freshwater, Lake amistad tx,

>>933833
How important is standing to you?

>>933789
Worth it

>>933799
Less shit for me to pay for. It's a win-win.

>>933796
Your best bet is to continuously check Craigslist and check it often, that's where l got mine. I'm 6'1 260 and my field and stream eagle talon 12 works and holds up well. It can handle a lot of abuse and wake once you get used to it

>>933831
You're not concerned about the fins bottoming out or hitting rocks under the surface on shallow launches? I'd steer clear myself in favour of a real sea kayak that's retrotfitted for fishing, but then again; my area has a lot of beaches that are shallow at low, some with some decent chunks of granite sitting just below the water.

>>933833
A lot of the cheap Chinese kayaks are made of non UV stable poly and will decay in time, they also have poor quality fittings and the fasteners are poor quality stainless or even mild steel in some cases. Best to avoid them and buy a decent second hand kayak as your first boat, even for lake-only fishing.

>>933836
This really, I was looking for one for a friend just after Christmas and NY and sure enough, you see some half decent brand name kayaks for sale.

>>933837
while id love to have a 17 ft sea kayak i think a 13 ft hobbie will be better for me, the ability to paddle while fishing is very nice plus if/when upper body gets fatigued i have the peddals
you can take them out for launch etc and put them in when youre in 5 ft of water

i very well may not end up getting any new kayak but thats what ive been thinking

>tfw 2 for 12 mirrolures at Dick's

Just got a ton of the mogan series with trokar hooks.

>>933835
I dont care about standing up, I care about being able to cast, not get drown or stranded in the middle of the lake, and to travel good distance with it, also to carry my stuff plus a 24 beer case.

>>933836
I think I have to wait then until something pops up on craiglist, I wanted one for my birthday, the wife already agreed on buying one as a present for me, but now I dont want to, is too expensive.

>>933837
No chinese shit, got it.

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>>933840
Paddling when fishing does sound kinda nice where you're not allowed to anchor and there's lots of current, but if you're either anchored, trolling or drifting it'll be nothing that a small anchor can't do desu.
Does you upper body get fatigued normally? it shouldn't really unless you have a paddle with very large fins or you paddle with your arms (disregarding conditions, that is)

Getting a new kayak is great and you should if you can afford it, but it might not be mush of an upgrade if it's only for fishing and doesn't improve much upon what you already have.
If you're buying a new kayak because you want to camp, tour or cross channels and other more ambitious activities, I'd recommend it whole heartedly.
Try a few out if you can, as well as smaller bladed touring paddles; you'd be surprised at the difference that a new paddle can make by itself to your handling and efficiency on the water.

>>933845
my real issue right now is my current kayak is quite wide(3 ft) , non streamlined, heavy and too short for the ocean(10.5 ft),
upper body tends to get slightly fatigued after a day on the water and alot of paddiling ( full day)
i ostly want to increase the range i have with dual transportation , get something slightly more streamlined and st it up nice for fishing
im hoping 13 ft will be a nice compromise between something small enough i can use in fresh water and something slightly longer that handles ocean well

>>933848
An important element of technique is to have a long stroke that uses a lot of torso rotation as well as using the arms, but assuming your technique is fine and you're eating plenty to keep your energy up on the water; it's very likely to be your kayak.
Width of the hull relative to the length is the main factor in how fast and efficient you are, and a well shaped hull will help you be able to steer properly by leaning your kayak.
3 feet and 10.5' is always going to be slow and have problems with tide locking and choppy water handling, and even with decent fitness you will be limited severely in how many miles you can clock in a day.
Depending on how much stuff you carry when you fish, you might be able to find a decent 2nd hand sit in kayak or a slimmer sit on top designed for fishing so be on the lookout in the classifieds and even kayak fishing forums and such to find something that fits the bill.
If you're someone who only keeps the rigs, bait and lures to target specific fish that you're after and a rod or two, you can choose pretty much any boat you want and get the best performance by buying a longer sit in kayak for example and fitting it with a rod holder or 2 and loading your cargo inside the hull in dry sacks or float bags.
Sit on top fishing kayaks are a massive compromise really and I'd only recommend them for people who don't go out in rough conditions or very far offshore and just want stacks of rod holders and space for a cooler for fish (The only clear advantage they have in my book, and you can easily fit 2-3 rod holders to a sea kayak if you really need to, it being harder to fit a cooler is the only real downside.)

>>933690

If heat id getting to them, changing out the water every other hour or so with cooler water should help.

If I'm out fishing all day I usually have a cooler with ice and/or frozen bottles of water. I'll toss one in with the bait.

>>933796

Your weight/size and experience kayaking is critical.

For most people 5'5 an 175 or so, a 10 footer does okay but a 12 footer is always better.

If you're darn close to 6 feet and/or well past 200lbs then either get a 30 inch or wider 12 foot kayak or go 13+ feet.

You're not going to find a decent kayak for a bigger guy under 500 bucks unless you get one on sale with a coupon or buy used off of Craigslist.

Everyone who gets a kayak either ends up not liking it and selling it, or eventually upgrades to a better kayak and sells the old one.

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>>933863
Why not have a washing basket livewell to keep them fresh? Obviously you'd have to find one with smaller holes than pic related.

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>>933842
I like my sun dolphin. It's not the fastest thing in the world, but I've paddled around with my buddy on the back and I wasn't worried about tipping or anything. I've been out on it all day and haven't really been super tired from it, unless it's very windy. This thing catches wind like crazy.

The 12' (pic) is around $400-500 new. 400lb capacity. I have an excursion, but the Aruba is the same thing just bright colros and it doesn't have a rod holder up front.

After googling it looks like the one I have was discontinued.

>>933842
You can get a DUI in a kayak just so you know.

Same way you can get one on a bicycle or riding lawn mower.

>>933819

Get the Perception Striker 11.5 or West Marine Cayman. It won't be the fastest boat but the thing is a fucking truck that even my 250lbs ass can stand and toss a cast net from.

And I don't really need speed when I only paddle a couple miles around a lake, down the creek/river, or along bayou/backwater.

Any other kayak as stable is going to cost nearly twice as much.

>>933869
Depending on where you live, as long as I drink only beer and don't get plastered I'm perfectly fine.

>>933866

I'd be too concerned about bait jumping out. Minnows, shad, and especially mullet and shrimp.

>>933875
>24 pack of beer for a single person in kayak
>only beer so you wont get you drunk bro
>oh hello Mr game and fish officer no this is just beer and not alcohol cans I have been tossing empty into the lake
>breathalyzer? This is America my game and fish and this is just beer you don't get drunk from beer
>fishing poles, kayak, and all equipment taken to be sold to fund game and fish
>suspension of fishing rights
>5k for DUI ticket and court defense
>loose license

Yeah bro you will be fine. It's just 24 beers. Harmless. No one has ever died because they were drinking alone on a boat voyage.

You sound as dumb as those fags who smoke weed and drive and act like they drive fine as they split two lanes.

>>933878
Just put plastic screen mesh over the top with a star cut so you can stick your hand or a net in.

The side holes would need mesh over them too honestly. Too big for bait fish.

>>933879
>>fishing poles, kayak, and all equipment taken to be sold to fund game and fish

Idk about this one. They can't do that for any infraction can they? I would assume they could only do that if you were poaching/commiting a felony.

>>933881
Yes they can. Look up civil forfeiture and how game and fish have basically the power of FBI agents these days. If you got caught with drugs, poaching, or doing some illegal shit they can take everything. If you are poaching they even get to automatically search your house for more evidence of it.

It changed in the last decade. Game fish didn't even use to be able to issue DUI tickets or arrests. People would just shoot wardens and shit so they got militarized like the rest of the police.

They can take shit easier than police officers can if they want to be dicks.

>>933881
>thinking you can't get a felony from a DUI

I have some news for you.

>>933885
Something something erosion of rights rant. It kinda makes sense for poaching, but for something relatively minor that's pretty fucked.

I wonder if something like that has happened and the person took game and fish to court.

>>933887
Well I know it's possible, but probably pretty hard to do on a kayak.

>>933888
All you have to do it have a certain blood alcohol content and you can get a felony or if you cause an accident and someone is hurt or dies.

All said it would probably be like 10 grand in legal fees and fines. No joke.

If you shoot a squirrel or take a fish out of season they can take you boat, atv, truck, anything used to aid in the act of poaching including rifles, reels, equipment, etc...

I have seen it happen to guys taking extra snook out of slot. Pretty funny stuff. Some idiot was surf fishing and hiding them under beach sand while he caught more. All his shit got confiscated.

Weed will cause civil forfeiture too. You actually don't even have to be guilty. Just the suspicion of poaching or crime is enough for them to take your shit.

Think about that next time you keep a fish a half inch too small. All it takes is officer 2 inch cock to have been recently divorced to ruin your life.

>>933865
thats one of my worries, that I will end wanting another one as soon as I started using this one, I am looking for a friend or someone who has one that I can borrow.

>>933868
A sit in is ok for fishing? I dont care about being the fastest, as long as is not a log, and I am not doing anything crazy with it.

>>933869
Well, I actually live on the mexican side of the lake amistad, so no DUI, as a matter of fact, the lake is a drinking zone where you dont get in trouble for public intoxication, as long as you behave, if you are out of the line, you may be end dealing with the army, not just the cops.

>>933873
I will check it,

>>933879
Well, I may spend the night at the lake, I am not leaving the beer alone, see above, no officers here. No tossing cans, either, I care about the place.

>>933890
Not sure if I can confirm, but I have seen auctions of fishing equipment made by the city.

Thanks a lot guys, this has been very helpful, at least I will take more time researching this.

>>933902
I wonder if the wall will bisect the lake or if they'll just have gunboats constantly patrolling the border there.

>>933903
they have boats patrolling,

>>933902
What a surprise. A Mexican is a drunk piece of shit who kayaks around with 24 beers.

Kys if you're white. You're disgusting.

>>933903
We can only hope.

>>933906
Do they hassle you as soon as you start entering US waters or only if you're getting too close to the shore?

>>933890
>All you have to do it have a certain blood alcohol content and you can get a felony
Not here, first time offense is always a class B misdemeanor. Unless you're over the limit with a child under 15 in the car, or like you said, you hurt or kill someone.

>Weed will cause civil forfeiture too.
I really don't understand how that would be constitutional. My fishing rods aren't related to the crime at all. It makes a lot of sense for poaching, but still very questionable without having a conviction.

I'm not saying you're wrong and it's not technically legal, just that it seems like a massive infringement on the 4th amendment.

>You actually don't even have to be guilty. Just the suspicion of poaching or crime is enough for them to take your shit.

>officer tries to take my stuff when I didn't do a crime
>grand theft + forcable felony
>shoot
>claim syg
>get ass raped in prison

There's no winning in this world

>>933907
Dude, you are wrong, Im a piece of shit who WANTS to kayaks around with 24 beers,

>>933909
They hassle you as soon as you start entering US waters, actually I think they arrest you and all.

I start to feel the hate around here.

>>933912
>thinking civil forfeiture is constitutional

It's not but because you are committing a crime you loose certain rights according to the government.

>>933916
Kill yourself.

Build wall now.

>>933917
So if you go to court and you're not convicted of the crime then do they have to give your shit back? Because according to our justice system, everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

>>933919
Lol. You can try but it's not going to happen.

They even seize cash.

Google it. It's hilarious it's even legal. It's state sanctioned robbery. How do you think your podunk police station affords those chargers.

>>933881
This is half bullshit. Atleast for Texas law.

If the yak does not have a motor of at least 15hp it is not a boat.

You can still get a public intoxication charge if you are drunk. But as that is under state law and not fish and wildlife laws they can't take your gear.

Pages 19, 52, 53 of the outdoor annual

>>933924
Nope.

It's a watercraft subject to law like any vehicle. Same as a bicycle with no motor.

Go try it out and let me know how it goes for you.

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>>933902
>A sit in is ok for fishing? I dont care about being the fastest, as long as is not a log, and I am not doing anything crazy with it.

I haven't had any real problems. It can be kind of cramped after awhile.

>>933917
No I definitely think it's unconstitutional, which is why I was having a hard time believing you.

I'm not sure why I'm surprised it's not like the government cares about the constitution anyway.

>>933924
Neat. I need to read that again.

Although, I wouldn't put it above someone with a chip on their shoulder to try it.

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>>933926
>>933924

Read up. You're fucked lol. He's right.


https://www.texasobserver.org/preying-innocent-civil-forfeiture/

Also pic related.

>>933929
Ok, now i will consider a sit in on my list.

>>933926
Wrong, in Texas a BWI is only issued for motorized craft (boats, personal watercraft, motorized ski board) and sailboats. Row boats, canoes, kayaks, and innertubes that are propelled only by human power don't fall under BWI laws. If you're drunk off your ass in a canoe or kayak then you can still get arrested for public intoxication but you can't get a BWI.

>>933939
You tell yourself that. If you cause a problem or an accident of any kind you're getting a DUI. A DUI doesn't even have to be over the legal limit. It's up to the discretion of the officer.

You could get one on a fishing inner tube.

Even just having your car keys on you while I the kayak is enough because it proves your intention. To trailer out and drive home.

You get a DUI if you fall asleep I'm your parked car too.

Go try it out and let me know how it goes.

>>933940
ok

>>933941
I'm not joking. If you have your car keys on you and you're in a kayak drunk as fuck you WILL get a DUI. Even walking outside of a bar with the keys in your pocket could fuck you if you don't leave them with the bar.

It's bullshit but I'm not lying.

>>933912
>>933916
>>933917
>>933924
>>933926
>>933929
>>933930
>>933939
>>933940
>>933941
Can we stop shitting up the thread with legal faggotry and talk about fishing?

Anyone actually gone out fishing lately?
I bagged some squid last trip but it was a bust otherwise, have some squid I've left out to get stinky and am gonna go target some stingrays this weekend, should be good.

>>933943
Sting rays are garbage and you are garbage.

>>933945
Stingers and small sharks are fun as fuck on a kayak and you're mad about being wrong, sucks to be you m8.

>>933879
Hey fag with the rod up your ass, I clearly stated as long as you're not actually drunk your fine. Don't tell me how the laws in my state work, when you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about because you act like everywhere has the same laws
>Be this fag
>RRREEEEEEE I can't drink on my kayak
>So nobody else can
>No you can't drink on kayaks, or smoke weed or they'll confiscate everything
>I watched tv so I'm a game warden now
I think you're the only sjw I've ever seen in here

>>933947
Again. You do not have to be over the legal limit to get a DUI/BWI etc etc

You just have to have the potential to enact in one. It is up to the discretion of the officer. If that officer is a dick you're fucked.

I don't know why you think I'm lying.

If you engage in that you can have your shit taken by civil forfeiture especially if it's a drug other than alcohol like weed.

Read the link that was posted. You have no property rights according to Texas law unless you own land. They can't take your house. That's it. And even then there are things you could do that could lead to the state being able to take it if you fucked up bad enough or they wanted to build a high way and eminent domained you or you owed the state that much money.

Stop being a dumb red neck.

>>933957
>Stop being a dumb red neck
The irony is you call me dumb, but never once did I say I was from Texas and I'm not you dumb redneck. I don't know why think you're an all knowing game warden when clearly you don't have any real life experience other than what you've read online. I know I can't get get drunk, but I am legally allowed to drink beer on my kayak. Maybe get out of Commiefornia and learn what freedom is

>>933962
Lol what? This entire convo has been about that guy in Texas with trip who has Texas in his name you tard.

All the information I have stated about drunk driving and boating and the potential to cause a DUI is the way it is in every state, a good majority of Europe, and Asia. You can't even be over .02 in south Korea. You're a dumb ass.

Mexico isn't a real country. You can rape a girl and pay the cops 10 dollars and get away with it. If you're that Mexican guy trying to buy a kayak stop talking you're not a real person. Enjoy dying in a cartel raid or shoot out with your 4th grade education.

>>933879
>>933965
Clearly isn't directed towards anyone going to Texas. You're just a sjw who is butt hurt that you were wrong and have to try to make false claims to feel better about yourself because you don't actually known what you're talking about. You are literally the only person on this board I've ever seen with a rod shoved up their ass this far.

>>933971
Stay mad

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>legit thinking of selling the boat and getting one of these

I hardly take the boat out any more and these seem much more convenient to load onto the roof and just go to the rivers or buy a trolley for it and walk it down to the lake.

>>933996
Get a hobie pro angler or the faster narrow one that's not the pro angler. Don't remember the name.

You can literally walk around on the pro angler and stand on the bow.

>>933976
Stay cucked

>>934001
Not surprising you're a cuck poster. Just how much black bass on white bass porn do you have saved on your computer you degenerate?

>>934000
But muh going backwards, also the prop tucks up under the yak when going over snags, of which there are plenty in the river here. Just wish they still weren't so fucking expensive.

>>934004
The new Hobie mirage drive goes backwards. You pull a cord and the flippers reverse and you have instant reverse drive.

Hobie has much more useful fishing accessories.

>>934006
>>934004
You can literally pip the hobie flippers out and set them on the floor with two tabs. Then you use your paddle. Make sure the paddle is tethered to the boat in some way.

>>933957
You are beyond help retarded.

>>934006
Damn that sounds neat, but looking at the Price, shit I thought Native Watercraft were expensive.

>>934008
If I wanted to use the paddle at all I wouldn't even consider a pedal powered Yak.

>>934012
You should always have a paddle. Foot driven components break at some point no matter the brand or drive system.

Also it's expensive because it's better. That simple.

>>933862
>Sit on top fishing kayaks are a massive compromise

how are they a compromise in salt water?
>every person i know uses one in salt.
what kayak do you fish?
where?

>>933879
>>fishing poles, kayak, and all equipment taken to be sold to fund game and fish

thats for poaching. also you talk like a fag.
>420 blaze it nigga!!

>>934022
They aren't, unless you are strictly touring and not worried about doing anything else. SOTs have more room and if it gets flipped you can flip it back over instead of having to drag it to shore if possible

>>934027
>you can flip it back over instead of having to drag it to shore if possible
What is a bilge pump?
I think you've got it the wrong way around, many SOT kayaks are difficult or impossible to drain if they take on water far offshore unless they have a back hatch that you can pump out water from.
You're many times more likely to sink a SOT, Draining it at sea without a pump is also much more difficult also.

>>933940
He could be right. You can get DUIs while riding a bicycle in certain places. And you can get DUIs under .08 too, often times when people mix booze with other drugs and are visibly fucked up and fail the field sobriety tests.

A DUI on a kayak does seem a little overboard. But I could believe it since a lot of state and local gov'ts are trying to come down hard on drunk boating. A few year back IL had a really bad summer with drunk boaters getting people killed and they got really strict with alcohol and boats.

But you also have to remember- the police can arrest you for basically any bullshit with little reason and it is up to you to prove yourself "not guilty" in court. Good ol' USA.

>>933940
Can confirmed for sleeping in parked car. I have interlock because of that shit too.

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>>934069
You had the keys in the ignition, didn't you?

A few year back, my buddy dropped his girl off at her house after drinkin and they got in a fight or some shit so for some reason he ended up passing out in his car in front of her house. His window was down and he woke up to a cop reaching through the window shaking him to try and wake him up. He was half asleep and all drunk and freaked out and threw a punch at the cop. Ended up getting arrested for DUI and assaulting an officer and the second charge got dropped luckily but he still got the DUI.

>>934071
Yeah I had the radio on with no intentions of going anywhere. It got a legitimate dui when I was 16 though so I got the book thrown at me. No longer drink.

>>934071
>>934069
I know a guy who was arrested for drunk driving. Here's the thing. He was not in his vehicle when the cops arrived (fictitious report of someone firing off a firearm). He was at a family campsite, on private property. They wanted proof of ID which he had in his truck. He crawled into the bed of the truck under the truck's topper to get the ID. As soon as he entered the truck they arrested him. He lost his truck. He was in holding and they impounded the truck and had an auction in the morning. The truck was auctioned for $500 to one of the officers.

It was a "2014 Ford F-450 Super Duty King Ranch Crew Cab 8ft Bed DRW 4WD" and was brand new with only a couple thousand miles on it and all tricked out; worth $43k at the time I think.

He was released and all charges were dropped. He never got his truck back, but he did get $500.

>>934087
>letting an officer onto private property
>not having your property fenced off

Shiggy

you guys sure know how to shit up a thread

clinton shoulda won

>>934000
>You can literally walk around on the pro angler and stand on the bow.

Depending entirely in your weight and experience standing on Kayaks. 160 lbs guys can do things on many kayaks that 200lbs guys and 240lbs guys can't.

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>>934140
Kek are you mad the First Lady is gonna be attractive for once?

>>934032

He's not talking about taking water through a hole in the hull or something, but taking water in the cockpit from the simple act of flipping over.

And if you're offshore in any kayak, you can take a bilge pump for emergencies. You'll only need one for a SOT in the most dire of situations, but Sit-Ins generally make more use of them.

Then there's having the bait bucket/tackle, other gear and trying to land a fish in your lap when your lap. All easier in a SOT.

>>933996
I thought about getting a fishing kayak but ended up buying a boat instead. I'm glad I got the boat, I enjoy fishing with friends and can always find at least one other person to go with me on a weekend.

>>934087
Sounds like bullshit but anything's possible I guess. He should've gotten a better lawyer.

>>934151
Is that weight supposed to be your anchor?

>>934165
Lmao it is and it works really well

>>934169
You're a genius

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>>934087
sounds like bullshit. none of it makes sense.

>fishing thread
>no one talking fishing
>
>

>>934170
I wish I could say it was my idea. I was looking at some Gucci kayaks in Backwoods (like a mini rei) and talking to one of the employees about mine and that I hated how much the wind blew me around. He suggest a 2.5lb weight, but I went with a 5lb just to be safe and it has worked well.

I have a caribeaner at the front that the rope goes through and then one by me that I use to tie off the anchor.

>>934151
Bill clinton would be way better first lady than any other first lady.

>>934151
Michelle ain't too bad when she has the white girl hair goin.

>>934159
There's just such a huge difference in cost and effort between the two so I can understand why anon would trade his boat for a kayak. I don't think I will ever own another boat unless I live on the water.

With my jet skis, it was just such a pain to take them out unless the weather was good (lol Chicago) AND you had the entire day free. Gotta start getting them ready at like 9am, round up whoever is going with, hook the trailer up, gas them up, get to the lake by noon, it's close to 1pm by the time you even really get going in the water, fuck around for a couple hours and get some lunch, get back to launch at 4pm, drain em, put em on the trailer, put on dry clothes and it's 6pm when you get home. Unhook the trailer, store em, take a shower, eat some dinner and it's time for bed.

They were fun as hell but especially in Chicago it's so hard to find a Saturday or Sunday with nice weather where you can waste the entire day on them. I would take them out 2 or 3 times a summer and it's just easier and cheaper to rent them for a day.

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>>934199
I understand completely.. It's a bit of a pain getting the boat ready, I usually spend 30 minutes to an hour doing that before anyone else arrives. I'll run a battery charger on the batteries the night before to make sure they're not gonna be dead once we get to the water. I have to make sure that I have an extra 5gal can full of gas as well as 2 stroke mixing oil and I also have to make sure the trailer lights work. It's a hassle launching and hauling the boat out, especially if the ramp is busy or if it's windy. Maintenance on the boat and motor take time and money and paying for boat & trailer registration every 2 years is a couple hundred dollars. I have an old deckboat that's pretty difficult to load back on the trailer considering how flat it is, it doesn't self-center much at all so the trailer has to be at the perfect depth and I have to make a nice, straight shot when hitting the trailer. It's almost impossible to load it without 2 people so I never really take it out by myself.

Luckily I live in East Texas and we have good weather most of the year. Even in the dead of winter there are many days where it's sunny and in the 70's. Also, there are lots of nice lakes near me that take less than 30 mins to get to, and many more within an hour's drive. I'll usually get up at 7am, get a quick shower and get the boat and my fishing gear ready, friends arrive around 8am and we're on the lake fishing by 9am, 9:30am at the latest usually, that includes stopping at a donut shop to get donuts and sausage kolaches on the way to eat once we're on the lake. I have plenty of shop space so I can keep the boat inside at my house, that way I don't have to drive to a storage facility to pick it up.

The boat is MUCH more of a hassle than a kayak would be, that's for sure. If I was fishing solo most of the time then I'd probably get a fishing kayak but I have 2-3 friends who are always down to go fishing so the boat is worth the extra hassle to me.

>>934199
>I don't think I will ever own another boat unless I live on the water.

I reached the same conclusion too. My current situation means I just don't have many people I can go fishing with often enough to justify a boat.

My dad got one of those small Bass Raider boats with a trolling motor, but even that requires 2 people and a pick-up truck to haul around. And since it has a trolling motor, he had to get it registered. And it still ended up costing as much as a decent kayak.

I can sling my kayak on the roof of my Toyota and launch anywhere by myself. I've even started kayak fishing before work. Not too hard considering I don't go in until 1pm. I doubt it'd be worth the time and effort on a boat, though.

Plus I got a friend who does a lot of kayak fishing in Galveston.

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>>934206
Of course I bought it as a project and had to do several weekends worth of work + put around $1500 extra into it before it was even ready for the water. My friend and I cut out the whole floor which was rotten, took out all the foam underneath which was saturated and just dead weight, replaced all the rotten main beams with treated lumber, replaced the floor with exterior grade plywood, made all new seats, had to build a new console, re-wired everything and installed new LED headlights, had to replace all the hatch covers with exterior plywood, installed some homemade rod holders and rod storage, beefed up the transom with a 1/4" aluminum plate, had to put a new power pack on the motor, new batteries and fuel lines..... All in all the boat cost me about $3k and a lot of elbow grease before it was "lake ready".

>>934208
>>cost me about $3k

Yeah, at that point, I would have just bit the bullet and got a Hobie Angler kayak.

Still looks like fun, though.

>>934209
I mean, it's a $3k boat + trailer (paid $1500 for boat + trailer, put another $1500 into it during the refurb) that will fish 4 people comfortably. That's pretty cheap for a decent sized boat.

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>>934209
You can't really compare it to a kayak in that respect. If you are going to actually get the boat in the water a lot, it's totally worth it. Mostly for the girls.

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>>934140
kek get the fuck outta here. Youre on 4chan (90% trump supporter) in /out/ (90% trump) in a fishing thread (90% trump)

>>934207
>My current situation means I just don't have many people I can go fishing with often enough to justify a boat
Fish by yourself?

>>934212
>tfw my boat is old and ugly and no qt's ever come fishing with me

Eh.. catching catfish and drinking beer with a couple of buddies out on the water is still a lot of fun.

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>>934225
Idk man, this girl might be my favorite and she is always on this shitty boat

>>934230
Haha, nice. I've had a few girls show interest in coming out on the boat before but they're always like "I wanna go plaaaaaay" and for me boat time = srs business fishing time so I'm not sure how much fun they'd have. Just cruising around on the lake doesn't do much for me, I want to have lines in the water as much as possible and only fire up the motor to go from fishing spot to fishing spot.

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>>934235
I think there was some Mexican dude named Jesus who had a story about teaching chicks to fish. Didn't end well for Jesus when Maria stole his boat and caught all the fish for herself.

>>934230
Get rid of that hat and you gotta keeper

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>>934106
>>934162
>>934173
That's nothing at all. I keep the worst to myself. No one would ever believe. You learn to keep your head down and don't attract attention here.

>>933666
>Nexave
satanic 666 chek'd
yep, got the 1000 & the 4000
Worth $25 IMHO. Of course I probably won't put line on them for a month or 2 still and have to figure out what rods to pair them with. The 4k might just live in my pack as a backup, or my wife may steal one of them. She liked the feel.

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>>934047
Yeah I don't know why people think I'm bull shitting about the DUI and civil forfeiture stuff. All these tards have to do is Google it. A lot of DUI, drug law, and civil forfeiture law is not even written as "proof beyond a reasonable doubt". It's written as something called "a preponderance of the evidence" which means they only have to prove it's 50% plus any percent over that equals guilt. Meaning an officers suspicion and word in court already equals the 50% of the guilt needed to be proven. All they have to do is provide any percent over that... even fractions of a percent and you are guilty and your civil forfeiture is justified. I used to live in Illinois and live out west now I recall that kid getting run over and killed by a boater in the chain of lakes/fox lake that was drunk and high on coke that spurred the new enforcement. It's hilarious they think it couldn't happen in texas.

>>934069
Thank you for proving my point. I still don't understand why everyone is so butt mad at me. I'm just trying to save people their hobby equipment, truck, and money. This is why people get fucked over. They don't know the law.

>>934087
Oh yeah. Welcome to the world of civil property rights and the lack of "beyond a reasonable doubt" to seize property. People don't know the law. You should all take this guy's story seriously or you can say goodbye to a truck and boat or kayak or gear.

>>934106
Doesn't matter. If it's withing view it's theirs if they want it or believe it to be part of the violation in any way. Again, preponderance of the evidence. Read above. It's fucked up.

>>934240
Tell us the worst of it mate. Officer on your wife gang rapes and murders or what?

>>934251
That's exactly the same thing I was talking about on the Chain O' Lakes. Maybe 5 years ago, possibly a little more. Before that you didn't even need to take a boater safety course to drive boats in IL. You just needed a valid DL or be 18 or if underage I think you could take a course if you wanted to drive a boat.

I took the jet skis on the Fox River a lot and there were always cops on the water on busy weekends but after that kid died they were going pretty hard. I think there had been a handful of other boating accidents right around that time too but not as serious and all that stuff together made them clamp down.

>>934262
Yep I remember. The dude was some rich guy in a speed boat and he was hauling ass WITH NO LIGHTS on the boat and went through a swimming area or some shit right? Like it was at dusk on the sand bar that everyone parties on or something? Maybe that was a different one. A couple people died that year during the housing crisis. Everyone was hitting the booze and drugs hard.

Maybe he ran the kid over while he was water tubing. I don't remember. Just recall the kid dying and he was drunk and on coke. I guess I could Google it but whatever it doesn't matter and that's not the point. The point is since 2008 DUI law has gotten EXTREME especially in new Mexico and Arizona.

The chain and lake Michigan are the only thing about Illinois I miss Illinois. Especially the early fall salmon and trout and fishing for tailing carp in spring flood water. Everything else can go fuck off lol.

I have seen so much dumb shit happen on the chain of lakes on jet skis, boats, and snow mobiles during the ice season. Multiple people from high schools I sort of knew about died or got super hurt.

No one gives a fuck. It's sad.

>>934251
I can promise you, if a cop tried to do that without a warrant they would get shot. And if you really want me to I'll find the cases where people have done this, and won the trial.

>>934269
In a no knock raid on the wrong home you could get away with it and a few have been charged not guilty but...... If an officer identified himself to you and told you to put your hands up and you shot him because "muh property" you are going to enjoy some 25 to life with a bit of ass pounding and maybe a death sentence. You can't just smoke crack or weed on your front porch because you're behind a fence dude.

Anything within plain view of a violation is able to be inspected and searched. A joint roach in your cup holder or a brillo pad is enough to cause no warrant needed search and seizure. Once that is done within an hour a warrant is issued for even more search of they find ant remotely incriminating evidence. Even in Texas.

>>934271
Jesus typos. My bad. On mobile.

>>934217

Yep.

Fishing by myself right now.

>>934273
I'm that way because no one gives a fuck to go with me. All anyone cares about is Corona and 4 wheeling in the desert.

>>934271
No, I've definitely told cops to fuck off (in nicer words) because they don't have a warrant. I can drive drunk all I want to on my property. They have no legal right to be there.

Obviously I'm talking about if I 100% have not committed a crime. I'm not saying you can smoke weed and kill a minority in front a cop then be like "lol where's ur warrant Bruh"


>>934273
No I meant use your boat by yourself lol

>>934276

No I don't use a boat by myself. It's why I ended up getting a kayak.

Thinking I'm going to go to the river tomorrow and throw some spoons , small jerkbaits, crankbaits and soft plastics to see what I can get

Cold temps along with low water etc means I probably won't find trout, but maybe will find rock bass or small mouth ,perch etc

Or maybe skunk

>>934276
I would say that most of the time you would be fine on private property but I just don't see the point in actively trying to ruin my life by doing anything dangerous drunk. Officer Joe blow divorce my wife's son and credit card debt can ruin a life to easily

They need to stick just shooting minorities and leave us alone but whatever.

>>934213
well im the 10% bitch

>>934289
Just end your life.

help me pick a spot for tomorrow

>1
good access
Right below riffle
one deepish spot
smallmouth, rockbass, small posibility of trout

>2
crackpark
one deep hole
very limited access without waiding
best chance of nailing trout here

>3
small spot
decent access
right below riffle
smallmouth and trout possible
also only place ive ever seen a bowfin in this river in particular
desu il probably end up hitting all 3 or atleast 2 of them but i want to know where to go first

>>934296
Crack park. Just bring a gun.

>>934199
>>934206
>>934207

>not preordering this
https://youtu.be/cHR74wXVuus

>>934298
its not really a crack park anymore, used to be
its mostly a small limited access park where some people go to smoke weed and drink
but its too cold for any degenerates to be out drinking/smoking

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Newbie here, what is the "official" name of this fish?

Everyone I know calls them white trout but when I google white trout they really don't look that similar.

Went out and caught this one and about 15 more of them. This one though, has like it's skin peeling off towards its mouth. Not sure if it's from someone ripping a hook out of it's mouth or maybe an illness?

>>934291
tell me where u live bitch and say it to my face

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>>934309
>nu-male beta threatening violence

top kek

>>934307
Where are you located? Where was the fish caught? Did it have any darker stripes running the length of the fish or was it a solid color?

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Yuro! I need moar of those Sebile lures but too lazy to order them online. Send me moar! Or at least tell me a retailer nearby that carries them!

>>934268
Yeah the Chain O' Lakes and the Fox River can be kinda a clusterfuck on the few summe weekends with nice weather. The wakeboardere, water skiers, and kids on tubes are probably one of the worst parts tho. Those lakes and especially the river aren't that big.

I remember being on the river a few years back on a nice Sunday on Memorial Day weekend and it was a clusterfuck. Some dude in a big ass ocean sized speedboat would cruise through at like 40mph and the wake would send tidal waves from shore to shore for like 5min, then we would be rippin on the jet skis at like 50mph and all of a sudden boat full of kids towing a wakeboard would come around the bend and fling the kid off the rope right in front of us. That was always fun because jet skis don't turn when you let off the throttle so when you're cruising and some kids who fell off a tube appear out of nowhere, you just have to turn the bars and gas it and fly around them and they freak out.

>>934309
He's right you know.

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>>933842
Lifetime shill here, the tamarack angler is 10 ft, very stable, had a weight limit of about 450 lbs and a price tag of 400-500 new. Get yourself one.

>>934309
Hahahaha. Come get me in Arizona fag. Myself and everyone has a gun on then at all times.

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>>934318
Looks like my local Bass Pro at least has those smaller guys in but they aren't quite the same. They are in the saltwater section tho which explains why I have never seen them. Might have to stop by there this weekend.

>>934328
>>934328
Do those even work? Always saw then but was like fuck that. The huge ones are retarded.

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>>934331
These are the ones I want. I just lost the one Yuro got me. It has been my favorite lure lately. I just hate ordering lures online so much. $7 shipping and it will take a week to get them. I would gladly spend the money on gas and drive an hour if I could get them tonight.

>>934212

Wife doesn't care much for boating and if I wanted to hook up with other girls, there are lots of cheaper ways.

>>933736
Well done! Trying to decide between a Lamiglas Insane surf and a St Croix UL right now. I'll get both before spring I'm sure.
I have to find me a fluke spot around here. Pulled a few out and lost a nice doormat right before I got it up on the jetty last year.

>>934299

I was looking at that thing, but transporting it is still comparable to any small 2 man boat, and you still need to get it registered.

>>934307

If you're on the Gulf Coast, that's a Sand Trout.

>>933744
Salt is the shizz....
>>933786
>blitz
Makes life worth living. Being in a blitz, especially bluefish is amazing. All that bait turns to bloody/oily water.>>933796
>how it this kayak
Saw others replied but I'll add my .02
If you want to stand (I see you don't) and fish, go WIDE. I have a Feelfree Lure 13.5 and love it. Heavy as fuck but super stable and once it's moving it will speed pretty well unless I hit a rip. Not cheap but also not Hobie spendy. Seat is +++
Absolutely recommend sit on top over sit in's.
>>933879
>No one has ever died because they were drinking alone on a boat voyage
I laughed
>>933902
>one that I can borrow
Look for places that sell that are on water. Most will also rent but will let you take out to try if you appear to be shopping.

>>933918
The way I read it he is quite content on the Mexico side and isn't trying to steal your job. Chill out dude.

>>934333
Get amazon prime dude

>>934358
i feel like id be spooked to be bare waiding in the middle of a bluefish blitz
especially if my dick was in the water

i need that shit

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>>934367
I have Prime. But little shit like that and they charge $10-$12 for a $7 lure but give you """free""" 2-day shipping.

I'll probably just order them from Tackle Warehouse one of these days. They have them with the regular treble setup too. The one I lost was 50mm, but there is also 66mm so I'm thinking about that. That gold shad color looks like it could be my favorite but that ghost one worked really well and the firetiger and lime could be good too. I need to get like two of each color I like in each size with he different hook setups. So probably like 50 of them. At least if I ordered $400 worth of them, I could get the cheap overnight shipping!

>>934375
Free t shirt and bumper sticker too

>>934375
pepsi go buy a ultralight rippin rap
shits nice

>>934326
where in arizona bitch? time and place bring your shitty glock

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>>934378
I have a couple of those. I was going to mention those are probably the closest I have. But those Sebiles don't rattle and they have that weedless hook setup.

Plus the Rippin Raps are tricky to find in a lot of colors and sizes. I think I have two or three of them. Might have to toss one on while I debate whether or not to order the Sebiles.

I would love to find smaller Red-Eye Shads too. The dark red one here is the little bit smaller size but not the same. Plus that little 2" Sebile at 3/8oz launches when you cast it.

>>934206
Fuck I miss kolaches. No one in NC knows what they are.

>>934379
You're gay. Meet me in the Academy parking lot on Sunday.

2600 W University Dr
Denton, TX 76201

>>934379
I carry a steyr fag. Kill yourself with your objectively inferior Beretta storm or nano in pink paint you're gay tranny ass probably owns. Meet you at Tempe town lake.

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>>934392
There's a mattress outlet there. Perfect for you two. Once you two, have worked up an appetite, you can eat at the Cowboy Chicken.

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>>934395
>I carry a steyr fag
Aren't you a snowflake?

But seriously which one? I've been looking at them and they look neat.

>>934396
Shhh he'll catch on

>>934399
The compact one. It's the S9-A1 in 9mm

Fits my hand better than glocks and smiths and doesn't rub my hip weird. I'm not fat or anything but grip texture on certain guns sucks for all day carry

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I'm in the sc coast, am going to a pier tomorrow to fish since it's been a month since I went out on my kayak and it calls for on and off thunder storms, so no kayaks. The water temp is right at 55 and we're going to mainly try to target sheepshead around the pillars with clams and fiddlers, if we can get some.
Does anyone think they'll be active, should I even try to throw any kind of lures? Any other pier fishing advice would be appreciated

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>tfw all out of epoxy

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>>934343

I have a lamiglas insane surf and its much nicer than my penn battalion surf rod, although i havent actually used it yet. Waiting until the spring ans the bass start migrating to try it out.

It has a really interesting guide layout, has a nice long handle, really light and a super soft tip. I think im gonna enjoy it.

>old dink post

>>933468
Next thread picture right here.

>>934453
How can i make the mini lathe? That stuuf looks great

You guys sure know about baits that catch fish but forget about the ones that catch people ITT

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Got me a little wrasse off the harbor wall in Christchurch, New Zealand. Sharp little teeth.

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>>934503
It is pretty easy, depending on what you want to make on the lathe.

https://www.google.com/search?q=diy+lathe

Mine is just a small DC motor, strapped to a board with soup can metal, with the wood shoved onto the motor shaft with a sharpened screw head in the other end of the wood. I use a Dremel to shape the wood. I use a drop of oil on the screw point to keep the wood from squealing. The hole in the wood on the motor shaft side is slightly smaller than the shaft so that it fits tightly onto the shaft.

Since I use a Dremel instead of chisels, the lathe doesn't need to have much torque. It just needs to spin. For chisels, the wood rolls towards you, but for a Dremel the wood rolls away from you. Don't use a Dremel on a lathe that rolls the wood towards you because it can catch and fuck you up. The black paint allows the profile of the wood piece to stand out a lot better for visibility.

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>>934515
Fishermen are some of the biggest consumer whores you'll ever meet. Their lack of knowledge is easily preyed upon through mystery, superstition, anecdotal evidence, and outright lies. You really only need a small range of lures, in a small range of colors, to cover the conditions you meet and the target fish you want. The fly fishing term, "match the hatch", normally applies to all forms of fishing. That is, your lure should represent whatever the fish are eating normally at the time you are fishing. While there are always exceptions, those exceptions don't add up consistently over time.

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>>934636
Now that's some quality b8.

Plus it's winter and too cold to go outside for lots of those fags so they spend their time shopping for fishin shit.

What are some lies about fishing? Or very sceptical theories that shouldn't be considered true?

I've heard alot of info lately as a novice angler.

>>934636
>You really only need a small range of lures...

Psh, tool. You only need hooks, line, and maybe swivel/weights as the situation dictates.

>> That is, your lure should represent whatever the fish are eating normally at the time you are fishing.

And nothing beats giving the fish what they're actually eating.

>>934665
Everything. It isn't an exact science so most of the tips and tricks you hear will only work in specific situations. Nothing will ever be the correct way to do something 100% of the time.

Best way to learn good tips and tricks is by asking people who are fishing the same spots as you and have years of experience. And then get some experience of your own.

>>934673
That's what I always tell new people. Aberdeen hooks, split shots, bobbers, and whatever bait is the best way to start out. And if they want to venture into lures, a natural colored Rapala and Mepps in the correct size will go a long way.

I just have fishing ADHD

want to go out fishing today but dont know where to go
all lakes are frozen but not frozen enough
river are low and rough sumer means less fish

also is cold and dreary

>>934665
>>What are some lies about fishing? Or very sceptical theories that shouldn't be considered true?

That it's expensive. Like any hobby, you can spend a shitload on it, and there are of course those people who enjoy talking about the latest toys and snub their noses at cheaper geat. But good fishing is really more about locating the fish, getting the presentation right, and knowing how to play/land them. Gear can help, but even if you have the "best" rod, reel, line, and lures if you're fishing the wrong places at the wrong time in the wrong way, you're not gonna catch shit.

Now don't get me wrong, there's some low quality stuff out there that will crap out on you/limit you. But there are plenty of known quality manufacturers that make cheap but very decent stuff. I'm a big fan of Shimano in that regard. My rod/reels set ups cost less than 30 bucks each and have handled plenty of 20+ lbs fish.

Turtles may eat your crippled/dyring/dead live bait. They do not, however, eat healthy fish. They will not "eat all the fish". You don't have to kill them.

>>934665
>>934703

And while we're on the subject of reptiles...

Turtles don't have to wait until they hear the sound of thunder to release a bite. Thunder doesn't matter. I've been bitten by a turtle on a rainy day. Lightning struck, thunder roared, and the turtle didn't let go. I've been bitten by turtles on bright sunny days who immediately let go.

Oh, and Cottonmouths (venomous with a painful and rarely fatal bite) vs Watersnakes (non-venomous and completely harmless). I'll spare you on markings because unless you really know what you're looking for most people can't tell the difference. There are, however, telltale behavioral differences and common misconceptions...

1) A Cottonmouth swims almost entirely on top of the water. They don't go under. Watersnakes will swim with the majority of their bodies under water and just a bit of their back breaking the surface. Cottonmouths are actually much less aquatic than watersnakes and prefer to hang out near the bank rather than be out in the middle of the water.

2) Both snakes can seem somewhat fearless if you expect every snake to flee you at twenty paces. Watersnakes are hungry/greedy little fuckers and some learn that fishermen mean discarded baitfish. They may approach you, but will generally flee if they think you're after them. Cottonmouths, likewise, if threatened, may stand their ground and open their mouths to bluff you away, but will generally flee if pressed. Neither, however, will actually chase you. Trust me, I catch these guys all the time, and if they actually chased you, it'd be much easier on my part.

cont...

>>934706

3) Cottonmouths don't swarm. That story about the skier who ran into a nest are bunk. An Animal Planet reality show once infamously had to dump a bunch of Cottonmouths into a pool so the star could deal with this issue because it doesn't happen in real life. Watersnakes don't swarm either, but are a bit more tolerant of each other than Cottonmouths. Watersnakes are more tolerant of each other and you may see several sunning themselves on branches overhanging water or see multiple snakes active along a shoreline at once. They aren't operating as a group, though. You just have multiple individual snakes doing their own thing being drawn to the same ideal spot(s). As mentioned, Watersnakes are pretty smart, and if they see stuff splashing along the bank they may come investigate, and a Watersnake that's found some baitfish/frogs/food in the shallows makes a lot of splashing.

4) Cottonmouths don't drop into your boat. They suck at climbing. Watersnakes will drop into your boat, as they're not-that-bad climbers that like to bask in bushes and low hanging trees directly over water.

5) Cottonmouths may hold their ground and put on an impressive display, but they're actually not that aggressive. Watersnakes- while non-venomous- can become spastic and bitey little bastards when backed into a corner, and especially when you start poking or grabbing them. But snakes CANNOT JUMP. They can lunge with the forward 1/4 or 1/3 of their body, but we're talking about animals that max out at about 3 feet. They're not spring several feet to tag you.

Most of the impressions people have about these snakes comes from stories they heard and exaggerated encounters that are largely informed by the stories they heard.

>>934706
>>934713
Shooting sneks is fun

>>934673
>>934681
>being this pedantic

Anything you put on a hook is a lure.

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>>934663
>Now that's some quality b8.

Now that's some hardcore buyer's remorse.

>>934727
>>Talks about being pedantic
>>Tries to push a definition of "lure" that nobody actually uses

Look, I know you figure your way of fishing (minimalist by your standards) is the best and anybody who does more is doing it wrong.

But your horse isn't the highest in the land.

going to go fish the river
not going to bring a whole lot
wat lures to bring
sallmouth, perch, trout, rockbass

going to let you guys catch me fishes today

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>>934665
>>934681

Basically what Pepsi said, at the end of the day fishing is pretty much a luck based hobby.

I'm the guy that made the attached. And even me making that whole crazy list, I know that it really comes down to pure chance.

the only facts you can really follow with fishing is that there are specific times of the year when fish are feeding heavier than others. And certain times of the year when they are barely feeding.

Also, people love to use artificial lures. I'm one of those people. But you're probably better off with live baits when it comes to bass and it's cheaper.

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>>934756
Mepps™

Or X-Raps™

>>934765
I have one small mepps

Will post pics of what I have when I get there and let you pick watto use

>>934765
Do you even use those? I don't think I've seen you post a feesh you've caught with a jerkbait.

>>934765
I love jerk baits but never catch anything with them. I destroyed small mouth bass with them in the boundary waters in Wisconsin with them on a trip once.

Caught more walleye than I have ever personally seen there bottom bouncing grubs and leeches.

Would recommend you all try to go. Lifetime trip for fisherman.

>>934806
I mean Minnesota not Wisconsin guys

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>>934786
Yee. But I only use them for bass at certain times and half the time I take pics I pull the bait out before because the middle hook is stuck in their eye or belly or some bullshit

>>934842
I take my middle hooks off

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>>934673
>>934663
>You really only need a small range of lures...

Read this very slowly and let it sink in. Read it again. Then realize you are a consumer whore.

>>934921
I don't know about you guys, but the fun to me is actually catching the fish. If I wanted to just sit and watch dragon flies, I wouldn't take along the rod and reel.

You can be all hardcore and fish on a handline with a bent paperclip if you want, but the truth is that having an assortment of lures, baits, tactics, and techniques in your arsenal up the odds that you'll hook a fish. Different conditions call for different measures.

At the end of the days, it's a luck based numbers game, but you can do things that will give you a better chance.

>>934921
>stop liking what I don't like
Just cause you're poor and on a retarded high horse doesn't mean other people won't continue to purchase lures they think are cool/want to try catching fish on. 90% of the fun in fishing for me is trying new things.

Stay salty though bae.

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>tfw watched cars drive instead of fishin today
At least tomorrow is Sunday

>>934941
>tfw tropical storms in north Florida

I hope they go south and ruin your fishing too. If I can't go out no one can.
>REEEE

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>>934943
What kind of storms are those? If it's FL tropical weather, just give it half an hour and it will be sunny

>>934939
>>934932
You don't understand.

>You really only need a small range of lures...

That's like 20-30 lures max if you are fishing various species. More if you are doing saltwater. That's 5-8 lures per species. That covers the zones and lighting/clarity for each species. Beyond that and you are sucking proprietor cock and taking 2 more up your ass. It is like you read it as "you can only have 2 lures!!!!"

>>934954
Meh, fair point. I can behind that.

That's said, I agree with others who have said part of the fun is trying new things and challenging yourself to catch fish on new lures.

>>934954
Bruh you don't understand.

Some people just like having a variety of lures to chose from, whether or not a certain type of craw will catch more fish.

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>>934962
>>934963
Fishermen are some of the biggest consumer whores you'll ever meet. Their lack of knowledge is easily preyed upon through mystery, superstition, anecdotal evidence, and outright lies. You really only need a small range of lures, in a small range of colors, to cover the conditions you meet and the target fish you want. The fly fishing term, "match the hatch", normally applies to all forms of fishing. That is, your lure should represent whatever the fish are eating normally at the time you are fishing. While there are always exceptions, those exceptions don't add up consistently over time, kid.

>>934986
Yeah man, you said this already. Learn to troll better.

>>934986
Said like a true cock gobbling teenager jealous of men who can afford nice things

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>>934989
>>934999
>buyer's remorse

>>935018
What is that, a Baby Ruth?

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I have a fuckton of lure/soft plastics/kastmasters. I usually only try/use 1-3 on any given day because I only bring what I need for the target species/conditons/time of day.
Canal anglers are pretty funny, one person will catch something and shout out the color he's using. Everyone else will immediately change to that color.

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>>935018
>>935034

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>>935040

>>935034
My dad did that at the hotel pool on his honeymoon in Maui.

Caddyshack was his favorite movie.

Would 80 pound test split rings be strong enough for a surf/shark lure?

>>934999

It's also ironic that he'd reference fly fisherman as they're the kings of paying out the ass for gear and expensive fishing trips.

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bamp!

>>934806

Heh. I use jerk baits almost exclusively. Along with various topwaters, crankbaits, and swimbaits. I use live bait like 90% of the time though.

In the 20 years I've fished, I've actually never caught a fish while using a carolina rigged worm, spinnerbait, or jig. Crazy, right?

>>935094

Meh. I just use my hands.

>>935095
What the fuck how? Those lures are bomb proof certain times of year lol

>>934313
>using emoticons
>calling others numale

>>934663
Truth hurts, you're the biggest gear and brand whore in this thread faggot. You can't even say a sentence without mentioning a brand name.

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>>933632
>72-150qt cooler
>500+ gallon bilge pump
>Attach bilge pump to pvc pipe

I have a DIY version of pic and can keep 20lbs bullheads for catfishing or 30bs of bass alive all day even in 100F temps

>>934954
>That's like 20-30 lures max if you are fishing various species. More if you are doing saltwater.

I don't use any lures when saltwater fishing, as live and cut bait is just so fricken plentiful. A cast net or some size 8 or smaller hooks is the best thing you can invest in.

>>935148 liek this one? >>>933676

I ordered some of that stainless steel wire to make those power clips and for lures. How do I got about making those clips?

So far I've been actually catching fish on small tubes, like an inch long, on light jigs.

I'm guessing other fishing methods come into play once it switches to warmer seasons, such as crankbaits.

Are these as simple as just casting and retrieving? What should I know about the diving properties?

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>tfw first time using a cast net

Got some mullet

>>934212
... because of the implication ofc.

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i got a meme tier jack on a mirrolure catch 2000, pretty good mullet imitation.

>Pepsi still says mirrolures dont work
You have to give them action.

>>935132
Mepps™

>>935244
Idk I bought two of them and barely gave them a chance. I was expecting them to really move around like an injured fish but that didn't happen.

>tfw wanted to go out at sunrise today but just kept hittin snooze

>>935245
>use a loop knot, anything else will kill the action
>point your rod tip towards the water and give them short sharp jerks
>use a twitch twitch pause cadence if the fish aren't active, constant twitches if they're actively chasing baitfish

>>935250
I mostly bought then because I wanted the purple one. It's hard to find crankbaits in dark colors like black, purple, and blue that work well in dark and murky water.

>>935274
>tfw I know this feel
My first snook ever was on a black bomber, it's a shame they don't make black or purple x-raps. Rootbeer is a great night time color too.

>>935274
Get some ghost black yo-zuri's.

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>>935287

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>>935281
Exactly. I would love for some black or junebug color Husky Jerks or X-Raps. Idk why they haven't done it.

The only dark bass hardbaits I have seen are a few topwaters and then one time I saw one of those Yamamoto diving cranks at Walmart in this smoky black color with red flakes. I was really close to buying it but I'm not a fan of that style of diving crankbait. If it were a jerkbait or a lipless rattler, I definitely would've bought it.

I still want these Sebile baits. Where is TXfag, he seems to have tons of disposable income. I'm gonna pull a Skid and harass him to buy them for me. I mostly just wish I could find them at a nearby retailer.

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>>935290
That looks decent. I don't think I have ever seen that color in store.

I haven't used any Yo-Zuris in a minute. Now that the water is cooling off, I think I should break out some of those Crystal Minnows that I haven't used yet. I have that Pin's Minnow that Yuro got me too and I haven't even gotten that wet.

That Yo-Zuri popper in the pic has some incredible walking action too but I just never get to it since the Rapala Skitter Pops always end up on the line when I'm running a topwater.

>>935298
The gander mtn on northlake has tons of those lipless sebile's. Also, west marine carries them.

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>>935304
These ones? I didn't see them online

>>935306
Yup, the flatt shads but I don't remember them being snagless. I saw them when I was there last week.

>>935307
Damn I'm gonna take a shower and head up there. I hope you're right.

>>935309
Give them a call first.

>>935309
http://www.gandermountain.com/customerappreciation/?icID=HPR1

Don't forget this.

>20%
>instore and online

>>935311
Idc, I haven't been to Gander Mtn in like a year anyway so I might just go check out what they have. Last year around this time they had those bins full of clearance stuff too so it might be worth it if there is anything cool in there. Plus those Rapala lipless rattlers (the round, flat ones) are cool and I would grab some of those instead if they have them in different colors.

>>935315
They have them in stock in the saltwater section.

>>935314
Dank

>>935098
>What the fuck how? Those lures are bomb proof certain times of year lol

I use live bait 90% of the time and I can really work a jerk bait or swim bait like a wounded baitfish.

If most people work jerkbaits like >>935245, I can see the aversion to them.

I do what >>935250 and slay them. Looks just like an injured minnow/bluegill fleeing for its life.

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>>935311
They had that Sebile endcap with the "NEW!" signs all over it. Not a great selection, the only 50 size was the lime and they were all extra heavy and the 66 had 3 silver colors all in extra heavy. Maybe these things will start catching on and they will carry more.

They had the Red Eye Shads in a bunch of colors for the 1/4oz size and I was tempted to get on a bunch of those but I need to use the shit I have right now. Especially since I will barely be able to use hardbaits for bass in another month or two.

>>935343
That's why I liked these Flatt Shads so much. You have to work them fairly quick but the wobble they give off is so realistic like a struggling baitfish that is freaking out.

>>935343
All you have to do is twitch your rod tip man.

Do you have arthritis or something?