Fishing & Tackle Thread

>>916144
Problem is I live in AZ and have had trouble using chartreuse in the clear ass resovoir water here.
>>916140

Best reel I can get for less than 100$?
Should I be aiming for reels w/o any plastic hardware?

I just want something that will last for a while, it doesnt need to be any good besides that. Websites with reviews seem to say there are tons of options, maybe that's true and I should just pick one of the popular models but I dont trust the reviews

>>916150
Note: Im talking memecasters

>>916150
First for Shimano Caius or Caenan

>>916154
Yep or an Abu orra.

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>>916151
I was gonna say Lew's has a handful for <$100 and they seem decent. But I really like how the Abus feel while palming them and even that $60 SilverMax hasn't given me any issues in the two years I've had it.

It's worth checking out the Bass Pro reels too. I reccommend playing around with a couple different ones in a store and see what feels good.
Or search around and see if you can find a Revo S for ~$100 and buy it.

>>916150
I've bought some nice Abus in flea markets for $10-$20 and fixed them up. Usually $10 in parts will do it. My current reel is a Ambassidor 5000 that I got for $10 and fixed it with a $3 part. As long as they aren't rusted or corroded to shit youd be ok.

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Anyone from Southern Florida want to answer a question?
I'm going to the St. Petersburg area over spring break and I want to fly fish the freshwater but dont want to pay for the nonres licence. Does Fish and Game actually patrol and check? Is it absolutely necessary?

pic is Montana Brook Trout

>>916176
I'm sure it's like everywhere else and you could get checked at a popular spot. But you could still buy a daily or 5-day oe whatever they have and it will be reasonable. Chances of getting checked at most spots are probably slim but the consequences of getting caught without the license are rough.

>>916154
>>916155
>>916159
>>916167
thanks very much

>>916176
Buy a license you cheap fuck. Those actually go towards funding wildlife programs, at least in my state. It's the one time where I'm actually happy to give my money to the government.

>>916144
>pic

I know her! She fished at my pond!

>>915964
>Just looked up what it would cost to have it stocked all at once by a hatchery and lets just say... fuck that... it would be around $9,000 for minnows, crayfish, bluegill, crappie, perch, and bass to be stocked according to the nearest hatcheries website. That's also not including delivery.

So...like half of Pepsi's yearly tackle fund. Still well worth it.

>>916176
>Does Fish and Game actually patrol and check? Is it absolutely necessary?

Yes and Yes. That's another way they get money.

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>>916150
Lew's or Ardent

>>916216
Neither

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Feathers and baggies arrived today. I'm patiently waiting for the hook bonnets so I can see how they will interfere with dressed hooks.

>tfw stuff just left Suzhou

I hate it when a company doesn't list where something is coming from. At least there's free shipping.

>>916201
i always get one in my home state, but yeah im a cheap fuck will probably get one

>>916201
In slot of states money goes into a general fund then the conservation etc gets the scraps
Stupid tbqh

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>>916230

>>916234
so fucked to think I had to pay 45 maple dollars to fish in Quebec for 5 days. Shit was so fucked

>>916234
>Live in a state that honors other nearby states fishing licenses
>Can literally go to my states waters, catch limit
>Return to dock and drop off fiah
>Go to nearby state catch limit
>Go to dock and drop off catch
>Go to other nearby state catch minutes and drop off

>>916237
Creel limit, possession limit, and daily limit are different things. Guess which one prevents you from doing what you described in many states.

can i get some brand recommendations for a ~$150 drop shot / shaky head / finess rod? whats the best i can do at this price range?

im looking for a drop shot/ finess rod. looking for brand recommendations, whats the beet i can do for ~$150?

>>916245
>>916246
/out/ moves bretty slow m8, no need to bump the thread.

And regarding your question, go fuck yourself. Finesse is for faggots and hipsters.

>>916246
Rods are so much preference but I reccommend checking out the Bass Pro Johnny Morris rods at least.

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personally don't do that because I barley eat fish anyways and even if I did a limit is more than enough for one person but I know a few guys who did do that for a while

It's still nice to be able to go to a hand full ( maybe half a dozen) of different states and fish with only my one license

>>916249
Was supposed to quote >>916239

Whoops

>>916246
literally any medium action 7ft spinning rod. anything that's between noodle and catfish sensitivity wise works for this kind of fishing. I use some old kunnan glass rods for that style of fishing.

>>916253
You like medium rods for that? I tend to like really fast rods for that stuff because with the braid I can feel exactly what the bait is doing. And then medium action rods feel good for spinners and stuff where you can rip them around and they end up with a more smooth and natural look.

But it's the same thing I always say about rods- so much is preference. I would just end up reccommending a fast actuon medium weight rod like that Vendetta since it is fast enough to give decent little twitches but slow enough to feel good ripping other hardbaits across the lake.

>>916260
I do a lot of my rod and reel fishing in rivers that hold trout and shoal bass. The medium helps work the fish closer to me and keeps the trout from shaking the hook. the sensitivity is okay for jigs and shallow cranks in the 1/8-1/32 range and they toss real nice on 6lb mono

>>916269
basically what he said

>>916245
>>916246
>>916247
pardon the double post friends

>>916253
>anything that's between noodle and catfish sensitivity wise works for this kind of fishing
What did he mean by this?

>>916286
not too stiff or something that'll wiggle a lot like an ice rod i bet

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okay bow from not too long ago

>>916295
.....holy hell people this stupid give fishing advice

>>916295
But that has nothing to do with the sensitivity which is why I'm confused

>>916295
>>916286
>>916303
>>916317
A "noodle" is a pool noodle used to float fish for catfish.

>>916319
That makes it even more confusing lmao

>>916319
>he thinks some sloppy tier wobbly glass pole or something as sensitive as a floating pool noodle bait soak operation is good enough for light sensitive bites from a drop shot

Sweet christ.

he means a medium action rod holy fuck not that hard to figure out

>>916325
He basically said "hurr durr durr a bicycle powered by a weed wacker motor up to a TT isle of man race motorcycle will work just as well for a work commute" except it was about fishing pole types.

>>916324
>>916323
I'm not >>916253 but that is the only "noodle" I know of other than "noodling" which is catching catfish using your hands.

>>916151
Lews
>>916176
Get a licence you fantastic prick
>>916302
>brown from Dec. 7
>>916319
It's also sticking your hand in to a hole to rip out a catfish (noodling) or an extra slow action rod usually for trout fishing that allows for use of lighter line/smaller hooks without the fish shaking the hook or breaking the line

>>916331
Noodle is a device, noodling is a technique.

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>>916328
>fishing pole types.
Reeee
Rod*
Pole=stick with line tied to it
Rod=stick with eye guides and a reel on it
Educate yourself
A pole is a rod in the same way a nail is a screw

>>916331
>>916302

Forgot pic

>>916335
Pole and rod are the same thing. "Fishing rod" is a pole used for fishing.

>>916325
But what is "noodle" and "catfish" sensitivity and how that relates to the action of the rod. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

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>>916335

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>>916338
You're forgetting that he's retarded. There is no sense to be made of it.

>>916337
A fishing rod has a reel on it. A fishing pole is a bamboo, fiberglass, graphite, or composite stick with a line tied to the end.

>>916346
Every rod has a pole.

>>916338
It is like getting whipped by a wet noodle.

>>916348
A pole stops when there are eye guides and a reel seat added, just like a nail stops when it's threaded and slotted.

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>>916350
That's an incorrect analogy though.

Skid-kun plz stop I'm embarrassed for you

>>916340
goddamn these crack me up, and I dont even dislike the dude

>>916346
explain "rod /and/ reel" then...

skid you're a nut

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what do you think about this rod locker?
I would need them wider for bigger reels..

>P-I-M-P

>>916376
Just remove one of the stands for wider access for the fuck huge reels.

>>916363
>>916351
Well what is a rod? It's a pole with eye guides and a reel seat
And what is a screw? Its basically a nail with a slot and threads.
A rod and a pole both do the sAme job. A nail and a screw both do the sAme job- rods and poles both help you catch fish, nails and screws both hold wood together. A rod can be used just to dip a bait in the water with no use of the reel, and a screw can be smacked in to a piece of wood with a hammer, but that doesn't make the screw a nail or the rod a pole.
Where is the anslogy bad?

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>>916226

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>>916376
>hoarding assault rods

>>916382
I'd like to see one with a sparse tail of hair with some hackle over the hair to fill it out a little.

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>pardon my shit posting
>blame beer makers
>when you see it
>you will believe it
>do you feel lucky?

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>>916385
Yeah, I'm still playing with the final design. Hair has always been an option. There's plenty of room for more hackle too. That was only 1 feather. I also want some sort of tail ribbon.

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>>916363
plz refer to teh google
>>>916369 >>>916372

>>916369
>>916372
>>916389
>A fishing rod is a long, flexible rod used to catch fish. At its simplest, a fishing rod is a simple stick or pole attached to a line ending in a hook (formerly known as an angle, hence the term angling).

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>>916382
love the homemade tools man.

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Skid is right. Pole=/= rod.

Also here's a shrimp I got some of the other day, They look alright, we'll see if any fish like em.

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>>916390
how many ugly stiks do you have?

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>>916362

>>916393
I honestly don't know. I don't know what any of my poles are; nor the reels. I just use whatever I happen to find at yardsales on a whim.

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>>916391
>swimbait for gay bass

>>916396
rad

>>916390
>just copy/pasting from Wikipedia
Anything rendered to it's simplest form barely resembles it's self.
A motorcycle in its simplest form is a weed whacker engine in a bicycle. A boat in its simplest form is a few logs tied together. Metal in its simplest form is angry surfer music. And we distinguish these simplest forms as separate things, mopeds and rafts. While a moped is a type of motorcycle, is a Harley a moped? While a raft Is a boat, is a boat a raft? No, it's not. And if you said "look at my motorcycle" while pointing at a moped, or said "let's go out on my boat" while pointing at a raft, everyone would think you're an idiot because of the clear differences. So why is it okay to say "look at my pole?" And point at a fishing rod.

>>916392
Thank you
Not sure if that shrimp is weird or cool though
>>916396
Live shad?

>>916392
You should rig that so it swims backwards

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>>916399
You are illogical and use logical fallacies.

>>916404
No, you fail to see the importance of proper terminology.

>>916405
Sure thing, kid.

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>he picks the minnow
>he puts the minnow inside
>the minnow swims inside lure
>predator fish dont see plastic
>they only see minnow
>minnow is safe
>fish dumb
>fish eat minnow in plastic tube
>minnow safe
>you happy catch fish
>minnow smile
>he safe

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>>916396
i would put 1" netting on the top of that....

>>916408
Minnow dies from being cast like a fucking rocket and hitting a rock.

>>916408
kek

>>916234
thank you Peps sorry for being a cheap prick

I'm thinking about buying one of the Fenwick Eagles you guys have talked about, but just wanted an opinion. Would a medium 7' one piece pair well with a Spinfisher 4500, or should I go with med hvy?

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>>916408
>minnow hits the water
>minnow dies

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Probably not gonna get any info but does anyone in the Mobile, AL/surrounding area know any ("good") freshwater fishing spots that don't require a boat?

I'm tired of fishing saltwater piers and would really like to switch it up.

>>916470
Damn, lots of rivers and tributaries over there.

You gotta scope out little lakes and ponds in commercial, industrial, and residential areas that aren't overfished. They are normally smaller where it is easy to fish from shore plus they keep the grass cut so you aren't walking through tall ass shrubs.

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>>916470
>>916474
Dammit

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>>916477
It's funny you post that because I know that exact area. Only problem is there is a huge ass sign next to that pond that in big ass bold font that says "NO TRESPASSING or FISHING. VIOLATORS WILL BE PROSECUTED".

Most on the lakes/ponds in the area are on private property.

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>>916482
Yeah most of the places I fish are private property too but if you go to a business park on a Sunday morning and just cast around, you will probably be fine. It helps if you are white.

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Ice fishing time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxQw9HoXN-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGH7rghsQw

>>916386
needle in a fucking hay stack. I need luck like that.

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Found these on craigslist, saved the pics. Will steal the design and make one day.

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>>916525

>>916351
she doesn't even try to get a good shot of the fish. it's all about her

>pink reel

oh for fucks sake

>>916482
The no Trespassing/Fishing sign is how you know its a good spot.

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>>916391
Cheap and effective.

>>916407
>kid anon
Should have known it was that dunce
>>916408
Interesting
>>916540
And she's licking at the fish. She's a whore, not a lady.

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i'm making a deeper swim rig today.

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maybe a couple of em'

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>>916558
>person who suggested drilling, tapping and putting screws in a Z's rotor so you can spend 5 minutes unscrewing all of them every time a single drop of water fell in
>calling anyone a dunce

This is some top tier skidposting.

>>916570
Post more info about that modded Z there. What paint did you use? Did you strip it first? How'd you cut the grooves- a dremel?

>>916570
I was talking about a reel with no slots or shit, and was talking about a large checkered screw you could do with your finger just to let water out quickly without having a wide open hole to all your inner workings. More of just a drain plug than a screw. Not a dozen bitty little pin holes
>2 full turns it pops out
>drain water
>2 full turns and it's plugged
How fucking hard would that be to do?
Besides I was talking about the body of the reel because I.misunderstood what they were talking about slotting in the reel

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>>916575
why have to do all that at all?
just drill a few holes and it drains as it needs

>>916572
its like 4 threads ago, i asked him.
i think it looks bretty gud

>>916540
>>916558
Y'all niggas is gay

>>916575
>>916582
Lol the length you're going to to defend a silly idea. It's nothing against you but cmon mate what does that offer that an unplugged hole doesn't?

I see no good reason to fuss with a screw or plug.

And I don't care if the hole lets sand and stuff into the reel - the point of this reel is that it's a tank and easy as hell to disassemble and clean. Plus the hole itself will let me dunk it to rinse debris out without really worrying. If it ends up rusting which it won't if I take care of it who cares it was 40$ on eBay lol

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>>916572
Paint
>stripped it with aircraft paint remover
>sanded it and wiped it down with alcohol
>used aluminum primer and let it dry for 3 days, don't use regular primer
>forgot to sand the primer like an idiot and sprayed it with 3 layers of automotive paint, let it dry for a week
>sprayed it with 2 layers of automotive gloss clear coat

Slots
>made a template with graph paper and taped it on to the sides
>drilled a hole on the top and bottom of each slot, used a dremel to cut between them
>filed them clean
>used a drill for the bottom holes.

Bailess conversion
>used a dremel to cut the bail close to the roller
>used a dremel sanding drum to shape it and make it round
>finished it off with a good sanding

>>916585
In the spool there is none, I thought the slots were going to.be in the main body with the gears and grease. In that situation, the advantage is you don't have sand grinding in the gears till they're smooth. I admit that where the slots are plugs are worthless. I admit I read wrong. But if you drill a hole in the main body of the reel sand will kill it

>>916588
Maybe a modern reel. I'll post a pic of the internals on the main body. I seriously doubt sand could fuck it up. A rock, sure, but this thing has giant thick as fuck machined gears. And will be packed completely full of marine
grease - so it shouldn't need any drain holes


But ya I see what you're saying

>>916587
TY mate. Did you just have a sprayer around? Idk if it's worth grabbing one for one project. How awful would doing it by hand turn out

>>916588
There's no point in that either. The side plate has literally one large flathead screw that can be taken off with a coin.

>>916590
All I'm saying is I thought someone wanted to.cut slots in the body of the reel, for some reason or another, and I was saying open holes to the inner workings of the reel was a bad idea

>>916585
They are contrarians. Pay them no heed.

>>916594
You obviously no fuck all about speed holes, kid.

>>916176
FWC will fuck your shit up for at LEAST 70 - price of license AND a fine. Don't be a twat - you want to fish our waters, donate to our fish and wildlife.

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>>916567
What is that comb-like structure called?

>>916598
>kid anon
>>916630
This

>>916425
How are yall about to recommend a rod, but then not answer a question about it? Seems legit

>>916649
Thats a lot of reel for that much rod. A 2500-3000 would fit better favoring 2500. Id get a mh minimum.

>>916651
Thanks I appreciate it

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>>916649
Medium does seem a bit light for the 4500 jeezy.

You shoulda posted a pic of a cute grill fishin if you wanted lots of responses.

How much weight u tryin to cast anyway? And what line? If you go MH, just play around with some and make sure the action works well for whatever u are casting.

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>>916598
Honestly

>>916667
Bought any new lures in the past hour?

>>916684
Nah, I have been tryin to restrain myself with Xmas this weeknd. I still need to buy somethin for my mom and I have no clue what to do for her.

I should've just like filled a shopping cart with lures and emailed it to everybody in my familu so there is something besides clothes.

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Anyone have experience with these buzz plug things? It looks cool so I got one.

>>916695
That's cool. I feel like regular buzzbaits can be too big of a target when the bass aren't super feisty so that may help in that situation.

>>916695
I'm betting the designer of that lure was high or drunk and happened to think "dude, what if I switch the hook and blade to the other sides?"

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>>916696
You can buy some wire and buzz bait blades in many sizes. Then you can make all sorts of sizes and styles.

>>916696
my thing is i hate how fast i have to rip a buxzz bait, allegedly this will stay at a float even while still, so the bas dont have to do a huge chase to get it or if they miss it. i can reel it slower, pause it, whatever, and i think it will work. i got it in black specifically for morning and evening.

>>916699
Different buzzbaits run at different speeds too. Get one with a fat blade and run it on braid and you can go pretty slow. But between the speed and the shape of buzzbaits, you do end up with a lot of near misses.

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Look out creek dinks.

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Prototype for a reel I'm actually going to make someday soon hopefully.

>>916702
even the lightest one i have with a fairly big blade runs faster than i like. i just dont care for buzz baits and im wondering how ill like this... when the water thaws

>>916640
pinch weight

>>916667
Just needed one solid response, but thanks. I usually use a 3/16 or 1/4 oz jig and would respool it with 20lb braid.

>>916732
You could do that on a M with Fast or even X-Fast action for sure. Or a MH with Med-Fast action and that will have a similar feeling at the tip as the faster M but will have a bit more backbone if you land something heavy.

You better get a 300yd spool of 20lb braid for that 4500 because that fucker will hold a ton of line. Might even take more because lots of those saltwater spinning reels have deep spools and hold a lot of line.

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Hit a 22 zebra midge on the drift. Getting a streamer setup for xmas so hopefully there's more active fishing in my future

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>>916705
>>916707
lol nice. I have a dink rod too.

>>916760
No pic but I found a collapsible UL 5ft cane pole and put some 2lb mono on it. Pretty solid dink pole and I caught a 2.5lb flathead with it

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>>916760
Why not just get an ice rod?

My grandpa is retiring from competitive bad fishing and offered to give me some of his equipment and lures. I have plenty of the technical stuff already, but his lures are tempting, but I'm primarily a trout guy. Does bass fishing and trout fishing overlap at all when it comes to which lures to use?

>>916783
>Does bass fishing and trout fishing overlap at all when it comes to which lures to use?

Not at all.

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>>916783
>saying no to free lures
>ever

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>>916758
Beautiful. Brookie? My brown was an ugly bastard that sucked down a #20 pheasant tail
>pic related
>>916776
That's what I was thinking
>>916783
Very seldom I'd say. Maybe some of the smaller soft plastics.

>>916788
I'm not turning those down, in case I try for bass. I'm just curious if I could use any for trout as well

>>916787
in-line spinners definitely

worms and grubs?

Also dont they hit rapalas?

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Late birthday present from my parents. It's a 13 fishing Concept A. Gonna buy some near colored parts for it later after I get a rod and stuff.

>>916802
What's your price on it?

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>>916760
nice bobbin reel bro. ingenious. I will have to make one someday.

What did fishermen use as line in the old days?

I guess it depended on their environment and trade connections.

I imagine they didnt have enough to make long cast, and preferred net fishing too.

>>916736
Oh yeah for sure, I usually get 600 yard spools for around 20 bones, so no biggie. All my set ups are med hvy with #40 braid, so I'm looking for something more finesse, making it more challenging

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>>916802
love that reel almost as much as my bb1.. trickshop that thing.

>>916813
linen & dacron

>>916818
>>916813
Don't forget silk, old fly line is waxed silk
>>916811
Did you make those?

>>916806
$175

>>916816
I've got some ideas. Idk what to do with the spare parts tho lol.

>>916822
Backing off

>>916411
Made me chuckle and wake up the significant other

>>916886
Kek. Sorry mate but the idea of launching a live fish in a plastic reverse submarine at Mach 5 from a bait caster is hilarious.

Glad you got a laugh.

>>916887
>Live fish
>plastic reverse submarine
>Mach 5
>bait caster

Please stop she's getting angry now
>top fucking kek

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>>916888

>>916888
Tell her this is important, super-sonic minnow killers are more important than sleep

>>916802
I like the little cork handles on those. Let me know how it is. I'm always hesitant when it comes to those newer companies because I know I can always get parts for my Abus and Pfluegers. But I went through with the Lew's and we'll see if they stay around.

>>916776
Probably because it is a joke.

>>916800
Most times you have to have a dressed hook for bass and a bare hook for trout. That is the main difference for inline spinners.

>>916980
>>916800
Bass will hit bare hooks on inlines too. Almost any predatory fish will hit basically the same lures but different sizes and some prefer different colors but a natural gold will always work.

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>>916800
>dont they hit rapalas
trout will hit little swimmers
If you're netting the trout to land it the lure may get all FUBAR in the netting though

>>916816
Love the logo, are you local?

>>917016
Yeah that shit sucks. That's also why I refuse to go above Size 10 Rapalas for bass. They add the 3rd treble hook for Size 11+ and they get caught in everything including the fish's body and face.

>>916983
Any fish will hit any lure. However, the best inline lures are dressed hooks. It is the difference between getting 5 bass a day and 20 bass a day if you want to use a poor example.

>>917016
>>917039
I'm literally in the process of designing and pricing a light weight, stainless steel "chainmail" fishing net using 1" split rings. The cheapest I can find is about $0.16 per ring. Thus, it'd cost about $50 for an adequately-sized net for average-sized bass I think.

As much as I search, I can only find fetish clothing when searching for a net of this type on google. Anyone else have luck finding such a net online? Finding SS cable "netting" is easy enough.

>>917039
You can remove extra hooks or even replace them with single hooks. If you replace the treble hooks with weedless hooks, they should never hook the fish outside the mouth and will hook your nets far less. You may need some split rings, if the lures don't already have them. In that case, cut off the eye of the original hook and replace it with a split ring.

>>917039
Just take the middle one off mang

>>917047
>>917016
>>917039

why wouldn't you just get a rubber net? takes two seconds to get any lure out and the fish cant twist it all to shit when they are in it

>>916789
Skid, his is a brown as well

>>917051
Rubber nets don't last very long. They dry rot and crack. I've had a couple. When I buy or make something, I want it to last several lifetimes when it is taken care of properly.

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>inline buzz baits

I want to make some of these and different variations of them. They typically come in this style as well has dressed treble hooks. The blades are fairly cheap and I have the wire already.

>>916209
I would fish in her pond if you know what I mean

Speaking of lures + trebel, why don't they just told with one octopus hook on the back?

Theoretically it simply hooks them as you pull the lure out of thier mouth. And that's all that's needed?

>>917057
not sure how you're using your net but Ive had the same one for 5+ years and the rubber is the exact same condition as when I got it

>>917055
its a weird looking brown then, must still be very small/young cause it still have those little rays
>>917058
do it

>>917079
Rays?

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>>917113
Lack of a better term. The little ovals that brookies have and all trout have in youth.

>>917156
Parr marks.

>>917066
They strike from diffetent angles. Predators will often come from deeper down and strike baitfish near the surface so that middle treble helps. You can always swap out hooks but you will eventually miss a fish you woulda landed with trebles.

>>917048
That will rub my 'tism the wrong way

>>917079
Yeah looks like a small brown
Relitivley young they look like that

A Brooke of that size would have grown out of those colors by now plus anything caught this time of year would probably still have wicked spawning colors

Though different strains of browns look different at different ages

Courtlands are pretty plain and average

Seefs grow stupid fast but don't have the best colors

Plus there can always be differences within the species depending on hatchery vs native fish
Plus where shit lived also can change its coloration slot

Plus some hatcheries feed their fish certain feed which can improve coloration etc ( though ive only ever seen it used on larger fish )

Need recommendations on cheap reels

I'm totally setting up my ice fishing shit for this upcoming year and I'm going to need to buy maybe half a dozen reels
(And rods but I have that figured out mostly)

I know the go to is the sienna but was wondering if anyone knew of anything cheaper and still decent
Or if anyone knows of someplace I can find the sienna for 20 instead of 30

>>917254
>Or if anyone knows of someplace I can find the sienna for 20 instead of 30
Dicks

>>917258
Their website doesn't have the 1000 size Wich is what I was hoping for

>>917254
just stick with the sienna, I got the Abu Cardinal sx10 in the spring and its honestly a piece of shit.

As for where to find them cheaper, Idrk, It looks like the older models go for around $20-$25 so maybe you could look into that, If it were me Id pay the extra $5 to not have that faggy light blue colored spool though.

>>917261
I'd have no issue buying one of the new ones for $30 but if I'm going to buy half a dozen of them that's $180 and the rods I'm going to be putting them on are only $10 each anyways

I have some cheapy ice fishing reels but id like something more solid

>>917254
shimanosedona fec 2000 and 1000 are like $16-$18 on amazon right now. I have no idea what's the C part at the end of the FE is for though. Sedona in generally is supposed to be a tier higher than sienna reels though.

>>917264
what do you need them all for anyway? I jsut have two. My main one I keep in my hand and my backup that I sometimes will rest against a bucket in the whole next to me if the bite is a little slow.

>>917272
Thanks that Amy be just what I'm looking for
>>917275
I like to have a handful of rods with different stuff tied on with me so I don't always have to untie and retie

Plus I often fish 2 rods at once in 2 holes side by side with different offerings to find out what's wanted

Also going to have some of the rods on homemade jawjackers when I feel like fishing for walleye or bass

Also I help teach a kids ice fishing class and sometimes I have to lend out rods

>>917254
Okuma Stratus V at Dick's. Best $30 reel and it looks good. 10 is the UL size, 25 is like L (4lb or 6lb mono), 35 I think is M.

>>917261
You don't like the Cardinal SX? I have had one for like 5 years and it's def solid for the money. They redesigned it slightly since then tho.

>select all images with Piers
Where are all the brown people?

>>917279
Yes, I hate it. Worst spinning reel purchase I've ever made. The spool wobbles when I reel and it makes a slight rubbing sound as it rotates. I've torn it down and done everything I can to stop this but its just wont stop wobbling, things junk

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>>917281
That sucks. Mine does make a little hum but nothing where there is any resistance or issues. And obviously it isn't wearing out since I use that reel a lot and still no problems.

I still want to grab another one of those Okumas some day. Might just get a 35 or if they go on sale again, grab like a 10, another 25, and a 35 because I like them so much. And that 25 is the perfect size for 10lb-15lb braid and going for anything from panfish to larger bass. The reels are just butter smooth and they look good as well. I definitely prefer that to the Sienna.

>>917285
It doesn't inhibit its ability to spin and I can get solid 10 spins if I do a fast turn and let it spin on its own but that noise it makes and wobbling triggers me a lot

>>917288
whoops

The next spinning reel I get will be the 2500 size stradic ci4+

if any other reel in that size and weight range goes on sale after x-mas I might cop that though

>>917288
Idk what the wobbling could be. Maybe it got bent somehow either in the shipping or at the store or you bent it without knowing. Did you get the combo or just the reel? If it is newer, I would send that shit to Abu and get a new one.

Or just wait for the Stratus V to go on sale for $29 like they always do and grab one.

>>917290
Those reels look sweet too. I would consider it if I wanted to drop that kind of money on a spinning reel.

Who was it that bought the W&M reel for $60 on that flash sale? I still kinda regret not getting one of those.

>>917291
I bought it by itself from Shitmart. It was in the plastic packaging so I dont really so how it could get bent but maybe idrk.

Ive had it since the summer, only thing wrong with it is a few small scratches on the shitty little chrome piece on the bottom of it. Think they'd let me return it or something?

>>917297
It probably has a 1yr warranty through Abu so you would have to send it to them. But Walmart is pretty lenient so maybe you could go in there and say you got it for Xmas and threw away the packaging and used it for the first time and noticed it was messed up. I bet they would let you exchange it.

>>917304
hmm.. Might have to give this a shot in a few days. Ill tell them I took it ice fishing and its garbage. Worst that could happen is they say no.

>>917305
They don't give a fuck. Everybody will be returning stuff after Xmas. Especially if you say you just want to exchange it for something else, 99% chance they will do it.

And if they don't have anything good in the store, get store credit on a gift card and use it on Walmart's website. They have tons of shit on there.

Story Tiem:
>be me, dumb bored kid in HS on a Saturday night with friends
>have a brilliant idea, everybody pitches in a few $$ and we go to Walmart and buy a $40 microwave
>bring it back to my house, cook anything and everything that is supposed to be cool or bad to put in a microwave
>aluminum foil, CDs, marshmallows, whole eggs, etc
>by the end, microwave is totally shot
>put bag of popcorn in it and it takes 10min to pop one kernel
>microwave is full of marsmallow, bits of CD, and chunks of egg
>box it back up, bring it to Walmart saying it stopped working
>they give us our cash back

>>917312
lel, Ill exchange it for a sienna and be a happy lad.

Only problem Is the Cardinal has a whole spool of 6 pound braid that I gotta figure out how to get off without wrecking it

>>917315
You have an extra reel with no line on it? I like to do that on this old Quantum reel I have if I need to transfer line like that. Otherwise just hand spool it onto whatever but it takes a minute to move 150yds of line.

>>917321
I tried that one time. Lets just say I ended up throwing out almost an entire new spool a #30 braid because it was so tangled. Im just gunna do it by hand, hopefully it doesnt take forever

>>917073
Lifetime =/= 5-10 years.

I'd rather pay $200 for something I can pass down than $50 for something I'll have to pay $50 again for when it breaks in the next 20 years.

>>917330
I feel the exact same way. This was the first reel I strayed away from that concept because I cant accept paying a lot for a small reel that I will only use to perch fish. At lease the sienna should hold up for a while if they let me swap it

>>917330
>>917333
oh whoops I just saw the (you) and assumed you were talking about the reel.

That net was only like $25 which is less than I pay for some higher end lures. If and when it breaks ll just get a new one

>>917330
Fuck it, if a net lasts for 20yrs, I'm straight.

>>917333
Checked.

And even cheaper reels will normally last bretty gud as long as they come from a good company and aren't plastic. I would be more concerned about the $500 reel with all the carbon fiber parts not lasting as long as the $60 President. But if you buy a $1000 solid metal conventional reel, that fucker should last a long time.

>>917330
>>917346
Shit if a reel last me 10 years of everyday use I'd be more than happy with that. Mechanical things fail that's just how it be.

>>917357
>fly rod
How?

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>>917361
cast, put rod under arm and 2 hand strip into a stripping basket...

>>917333
>>917338
>>917346
Most of my gear is second hand. I'm owner # whatever, but have owned this stuff for 15-30 years.

>>917367
Wut?

>>917386
I was thinkin about one of those Pandora charm bracelets for my mom. I wonder if she would like that charm.

>>917201
That's the term
>>917357
Okay I'm curious
>>917361
Cast and quickly throw the rod under your arm, drag line in one hand over the other. You can move a lot of lube super fast that way
Or if it's really light, cast, strip strip strip like normal, it will jig>>917363
a little

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>>916144
Next thread pic please

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>>917391
skid.. thats gay..

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>no chaps

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>>917361
could also do loong slow strips

is catch and release even a thing when it comes to large ocean fish?

>>917405
yes.

>>917405
I'm pretty sure there are plenty of large ocean fish that you're not even allowed to keep. I'm not exactly sure on these because I don't live on the ocean or fish salwater ever, but Goliath Groupers and Sawfish come to mind. I don't think you're allowed to keep either.

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Caught my first ever fish through the ice today! What a blast. Felt like a monster on my little ultralight rod. She's a dink but one of the most beautiful fish I've ever caught in my eyes. I don't know why I never went sooner. I'll never go another winter without catching a fish again.

>>917293
that W&M Skeet Reese carbon lite
Me & it's a piece of shit. I loved it at 1st. Was like butter, then got all clunky like stripped or loose gears. It's ripped apart right now and I've greased the fuck out of the guts. Maybe once I reassemble it but I'm thinking it is going back.

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>>917417
Nice swimbait.

>>917417
Nice dink, I wanna try to ice fish
>>917405
Absolutely. Many fish are caught and released.

>>917433
>>917451
Thanks. Its a lot of fun just being out on the ice imo, makes you feel like an eskimo or something. The vast span of whiteness and cold whipping air is sort of a trip. Its really relaxing as long as you're bundled up.

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>>917461
Only once in the past 50 years has it been cold enough for long enough to allow people onto the local lake. The ice was 9 inches thick. People were driving 4-wheelers around on it and shit. It was making making creaking and cracking sounds the entire time, but never broke.

Most of the winters it may get -40F but a few days later it'll be in the 40F-50F range. Normally the thickest ice is 3-4 inches because of such fluctuations.

>>917476
dumbasses... 12 is the min for vehicles and I'd still never.

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>>917502
GET GOOD SCRUB

>>917079
neither. it was 12in and dropping eggs in the net. the ones around here seem to keep the parr marks until they get over 15in.

>>917506
thats really weird. but theyre pretty. also, im amazed how many people ive talked to who fly fish and dont have anything below size 16 or 18. in ohio at least, all our midge larvae and mayfly nymphs are tiny as shit, ive never seen a mayfly nymph in any creek river or lake that could possibly be bigger than size 16.

>>917513
down south and 8 months of the year i'm fishing big flies but nov-feb i usually stick to stuff below 16. midges are often below 20 with the bigger stuff being peach eggs. i'll sometimes throw some bigger flies if there's a hatch and i'm running bluelines for brookies

come summer i'm keying in mostly on native river bass and stripers i'll be pulling size 2 articulated streamers on the 8wt and fatty size 12-8 foam terrestrials and hoppers on the 3. it's warmed up a bit so i may pull out some bigger red ant patterns next time i hit the water.

>>917516
aye. trout ae super limited here in ohio, so i spend mosst of my time chasing bass carp and pike on my 8 weight. ive yet to land a carp or hook in to a pike though

>>917522
seems like ohio is oddly not a very out state. i've got a river ten minutes from my house in atlanta that i can go to and catch browns, bows, stripers, 3 species of black bass, and large panfish year round. never bothered going for carp. we've got two species of small pike in small numbers but i've never hooked into one.

>>917422
You should try and get the $160 in store credit and buy a Stradic.

I wonder if the memecasters are any better.

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Beginner question,

How the fuck do you guys fish freshwater lakes that are riddled with nothing but weeds/logs? There's this lake I've been hitting up, going to go there this morning as well.

The fish bite there, however, the biggest pain in the ass is fishing through the weeds and logs that are fucking everywhere.

Even with a typical weedless set-up on a lizard/worm, I drag a plethora of fucking shit that I have to scrape off the bait. It's not a big deal but jesus it's annoying doing it every time I throw it out. When I reel a fish in, it's almost entirely covered in shit.

Not only that but if I ever want to wacky rig something I get caught up on sticks/logs, so that's out of the question for me. Which is a shame because that's what I get the most fish on.

TL;DR: Any way easy way to avoid hook getting snagged on logs?

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>>917593
Eh you are kinda limited in lure choices if you can't find any clear spots unfortunately. Braid helps in those lakes because you can still drag fish and lures out of the weeds. I like to cast Texas rigs out past the weeds, retrieve them slowly right to the edge of the weeds, and then just rip it across the top of the weeds so I don't get caught up. Those Storm and Tsunami swimbaits with the single hook on the top work bretty gud in those spots too, they don't hang up much.

>>917593
When you're fishing around logs be gentle when you feel the lure bumping into them. i think it helps a lot with snags if you aren't slamming the lure into the logs lol.

For fishing over grass I like weightless senkos, chatter baits, lipless cranks, and top water.

Looking for anyone who ice fishes
I'm in need of rod recommendations
Looking for a relitivley short (24-27 inch)
Somewhat stiff but still flexible rod to use with my jawjackers

>>917660
they're all pretty similar. Just go to the nearest place that has a decent brand selections and see how they feel in your hand. My personal preference is a 27" medium light

>>917667
For jawjackers use?

I have jigging rods but need to find some for my jawjackers

>>917660
At what point is it no longer fishing? I mean we have bait casting devices, hooking devices, and reeling in devices. We could literately hook this stuff to a raspberry pi and have it do everything for us while we sit back, drink beer, and shitpost.

>>917667
>>917668
Jawjackers are best used with med and med-heavy rods. Too light and they won't set the hook properly.

>>917670
At least I jig with one rod when I have my jackers out

I rarely use them only the few times a year I go out for walleye

>>917668
No I just meant in general, for those id go a little heavier.

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It is a bit annoying to want to go fishing, but not being able to because of ice that isn't thick enough to even stand on.

>F5 F5 F5 F5

>>917671
I have one rod that works really well with them but can't find it anywhere online

Maybe Il run out to Cabela's sometime next week and pick a few rods up

>>917524
Oh carp are fun I have a hard time getting them to take the initial bite but they fight hard. I've heard then called golden bones and compared to steelhead. It's not the same kind of fight but it's hard, it's like if you tied a rope to a garbage truck, where the others are like you tied off to an f1 car. Same power, different application of force
And all Ohio has is deer and steelhead, other than that it's worthless.
>>917690
What happened here?
>>917692
Cabelas whipping stick ice had a lot of back bone when I handled one, they're cheap too

>>917703
>>917524
>carp
>Oh carp are fun I have a hard time getting them to take the initial bite

I find that chumming with bread balls works really well. Doubly so if the area is a tourism spot where people toss bread to them.

In Ohio there's the spillway at Pymatuning Reservoir on the Ohio/Pennsylvanian boarder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbB7myFQb7s

They enter and exit that spill way on the other side of the road where you can fish for them and catfish.

>>917708
I want to get in to fly tying so I can make some patterns to look like corn and some to look like bread
Here's something that would be funny
>throw corn
>cast corn fly in to it
>wait for carp, just sit on the bank waiting

>>917711
When unprepared, my group snipped some white sock tops off and tied little balls of it just about the hook. Worked like a charm.

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>>917711
Carp are bottom feeders. They eat plants, larva, worms, invertebrates of all kinds. Red worms, drifting plant matter, and crayfish patterns are usually the best. Corn, dogfood, and bread patterns exist and work well in areas where carp are familiar with those things.

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>>917721

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>>917785

>>917721
>>917785
>>917787
Noice

I'm so fucking ready for a 3 day weekend.

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>>917660
>jawjackers
Is this some kind of joke?

In all seriousness, what is it? Like a tip up that sets the hook for you?

>>917843
Cabela's sells them and you are correct. There's also a company of the same name who makes a line of oddly-painted crank lures

>>917618
Pepsi. Im the anon who only used to use ugly stiks. Thank you for suggesting the lightning rod this shit is 20x better than any stik I have. I will probably just give them to my younger brothers. I bought a sellus too and it honestly doesnt even feel as good as the lr (and I'm generally a shimano shill).

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Does anyone here have experience with catching pike? I'm going to be spending some time in northern Canada and would like to go fishing for these beasts. Are they good fighters and how are they for eating? If they aren't fit to eat I will just catch and release.

>>917897
I don't think they're most people's first choice but I'll gladly eat some pike.

>>917897
And yes, they're good fighters. One of the best fights you'll get in fresh water. Use a leader because they have sharp teeth.

>>917843
Basically I have some home made ones

Really only for when I go walleye or pike fishing
Just because regular tip ups aren't easy bought ;)

>>917907
I have heard that a large pike will attack small dogs or even children who are swimming. Are they really that badass or is that a myth? Also, I'm just looking for some bush meat to fry up at the lake, not a gourmet meal.

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>>917897
I go to northern Canada every year for Pike. They are definitely good eating but usually we try and get a few walleye for eating and release all the Pike since usually all the places you Pike fish up there have tons of big (better eating and easier to clean) walleye. They're pretty easy to catch too, finding big ones on the other hand is not

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>>917922
Whoops, I really got start paying attention with this trip shit
>>917920
Na a big Pike isn't going to attack and kid or a dog lol. The monster's are territorial but they usually roam around big deep areas of water. And like that one anon said you need a leader, whether it be steel or fluorocarbon.

My favorite Pike attacks are when you arnt even trying to catch one and you have a few feet of line out and your just running your lure back in forth by the side of the boat when your changing locations and one will come up and slam it right there 2 feet away from you. It'll get your blood pumping for sure

>>917875
Yeah the Sellus rods are a bit heavy without being super sensitive. Those Lightning Rod Shocks are just great all-around rods. They remind be of a $100+ Abu like the Veritas.

Maybe I will convert some more people who thought Ugly Stiks were the end-all of rods <$70. Even if you wanted to go a little more expensive for your next rod, those Fenwick Eagles feel nice and Dick's has like $10 rebates on them a ton although I'm too lazy to mail it in for $10.

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>>917929
>your just running your lure back in forth by the side of the boat when your changing locations and one will come up and slam it right there 2 feet away from you.

This is the standard method for reeling in for me. I'll do a figure eight in the water for about 30 seconds. It has resulted in many strikes and catches.

>>917875
If you find one get a no. 8 blackout. They're very good rods. I've seen some people say they haven't held up, but I've had mine for a good while now and it's still going strong so I don't know what their problem is. They were $80, but they stopped making them so you might be able to find a good deal on one.

>>917963
They stopped making them? I see a box full with at least 50 in there every time I go to Gander. You get a free hat when you buy one too

>>917982
>I see a box full with at least 50 in there every time I go to Gander.

That may be the very reason.

>>917982
Yeah i guess they're gonna go to a different design. I swear my one no. 8 hat is lucky.

>>917984
Like I said some people have been having issues, and I'm sure it hurts a smaller company more.

so i caught my first carp today, but i'm not sure if i did it legally. went out lookin for bass but the swamp i usually fish was frozen over completely. Hiked down farther and found this stream type area and saw a school of like 12 big carp moving around beneath the surface. didnt have any sort of carp bait with me so i just tied on a treble hook and threw it at them. to my suprise i managed to snag a 20 something pounder. and then another, and another.
was crazy fun fighting them and pulling them in but i feel kind of bad about it in retrospect. hook tore a big scale off a few of them and one was bleeding a bit. not sure how fragile carp are. i think they are an invasive species here, my state is open season no limit year round, but i dont like killing a fish if i'm not going to eat it.
should i feel bad bros? didnt really think about it at the time, just wanted to catch a fish.

>>917660
I use Ugly Sticks with mine 26 inch Light for bluegills and perch

>>918010
Snagging is pretty faggy but I mean it's a carp so it's not the end of the world, im sure they'll be fine

>>918023
Gross

>>918010
Carp IS an invasive species and you should kill them if caught. They dont taste bad either as long as you cut out the mud vein

>>918010
Check your laws. Snagging (intentionally) is illegal here and it's a pretty hefty fine. I feel the same way about killing fish I'm not going to eat, but carp do incredible damage to ecosystems so I don't feel too bad.

>>918035
There is one lake I have been to where there are signs saying specifically not to target the carp there and to release them if you do catch them.

I don't know what the law is, but I guess they introduced the grass carp as vegetation control and they are non-native but not considered invaisive around here.

>>918011
is that a Beaker pattern?

Deni anon take a squiz at this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3EPsfpAud4

>>918045
I don't know. I make things up as I go along. Looks closer to a Trouser Worm than anything else.

>>918049
oh it was a joke. it looks like beaker from the muppets

>>918050
Good joke, but I don't remember names of characters or people.

>>918011
What do you use to extend the fly past the hook? Is it just the stem(¿) of the feather?

Oh god it's good to be home with a cold beer.

>>918050
Meep

>>918038
They could be sterile.

>>917712
Might try that in the spring
>>917712
A pheasant tail gave me my most bites. I tried dragging a carp candy and landed a gizzard shad I want some bread flies for mullet too, a guy said a 3 pound mullet on a 6 weight is almost as fun as a bonefish on an 8
>>917897
Don't eat them,, they're an apex predator and vital for the ecosystem. Let them go
For catching them, #50-80 mono about 10 inches long with a fuck huge inline spinner. Figure 8 it at the side of the boat
>>917920
50/50
There is an account of a minnow biting someone's foot in Michigan, and he needed stitches.But it's so rare
>>917929
It's rare but it is documented
>>917922
Get a 9 weight fly rod for steelhead, salmon, and pike. I usually hate odd number fly weights but if you need one rod for big pike and salmon/steelhead...
Could also target carp with it
>>917957
Is this tiny and close up or a weird fly? It's cool looking
>>918010
Carp will survive a nuclear holocaust, that being said snagging carp is legal in most states, but unless you're planning on killing them for bait it's kind of a dick move
Dont worry about it too much, but kill them next time, a raccoon or coyote will thank you
>>918060
I think it's a small bundle of wire tied to the hook to extend the body. A lot of people do it with cocktail for extended body mayflies

>>918082
>minnow
Muskie* fucking autocorrect

>>918083
I hate getting bite by minnows.

>>916150
ignored almost everyone's advice and got a Black Max

>>918096
There's nothing wrong with them. Mines held up pretty good, but I haven't used it as much as my other reels.

anyone know a good 7wt rod in the 100-150 dollar range?

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>>918074
Nothing like coming home to a cold cunt.

>>918109
Samaki, google that shit.

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>>916376
> wasting valuable floor space for fishing rods

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>>916144

Thread is at 300+ posts, how about making the next Fishing & Tackle Thread ice fishing related.

It is December after all and some of use live where the water freezes in winter.

>>918132
We'll try!

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>>918127
Did you miss the posts on how heat destroys your mono?

Disregard if that is an unheated garage space.

>>918109
Cabelas CGR if you can find them

>>918109
What action do you want? Slow, moderate, or moderate fast?
>>918167
Opps