Eurofag here. Tell me about the Great Lakes. When I see them on a world map I think of them kind of like the Caspian sea or even Baltic sea. Is there shipping on them? What about going /out/ on the lakes?
>>895385
There's a ton of shipping on them, hell if your country isn't landlocked I guarantee that a boat from it has come up the St. Lawrence. I live at the western most tip of Lake Superior and the possibilities of doing /out/ activities is pretty much endless. Canoeing, fishing, sailing, even surfing.
>>895387
Do they freeze over in the winter?
I'm in NJ and don't know much about them either. I know people that go to Ontario for some monster lake trout but we mostly just go to the shore for water related sports.
>>895394
pic related
>>895400
they catch sturgeon too right?
>>895387
this basically sums up my knowledge of the lakes. tons of shipping, and tons of out.
i hear it can get pretty choppy.
my recollection is that most of the land around the lakes is relatively sparsely settled so im sure theres tons of out.
my uncles favorite place on earth is near lake ontario in new york, and i have a friend who lives out that way, so ill get there some day.
>>895400
I've heard in lake Ontario you can get charter boats and go salmon fishing. That's pretty cool in fresh water
>>895404
>i hear it can get pretty choppy
I sailed from the North shore of Georgian Bay (northern lake huron) to Detroit MI/ Windsor Ontario.
We were supposed to go to Toronto except lake Erie was too rough. The ship I was on was 72feet and waves were crashing over the bow.
One of the coolest experiences was being in the middle of lake Huron with no land in sight, we dropped the sails and went swimming. That was cool.
But yeah the lakes get pretty rough, and despite being the smallest, lake Erie was the roughest
Pic related, that is the ship I was on. That pic is either lake Erie or lake st Clair
>>895385
has the worlds largest island in lake in and island in a lake
>>895413
On lake Huron?
>>895409
>sailing ship
thats the dream mate
>>895417
It's a charity from Toronto that own 2 ships, then rich white people pay to send their kid sailing for a couple weeks. I did it when I was 17. Everybody on board was under 25. It was a lot of work and almost everybody got seasick and we all got lice, but definitely worth the experience. The ships were T.S. Playfair and S.T.V Pathfinder
My dream is to one day own maybe a 30' sail boat and complete the trip. We never made it across lake Erie or into lake Ontario.
The problem with the lakes is all their contamination. You have to be careful about what you eat from them because of mercury. Also I got E-coli and lockjaw just swimming at grand haven once
>>895442
You mean you got tetanus? That's what lockjaw is.
I highly doubt you had tetanus.
>>895442
Lake Ontario and lake Erie have cleaned up a lot since the 80s because of environmental efforts such as removing phosphates from detergents and better water treatment. The risk of heavy metals has also decreased.
And i doubt you got tetanus because that shit can kill you and you're probably immunized
>>895385
I live, and have lived on lake Superior my entire life. Minnesota's long stretch of shore heavily influences everything around me. The North Shore is a wonderful place to meet tourists, explore, and fish. I've lived in a small town for much of my life and worked, most recently, at a hardware and sporting ship while setting up my career and let me tell you, people come from everywhere around the country and the world to visit us.
The BWCA is my absolute favorite place in the world and couldn't exist without the great lakes. And while some travel days by car to come see it, I am lucky enough to pack up my car and go on a whim.
>>895453
Wrong. Lake Erie is in a terrible state. Pollution is at an all time high. There are signs up at almost every beach saying that there are dangerous bacteria and enter at your own risk.
>>895463
It used to be worse. Also bacteria has to do with sewage in that area, it's not indicative of the lake as a whole
>>895463
Literally nothing you said contradicts his evidence you retard
>be American
>antivax religitards prevented me from getting state funded inoculations while in school
>pay half my income for Obama care
>contract tetanus from swimming in polluted American waterway
>family sells the house to pay for my hospital care
>lock jaw never recovered, I can never suck a dick again
So is life in Michigan.
>>895485
Kek
>>895385
I live near lake Huron. It's pretty nice, I guess they could be considered our fresh water seas. Although I don't think much if any trade between Canada and USA happens over the lakes. That's probably all done by rail or truck
>>895406
I can think of at least a dozen charters that leave from the port where my camp is on Lake Ontario. Ive never thought of it as something weird being that its fresh water, is it?
Duluth, MN reporting in.
>>895394
Not completely, at least not in a long time.
>>895413
He is referring to Isle Royale, the largest island on Lake Superior. There is a lake on the island, within this lake is a small island, within this island there is a pond, within this pond is a boulder.
North Shore Lake Superior is some of the best landscape I have ever seen.
>>895755
>heard immunity isn't a public health issue
>>895757
In Ontario there are a few. The Ontario government stocked coho salmon here and they spawn in a river near my house
Lake Huron has an island, that has a lake, that has islands. An island in a lake on an island in a lake.
>>895785
I live in NY, the run in the river (pic related) on the other side of the camp just ended. Thousands upon thousands go up it every year to lay their eggs. such a cool thing to see every year
>>895798
When I was younger my dad used to take me down to watch, i haven't seen it in a while though
Teenagers in my town got arrested last spring for harassing the salmon run and they killed a couple fish
I take drunk college girls out there until you can't see any land, and sacrifice them to Gods. Just throw them over.
>>895760
I'm in Superior and the lake almost completely froze two fucking winters ago. You forget about the 63 days in a row of below zero weather or something?
Also, you excited for the snow storm? It started raining a little when I was on my way home from work tonight.
>>895813
Thunder Bay?
>>895802
It's the implication
>>895813
I am! I hope it fucking sticks around. I usually hate the first snow since it melts the next day.
>>895385
>Tell me about the Great Lakes.
it got to nearly 70F today, almost 2/3 through november
tomorrow it will drop about 30 degrees and there is a chance of snow
this is MI
>>895849
Troll? I dont think anywhere in the UP hit above the unseasonably high 55-60
>>895853
LP....out walking after sunset and it was still in the 60s according to a sign
>>895849
whoops, by tomorrow, I meant Sat-Sun
got my days mixed up.....Fri is supposed to still be nice
>>895846
It's just Fort William, William Henry is in New York
I mean, kids go there for school trips, it's very relevant to Canadian history and the fur trade and all but it's still a cool site for visitors
>>895857
gotcha, I figured it had to be down south. Only hit the low 50's in Houghton. Hopefully hekki lunta will bring the snow soon
>>895394
lake erie freezes pretty deep.
In the 70's some guy walked from Cleveland to Canada
>>895459
Superior's North Shore is one of my favorite places in the world. I try to get up there at least once a year from my home in Wisconsin, most often to the Boundary Waters/Quetico
>>895867
Cool, I'll definitely try to make the trip up there soon then.
>>895768
came here to post this song. if the lake can take a ship this large, it can get pretty vicious out there. RIP in peace
t. tearful Minnesotan
>>895385
I used to live on the "Door Peninsula" which is that little piece of land on Lake Michigan.
It's pretty fucking based. Tons of public land, endless /out/ shit, there's islands, huge forests, cliffs, bluffs, lots of nautical scenery.
Cool place.
>>895813
It's still pretty rare for the lakes to completely freeze over. I don't think Lake Ontario ever has.
>>895677
These days most international freight goes by container ship to the coast, then by rail or truck. Lakes shipping is mostly bulk freighters carrying iron ore, wheat, and cement.
Picture related is a typical lake freighter offloading raw sugar at the Redpath factory in Toronto.
>>895942
Edmond Fitzgerald?
>>896026
Big boat that sunk in Lake Superior. The largest of the great lakes. The roughest tends to be Lake Erie, coldest and deepest is Lake Ontario iirc.
>>896045
Lake superior is deepest for sure
I don't think there's anything special about lake Ontario
Georgian bay is objectively the best part of the great lakes
>>896050
Ontario is the smallest by surface area if that counts. Erie gets choppy because it's the shallowest but I think Superior gets the biggest waves (up to 30 feet).
Daily reminder that Lake Superior never gives up her dead
http://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2015/nov/13/unforgiving-lake-superior-never-gives-up-her-dead/
>tfw I'm on Lake Ontario right now
>>895387
Hello Duluth/Superior I'm from TBay
>>896225
Nice anon, i did a dinner boat cruise a few weeks ago with my company
What kind of vessel are you on?
>>896255
Chicagoin here, I like lake Michigan she's super cool, love that it's all fresh water.
They need to do something about the pollution in it though, with it being next to chicago, I really don't want to know what's down there
They also need to reverse the Chicago river so it goes into the lake to recharge otherwise in 1000 years there will be no lake
>>895387
hey neighbor (Superior's east end here)
I can back up the other Superior shoresmen, at least on the western end. the North Shore (Duluth, MN to Thunder bay) is gorgeous, mostly cobblestone beaches, and cliffs (the Sawbill mtns make up most of the shore) the towns of Two Harbors, and Grand Marias are lovely little burgs. the WI side is mostly sand beaches and low hills comparatively.
>>896255
Just the Toronto Islands ferry. Now i'm nestled in the dunes behind the island airport watching the planes land and waiting for the sun to set.
>>896295
How goes your storm? It's barely sticking at my house in Billings Park.
I'm honestly surprised there are like 4 of us from the Twin Ports in this thread.
>>896300
Yo wanna be my friend? I'm heading to around Royal York station rn i could be downtown in an hour
>>896293
>They also need to reverse the Chicago river so it goes into the lake to recharge otherwise in 1000 years there will be no lake
Wasn't the river originally reversed anyway? Also apparently a river which flowed into James Bay was reversed to flow into lake Superior to counter the water lost to the Chicago river
>>896300
>watching the planes land and waiting for the sun to set
I've never done this on the island but a fun date with a girl is to take the Bathurst street car to Queens Quay and walk down to the lake and watch planes take off and land
Gets bitches wet
>>896313
Sorry m8 I didn't check the thread again until I got home
>>896318
>girl
Damn, I knew I forgot something...
The islands are a great place to bring a date but I never would have considered plane watching.
Here's the sunset
>>896482
>low test
>>896487
>tfw when i have no face
>>895385
>>895385
If you want to do the great lakes Michigan kind of wins.
>to many to quote
A big part of the issue with roughness on the lakes is wave frequency. The potential is there to get very beat up.
>>896487
Is this better?
>>896494
Nah, i still think the phone camera pic is better.
>>896473
Just be my friend
>>895768
I heard this song for the first time on the radio just today. Good song.
>>895768
is this the Gord Downie song about a boat that crashed in Bobcaygeon
>>895385
All you need to know:
The wreck of the edmund fitzgerald:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A
>>896473
Nice photo
>>896533
Nice song
In Moby Dick there's a chapter where they meet a lakeman from Buffalo
He talks about how rough superior is
>>895483
Get vaccinated, you inbred sack of shit. You must realize that tetanus is not a problem that rational people in the 1st world deal with.
>>896501
Why must you be so autistic
>>896618
I guess, but I've had it 4 times since I was a child and kicked its ass every time, im really not too worried
>>896642
>raped 4 times
>still no whistle
You may never learn...
>>896619
I was vaccinated
>>895387
I hope you mean Duluth and not Superior
>>895768
I did not come here to feel these feels again...
>>896134
Not to mention Superior is always cold, being spring fed, so if your boat goes down or flips in the middle of it you're in for some serious hypothermia at the very least but most likely death even in the summer
.
Lake Ontario had fantastic salmon fishing in the 90s. Thousands of people flocked to Toronto just to fish. The government doesn't stock as much anymore so the glory days are long gone.
Despite that the lakes are beautiful, diverse, and perfect for almost any /out/ activity.
Kingston and the Thousand Island area is gorgeous
first snow of this winter today in lower MI
ground is still too warm for anything to stick, supposed to stay cool though....might start seeing accumulation early next month
>>896927
Them don't listen to this (radio traffic during the search, mostly between the captain of the Arthur M. Anderson and the coast guard):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1fOWi0teiY
>>896936
Couldn't you just swim to shore?
>>896982
It doesn't help that zebra mussels fucked up the food chain.
>>897010
Well yes if you're close to it, but it's a long swim in 40 degree water so it would be difficult to maintain the activity level needed to stay warm. That's if you know which direction to go and its good weather. It's not a guaranteed death sentence but Superior is not to be fucked with, especially in late fall or when it's storming.
>>897037
>but it's a long swim in 40 degree water so it would be difficult to maintain the activity level needed to stay warm
The swimming would keep you warm. Also as to your other point about direction who cares just pick a direction and swim there. Worry about direction after you get to shore. Seems weak desu
>>897043
Swim across it then nerd
>>896541
And cold as all hell. I swam in it in the middle of August, and it was still freezing.
>>897043
pick the wrong direction you run out of energy and die, I'm not getting into an argument over this, it's happened to many people.
>>897047
>comparing American swimmers to eurocucks
Fail
>>897043
>The swimming would keep you warm.
This is posted at the local boat ramp.
Also like >>897047 implies, crossing the smallest of the lakes is an all-day swim the shortest way.
>>897043
You're dumb as hell, anon.
>>897043
>The swimming would keep you warm.
It doesn't work that way
>>897572
Develop your hypothesis
>>896045
Lake Superior is the deepest Great Lake dumpass. It's one of the deepest lakes in the world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Superior
>>896525
>>895385
Its a bunch of polluted inland seas full of lampreys.
>>897583
Water being lower than your body temperature will draw heat out of your body faster than your body could keep itself warm
>>897663
They're not that bad and lampreys arent very common anymore
>>897043
The average human can tread water for 5 minutes before drowning, do you think you can swim for hours straight? This isnt saltwater, you wont float
>>897714
>The average human can tread water for 5 minutes before drowning,
Is that all? When i did my life guard certification we had to do 10min fully clothed
>>895385
That peninsula that goes out into huron northwest of toronto in the bruce peninsula its beautiful up that way even in the winter some pretty based trails and theres a pretty cool grotto and cliffs if you like rock climbing
Indiana here, great lakes are full of factories trash and spics. went to a great lakes beach and there was a giant factory to my left. only good innawood places are the islands in the great lakes
>>899730
>Indiana
Well there's your problem right there
Chicagofag in western Michigan at the moment.
Sup
>>899730
American here. Indiana is full of slack jawed, meth head cousin fuckers.
>>899730
Gary, Indiana sure is a shithole. Doesn't make the rest of the great lakes bad.
Isle Royale is a few miles away from Thunder Tay and is an /out/ist's paradise.
>>899959
*is bad
forgot pic
>>896525
got here late, but kekked
>>897716
Yep, thats why people like you exist