Fishing & Tackle Thread

>>848691
>But is it 4 dollars better?
yes. the material they use on scum frogs is much cheaper and the hooks are shittier. ive lost two scum frogs due to them getting ripped in half. never had that happen ever with any other brand of frog.

How do I fish fast-moving rivers for smallmouth? I've had some success casting to slow-moving areas near fast water, but that only works sometimes. How can I read the river?

>>848701
How much line can that reel hold and what test is it?

>she's gonna get her wrist slit touching the line like that!!!! D:

>>848701
Pepsicuck get in the salt

>>848708
Probably a penn something or other
And it probably holds 500 yards of #100 mono

>>848708
thats a Shimano Tiagra and the biggest one is rated for 2,445 yards of 100 pound test mono

>>848707
Gotta find dat underwater structure. At least from everything I have read. Cast upstream and bring the bait back down right along the edge of that slow moving water where the bass will be chilling and waiting for baitfish to come by.

>>848716
Skid BTFO kek

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>>848701
Caught this on a rebel crawfish close to Gatlinburg, that mountain water felt damn good

>>848720
Was it one of those tiny craws? Do you just bounce them off the bottom pretty much or what?

>>848707
How fast is fast?

>>848726
Yeah, on a rocky bottom you just run them so they bounce, scrape, and look like a panicking craw

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What's the difference between pic related and regular mono for leader material?

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>>848701
Whenever I see big ass reels like that I have the urge to make sure they are tethered to the fucking boat.

>>848739
Spool size and price per yard
It's hard to find #80+ mono in less than 500+ yard spools

>>848741
How are they attached? Those things don't look cheap, it would suck to lose one when you hit a wave or the hook catches something.

>>848738
I still get nervous doing that, but those things have that odd shape and deep diving angle where they seem to bounce off stuff pretty easily without hooking up.

I should fux with those tiny ones at that clear peacock lake next time I'm there. It anything the Mayans will go for it.

>>848745
Yeah they're surprisingly hard to snag on hard bottoms
The lip catches then they sust kinda pole vault over the rock and the fish seem to really like it

Should you only throw topwater baits if you see fish feeding off the surface?

>>848745
they're bolted to the poll. those rod holder things they are in are pretty deep, no amount of bumps or hook snag is going to make them fall out

Are you allowed to fish ponds at golf courses or do you have to be a member?

>>848754
I do all the time. just gotta either ask someone who could give you that permission or just go if you know you wont get caught like me

>>848754
my $15 gives me all access to any body of water on Gods green earth

in the state of illinois

>>848763
Pretty sure a golf course is private property

>>848763
>>848764
lmao yeah.. a fishing license doesn't apply to private property dude..

>>848736
13 FastPoints™

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I want to go saltwater fishing while on vacation.

What is a good rod and reel combo for me and my dad?

We are not fishermen and this would be our first time fishing.

What kind of line/bait do you need to catch things in saltwater bay/oceans?

Will not be on a boat but will be on shore/pier.

>>848786
Just get a cheap berkley pier combo from walmart.

>>848792
Like this?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Shakespeare-CMFSURFPIER8FT-CMF-Combo-8-Fishing-Rod/27124310

>>848793
Yup

>>848786
How much are you willing to spend? The best general purpose bait is shrimp. Get some live ones from a local baitshop.

>>848754
Depends. Ive fished gulf courses without any issue here in florida. I get more shit from HOAs. Basically if its a natrual like, nobody can own it. And it has a 15 foot easement around from the CURRENT waters edge. If its named. Fat chance its natural. But check your laws first.

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>>848745
>>848753
They actually have a place under the reel on the bottom of the pole to attach a tether. That is what the blue cord is on this rod. All the poles in >>848741 have the loops for them, but there's no tethers.

I've inherited about a fishing kit with about 70 flies in it from my granddad. I don't know the first thing about fishing, is there a good way to find out what each of them's for or if they're worth anything?

>>848768
In most states they do if someone else owns it who isn't your parent or child.

>>848796
Prolly around 60 bucks max.

Id rather go under that though.

>>848821
between bait and everything? That's cutting it close.

>shakespeare tiger
>eagle claw saltwater tacklebox kit
>frozen shrimp or squid

>>848793
Yeah but don't use the line on it
Get some #20 Berkley big game clear ($10)
Then buy some #50 mono for shock leaders, rigs, and bite leaders ($10)
You'll want to also buy a pack of regular barrel swivels($3), snelled hooks either size 4 baitholder or size 1 Aberdeen($3), some needle nose pliers, some pyramid sinkers from 1 ounce to 3 ounce (at least 3 of each($5)) and some gotcha plugs (I like red head with white body, pink with yellow belly, and red with yellow body, get one of each)($15) then get a bag of fishbites blood worm scent ($4-$5 should last the whole vacation) and a box of frozen squid ($5 should last the whole trip
Tie a few rigs like this
>Swivel
>6 in #50 mono
>Dropper loop
>10 inches of mono
>Dropper loop
>6-10 inches of mono
>large surgeons loop to attach and change weights
Then use a loop to loop connection to put a hook on each loop

Tie 20-30 feet of #50 mono onto your mainline with an improved blood knot or Albright knot, then either tie on a rig or a gotcha plug with a Palomar knot or improved clinch knot
To use te fishbites just follow the instructions on the package
To use squid defrost 1 or 2 squids and grab a sharp knife, cut the tentacles off and set them aside, then remove the mantle from the "head"
Throw the head in the water as chum
Cut off the little floppy things on either side of the mantle, cut those into strips, then put them with the tentacles
Cut up the length of the mantle and scrape out the guts so you have a sheet of squid, and toss the guts in the water
Cut the sheet of squid into strips 1/4 inch to 3/8 inch wide, then trim those to an inch long
That, the tentacles, and the floppy things are great bait

Fish the gotcha plugs with sharp jerks while reeling if there are blue fish or spanish mackerel around
You'll be landing fish plenty

>>848819
I'll give you 25 bucks on PayPal to mail them to me

>>848824
Nah for just rod/reel

>>848825
Why is line bad?

Not sure im quite up to all those knots yet. I am going on vacation in like 2 days.

>>848826
Would you have sex with a furry fox for 25 bucks?

>>848827
The line is old, won't cast well, and weak
If you're really worried about remembering all the knots just tie 5 or 6 rigs with the computer in front of you then buy a few of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0084EFCGG/ref=mp_s_a_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1472601641&sr=8-11&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=quick+snaps+fishing and have them shipped express to wherever you're staying
Then you won't have to remember any knots, just tie them all in the hotel room with the video helping you and you just have to clip on the rig or lure you want to use

Just make sure you call the hotel and tell them to expect a package for you

>>848828
If you knew anything about furries you would know foxes are disease ridden sluts that will sleep with anything for free

>>848701

that reel & pole is attractive

>>848720
>I'm going to break this fish's jaw for a good picture I'm showing to 12 people on a Mongolian Colon Cleansing Forum!
why

>>848825
>your posts are like science experiments but I don't read them

>>848833
kek

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>>848846
>greentexting this
>being this new

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what's your go-to color?

mine is California 420

>>848840
>Pole
REEEE
A pole has no reel or guides
A pole is a cane pole
That is a rod
/Autistic rage

>>848843
>i want to be kool too guise... Reeeeeeeeee

>>848853
>>848848
>>848833
>>848831
I still liked it more when skid was dead and not shitting up every thread by making 20% of the posts autistic garbage

>>848849
Usually either pearl or pumpkinseed

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>>848848
this, anons

>>848856
He's contributed more helpful information than you ever will, faggot

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>Posters: 4

Nice """""""""""""""sport""""""""""""""" you have here fishfags

>>848859
his "information" is copy pasted from google and is 99% garbage that isn't helpful at all and actually detrimental to newcomers because it's autistically complicated.

I post helpful things in every thread as anon, skid. Kys.

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Favorite Saltwater lure and fish you target with the?

>>848860
That's the page number, you dip.

>>848866
My favorites are:

Black+yellow devil horse topwater plug (trout/redfish)
Mirro Lure 2000 (trout)
Johnson sprite 3/4th oz gold/silver (gold for redfish and silver for trout)
Original rapala (flounder)
red jig head + white Gulp! shrimp (trout)
red jig head + chartruce grub tipped with cut bait

Sorry for so many but there are just so many I use. If I had to pick just two I'd go with the gold spoon & the gulp shrimp. Texas rigged Gulps! are also very effective on the grass flats too.

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Reply with favourite FRESHWATER lure and target

>5" Zara Spook in all gold
For me, fishing at its best is seeing a largemouth hit your topwater after playing it just right on an early morning near a fallen tree or other cover

>>848861
>copy pasted from Google
Actually I've not googled any of this

>>848874
Just proves my point more since you live in a land locked state and have been saltwater fishing a grand total of about two fucking times.

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I got a couple more videos up the other day.

https://youtu.be/VLT1kuBy8s0

https://youtu.be/Mubs3GDBuXA

Also found a fishing spot with great potential today. Pulled up this little dude on the ultralight. I'm glad I finally got something on that lure, it had never caught anything up to that point.

>>848821
>>848824
>>848796
where are you going on vacation anon?


Go to a local tackle shop and ask them

I went down to ocean city MD a few weeks ago, and the guy there was very helpful and actually pushed me towards the cheaper rod and reel combo as I had never done saltwater before, it was 19.99

id say buy down there, or, for like 15 bucks, you can just rent

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>Rebel Teeny Craw

I love using this for summer trout, shoal bass, and redbreast in rocky creeks and rivers.

>>848881
I see these all the time in walmart and get the urge to try it. It's been atleast 5 years of eyeing this thing, I'm finally gonna give it a try. Looks like a sunfish & dink slayer

>>848883
that and the green cricket pattern will clean up sunfish.

>>848873
Smallest size panther martin, black body, gold blade mostly for trout.
Zoom tiny fluke baitfish color as a general purpose lure.

>>848875
>>848875
Actually I go to the outer banks of nc with my family and spend two week's fishing the salt either every summer or every other summer
And furthermore nothing I've said is wrong
Gotcha plugs are the go-to for blues and spanish on the Avalon pier, my daiwa beefstick has held up great to everything from catfish to rays, sharks, and plenty more over the past 10 years, and for under 30 bucks I wouldn't hesitate to pick up another one
I'm easily 5 times more passionate about saltwater fishing than I am freshwater, and, more likely than not I'll be in New jersey in mid October risking mugging, or murder by a crackwhore while fishing for blues and striper
I know what I'm on about, and have actually given advice to people who live in nc and saved their fishing day
Just because I don't live on the ocean doesn't mean I don't know about the ocean

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Still looking for advice on rod and reel for saltwater.

Will a 7' rod be fine for beach and bay fishing?

I am about 5ft 6 with shortish arms.

Should I go longer?

Will shakespeare catch more be okay for once a year week of fishing an hour or so every few days?

>>848887
Okay?
I've fished saltwater every week for 15 years of my life. You're an idiot and the only people who use the rigs you suggest are tryhards who are new to the sport and think they need to overcomplicate things.

For the love of god just crash your retarded shitbike already.

>>848888
You want a rod where you can lob your bait as far as you can get it... Assuming your using like 6oz sinkers. A 7 foot should get you 100 yards easy.

But i always fish from piers or wade/walk shallows near mangroves

>>848890
>who are new to the sport
That's exactly who I'm explaining to
Want me to teach them how to run a trolley rig? Maybe they'd be better off if I told them they have to buy a 200 dollar surf combo and learn to cast 100 yards if they Want to catch anything, if they're inexperienced and I told them "just tie up a fish finder rig" they'd see everyone else using two hook dropper rigs and feel like they got bad advice, decide that everyone here is an idiot, and never come here again except to tell everyone here that they're thick
Plus if they get into a mess of spot or Crocker or similar they'll be so excited to pull them in two at a time, they won't want to stop, they'll want to pitch a tent at the pier.

I'm not trying to teach them how to be professional anglers and land a 70 pound cobia in two days, I'm just trying to put them on some shitty little spot or croaker so they can wet their feet.

>>848888
see
>>848878


just buy it when youre down there at the local shop, someone who knows the area will give you great advice, and it's better to get that kinda help in person

>>848901
>step one: tie carolina rig
>step two: dig sand flea/bait hook with shrimp
>step three: walk into surf and cast with $30 walmart pole

Holy shit it's almost as if you don't need to buy into all the bullshit that the newbies at the pier use? drop rigs are the most retarded thing I've ever seen and every time I see someone using them I automatically assume they only know what they're doing from online guides and idiots like you.

>>848878
LBI NJ.

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>>848873
Literally this

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Does anyone know if this is a largemouth or spotted bass?

>>848905
Hell, if we want to minimise cost
>Go to pier
>Buy shrimp
>Rent pre rigged rod for 6 dollars

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>>848910
Here is another photo.

>>848922
Spotted probably

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Any bass bros around?

Didn't have a scale and my friend pulled this bass onto my boat last week, any ideas on weight? Seemed pretty monstrous.

>>848927
I'm no expert but id say 6 pounds
But I'm not good at guessing weights

>>848859

Not all contributed info is good contributed info, retard.

>>848927
Holy fuck that's a beautiful fish
Good work anon

>>848859
I concur that Skid is is super informative and I don't find it to be overly complicated at all. If anything it's detailed to a tee

Also Skid, moving the 5k Battle II onto the Mojo was the right move. The balance was great. I'll probably try the 6500 just to prove out how perfect the 5k is.

>>848954
Here's hoping you land a nice fat striper, glad you had that 5k sitting around
Maybe get a heavier 12 foot for the 6500 to heave eels and bunker on fish finder rigs

>>848701
>I know TXfag is sick of it too
Meh. I'm glad the lakes are staying full. Normally they're really low this time of year. I wish it would only rain at night though, instead of when I'm trying to do shit.

>>848716
>2,445 yards
Can you imagine the huge clusterfuck of a birdsnest of almost 1.5 miles.

>>848849
Chartreuse pepper mang

>>848927
At least 5lbs probably more

>>848894
>6oz sinkers. A 7 foot should get you 100 yards easy.
really?

>>848927
What did you catch this on?

>>848964
crankbait

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>>848959
yeah, I've got an 11' I can toss it on.

Have a Scup pepsi-style

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and a pissed off puffer

>>848881
This is the exact same lure I was using to catch this >>848720
It's honestly the best lure for guaranteed fish

>>848967
That should be a good combo
>>848968
>Pepsi when we tell him to go try salt

>>848963
you really don't realize how small 100 yards is until you measure it out. most of the time 100 yards is the center part of smallish lakes.

and yeah 6oz is about right. with my 7' medium action rod, I get about 15 yards for every 1oz. but because physics, after about 3oz or so, It starts dropping off. I have a friend who use to have these crazy 1lb lead sinker weights, [upside pyramid style] that we use to toss on the end of our poles, and see how far we could lob them down the road... [no where around here you need shit that big] I could get about 50 or so yards, with a 5'10" pole. lmao

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>>848981
what 100 yards is off a pier.

>>848890
+1, I don't even read the whole post

>>848909
>using outdated lure technology

>>848968
How do you even unhook this?

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>>849077
Time to get on the X-Raps

>>849077
>he doesn't twitch original floating rapalas near surface
They got it right with the original but of course keep releasing new X-Flap XD tech technology and meme colors to separate plebs from their money
>wut is bizness

>>849080
He as snagged in the tail end so I used needlenose on the hook and twisted. I've caught with normal hooking mouth before and if I don't have gloves (which I normally don't) I'll grab/hold puffer with a rag and dehook.

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>>849088
Some of the new stuff is pretty great, but I would never talk shit about the Originals and Husky Jerks. Sometimes when all the new $20 baits are failing, a good ol' Mepps will get the job done.

>>848825
And you guys wonder why people that live near the ocean don't fish in it....

Do you guys think fishing with lures/tackle from the Dutch beach is worth it?

tfw relatively boring fish waters ;__;
Wish Tuna still lived near the Dutch shore.

>>848720
Too bad you killed it

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Anyone have any experience fly fishing in salt, specifically Indian river lagoon area?

Currently the water is pretty murky so I've been using bright colored crazy charlie's/deceivers but I've had no luck so far this year. The only time I've seen schools of red move are in the marsh ponds that are virtually inaccessible without crawling though the marshland. I'm guessing my problem is not being able to reach the schools, but I should at least be able to land a spotted sea trout.

Any advice on color combinations or some technique worth trying?

>>849118
That shits still murky? Idk I dont live over there I live in kissimmee but... Fishing in the mangroves is some of the best fishing ive done, just wading. But its fucking killer on ur skin.

>>849124
Yep, it's still like fishing in budget brand chocolate milk. Some of the ponds like the one I mentioned before are getting clear, still dark due to the tannins but you can see though it.

Haven't used anything but a Texas rig for months now and have been consistently productive

>>848720
Nigga you netter be careful fishing with any bait that has trebble hooks in that area. IIRC most streams are special regulation single hook artificial bait only.

>>848927
Nice fish anon. Hard to guess without a sence of scale. Maybe next time take a pic of the fish beside a dollar bill or something (for scale)

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>>848743
jinkai and momoi both sell it in 25yd & 50yd leader spools

>>848866
a box surface and yoyo irons
a plano of stick baits
>yellowtail
>yellow fin tuna
>blue fin tuna

>>849177
Yeah I know, I wasn't directly in Gatlinburg though. I was technically in Pigeon Forge so I'm pretty sure I'm safe, but I was definitely careful just in case

>>849177
>single hook artificial bait only.
What's the purpose of this rule?

>>849232
I guess to prevent unnecessary damage to fish due to retards using treble hooks? Honestly I have no clue, if you've ever fished before you should know how to safely remove treble hooks without mutilating the fish. Probably since it's so close to the national park they have to be strict.

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Soooo....Zoom Horny Toads. Do they float? Do you rig it just like a texas rig? Do you fish it like a topwater frog, jerking and waiting in the thick stuff? Anything I'm missing/pointers?

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Story time.

At the Galveston fishing pier last night doing some bottom fishing (bait and wait) as we call it here in Galveston with my buddy. Old man maybe 20 yards away, his reel starts screaming like he hooked a boat. He hammers the drag down to full and it's still getting line peeled off.

Me and my friend run over and see his reel about to get bottomed out, "Boy this fish has got some shoulders on him" he says. He starts to feather the reel with his thumb and eventually stops the behemoth. At this point I could see the bare metal of his spool, the fish at this point assume is a monster black tip shark or sting ray gets a second wind and tears off for a second time.

The old man has to stop the fish at this point so he stops the spool with his thumb and snaps his 40 lb mono. I never though I would see anything like that in reel life let alone in Galveston.

The old man tells us he had about 380 yards of lncuding the bottom portion of line being 50lb braid.

>>849259
I run them weightless almost like a buzzbait.

>>849135
Yeah well in florida the tannic water you just have to deal with. There is only like 1 lake I know of around me thats crystal clear.

>>849232
Idk about that anon but I know one of the rivers I fish for smallmout is like that in the fall when the salmon come through. If the DEC catch you with anything that has more than one hook you get a fine. That's only in the fall for a few weeks though so it doesn't really affect me

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On a scale from 1-10 how cucked would you say I am?

>>849286
Memecast...

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>not fishing from your own island

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>>849286

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>>849299
>>849330
What's wrong with memecasters lmao? It holds an entire 150 yard spool of pp

>>849286

Kinda cucked considering you didn't buy the curado for cheaper online. Disregard the meme spouting retards.

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>>849330
What was the original reason for taking this photo?

>>849338
Wut lure is that?

>>849286
>spending over 350 for fish that can't peel drag
8/10 cuckold

>>849336
its the same price on tackle warehouse

>>849342
>smallmouth cant peel drag

kek, dont get the GOAT bass species confused with plebeian large mouth

>>849343

>TW likes to rip people off as much as big box stores

IM SHOCKED

Are chatterbaits the greatest lure ever invented?

>>849357
thats not what I ment. where are you seeing it cheaper?

>>849358
yes.

>>849360

Right this moment, I dont know. I got mine a couple months for 140$ shipped from a reputable ebay dealer. Sometimes Amazon has good prices too. If you aren't willing to put any time into shopping around then that's fine but TW is more of a "we have everything" store and not a "we have great prices" store.

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>>849334
>What's wrong with memecasters lmao?

>>849374

>there is nothing wrong with them, most fishermen are just too retarded and stubborn to use them properly

agreed.

>>849373
oh, well yea. obviously you could get one cheaper on eBay. that applies to every reel. I didnt feel like dealing with that since if something breaks I can return it.
>>849374
Ive had a low profile meme caster for a few years. only time I get a birds nest is if I retadedly snag my lure on something mid cast

>>849373
I went with Ebay for my Revo SX. It was $160 everywhere, but a seller had them for $115. It ended up being an online store and it was $160 on their website but $115 on Ebay.

I was trying to figure it out, my guess is it was either a couple overstock or they sell a few things for the low on Ebay to try and get their name out so people come back to their website instead of the major retailers.

>>849374
Still haven't had one that bad.

Speaking of meme casters I bought an Abu black promax 3 or something along those lines and I can't cast for shit. Heavier stuff is fine but weightless worms or 1/16tb oz weights in finess stuff is nearly impossible to get more than a couple feet if that. The brakes are all the way down and it still doesn't cast.

Feeling meme'd

>>849391
yea those reels dont cast light tackle. look at the packaging and read the rated lure weight

>>849391
>>849394
kek, I just checked and I didnt realize reels dont list that. only rods.

>>849391
That's why people don't use them for 1/16oz panfish lures. But once you get to 1/4oz, it will almost always cast better than the same weight spinning reel.

>>849358
I still haven't had any interest from bass in the chatterbait. I had a snek take a shot at it once. And I have actually been casting it quite a bit, especially once it gets dark. The water is still warm but that hasn't stopped the occaisional bass from hitting a Mepps.

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fishing a new lake tomorrow. From what I can see its rocky on the shore, hopefully rocky on the bottom. praying we get on the smallies

>>849254
I guess that kinda makes sense

>>849358
Yes

>>849339
I'm not positive since I bought it four years ago and haven't used it a lot, but I think it's a cotton cordell. Don't know the model or anything.

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just made this, does it look like itll work or no

>>849189
That's what I'm saying
It's hard to find something between 50 and 250

>>849503
+5 Fire Resistance.
+2 Ice Resistance
+4 Poison

Level 15 required.

>>849374
The average bass memecaster fisherman wouldn't know how to use a conventional like a penn senator or shimano tld. There's no brakes on them.

Why baitcasters?

What's the best soft plastic crawdads to get and in what color?

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Any anons into fly fishing? Never really see it discussed. I'll post what I get on weekends in these threads from now on seeing as how quickly fly fishing threads die.
Pic related, fish from sunday

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>>849528
Another from previous date

>>849528
>>849531
Nice!
I know Skid flies and a few others that bounce in.
I picked up a 4 or 5 wt early this summer but haven't played with it yet. Too much ocean stuff going on.

Maybe now that it's going to cool off a little I'll start trying it out.

>>849523

More power and capacity in a more compact and lightweight package are the only objective truths I can think of right now. I personally like the in hand feel and enjoy using mine. I also use light spinning tackle all the time, though.

>>849528
I fly fish some
I need to get a 6 weight

All this time I thought memecasters were spincasters, not baitcasters.
How are the best rods memes? Try dropshotting with a spinning reel or placing your topwaters/spinnerbaits exactly where you want them

>>849569

I like baitcasters too but most bass anglers pick up the medium-light spinning tackle specifically for drop shot rigs... As a matter of fact that's about all I use my spinning gear for, other than trout.

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>>849261
at some point you have to point the butt at them, to turn them. feathering them doesnt do shit but slow them down and remind them that theyre hooked. I learned years ago that turning them and getting them to change is what get it done.

>>849286
will you have fun? thats what counts. In the long run your money was spent wisely.

>>849503
change the split rings to stronger ones.

So I want to have siwash hook on my 5/8 oz kroc spoon. Both of the treble hook and the siwash hook that came with it rusted pretty badly and need to change.

The siwash that came with it seem to be very big for the spoon size. I looks like a 4/0 or 5/0. The treble was around size 3 or 4 so I think size 1/0 and 2/0 siwash would fit the spoon better. Also, fishes around california surf seems to have pretty small mouth too, so I feel like a smaller hook will help. The spoon length is 2'3/4".

>>849571
>>849569
Drop shots and memecasters go together like toothpaste and orange juice.

>>849527
Culprit Incredi-Slim in Bama Bug

>>849503
Yeah, it should work. You may need a colored bead on the ling above it or a bushy tail on the treble hook, but it will work.

>>849523
>>849555
Only good for sea fishing and massive catfish/stripers and places where there's a lot of room the fish can run. Kids and inexpereinced fishermen who think you need to crank in a fish under the pure power of the reel are ignorant. You pull on the pole to pull the fish in then as you lower the pole you reel in the line while keeping it tight, repeat. Winching in fish just asks for something broken and you being tired

>>849528
I'm this guy >>849118

I make my attempts at it but I've been having a frustrating year thus far with it. I can catch freshies ok on fly but the lagoon has been a sour mistress.

>>849630
I don't think he was talking about the big conventional casting reels. Low profile baitcasters don't even hold that much line.

>>849681
Oh well, they are pretty much useless in that case.

>>849708
Aside from casting better, sure.

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>it's another Pepsi doesn't go saltwater fishing episode

>>849728
i really want to get out in the salt this weekend, But dont want to have to deal with holiday traffic and a normally 45- hour 20 drive will probably be doubbled

Have any of you ever tried using glow in the dark paint on the end of your rods for night fishing? I was fishing for catfish with my friend two nights ago and the idea came to me. Am I on to something, or just on something?

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>40mph gust
>strong as fuck current in river
>catfishn alone
>catch biggest turtle I've ever seen
>snaps my measly 20lb line
>now it's personal
>cast in same spot next to fallen tree
>instant bite
>try to take a pic at least since I doubt I'm pulling it on land
>snaps line
>try again
>instant bite
>snaps line for 3rd time before I can take a pic
>really mad now
>bites for 4th time but doesn't get on hook
>bites again for 5th but doesn't get on hook
>now it's just toying with me biting the line

So this is what it's like having a epic battle. Anyone else have any stories?

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>>849795
Berkley already took that one step further.

>>849528
I used to a lot and went to youth Trout Unlimited camps in amazing places.. Then I just stopped. Just went to South Dakota and caught a few nice browns

>>849795
Its been done. But you could find a way to use like some sort of clear plastic that clips to the end of ANY rod, and has an LED in it. So you can pimp your rod.. (kinda like those kids bicycle spoke lights)

>>849807
>>849819
What about a bag of glow sticks? They're cheap and you could just tape one to the rod and toss it when you're done fishing.

>>849831
I guess. Good glowsticks are kinda heavy, and might dickup light action rods because their stiffness.

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>>849545
I don't live next to the coast unfortunately so I stick to my fresh water. Used to use lures, but started fly fishing with a 4-piece reddington starter (believe it's a 4-6 weight? Gonna look it up when I get home). Since then I haven't really looked back.

>>849561
Where abouts are you fishing?

>>849641
And I've never realized you could fly fish in Salt water. Sounds like it could be a bitch though considering diet of saltwater fish

>>849809
You should pick it back up. Nothing beats the feeling of hooking a nice trout on a fly.

Anyway, I'll just be that one fly anon who posts his catch for the weekend if I can manage to get one.
Here's another I caught in an alpine Lake (10000 ft elevation)

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just got back from the tackle shop

>Shimano Spinning Combo, IX4000 reel and a medium action two piece 6'6 rod
>$49.99 (Canadian)


Thoughts? Poor college student who needs a new rod

>>849831
>>849839
They make clip on glowstick holders for rods, fyi. There are LED versions too.

>>849869
Is it one of those plastic reels? I mean for $50 CAD, you won't get much but you can't go wrong with Shimano. Only problem is if it has the plastic bodied reel, those are flimsy and shit will wear out.

If you have a Bass Pro or Cabela's nearby, check out their store brand combos. That is often the best way to go on a budget.

>>849795
I've done it back in the day, but you would have to shine a light on it every minute or two if you want it to keep glowing. Just get the bells instead.

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>>849885

Seems to be graphite and metal, with a few plastic parts

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>>849407
Well.. Got on the water at noon. Fished half of the south shore by 2 and then made my way back along the north shore. 6 hours total and not even a single bite. I was the only one on the whole lake so it was relaxing as fuck. New rod and reel were awesome too.

>>849681
>>849708

Are you both retarded? Show me a spinning reel that hold 110 yards of 14 pound mono while fitting comfortably in the palm of your hand and weighing in at 6 ounces. If you can I guarantee it cost more than a similar baitcaster.

My reel says the line capacities are
8/240
10/200
12/160

for mono. What's the heaviest braid I can put on it without issue ?

>>849919
>If you can I guarantee it cost more than a similar baitcaster.

So? You have to pay for quality.

>>849927
if you look at the braid packaging it gives the mono diameter equivalent. off the top of my head I know 30# braid is the same as 8# mono.

>>849928

You're right, I didn't need to list that asterisk. You literally can't find a spinning reel that fits the criteria mentioned. Low profile baitcasters hold more line in a more compact package, that is a fact.

>>849930
>>849919
My reels fit on my rods, not in my hands. I hold the rod and reel handle when I'm fishing, not the reel itself. Going on about low profile doesn't mean Jack. Who cares about your micropenis memecaster? 110 yards of 14lbs line? Why are you even using a memecaster for something so paltry as that? See >>849708 and >>849681 for how stupid that is. Do you even know what a memecaster and spinning reel are properly used for, kid?

>>849927
12 pound mono is the heaviest you can put on there and it's equivalent in braid should be 50lb. However, braid casts a little less further because of the friction it creates so I would recommend 30lb braid if you want maximum cast distance and strength.

>>849934

>Do you even know what a memecaster and spinning reel are properly used for, kid?

Yes, that's why I actually use both instead of just making uneducated remarks that the reel type that I dont use is useless and shitpost all day. You couldn't refute my point so now you are just trying your hardest to belittle me, typical. Low profile baitcasters have their place in bass angling and do offer unique advantages, this is indisputable. Just because they aren't what you prefer does not make them useless.

>>849934
holy shit. you are literally mentally retarded. please dont talk about things in which you clearly dont know anything bout.

>>849847
North east Ohio
I've got a 4 weight for smaller fish and an 8 weight for pike, carp, steelhead; etc
But I don't have a 6 weight

>>849907
It looks straight. I mean it's a Shimano so it will work. I still say it might be worth checking out Bass Pro or Cabela's store brand stuff but I wouldn't hold it against you if you grabbed the Shimano.

>>849919
You're getting your pants in a bunch over nothing. Some of the saltwater spinning reels have really deep spools and can hold quite a bit. Memecasters are definitely more compact and lighter than most spinning reels that are made for 14lb-20lb mono, but line capacity isn't exactly a strength.

>>849929
I find that to be off a little bit. Quality mono is normally a little bit thinner, and in my experience 15lb braid is like 6lb mono, 20lb is like 8lb, 30-10, 40-12, etc.

>>849927
Don't go overkill with it. Just because you can run 150yds of 40lb braid doesn't mean you need to. 20lb is a nice weight on a medium spinning setup for bass and stuff. It will cast better than 10lb mono, you will have a little better capacity, and 20lb line should still be strong enough to bend the hooks on lures to rip them off of snags.

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>>849803
Use a steel leader.

>>849969
I will next time. Wasn't properly equipped to catch a 50lb+ snapping turtle. The plan was just to catch some channels.

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>>849803
>20 years ago

I was bass fishing with a large red-white spoon in a local farm pond. I caught 3 bass that were 1/2 an inch from being state records out of that pond.

Then....

I was bluegill fishing and had one on. Suddenly, the largest bass I've ever seen in my life swallows the bluegill, 3 times over. I couldn't hook it of course.

Later on, what I think was the same monster bass, took my red-white spoon. Not even a fight, just snapped my 20lbs line like it was nothing at all.

Every time I saw that thing the blood drained from my face because, judging from its size, it would have far exceeded state record. It was like a log with a mouth and fins.

Unfortunately, that pond is nothing but a muddy swamp area now because the owner let the bank erode and it emptied.

---

>30 years ago

In another farm pond, during low water and drought, I caught a couple of blue catfish almost as large as this one. I wrangled around in the mud with them for 30 mins each before letting them go. They were just too big to take home. They were above state record, but it was the 1980s and no one really knew much about that in my area then. The owner of the pond got angry that I let them go.

Not much other than those two events. A bass in a stream at a relatives took four of my lures off 30lbs test line.

>>849941
>>849943
Memecasters for freshwater are an absolute joke. There's literally no reason to own one. They are intended for saltwater fishing but were scaled down to make a buck off freshwater marks like you 2.

You can't dispute anything. You are little children on the big internet. Everyone here has more experience than you do. You should probably lurk more, kids.

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>>849978
>100 pound catfish
>from a farm pond

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>>849981

>>849984
I don't know about the weight, just the length and girth. The owner fed them dog food, fyi. Which is pretty neat to watch.

>>849986
I mean I cant say its impossible obviously but just think about how much food that fucking thing had to eat in that small of an area to get anything like that pic you posted.

>>849987
Oh you have no clue. That pond is smaller than my pond, but deeper. So it is about 30 feet round and 5 feet deep. The water was really low when I was there and you could see catfish backs all over the place swimming around. It looked like an over stuffed koi pond. Only it was ultra muddy. The ones I caught weren't even the largest in there.

The owner would pull down with his 3-wheeler and a 30lbs bag of dog food and feed them scoop fulls for about half an hour. They'd eat the entire bag.

The thing was his family never fished in it. They gaffed the catfish and ate them.

>>849988
yikes. cant imagine it was very good, but from the way you described I doubt they gave a fuck

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>Fishing the American River at a nice spot I've found
>Casting and retrieving a zoom tiny fluke on a 1/16 oz jighead, 4lb mono leader and 10lb braid mainline
>Using a 7ft 6" ultralight rod, at this spot I mostly get smallmouth bass under a pound.
>Reel reel twitch reel reel... Bite?
>Set the hook and feel resistance
>Here's where it gets interesting. My rod bends sown and I hear my drag buzz. I've had fish run before, but this run lasts AT LEAST 10 full seconds.
>The run stops, and after a few cranks of the reel, the fish goes on a smaller, secondary run that lasts a second or two.
>The fish stops pulling, and I settle into the pull-and-reel-slack routine
>Have to be careful not to overstress the line. Since it is a 4lb leader only 2ft long, attached to braid, I don't get the advantage of having the stretch factor of mono mainline.
>Several minutes later, the fish comes close enough to the surface for me to see it.

>>849981
I guess I will just throw mine in the trash then. I don't want to look like a spinning reel pleb tho. People will laugh.

>>849803
The few months back when I'm guessing I hooked a 10lb+ snek was still the craziest thing. 15lb braid, probably 30yds of it was gone within a few seconds after I set the hook. I was fighting with him for a couple minutes until he wrapped me up.

Dude who lived on that lake told me about a 47" snek he got there and it had to be something similar.

>>849991
Farming catfish that way is rather common around here. I was going to do it, but I don't like the idea of feeding them dog food. Because, I'll be eating them and that doesn't seem healthy to me. Of course now you can buy bulk fish food, but to me that's just as bad as the dog food. Maybe if I had a way to catch tons of local baitfish to cut up for them I'd do it.

There are lots of vids on youtube of people doing it.

>>849995
Catch some big carp, chop em up, feed cats

>>849992
And then?

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>>849996
No carp in this area. There's only sunfish, chubs, and shiners for baitfish. That's a good idea though.

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>>849992
>From the moment I hooked the fish, I had been thinking about what it could be.
>Striped bass, Salmon, and Largemouth bass all occur in this river.
>The fish comes into view and I thought at first it was a small salmon, as I couldn't think of what else it would be.
>People on the bridge above me are watching as I attempt to bring the fish to shore.
>The real challenge begins at this point, as the fish is frightened and goes on a mini run every time I get it near shore or the surface.
>The island I am standing on is made of old concrete pieces from a long gone bridge.
>One of the blocks, resting at an angle, has a v-shaped inlet of water in it.
>My only hope of getting the fish on land without breaking the line is to guide it into this inlet.
>After a few attempts I manage to, and I kneel down in the water to block the escape of the fish.
>As I pick it up I realize it's a Sacramento Pikeminnow.
>I've caught these before, but none even came close to a foot. This one is almost three pounds by my estimate.
Needless to say I'm super hyped I caught this fish, Here's a photo of it.

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>>850010

>>850010
>Sacramento Pikeminnow

Pretty neat.

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The reel came! I'm spooling it with braid now.

>>850013
If you cut the head off you could pass it off as a walleye

>>850016
What size? 2000? 2500? What size braid? How does it feel?

>>849962

trip back, was on my phone

wish there was either store here. cabela's is actually opening a store here in november i think, but i'm moving nearly two hours away from it. hopefully there's a dedicated tackle shop in the area instead of just fucking canadian tire. saw two dudes who couldn't find steel leaders at canadian tire, yet they have foot and a half long spoon shaped spoons and various autistic meme gag tackle

>>850016

>those colours

beautiful tbqh

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>>849608
shit youre right but i just bought a 100 pack of these... can i double them up or can you link stronger ones? i figured any i bought would be fine

>>850018
It's a 3000. I was also looking at the 2500, but decided to get this one. It's super heavy on the 5'6" light rod I used to spool it, but the real rod is coming tomorrow.

Feels very smooth and well built. It's weird that reversing the reel unscrews the handle, but it might be a saltwater thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. The sound the drag makes is orgasmic.

>>850037
Little bit of flux, quite a bit of heat, and a little bit of solder is how I'd try to attack that problem.

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>>850013

>>850017
And you can pass the head off as grass carp probably.

>>850018
>>850040
Oh and 15lb braid, although I might get a spool with 20lb later on.

hi. i recently got into freshwater fishing and started off with the ugly stik combo

where do i expand from here? new rod and reel? i have yet to get into lures. working with about $200 atm

i've been told to look into baitcasters but they seem complicated and im a bitch

>>850050
Why do you want a new rod if you only recently started fishing? An ugly stik combo should last years and catch you plenty of fish. Also baitcasters are _hard_ to use. I'd stick with spinning reels until you know why you want a memecaster and that the effort put into learning to use it is worth it.

>>850046
I'd go straight for #20

>>850056
Well I already bought and spooled the 15, but I will look into a second spool then, thanks. What's the advantage of 20lb over 15lb if I'm not aiming for anything over 10lb?

>>850050
Yeah stay away from the memecasters for now
Get a Shakespeare excursion and spool it up with #8 or #10 Berkley trilene if you really feel you need to upgrade something but get a few New lures, some sizes of jigheads, some ewg 2/0-3/0 and 5/0-6/0 worm hooks, and some 1/0 octopus hooks
Assorted soft plastics- curlytail grabs, senko worms, craws, some flukes- a few split tail, and paddle tail, some other soft plastic worms.

>>850045
Probably
We've figured out what a pikeminnow is
The bastard child or grass carp and walleye

>>850061
Oh 15 should be good then, but if you're running jigs or frogs bass like to wrap up in things, and that extra strength is noticeable
And if you're in the salt you never know if you'll be snagging a stingray and if you do you'll wish you had a little more umph

>>850074
Gotcha! I'll get some 20lb just in case. Although if I hit a stingray I'd rather the line break haha. No idea how I'd deal with that.

>>850077
It's not too hard, tie a rag or other cloth over the barb, flip it of it's back (if it's hooked on the mouth or underside) unhook it then as you release it take the cloth off
Or just cut the hook with some wirecutters

>>850069
With the feeding habits of a walleye and the food value of a grass carp as well.

>>850101
That proves it

>>850101
Grass carp is decent. It's almost completely herbivorous yet pretty strong. If it comes from a clear water it will be good eating.

>>850109
How do you catch grass carp?

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>>849999
NICE DIGITS

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>>850117
I've caught them on corn and worms, although they are not supposed to eat worms. I think they make pellets specifically designed for Grass Carp, but that may only be available in Europe, it seems like nobody really cares about catching them in the US.

>>850117
Corn and bow fishing
I've never heard of grass carp on fly but common carp will eat them- about 3 weeks ago I got a few good bites on size 12 pheasant tails from carp
One straightened my hook and destroyed my fly so I tied on a lighter till it (went from 2x to 4x), the other I was zoned out and missed

>>850152
>Till it
Tippit*

>>850067
Goddammit skid, do you even read the posts before you reply with the same shit? Anon already has an Ugly Stik, why the hell would he buy an Excursion? It's barely an upgrade. Not everybody is trying to set up 50 different $30 combos, they would rather have a couple nicer ones.

>>850050
Is it the GX2 rod? I would say upgrade the reel next if you want to. Maybe something like a Pflueger President ($60) unless you want to go more expensive. If you want to start with lures, get a couple Rapalas and Rooster Tails since they are easy to use and probably some soft plastics and the stuff to Texas rig them.

Don't think about a baitcaster yet. Get down on a nicer spinning setup and get comfortable with all the different lures first.

>>850178
Shakespeare excursion reels are near bomb proof, smooth, reliable, etc
Mine is easily 5 years old and I have not even considered an upgrade because I honestly don't feel like it would be hard to upgrade
If I do ever manage to break one of mine I'll go right into Wal-Mart and buy another with exactly 0 hesitation
Its a 10/10 reel
Its the reel you buy thinking "ill upgrade later" but it's so good you don't see a point in upgrAding

>>849847
>Sounds like it could be a bitch

I wish I could tell you otherwise but unfortunately my experience has been pretty rough so far. I should note, however, that where I fish isn't like open water fly fishing, it's much more inland so it feels like your at a lake or large river area but the water is brackish or full in salt depending on where you are.

It's a lot of imitating baitfish, I don't think I've used one dry fly while out there. I generally tie semi large flies, and it can be frustrating spending 10-20 minutes tying one at home just to lose it on a mangrove root.

It's still a lot of fun regardless. Get that good salt water smell going mixed with too much sun screen.

>>850109
Yeah, carp in general is actually pretty good, I was just memeing.

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Beautiful weather this morning in NE Arkansas. Caught about 6 this size , they're gonna fry up nice.

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>>850120
That sir, is one beautiful fish

>eating bass

people do this?

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>>850314
Those grass carp look goofy as fuck. Even more retarded than common carp. Used to only see common ones in IL and it is mostly grass carp here.

Such stupid fish. They will just be gluggng along near shore like 5ft away, then they will see you after you have already been standing there for 5min, they make a big splash and stir up all the mud as they dart off, and after all that they swim like 3ft away.

>>850322
Honestly. Just jig for some bluegill or crappie if you want a good meal.

>>850325
That's because they are really high. They have slower reaction time, but then realize, "hey everything is ok, man."

>>850326
absolutely this.
It really boggles my mind how people can enjoy bass especially when there are tastier and easier to catch fish usually in the same spots

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>went wade-fishing in a river yesterday with a mepp's 1/8oz little wolf spoon (pic).
>water visibility was about 1 foot max
>caught 2 small bass, lots of panfish, and a big shiner

Well, at least I got to stock my pond with a couple bass.

This lure has this "strike attractor" on the treble hook. I love how that pink tube looks going through the water and all the panfish strike that tube more than the entire lure itself. After an exhaustive search I found a supplier that has a roll of the same stuff. I just hope that it will fit over the larger eye of my treble hooks.

>>850335
They have those on the inlines too. Dressed ones have the little red feather and plain ones have the red plastic.

To me, those tubes remind me of coffee stirrers. If you could find red ones, get a box of those and cut them up.

>>850334
>>850326
As someone who has eaten 100s of panfish, I can say that bass are far easier to clean for the amount of meat you get. The problem with the panfish are the bones. They are so tiny and missing just one can ruin your entire day.

I prefer eating catfish. Stronger flavor, less work skinning them, very thick muscle mass, no scales getting everywhere, meat and bones are almost completely separate entities when filleting them.

I've not had much experience with saltwater fishes, but I really liked red tail snapper I had many years ago. It was certainly better than the landlocked stuff we get here (salmon, cod, haddock, pollock, tilapia, etc.)

>>850337
Yeah, straws were one idea. However, finding translucent ones in fluorescent pink or orange in the diameter range I needed proved difficult. Right now I'm waiting for a supplier to get back with me on an order overseas.

the main problem is that these treble hooks need a tube with an inside diameter of 4-5mm at smallest. Right now I'll be trying 6mm OD with 4mm ID. With some dish soap I think I can pinch them and get them to slide over. Otherwise, I'll have to use 2 meters of tubing for some smaller hooks for another line of lures.

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>>850339
>a bigger fish is easier to clean
wow who'd a thought?

I only eat walleye and perch, of which take seconds to fillet

>>850342
I have little experience with those since they don't live around here.

>>850342
I've been trying to catch a perch for years. They allegedly live in the river I fish but I've never pulled one

>>850339
Pan fish are easy to clean. Theres a youtube video of almost how exactly I skin them. I sometimes leave the skin on though, and scale them with a spoon.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6dPp6mWKhKc

I just use some cheapie 25 dollar shrade 7 1/2" fillet knife.

>>850353
He is cutting through bones though. In that fillet he makes, there's an entire row of small bones. That's like nightmare mode for bones.

People don't eat panfish bones?
Good source of nutrients you're missing out on.

>>850342
Perch might be the best freshwater fish.

>>850341
Only other things I can think kf would be plastic beads from a craft store or if you could somehow get down on the stripped part of wires. Even if you could find bright orange thick copper wire, just grab a couple yards and that would cover a lot of hooks.

>>850339
Yeah but if you can get palm sized bluegill you can make a meal from a couple. That's why I think those Mayans would be good.

>>850342
Smoked walleye is the GOAT

Also have some smoked northern that I'll be trying for the first time

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>>850353
>not removing the pinbones
>mfw

http://bigbluegill.com/profiles/blogs/easy-pinbone-removal-for-bluegill-fillets

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>>850356
Ummmm theres no bones there?? Not on bluegill.

>>850356
Those are the rib bones and they're very easy to either pull out with tweezers or cut out. Honestly the best way to cook these fish are scaled+head cut off anyways, you waste so much meat trying to fillet them that it's not even worth it. Taste better too.

>>850054
>>850067
>>850178
thanks for the responsesesses

i mentioned potentially getting a second rod and reel just to be able to quickly switch between two different rigs

also not entirely sure if the current rod is better for lures or finesse fishing

>>850361
Looks like literally all bones

>>850361
>>850362
Not rib bones.

They are called pin bones "false rib bones" and are located above the actual ribs. Bluegill and sunfish both have these. They suck.

http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-remove-pin-bones-from-fish-fillets-169839

I don't bother with full fillets on panfish because of these. With larger fish that have them it is easy to remove, but with bluegill and sunfish these are so small that it is extremely easy to miss and you end up with someone choking with it stuck in their throat. "Oh just eat bread with it!" tell that to the person eating bread with it who is now actually throwing up on your floor because they are choking so fucking hard.

>>850361
You can see them pointing at the camera, from the spine in that image.

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>>850361

>>850380
That's not a bad idea. What weight line are you running on that Ugly Stik combo? A lot of people like having a lighter setup as a second rod if your main one is a medium weight with ~10lb line and you do a lot of pond and lake fishing with bluegill, crappie, or whatever. You could get down on a ~1000 size reel and spool it with 4lb mono and cast <1/8oz lures easily.

Or get a second, nicer medium combo. I always liked having at least 3 setups for freshwater- a medium with 8lb line, a light with 4lb line, and a MH setup with 12lb or 14lb line for catfish, carp, or heavy bass tackle.

What rod exactly do you have? Is it the Ugly Stik GX2 or one of the cheaper ones? Either way, if you are fishing lures a bit it may be nice getting a rod with faster action. If you are really going to stick with this, drop ~$100 on a new medium spinning setup and keep the Shakespeare as a backup or second rod.

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>>850398
Finally something useful for the imgur.

I still reccommend for people just starting to use braid, if you were running 8lb mono, go with 15lb or 20lb braid on that same reel. A few reasons- good quality mono is often a bit thinner than what PowerPro claims so your 8lb Trilene XS is probably thinner than 30lb Power Pro. Also braid isn't as smooth ad mono so good 8lb mono will cast slightly further than 30lb braid. Also 30lb is likely overkill on that spinning combo made for 8lb mono. Going with 15lb braid will cast further than 8lb mono, the reel will hold more line, and the braid will still be twice as strong as the mono you were running.

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>>850400
>Finally something useful for the imgur.
I'm bored. I'll see if I can help. If you don't end up using them you won't break my heart.

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>>850400
Fly fishing knots.

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>>850400
Taking care of your gear.

>>850409
>>850410
Cool. I will add em eventually.

I really want to go fishing but it's already 7pm. Probably just gonna pass out soon and then attempt to wake up early tomorrow. I want to get back to the lake I was at last weekend and see if somehow I can land a peacock.

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>>850400
Basic equipment overview.

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>>850400
Newbie info.

>>850400
15lbs braid with 15lbs mono leader. You get the 15lbs + some stretch + lower line visibility on the lure end + higher visibility for you on your end.

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Bitch, please...

>>850419
This is why I will never go noodling

>>850418
Ehh, the visibility in that case is irrelevant. 15lb braid is pretty damn thin, and mono isn't as invisible as flouro. Using moss green braid like a normal human bean, the line isn't really any easier to see than mono (for you or the fish). If you really want to see the line, hi-vis yellow mono or braid will be really close, especially considering the same strength braid will be much thinner than mono.

So pretty much just a shock leader.

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>>850400
Ice fishing tips/info.

>>850396
it is the GX2. i have 6lb line on it currently

any specific recommendations for another spinning set up?

>>850428
The list of popular combos <$100 is on the Pastebin and Imgur. A Pfluger President combo is a solid choice for somebody wanting to upgrade a bit without getting too expensive. It is a really popular reel for a reason. Bass Pro and Cabela's will often have the $60 President on one of their $40 store brand rods for $80-$90. If you don't like those rods, just get the reel and find a rod in your price range that you like.

Any Abu Garcia or Shimano reel in your price range will be straight too. If you have a Dick's nearby, look on their website and see if they have the Shimano Sedona/Sellus combo in-store to check out. Abu Cardinal SX or STX combos aren't bad for $70-$90.

>>850388
I have literally never had a problem with removing the bones or choking on them

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>>850410
>knots

I've been using a Clinch knot for over 40 years now and haven't had trouble with them. I don't even use the "improved" Clinch knot. I also like being able to pull the coils back up the line to instantly undo the knot. I've never had them slip out before. That may be because I use more wraps?

Here's what mine looks like. When I pulled it hard enough to break, it broke the line about 2 inches up from the knot and the knot slipped only a tiny bit as evidenced by the remaining end of the line shortening. However, I suspect that amount of slippage is actually just the knot tightening up to its full strength, which is how the knot works. In fact, I have to use some force to push the knot around the snap it is tied to.

The line broke at 9lbs (6lbs test line,) on my scales.

>>850422
>>850419
>This is why I will never go noodling

That's from Thailand on the Mekong river.

>>850440
On panfish? How long have you been eating fish? I've had 1,000s of fish and have butchered many 100s myself. There's always a problem with bones. 99% of the time the problem is just finding one in your mouth, but that 1% of getting it stuck in your tongue or throat really fucking sucks. The smaller the fish the more it happens because people simply can't see the bones.

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>>850443
When I was using 8lb test I lost several hooks using the improved clinch. I started using the palomar and that problem stopped.

If it works for you I don't see any reason to change. But if you google fishing knots breaking strength you'll see the clinch is one of the weakest.

>>850400
>I still reccommend for people just starting to use braid

Nah they should start with mono so they can see how much better braid is down the road

>>850447
Yeah, I see that, "slips, will not stay tied" for most of these.

Image from:
http://m.leeroysramblings.com/strong_knots.htm

When I do mine, I loop the line through the eye and back up to itself with about 3-4 inches of line through the eye. I pinch the line at the eye so it makes the hook/swivel stay down out of the way better. I then take the end of the line and the line between two fingers with one hand. Midway down between the end of the line and the hook/swivel I roll the line between two fingers of my other hand. This twirls the hook/swivel a lot. I thread the line end through the loop just about the eye of the hook/swivel. As I pull the end of the line tight (with my teeth), I keep the new loop of line tight so nothing turns into a mess and I slip the wraps down to the eye of the hook/swivel and tighten things up nicely.

Thus, I never really know how many wraps there are. I just eyeball it. Too many wraps and it won't tighten up properly and make out of shape loops all over. Too few wraps and it will easily slip. Thus, I think everyone else happens to be using far too few wraps on their clinch knots.

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>>850457

>>850453
I always reccommend mono first too, I mean for those using braid for the first time instead of regular mono.

>>850444
You just don't know how to eat them.
>rub fish between your tongue and roof of your mouth to break it up
>feel bone
>spit it out

No problem.

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>>850469
Yeah, I always treated filleted fish like game taken with a shotgun. I go through the meat with my tongue before I start chewing hard or swallowing.

>>850469
>>850473
Wow what a great way to enjoy food...

>>850469
>>850473
>rub fish between your tongue and roof of your mouth to break it up
>feel bone
>spit it out
>miss one
>swallow
>choke

I'll stick to large catfish, thanks.

>>850473
He knows what's up

>>850476
>>850482
These guys could forget to breathe and die of asphyxiation

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>>850486
>>850473
>>850469
>willingly eating fish that still has bones in it

Sure thing, kid.

>>850495
>eat plum
>choke on seed

>eat boiled egg
>omg shell

>eat watermelon
>wow choking on seeds

Honestly you're just fucking retarded if you can't eat around 1 1/2 inch+ bones in meat.

>>850499
not that anon but cant fish bones stab your throat or your gums?

>>850501
Not if you aren't a mouth breather who just jams food into their maw and swallows without paying attention. Fish bones are huge compared to how sensetive your mouth is to feeling objects.

>>850495
>>850482
>>850476
Rofl at Amerifags who can't handle bones in fish. News flash: in better parts of the world people eat fish with bones in it without constantly bitching or downright refusing to eat it. But yeah, muh freedom I guess. Enjoy your cheeseburgers.

>>850503
I'm from america and am the one who is laughing at them for not eating fish with bones.

Tiny dicked eurofaggots always have such a superiority complex over the dumbest things regardless of the fact that they never stated where they were from.

>>850505
Nah bro I was going for maximum bait potential. I realize cool dudes live in the US, especially since I'm a guest here right now on a visa. Fish on!

>>850505
Ive got 3 freezer bags full of perch in my freezer right now and not a single one has a bone in it. how is it so hard to just know how to fillet a fish properly

>>850515
whoops ment >>850503

>>850515
it wastes a lot of meat on small fish, anything under 15 inches I just cut it's head off and cook it whole.

How is it so hard to just eat around the bones? and the original argument was me saying it's easy to either cut them out or remove them to which he replied it's impossible to see them.

>>850520
Its not much of a waste when I can catch a limit of 30 8-10" perch in 3 hours. 60 fillets in one day is enough for me for a month

>>850522
The point is respecting the fish and not leaving 30% of the meat to not be eaten.

and why waste meat when you could just...not. It's even easier to clean when you don't.

>>850530
Or just throw it somewhere for scavengers to pick apart? I live in an apartment with a back patio and i just throw all my food waste out back and by morning time the possums have cleaned everything up.

>>850533
>feeding a pest animal
>bringing more pest animals to a populated area
>being a piece of shit

Whole fish are objectively better in every single way except personal preference of eating fillets since you're too babby to pick out bones.

>>850501
Yes. It is extremely common.

https://www.google.com/#q=fish+bone+throat

>>850515
This.

It is easy. Just do it with larger fish so it is actually worth while.

>>850520
>>850530
We are talking about fillet. Not talking about other methods of eating fish. 1st worlds don't' bat an eye about wasting food, kid.

>>850536
You've never been outside much have you, kid? With or without food in the area, wild animals will scour every inch of ground every single night looking for food.

>>850541
>kid
>13 year old or irellevant 59 year old fatass detected

It's okay, mister. I understand that with your old age it's hard to perform simple tasks like tying your shoes and removing bones from fish.