/out Boots thread

I wear trail runners. No reason for boots at all, even in the winter.

>>925539
Well I like fixed ankle because I often walk in the forests and mountains. Also, aren't your feet just soaked and sore after your hike? In these I could walk through the shallow creek and I wouldn't feel a drop of water on my socks.

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I'd love to try these sometimes. Expensive as hell but as I've heard and read nearly indestructible and comfy

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I wear these. In Texas, mostly do day hiking, so I don't really need a pair of heavy duty backpacking boots right now.

Would wear trail runners but I'd rather have a thicker boot sole for cactus thorns and whatnot.

Overall pretty decent light hiking boot with a roomy toe box.

>>925539
>What is the best for me is the best for you
Here it is, mister knows it all.

>>925534
what boots are those?

>>925587
nvm I'm an idiot

Boot thread is to /out/

as

Trap thread is to /b/

>>925593
there hasn't been a decent trap thread in years, same with gore threads

>>925593
>>925612
You have to go back to whatever shithole you came from.

8 year old danners finally died

Should I get north face chilkat 400

or the salomon toundra pro

I liked danners but I need something warmer this time around

Is it preferable to wear thicker socks with a sized up shoe or wear as thin socks as possible?

From a mechanical point of view I would guess the thinner socks would be a better option but not as comfortable

If you wear anything besides 10 inch altama full leather boots youre a fucking cuck

Those boots helped me become everything I ever needed to be

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>>925646
Pic related

Genuinely the best boot to ever exist just dont buy them used

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Bought the St. Elias GTX today at REI, so at least if I hate them I can return them. I'm a filthy casual, so I'm hoping they'll last the next 4-6 years no problem.

I was thinking of getting of Quest 4d 2 and merrel vents for summer. There are light army leather boots, should i get those instead for summer.

>>925637
if you liked danners I guess you'll be more comfy with salomon

>>925641
i wear thin socks and a pair of thick woolen ones on top of those

>>925647
I actually believe you but I'd be afraid of those stitches on sides

>>925679
Depending on how much you walk in those I guess they'll endure cca 2 years and then fall apart. Glued ones never hold much of stress.

>>925587
>>925591
It's ok, these are personalized Dallape Stivo. Probably the cheapest full-leather trekking boots in all of Europe. Damn, those Italians know their shit. Next comparable would be some stuff from Sweden or Norway and Slovakia.

>>925732
What should I look for in a boot? What are the giveaways that boots won't last long.

>>925729
Its triple and quad stitched. Very strong.

>>925647
Why wont this meme die? Someone must own stock in this company to spam it all over /out/ all the time

>muh triple stitching

>>925866
okay, I'm not going to pretend that I'm some kind pro in this but I walk a lot and I know what I want from the shoes I'm wearing. There are 3 pivotal points I'm looking at when choosing the boots:
>Toe cap
The most stressed part of the shoe - constant flexing and stretching, water, soil, rocks, snow and all kinds of things hitting it constantly. Logically you want it sturdy and waterproof and so I choose full rubber/leather toe cap. Stitches are rather good way to let the water in nad they make good breaking point of the shoe. Of course you need to take care of it by wax and leather nutrition.
>Heel
Basically the same - less stitching is better, it should be one piece. The stitches will just give in and the heel will crack.
>Sole
The most problematic one because it's quite personal choice - harder, softer, 200 variations of Vibram - pick your own. You don't have time to learn every piece of information about every type of sole so you should do the easiest thing -
look at the stitching of the sole or how it is glued. There are pros and cons to both:
>Stitched pros
Durability, quite easy repair, aesthetically pleasing
>Stitched cons
Price, requires proper waterproofing care
>Glued pros
Cheaper, easily repaired, waterproof by design, comfortable
>Glued cons
Significantly lower durability

Well, that about wraps it up. Hope I helped.

>>925619
100% /out/grown baby
How am I supposed to go back?! I'm already here mah nugget

>>926088
damn, that actually is a good guide

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anyone have experience with thorogoods for hiking? I know they're solid work boots and they have /fa/ appeal, but I'm mainly interested in how they hold up for hiking

also more broadly, anyone have experience hiking in wedge soled boots?

>>926391
this sole is good for drier forests, roads, asphalt and such.I don't think it would perform well in the mountains or any harder terrain.

>>926391
I have those, like the other guy said it's a soft sole and better for other uses.
At the same time I've used them to hike in the Forest and for Hunting, but mostly everyday use around town for the past 4 years. They have held up well and still not due for a resole.
I will probably get another pair because it's American made and Union made and the biggest bang for your buck in my opinion

>>925915
Its literally just me posting about them

>>926546
Have you been using them every day or basically every day? I hear the christy sole wears fast and just becomes a wonky see saw thing after a little while. Are you going to resole to a lug sole once when the time comes?

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I havent had any other pair of shoes for 3 years.

The lack of oc in these threads always kills me. Same with hat threads.

>>926552
I try to switch them around every other day but I've worn them everyday for months at a time before.
Thorogoods don't use the Vibram Christy sole anymore, they make their own. It will wear out the heels like the hipsters like to do if you don't put taps on the wear area. Mine wear out pretty evenly with the plastic taps I use.
I plan on replacing the welt to a leather one and probably put on a vibram ripple sole in a few months

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>>926557
>>926555

>>926562
What are those things on the heel?

>>926605
Plastic taps. You just replace them when they wear out instead of wearing out your heels

>>926605
those are the taps he's talking about
deals with the uneven wear until he decides to have them resoled

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>>926555
So much lack of oc. Will post mine when they get here Friday. In the meantime enjoy this pic of my daily wear shoes.

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My old stand-bys, just back from a stroll in the snow

>>926562
I dont know if they are good but they sure look good.

What's a good way to clean the inside of a pair of second-hand boots?

Would soaking them fuck up the leather?

>>926562
You really care them well

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What are some good boots for walking extreme distances? I'm the guy who'll be biking from Alaska to Patagonia in a couple years and I'd like a back up plan in case they steal my bike/I feel I'm going too fast. I'll probably continue into Afroeurasia afterwards. Can you please recommend some boots that will last the absolute longest?

>>926686
1. Don't buy used boots
2. ???
3. Profit

>>926717
But all the thrift stores near me have shitloads of boots that are dirt cheap and in good shape

I just don't want to bask in someone else accumulated foot sweat

>>926686
Brush the dirt off, clean the boots by wet cloth. Brush it again properly, now using cold soap water and shower the shit out of those shoes. If they're dirty inside, wash it the same way. Rinse in tepid water until the water is clean. Wipe the boots dry with clean cloth, put them somewhere with room temperature and good air circulation and put some newspaper in them. Next day throw the newspaper out and let them be for one more day, after this time boots should be dry. Use some conditioner like Saphire and after 4-5 days you can wax them. Leather will be fine, don't worry about it.

>>926716
which terrain? what shoes will you have on bike? have you ever walked longer distances? how heavy are you and your baggage?

>>926721
read>>926088
anon is wise

>>926722
>>926725
>>926088

Thanks

>>926724
>Terrain
All of it
>Bike shoes
I don't know either but not clips
>Long distance walking
Lol no, but it's a back up plan. I will do this.
>Weight
I am 150 lb and I just started planning

Anyone have an opinion about Cabelas Iron Ridge? They look dang good on paper but I haven't checked them out in person yet.

>>926730
lastly, how much would you plan to give for boots you may have not even use?

>>926736
$150
I'm saving up for equipment these years prior

>>926736
>>926740
I really like OP's and >>926562
But that's just because they look cool as fuck

>>926741
OP here, you can get my Dallape Stivo for cca 160 bucks. Look at calzaturedallape.it

>>926745
Thanks, I was looking for them

>>926703
Every few months or if they are muddy I clean them with a brush using ivory soap and water. I use Obenaufs as needed for conditioning and waterproofing depending on the season

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georgias son.

definitely prefer the big 5 trail runners for summer, but the waterproofing on the georgias is top tier and steel toe means i can wear em at work
>inb4 steel toe hate

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I got me a pair of these a a year ago. They've held up oretty well. Nice and water proof, nice ankle support, and they're nice and heavy duty. Not to mention decently comfortable. They grip surfaces nicely, so im not sliding all over shit all the damn time.

Genuine american-made boots is the only way to go.

>>926859
>american made

>>926859
I'd pay for seeing these on someones feet in the mountains just for that level of tripping

>>926832
>the big 5 trail runners
Can you elaborate, like are there 5 well known models?

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OP strikes again! Hi guys, I'm glad the thread continues. I just found Slovakian shoemaker Makara (see makaraobuv.sk) and I'm pretty interested. If any of you have these I'll be glad to hear something more about them. Seems to be mostly if not full leather and sturdy as hell mountaineering boots.

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This is pretty much the only ones I buy. I live in the SE US and they've held up really well for everything I've thrown at them. Changed out the insoles which was my only complaint with them. Everything they say they are. Waterproof, breathable, and very comfortable.

>>927221
what are they called?

>>927224
Merrily Moab Mid Gortex

>>927264
Merrell** damned autocorrect

>>927265
Thanks man I will check em out

>>927221
How often do you buy new ones?

i want something thats /fa/ af and also out af
what do?

>>927417
watch OP

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>>927221

I have those without goretex. Problem is, they don't take long to fail. I get rarely 500 clicks out of a pair and have had 3. They rib at the heel, also the sole is very grippy and also soft. They run down fast.

Still, i'm on my third pair and will buy more, they are 60 to 70 Euros, wich isn't much.

>>927433
instead of buying one pair for 160-200 euro that will hold for next 20 years?
Cool.

>>925679
You probly know this already, but REI changed their return policy. Now it's only a year, not a lifetime return policy.

>>927433
Your age is showing old man

>>926088
Well done anon. I thought I knew all I needed about boots, but you taught me a thing or two.

I have a pair of steel toed red wing irish settler boots I use for work.
Would these also be a good choice for when I go in the woods and hike?

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>>927601
Here is a pic of the boots I wear to work.

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>>927601
>>927610
Holy shit. I did not mean to click that pic I am sorry guys.
Please ignore that pic, these are my boots

>>927221
>these are the only boots I know and I am afraid of change

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got these for cheap, they are comfy as hell but ugly and probably not so durable

>>927601
sure, they will be ok unless you plan some serious mountaineering or 1000 mile hike

>>927685
>toecap stitching
why? what purpose does it have, goddamned?
>vibram
the sole will be fine but the glue is going to give in after 200 miles
>tongue
yeah, water comes right in

Overall - if you have bought it on sale, not bad for hike around the city or forest, maybe even some rocks when it's dry. Avoid the rain and snow.

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Chiruca Hunter boots. I got a good deal on them so that's why I chose them but they turned out to be good. Stepped into water with them when we use boats and walked over wet terrain, and they've kept my feet dry.

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>>927433
The heel ribbing is a bitch, I haven't found a way to stop that. But as far the soles running down fast, I've had no real issue with that(yet, knock on wood).

>>927677
Naw.

>>927333
Every few years. Last pair I had lasted almost 3.

Inveat in quality guys
A few brands to look for
Hanwag
Lowa
Meindl
LaSportiva

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>>927441

Shut it, whippersnapper. Respect your elders.

>>927918
Meindl is the only solid shoemaker from your list and even then you should pick carefully.Meindl Island was rubbish, those were destroyed after a mere year. Meindl Perfekt weren't perfect as they boast but really good boots.

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Best for everything.

>>928068
Not for snow. Not for heavier rain. Not for longer periods of walking.

>>928072
You don't know shit then xD

>>927902
>. Last pair I had lasted almost 3.
Sounds like you don't walk a lot. I'm lucky to get more than a year out of them.

>>927215
Yup, they are custom made for you feet and that also means that they are hella lot expensive. Cheapest pairs cost around 190e if I remember correctly. Never owned them but heard only praise about them, also you have to take care for them. They then should last for a lifetime

>>928068
Those look like they belong on a Goth kid or an hipster "artist" that doesn't want to wear docs.

>>926667
Have had a pair of these for about 2 weeks now and I love them. Xeroshoes are great.

>>928082
>Sounds like you don't walk a lot.
Actually during that time I wore those not only to hike and the works but I also worked retail and wore them to work. As a poorfag at the time they were one of my only pairs of shoes so I wore them almost daily until my next job made me wear nothing but steel toes. Even then they were what I wore when I got off work.

>>926391
I have a pair of the wedge sole. On dry terrain they work well enough, but on wet ground like rocks or damp leaves or whatever they are basically the slipperiest shoes in the world as far as im concerned

>>926859
I was thinking about getting these for hunting. Can the santa hat be changed out for a hunter's orange baseball cap? it seems more practical

What's the verdict on these? I see em for $227 on Amazon right now as opposed to $400 so really want to know if they are worth it. What's the temp range for em? comfy and expected life?

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>>928249
Forgot pic

>>928081
>stitching in the most stretched/flexed part of the boot
>stitching right on the achilles tendon
>no double tongue
>the top of the boot is just leather without padding
yep, enjoy.

>>928119
good to know, thanks anon

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*sigh* every fucking time.

>battle proven
>durable to hell
>perfect for humping 100's of kilos of gear through jungles
>good enough for THE MARINES
>best boot ever

I'd like to see you fags suggest a boot that's remotely as close to this perfect /out/ footwear.

>>928330
But where do you get the real deal? All I find are Chinese copies that won't last, or US made ones that are way too expensive.

>>928249
>>928251
looks relatively solid, can you post heel? You'll definitely have to keep an eye on the sole and how well it's glued. Also I guess it's still quite expensive for 227 bucks, 150 at best.

>>928330
What is the brand?

>>928523
>>928337
Rothco is made here in the US of A and lasts me a long time. Good value too.

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>>925534
I'm trying to buy some good boots to go hiking/camping with

are these any good? i'm from scotland so it'll be very boggy

>>928727
Hit and miss. I sold them for a time. Had people that loved them and people who wouldn't touch them. Probably not what you wanted to see but that's how those work.

>>928727
read the thread, anon. OP and other anons posted good set of boots including the criteria to choose some.
>>925534
>>925546
>>925647
>>926088
>>926562
>>926832
>>927215
>>928251

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OP here.
Guys, let's talk about Jornkangan from Jorn Jensen.
These are possibly the most expensive boots I've ever wanted. With pricetag reaching 500USD it better should have but there is just so little info on them! In Norway these are almost worshipped as national heritage even if you can wait almost 2 years for your boots due to the massive amount of customers for these hand-made feethuggers.
>things I know via interwebs
Jornkangan boots are light. One boot weighs only 660g.
You will need insole. The ankle isn't really fixed in this.
The sole seems to be relatively soft and might not endure.

That's about all I know about Jornkangan. If you have some additional info, feel free to share.

>>929139
Just from googling, I see that Jorn Jensen doesn't make them, they import them. So I don't think we Norwegians can take credit for them :^)
The name (Jörnkängan) means it must be from Sweden.

>>929142
well their website has norwegian domain and is written solely in norwegian. I found no trace of any information about being it made in Sweden.

>>929170
>I found no trace of any information about being it made in Sweden.
I know. That information appeared in Google but not on their website.
They could have been more clear about it on their website.

>>929142
>>929179
anon, don't be a dick and post source

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>>927610
Based sociology anon
Also these are the boots I use mil surp but reliable, comfortable and goretex
Also in brown not black but this is the only pic I could find

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>>929244
I'm about to get pic related very soon too. Already have the regular German Army ones (fit my very broad feet well), they are very good and comfy for day hikes, but I'm going on a 6 day hike in the Alps next summer with a couple friends, so I'm biting the bullet and spending €200 on the Haix KSK3000 model which have overall great reviews on different sites and are apparently on sale since 1999, so tried and tested I assume

>>929139
that doesn't look or sound like it's worth 500 bucks at all

>>929328
To my knowledge, Norway has a really fucked up purchasing power. Sure people may on average make €10k/month, but then again they pay like €50 for a 20x0.5L crate of beer, while here in Germoni we make less but can buy the same crate for €10-15, depending on brand (some very cheap stuff like Oettinger Pils going as low as €6)

>>929244
>>929318
I was thinking of getting either those Haix or Lowas bergschuh. Whats the difference?

>>929331
I had the Lowa Renegade GTX too a couple years ago, but it wasn't for me as I have broad feet so I resold them. It all depends on your foot shape. If narrow go for Lowa, if broad go for Haix

A-are Timbs /out/?

>>929358
Certain styles are very /out/

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Not going to pretend to be an expert but I've enjoyed these boots a lot, so far. More miles on the zephyrs, just got the hunters and did a winter trip with them.

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>>929232
I just assumed you're Norwegian because of what you write, and that you can read this. If not, enter the words into google translate.

It's also worth remembering that these boots are called Jörnkängan and the Norwegian alphabet doesn't use umlaut (those two dots over the vocals). So a Norwegian producer would never call their boots Jörnkängan. It would be spelled differently.
Oh well, it's not a super important detail imo but since you asked for a source, here it is.

>>928065
I got some Meindl boots from Cabela's
They've held up well over the past three years. Used to use them daily until I got some new shoes for Christmas

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My new chiruca canada boots, theyr just great and comfy. Nubuk and napa leather
Just dont know how much i should use spraying leather conditioner?

>>929318
...and they already arrived! Fit is great, but daaamn are they stiff in the beginning, felt like full metal the first few steps! Also the soles are adding a whopping 5cm to my already 190, feel like a fucking giant and it took a bit of time to readjust balance. To start the break-in process I took a short walk through the fields with the doggos, and things are already getting comfier

>>925647
M E M E B O O T

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>>925534
i'm very happy with my Hanwag Alaska GTX. They're a bit on the heavy side tho. I treated them with a nice vaseline/beewax-mixture shown in the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNTWb6d_gOs&feature=youtu.be

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>>930209
here's a stock photo of them

>>930209
Might buy those. Any other cons beside the weight?

>>929139
Is there anything these boots do that LL Bean boots don't do for $120USD?

>>930220
Well, they might take a while to brake in. And like most high quality gear they ain't cheap. If you keep them in good condition they'll last very long. Hanwag also offers to resole their boots when you "walked them down" (english isn't my first language). Weight is 875 gr per shoe.

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Is this a well known brand? If so, do they make good quality stuff?

www.vasque.com/

>>926667
What are these?

>>930247
>LL Bean
quality has gone downhill for years, the kids are just money hungry nowadays

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I have a pair of delicious Vakuum GTX by Meindl, they're really heavy but even after using them on a 35km overnight ruck they held up perfectly fine and I had no bruises whatsoever on my feet.

>>930253
Yeah I have seen plenty of Vasque gear, and those boots look neat.

>>925539
Maybe not in your fucking driveway in florida. In real man country, going out in the winter with shitty fag shoes is how people get their feet amputated

>>925539
>Jeans were made for gold miners, they're perfect for hiking

t. I don't go outside

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>>928124
I think they could have done a better job on the wearability of the toe covers. As you can see they are pretty hit. I have worn them all day every day since they released though.

>>930256
The Ipari Hana from Xeroshoes. It's their first closed piece of footwear. They specialized in huarache style diy kits at first then moved on to make their own sandals. I have two diy style kits and a pair of Amuri Clouds and love them all. Truly the closest thing to barefoot I've gotten aside from being barefoot.

>>926667
Got these boots from Lems and they are awesome except I need to order one size up. Beautiful leather and comfy as fuck. Can't wait to get the right size and head out into the woods.

>>930253
yes
great boots

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If anyone can get their hands on these Arctic Foxes in US11.5-US14 I will play well and pay for shipping to USA

>>930352
Their boots are made at the same factory in Maine that they've been made in for decades.

Their clothing is all Chinese crap but the Bean boots are the same good ole quality that they've always been.

>>930550
Then quality control is shit, I work at a shoe repair shop and can definitely tell the difference in products from 15 years ago to now

>>930590
Who would ever send an LL Bean duck boot to a repair shop when LL Bean has both a lifetime warranty on their duck boots and resoles them for $30?

You can't even repair them. They take a proprietary piece sole.

>>930647
We don't do the sole but constant restitching the seams, bean boots aren't the only thing LL Bean sells and it takes over a month to get back from the factory and people hardly plan ahead

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What does /out/ think of the Salomon Quest?

>>928727
I have a pair of altitude IVs that survived two years of continuous use, and a pair of Altitude Vs that I've had since may. They're very comfortable for long periods of time, fairly waterproof, and hold up well. The one thing I'll suggest is to replace the shoelaces as soon as you get them, since the ones they come with are junk.

>>930547
why though? they don't even look nice and I wouldn't believe that my feet could ever stay dry in these

>>930547
Go back to your containment board

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>>929139
You can get them for ~€350 + shipping/customs. The beak is for traditional skis and although they look neat some people don't recommended them for hiking as they have a habit of getting stuck in things.They're hand made by one man in the 'town' Jörn in Sweden who refuse to expand his business and recommend Lundhags if you can't wait. First became popular with the saami people. They have had long waiting lists because Swedish and Norwegian army ordered a few hundred boots. Work best off road, less comfy on hard trails, at least for me.

https://www.allmogejakt.se/category.html/coats--jackets (it's under Kängor/stövlar/skor if it doesn't show up)

>>930661
Salomons are just meme now. More better options out there.

Anyone tried KEEN's?

I'm doubt about their own membrane tech. They feels good on widefooter like me and look solid buit.

>>930661
That unnecessary amount of seams and stitches just screams "planned obsolescence", but I admit I have no personal experience with the brand

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Meindl perfekt 7s
They've held up well.
No complaints
Kinda wish I went for the 10s but they're too bulky looking

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I've got an old pair of scarpas from the 80s I think. They belonged to one of my grandparents and will probably last be the rest of my life.

>>931360
How fucking dumb am I, these are my zamberlans.

>>931029
Thanks for info, mate. I guess I'll stick to my Dallape :)

>>928068
>>928081
>>928324
anon is correct, gothboy. Your calfs will be brushed bloody by that leather edge after 100 clicks.

>>931039
>i'm going to act better than this boot I dont even have but not say what's better because if i can't afford it no one else should be able to buy it either

>>931757
They arent even expensive. I dont own them, but people say they are good. Still I'd say there are propably more rugged/durable options out there. Depends what you want from your shoes.

>>931834
How are you judging something you know nothing about and have never worn

That's like me saying lemonade is better than orange juice if I've never had either

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>>930253

I like Vasque. I had a pair of their Breeze GTX model and wore them on a month long backpacking trip. They were torn to shit by the end of it, but for a lightweight boot that can often be had for less than $100, they did the job.

There is an updated version, the Breeze 2, which features all-metal lace hooks, which is probably a good upgrade.

>>925539
Fucking lol try that in the UK or Northern Europe m8.

I'm sure it's fine in Arizona.

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Best hands down for day hikes and tropical weather. Not the best for cold weather, but works.

>>932019
How does the stability & ankle support compare to the average trail runner? I've been eyeing these up, but don't wanna pull the trigger if they're basically beefier trail runners.

>>932052
There's slight ankle support. There is a mid length ankle one with the same properties

>>932052
Diffferent Op here. I am going on my 4th pair now. Hands down best shoe I've owned. No more ankle support than shoes of similar height. They do however make it in a mid. Which is more like a high top. I've never felt the need for more ankle support. Maybe you have feminine ankles though.

>>931361
how are they? do you like zambos?

>>932213
They're a superb mountain boot, wouldn't recommend for long hiking/backpacking due to the weight but I use them mostly for basic mountaineering/scrambling. Despite the age they're still barely worn in and have a steel shank in the sole for rigidity when climbing with crampons.

>>931849
Things can be judged based on understanding of certain things. Those salomons have lot of stitching and fabric, attributes that are usually considered negatives for durability of good trekking boots.

>>928697
got to be careful with rothco, some of their stuff is great, made in USA stuff, and some is cheap, made in china, imitation of real military gear

>>931849
Look salomon is dead quality. Main technologist quit and brand now is hyped as shit. Salomon is massmarket stuff on outdoor market.
Just compare them in your local store with smth else, you will see the difference. Dumb fag.

>>932254
Friendly anon could you elaborate on the items rothco makes well, because ive been burned by their cheap chinese crap enough to completely write them off, if their doing something well im intrigued. Thanx

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Keen Targhee II
I love these, tough, waterproof, good support
I shy away from boots with the metal "speed lacing tabs" once they get banged in and bent back out they become weaker

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>>932284
+1 for KEEN's

>>932267
>>931849
former Salomon CEO now work for KEEN. Wiki: "James Curleigh joined the company as CEO[5] after 12 years as CEO at Salomon Sports North America."

>>931849
>>932267
>>932403

Salomon used to be my shit. I wore their trail runners for probably 10 years. Now they are losing it.

Just take a look at their website to see that they're going to shit. You won't find any kind of customer feedback options or contact information without having to call a fucking phone number.

Salomon is dead to me.

A real shame

>>932284
So how breathable they are? And waterproof or water resistant, have you tried them in real Wet conditions? How gripy?

Keep in mind that if you are a trail hiker you don't need a heavy duty boot.
If you prefer off-trail full of debris or hunting you should go with rugged stiff pair.

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>All these fucking grandpas with their foot and ankle destroyers.

It's not the 1970s anymore, Gramps, maybe it's time to move on to a modern hiking boot that's actually comfortable, and light?

The La Sportiva Synthesis GTX Mid literally won best hiking boot from every entity that gave such an award last year.

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>>932484
I'm all for the new school boot picrelated but I feel like not having a place to tuck the excess lace (like on the tongue) with those Sportivas would be annoying

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>>932414
as close to waterproof as ive ever seen for a mid, ive worn them through downpours, muddy conditions, several inchs of snow and never gotten wet
Ive been impressed with how well they breath being leather and damn near waterproof
Very grippy good aggressive traction

>>928065
you're retarded

>>932505
thanks man, i think i will try em

Hey /out/'ists!

What is the most applicable option for inawoods trekking?

It is all about WOODS for me.

>>932509
You'll be pleased, i got mine on amazon, simple.
The laces are that 550 cord-ish stuff, i like more aggressive grippy laces so i swapped them out

>>932484
>La Sportiva Synthesis GTX Mid literally won best hiking boot from every entity that gave such an award last year.
I just looked up five such "best hiking boots" lists from last year. Four of them didn't even mention that boot, and the fifth just listed it in a list of 20 boots and didn't pick a winner.

I think you're full of shit.

>>932510
Thats how i came across these >>932284
Im not through hiking, i plan a route deep in on topo map and make camp, no trails no peeps no problems, and they havent failed me once.

>>932519

Sorry, it was 2015:

http://www.backpacker.com/gear/footwear/trail-runners/2015-editors-choice-la-sportiva-synthesis-mid-gtx/

>>932519

Here's another 2015 win for the high version of the same boot

http://www.elevationoutdoors.com/peak-gear-awards/

>>932524
>>932525
Oooh. In that case, thanks for clarifying.

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>>932484
Not all of us live in New Mexico/Arizona or whichever tropical desert you hail from, why can't you sneakerfags get that in your skulls? Yes on the few dry, hot summer days we have here I prefer sneakers too, but keep in mind there's places in the world where that doesn't equal 365 days of the year
Oh, also fuck planned obsolescence

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Anyone have any comments on these boots? Or Zamberlan in general? Tofane NW GT. Normally would never spend as much on boots but my work gave us money for "lifestyle activities" so may as well go all out. Any other recommendations $300-$~?

>>932586
Like I said, I wear trail runners year round. I'm leaving on a 7 month long hike soon, will snow for the first 2, trail runners the whole time no problem.

>>932586
>Oh, also fuck planned obsolescence

At least they don't start off obsolete, gramps.

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>>932621
muh babies

>>932621
Well, good luck when you step in the first snow-covered, easy to miss puddle, and the whole "they'll dry out fast" expectation, which may be true when it's >30°C, will go out the window when outdoor temps are around freezing and humidity near 100%
>>932622
Have fun spending €100+ every 1-2 years for your fashion trend du jour after which all your overly intricate seams and stitches will have fallen apart, while I spend €200 on a pair of sturdy boots once per decade. Sure they're stiff in the beginning and not super comfy from the get go, they'll always be after the first 100km, but then even more so (yes I tried "modern" boots too - and while they were comfy enough right away, they started degrading after the first 50km, worst €150 I ever spent)

>>932628

Uh, La Sportiva Synthesis or Core GTXs are waterproof, gramps. I know back in your day you needed a foot and ankle destroying piece of iron and leather to achieve such things, but it's not the olden days anymore.

>>926562
What boot is this?

>>932636
>are waterproof
Yeah, enjoy that one year (if you're lucky)

>>932644

I'd rather have the risk of future failure than the certainly of present foot and ankle maiming.

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>>932645
Put between 1000 and 2000km on my old army boots in the 10 years between conscription up to early 2016 (at that point I admittedly had to replace them), no issues whatsoever. Even doing the "triple 30" (30km hike through very hilly terrain, 30kg of backpack weight, 30°C weather), I didn't get a single blister

>>932586
>I've never been to new mexico

>>932646
>Now listen 'ere sonny boy! Back in my day we walked 30km uphill both ways to school in a blizzard and we LIKED IT!

OK gramps.

>>932650
Mountaintops that can get slight frosts once per century don't count, nobody lives there

>>932654
>Hurr durr let's over-exaggerate
If you don't like going /out/ beyond like retrieving your mail once per week, what are you doing ITT?

>>932658

Kek

Santa Fe just recieved 14 inches over the weekend

>>932660
>>Hurr durr let's over-exaggerate
>Put between 1000 and 2000km on my old army boots in the 10 years between conscription up to early 2016

Gramps, I think you're going senile. Maybe you should go to bed.

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>>932646
lol look at the tread on those things. Hilarious. This is the type of grip you want for hiking. Rock shield, pivot points, it's all there.

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>>932666
Of course soles run down after log distances. Pic are those of the newest ones I'm just breaking in

>>928068
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Thoughts on the Adidas GSG9.2?

My requirements

>lightweight
>durable
>Desert environment

Is there a non-meme version of the Adidas?

Can someone recommend me some boots not too expensive for walking in the snow? Staying at a cabin this weekend and am feeling clueless.

>>932749
Some exmilitary faggot said that the Rocky S2V are good, so maybe look into those.

>>932618
I'd stick to Dallape Stivo or anons Macara

>>932636
that would be the reason why every pro in the mountains still buys leather boots and recommends leather boots.Thanks, bro. You really explained it to us.

>>932780
Go with rubber boots like Muk.

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Is there such a thing as comfy chemical resistant work boots? Bought the pair on the right 15 months ago, got a new job in a winery that required walking 10km+ a day and handling corrosive chemicals, within 3 months they wore a nice hole just above my big toe and the rubber sole next to my toe separated from the leather letting water and shit in if I was standing in a puddle. Bought another better pair 2 months ago and they're already wearing a hole in the exact same spot, same deal with the sole coming apart too. I'm not keen on spending $170 for a pair of new boots 4 times a year, would rather get a really good pair for a bit more if they at least last twice as long if anyone has any suggestions.

>>932780
what is too expensive for you?

>>932830
More than 50 bucks

>>932831
no idea how the quality is these days, but I bought a pair similar to these 8 years ago at walmart and still use them when shoveling snow around the house. shame I can't find the exact boot, they're super warm and have held up fantastically

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rothco-Thinsulate-lined-Cold-Weather-Winter-PAC-Boot-Waterproof/154194604

>>932833
Those look pretty good. Ill see if u can find them in person tomorrow

>>932808
Thanks.

>>932666
Guess the Germans were thinking of a general purpose sole good on pavement and in most wood environments. People in the past got around with less.

>>929342
I have the Lowa Tibet GTX Wide, think they are specially built for the new zealand market as kiwis on average have much broader feet than americans or europeans. fucking solid boots.

>>932642
Thorogoods

>>930661
Three months of every day abuse and mine are holding up fine. Replace the laces though, theyre junk

What are your guy's opinions on Timberland boots in general or the brand.

>>933914
Some styles are pretty good for /out/ but everyone thinks they are just the tan new york brand

Anyone recommend me some shoes that come in big sizes? Ive got a 15 wide US and I've been unable to find anything

I need decent boots (preferably goretex) that will fit my feet with low arches.

I bought a pair of Merrell Moab Mid XCR GTX boots and standing in them for 3 minutes made my feet hurt.

What do?

>>933914
I have a pair of nubuck chukka timberland branded, they are solid knitted boots, warm and comfortable in winter weather for a 2 or 3 hours stroll in town but for trekking and hiking I prefear and advice for more tecnical boots

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I have a pair of Lowa boots that are starting to crack at the heel (see pic). Can I just glue it together?

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Are these boots any good?
Looks like they are the only quality boots sold on Amazon mx, and the price is right. But i fear they may be some hipster tier boots

>>934625
How old are they? Have they been sitting unused somewhere for a prolonged time? Could be polyurethane hydrolysis, if so then there's nothing you can do about it unfortunately.
http://kotaku.com/some-sneakers-age-like-shit-1693056687
Had this happen for a pair of mine too which were like 10 years old at that point

>>934632
>http://kotaku.com/some-sneakers-age-like-shit-1693056687

Well fug. They're about 12 years old, and I haven't worn them for almost a decade. The rest of the sole seems ok.

>>934625
If you got a Vibram or Vibram-like sole I think you can glue it, just test how reliable are them before a long trail

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>>934635
Yep, definitely PU hydrolysis then
Found a pic of my LOWAs from around 2000 which dissolved in around 2012

>>934627
Why timberland? Salewa and lowa are too hipster?

>>934502
Merrell boots are shit however try to fill them with wet rags for 24 hours

>>934643
Because I dont live in the us. And Amazon dont import that brands to my country. The only options i have is Merrell, Hi-tec, Northside, and Timberland.

>>934643
Ok, just check and they import salewa boots, but they cost the double of the timberland. Do they worth it over the timberland?

>>934684
I'm Italian and here timberland is more like a fashion brand while salewa is more technical. For simple trekking on trails probably timberland is ok, if you need boot for long trails in mountains with heavy backpack salewa could be better

>>934691
So, you think salewa will last me longer?

>>934701
Tell me how you mean to use them and give me salewa model so I can compare them

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I got a pair of these for $35 to pair with some merrel mids for hiking in Colorado. Think they will make it through a 5 day hike?

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>>934714
This is the only model they sell. I usually hike in trails with rocks, mud or Sand. Something between 10-20 kilometers.

>>934723
Perhaps, bring sandals too to make breathe your feet after the walking

>>934736
The merrel are vented- I was thinking waterproof insulated boots and lighter vented trail shoes were a good combo. I never see anyone mention columbia products, so I wonder if the are crap or just not /out/ approved

>>934735
Timberland looks more durable because the external leader while salewa are more comfortable for long trails, have a good and stable sole and goretex extended version. For 20 km take timberland they are cheaper

>find in page "whites"
>0 results

I don't know how many of you are international poster vs US posters but... after all these French, Chinese, and Nordic boot posts, I'm suprised.

I own a pair of Whites Hunters that have gone through three owners over 20 years and they have only been rebuilt once. Made in the US, made for hiking and working in the woods. Waterproof leather construction. The only caveat may be price.

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>>934758
Just curious,do you use them for trekking, hiking, approaching or mountaineering?

>>934736
I don't know about
>/out/ approved
boots, I suppose they are durable, hard to die, full leader, hand-made.
About columbia, I saw some models at Decathlon but I never used them. They looks Salomon-tier so, for 35$ and 5 days hiking, they are good.

Wow, these boots look gay!

>>934758
You have some persistence, gotta give you that.
And still, while high heels may work for firefighting, woodcutting, etc. I wouldn't want to hike in any for longer than 5 minutes
Also wouldn't want anything used as breaking in makes boots adjust to only your foot shape, so to justify the $500+ price tag you'd need to wear them yourself for 50+ years

Blackhawk Desert Ops boots. Used the, as my duty boots for almost three years (yes, POG, but I also wore them /out/ often). Great boots and you can pick up the ugly green ones for $30 from LA Police Gear right now.

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OP here after a while.
I stumbled upon these canadian winter boots, it's Kamik Alborg.
Looks rather decent and the price seems nice, where's the catch?

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>>935855

>>935855
>>935856
I am almost sure I'll have to glue the stitches properlyand max the bloody nubuk through. The insole should make it comfy enough even for longer distances.

>>935859
too much plastic on upper boot on longer distances your feet gonna scream, but for light walking on snow could be ok.

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my boots

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>>928249
>>928251
Love mine. Haven't been on any really long trips/super long hikes though.

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>>934635
>>934638

can I glue these cracks shut or will the rest of the sole end up coming apart?

>>934627
Any other opinions on timberland?

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saloman 4d quest or naw? never owned a pair of hiking boots before and want to start hiking.

>>934627

Those boots got me through yosemite, isle royale and two chicago winters so far.

Have not waterproofed or taken care of them in any way, have put at least 1000 miles on them.

Easily the comfiest pair of boots I've ever owned.

My only complaint is that the stock laces come loose often.

No boot expert, just walk and run a lot. No issues at all with blistering or pain. Very little wear on the boots after daily use for 2 years.

>>925647
>>928330

Issue military boots are shit. They are inconstant in quality, absorb very little impact, and generally have problems with the side vents and eyelets popping out.

I was in the Army for five years and as much shit as "shoe boots" get they are worth the investment even if they wear out faster. Wearing Nike SFBs vs issued shit boots all day while wearing full battle rattle is a huge difference in how your hips, knees, and back are going to feel when your day is over. It's a shame I didn't try to take better care of my joints and buy decent boots until I was about to get out. Don't wear these.

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No mention of Matterhorn/Corcorans?

They're heavy but durable, waterproof and so very comfortable over long miles. Best boots I've ever owned.

>>936392
Well you could try, but from personal experience (tried that too) they'll very soon after rip apart elsewhere

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I was looking at some Keen Voyageur Mid Hiking Boots. I would mainly be using them for light hiking and every day use. Anybody have any experience with them? Also, they arent water proof; will i regret that? The price point is nice, and i like the way they look.

>>932662
not in town, up the mountain though yeah for sure

above 7k ft we get negative temps every year

>>934723
what's the clip ring for?

>>936593
Thanks anon

>>937125
see >>932284

>>934723
i got these for my GF and she fucking loves them. they are mini tanks and she has never complained about her feet hurting or cold when wearing them. they are holding up wonderfully. will be getting my own pair when my current finally die.

>>925546
>expensive as hell
>250
That's pretty normal for boots how poor are you

>>937679
eh if we are talking american currency i don't know if hes right that they are expensive "as hell" but the 200-300 bracket on the higher end.

i do pretty alright with $$$ and dont feel like spending 250 on boots. esp when i can get something almost as good for 100 bucks less.

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>>937679
Not him but that's definitely upper range. I recently spent €200 on >>929318 (retail price is €230, and even online after lurking for months I couldn't get them much cheaper, never seen an offer below 200), it's by far the most I ever spent on footwear, but after two weeks, I'd say it was worth it. Really sturdy and solid production, went on a short day hike last week (pic, took me 3h20m) and despite not fully broken in yet and really shitty terrain (took quite a few off-trail shortcuts with lots of rocks, occasionally deep snow etc), it already was very comfy, not even a hint of blisters, just a little stiff - and it'll only get better from here!

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I need a pair of all leather Norwegian Welt boots 6 or 7 inches for less than $250. Does no one create high quality boots anymore?

>>929318
Haix, Meindl, Lowa and Hanwag are kinda the big 4 of hiking boots in Europe, can't go wrong with any of them.

>>937797
try calzaturedallape.it

Longshot here but has anyone worked wildland fire or anything similar in the West? What boots did you use? (Hopefully) starting my first season this year and my current boots are on their last legs

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>>937797
Here
30 bucks wont break your bank
6pm.com

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The boots on the left I got as a Christmas gift and I really don't like them but the boots on the left I got out of my local national guard armoury when I was 14 and have lasted 6 years of solid use. Some bates boots

>>938679
>Haix, Meindl, Lowa and Hanwag are kinda the big 4 of hiking boots in Europe
[citation needed]

>>938679
>>939542
Daily reminder that Europe isn't one country, which brands are popular depends on your country.

I haven't even heard of Haix, Meindl, Lowa and Hanwag before.

Boots or shoes when hiking/trekking? I understand boots have better ankle support whilst shoes are lightweight. Total /out/ noob here.

>>939551
It all boils down to where (climate, on-/off-trail, flat/hilly/mountainous, terrain in general...) and when (summer/winter, length of trip,...)

>>939697
Not that anon, but I'm a noob at this as well. Mostly hiking a bit of trekking nothing for more than 2 days. Hilly/Mountainous forested terrains but only up to 1.5km-2km height. From spring-fall, nothing during winter, there's sometimes some snow left over in the deeper forests but that's at best 0.5m of snow. The climate is 'moderately warm and rainy continental climate (Dfb) ' according to wikipedia, Croatia for short.

>>939551
I personally wear trail runners on any terrain, through all 4 seasons.

>>934735
I have a pair of those and they're pretty good.

>>939885
>trail runner
Post your compression shorts and LED safety light.

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>>939860
Well in that case I'd personally definitely tend towards proper boots (because potential water from outside >>> water from inside). Cfb SW Germany here, but we can have unusual cold snaps every now and then, like last week when I went on my day hike here >>937748 when it was around -5°C. So in winter I prefer heavy, waterproof boots, while in summer I rather use trainers

>>939885
>Arizona
>seasons
FIY "very hot summer" (Mar-Nov) vs "slightly less hot summer" (Dec-Feb) don't count as seasons

>>939860
whatever trekking boots with bumpy soles suede/nylon upper are ok. If you think you gonna dive your feet in streams/bogs or mud look for leader upper, goretex has a lifespan around 5 years. Make sure they are comfortable, prefer a bigger size, high cut make your ankles more stable

>>939926
Nope, I wear them through deep snow all day, no problems. We ultralight thru hikers are the elite of the elite when it comes to being outdoors. I laugh at bootfags, right away you know they're amateurs that have no idea what they're doing.

>>939894
>compression shorts
I wear pants, and don't use a safety light. Also, can you hike 45 miles every day for months on end? No? Then step the fuck down

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>>939894
is this you?

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Meindl desert british army - probably the best lightweight multi terrain multi use boot i have come across so far, I had a pair for two years worn constant. Hiking and working in them too so took took many scrapes and bangs. super lightwieght and comfotable or long wear periods. Barely any wear in time too. Best

>>939910
>>939933
Thanks lads

>>925546
Those look like swedish military boots, what are they?

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I just got these timberland boots, and I can't wait to use them this spring when my friends and I go camping in Tennessee.
They were pretty ok when we ran around in the woods near my house when I got them in December, but I also don't know much about hiking boots.

>>939546
>I haven't even heard of Haix, Meindl, Lowa and Hanwag before.
literally a lie

>>940845
Fellow Kraut here - it's entirely possible those Bavarian brands are unknown to foreigners, AFAIK (Northern) Italy has some decent brands too (Asolo, Scarpa), so probably the frogs (they got Alps too) as well as the Spanish and Scandis,, or other folks with some mountains have their own brands too which we might not know

>>939255
from the way they're positioned it looks like you wear them on opposite feet. I had a pair of bates back in the day I got from post when I was 13. Lasted me a while too, but I strangely didn't use them out much. Never cared for the steel toe & steel shank sole with a loose fabric upper feel, so I eventually donated them.

>>926088
screencaped this

is it fine for you when it gets posted around these parts?

>>940875
OP here, dear anon. This is 4chan, everything is here for you to use forever and profit from it

>>940646
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>>927066
big 5 is a sporting goods store

>>940866
>Northern) Italy has some decent brands too (Asolo, Scarpa)
Also La sportiva, salewa, dolomite, alico, trezeta, Aku, tecnica...Surely i forgot some.

>>940866
>>941306
>>940845

I guess the most famous brand in Europe right now is Quechua (thank you France) ;^)

Do snake boots not come in camo? I have store credit with Rocky and they have a pair I kind of like. Are snake boots OK for regular wear?

From a glance I'd guess they'd be warm but not sweaty because they look like they breathe, and keep feet dry without the need for stifling goretex. Also keep snek at bay

>>930494
thank you anon for all the barefoot friendly footware. i havent seen any of these before and always struggle to find minimalist shoes for backcountry.

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>>941330
snake boots are great for if you are
A) In the middle of texas where you'll see poisonous snakes all the time
B) A fag in a nightclub and want dick n da butt

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>>941616
Snek isn't out in the relative cold but I see water moccasins every day when it's warm, never bitten but why chance it?

I've seen enough eastern rattlers as well that I have to see last think about them when I go out.

I mean. I've survived 25 years of going out without snek boot. I could probably swing 25 more

>>939952
true thru-hiker

>>925679
I have these boots, I like them. All around good boots and the only complaint I have is the shitty laces it came with. One of them snapped due to wear from lacing up after only a few months. So carry spare laces in your pack, or replace them preemptively

>>926832
Wearing these right now

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>>941184
alrighty then here you have it