Where can I learn how to turn a hole in the ground into a comfortable,

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>>917493
Then find a cave.

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>>917493

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>>917577

>>917493
>comfortable, insulated place to rest?

By bringing insulation with you as soil is a heat sink and insulates as well as your mama sucks dick

>>917587
not completely true. At first it is a heat sink, but if you manage to warm it up and keep the hole or cave heated then it can be pretty good insulation, you just need the initial energy to heat enough soil up. Think about it like this: soil or rock has a high heat transmission (lambda) value, but if it is thick enough (the hole or cave is deep enough), it's thickness will be so large that the overall heat resistance (R) value will be very high. In some places in Norway they don't insulate house flooring but they insulate the walls deep enough (5-10 m) so the pack of soil under the house functions as an insulator. If you do this it will take a while to warm up your cave but then it works pretty good. You'll need a stretch of isolation along the entrance though, otherwise the soil will transport the heat right around the entrance, but it's probably easier to isolate a stretch of 5 to 10 meters around the entrance then to isolate your whole cave or whole. Think about it...

>>917592
But i wouldn't do it in a natural cave cause you don't know if there are any adjoining caves very close. If there is another open space with only half a meter of rock in between your cave then this whole concept wouldn't work

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>>917493

OP are you the MGTOW that wants us to all live in underground chambers and raise goats ?

I big part of what I do for work these days is excavation. I can tell you this, if you just take a shovel and dig into the side of a hill, and you don't use any kind of shoring, sooner or later one is going to cave in on you and kill you.

Use a natural existing cave, particularly if in rock.

The culvert idea above would probably work, if you feel like lugging a culvert into the out, and you stick with that less than 6 inches of soil.

>>917693
Why goats ?
Pigs are much better. We should also plant some mushrooms.

>>917818
>fucking a pig over a goat
Anon, that's disgusting.

>>917818
How do you plant mushrooms?

>>917834
Put em in the ground and wait.

>>918007
why wait?
they're already mushrooms

>>917834
>Take spore print
>Inoculate sterile grain culture jar with spores
>Once jars are fully cultured, add to pasteurized substraight
>Keep moist. Grow mushrooms.

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>>917693

Wha?

No. I can't remember what gave me the thought, but it just wouldn't go away and I was just curious how someone would go about making a cave livable or turning a hole in the ground into a safe place to sleep.

Preferably without artificial materials that'll leave trash or pollutants.

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Basically this sort of thing was taught to kids back in 1929 before the world turned into a nanny state.

http://www.wikihow.com/Build-an-Underground-Fort
Here's a modern take on it.

>>917818
You're an idiot, pigs can transfer any diseases they catch to humans. Goats can't.

>>918509
I agree about the nanny state.

When I look at that drawing, I think, here is something drawn by a person with a good imagination and zero time on the end of a shovel.

Let's just say, you had the materials, like 12 ft. 2X6s, heavy treated plywood, bricks, and an excavator to do the digging for you.

You still need to add an air vent of some kind, and a pump, because that thing is probably going to fill with water in many locations.

>>917818
Try to milk a fucking pig.

>>918509

Piling shit on top of your chimney seems like a great way to die.

>>917496
Unless your name is Ted. Shit gets sketchy.

>>918634
I think that's around the chimney but we can never be sure it's just a 2d pic. Maybe it's a suicide cave.

>>918509
Damn that nanny state, preventing me from dieing of carbon monoxide poisoning in a hole in the ground where no-one will ever find my body.

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>>917493
Pic related is what you want. Dig a hole and put a shipping container in it. Shipping containers are cheap and strong. Just what you need to make your cave.

>>920059
Yeah, bury a giant coffin....................................................................................................................

>>917493
Everyone in this thread is an idiot.

If you want real good advice, go to /k/ and /diy/, they have people who actually live underground in homemade tunnels.

I'll even be nice and link a few threads:
>>/diy/1092143

>>917688
>be homeless anon
>build pic related in local park to look all spacey
>convince schoolchildren that you are time traveler

>>917493
You're a bear, aren't you?

>>918621
I do every night.

I'm married.

>>920203
>go to /k/ and /diy/
Please do not go there faggots, we do not want you. Thanks for the post dickheaded faggot

>>918708
You sound like a pussy that never had fun as a kid.

>coober pedy australia

Google it.

http://www.discodavestunnelguide.com

>>920203
>wanting to direct normalfags to the glorious kingdom of the molemen

Smite the sunbather, Gouge his eyes out so he may never look upon his burning star again!!

>>917688
Is that a thing? Anyone has some info? My vagrancy senses are tingling.

>>920059
Not this fucking shit again.

Any anon here who wants to build an elaborate dwarffortress like underground lair in his local inner city park and live like rat kings in top real estate that connects to the underground trains via secret gateways?

>>924101
See this is the sort of dastardly plan I've been waiting for.

Alright opie, I'm here to give you actual resources.
The rest of the thread is right however, putting a shipping container underground is dumb. Just digging down and putting some wood to brace is dangerous as fuck.

But you are essentially talking about making a dugout or a pit house, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dugout_(shelter)#North_America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit-house

You can of course make these deeper into the ground and have the roofs covered in dirt or flush with the surface.

Here is a reference video for something realistic and attainable with minimal funds and supplies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B6xR3T37gI

That channel is also good for other small and semi/undeground structures such as:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdLAM-wChxY

Some more inspiration for the extreme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtafqbZBESM

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>>918509
That's pretty much a covered infantry fighting position if you forgot the part where you shoot out of it.

>>917493
There was some guide that used to be passed around. Basically dig a hole, place support beams, and place planks across beams to hold the dirt back.

>>926322
You sound like a structural engineer.

Not.

What does /out/ think of Lamar, the solar cabin homesteader? He seems to know what he's doing

https://youtu.be/9npdnI7dKCg

I'd think that this would be a better option than anything underground.

>>917818
No, goats are probably the best livestock. Followed by sheep.

>>926126
man, we built that shit during basic

>>917493

https://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/5362817/812175195/name/The+$50+and+Up+Underground+House.pdf

You're welcome.

>>917688
dear god what was the story with this??

>>917493
mike oehler's (rip) underground housing instructions, for you

http://www.undergroundhousing.com/

>>930396

pretty awesome, thanks

>>917493
Just wing it and go slow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahBIeVSqnTc

Damn this actually seems like a comfy thing to do.