Alright /out/, let's have a firestarting thread What do

Bic Lighters and a ferro rod.

And as fat as finding dry kindling when it is wet you could learn how to feather sticks. It is a really useful trick even when it isn't wet.

Ignition source? Lighter or storm matches most of the time. I have a Flint and steel but mostly for emergencies.

Tinder? Birch bark works great, old man's beard, pine cones/needles if dry enough. If I'm bringing my own dryer lint or cotton balls with some vegetable oil. If it's just a backyard fire I like those little paraffin and sawdust nuggets you get at the hardware store.

>>819056
Cheap matches are my primary way to start fires. It's just quick and convenient.

Storm matches in case the weather is incredibly shitty.

I also carry 2 cheap lighters as a backup because shit weights nothing.

Backup ferro ferod, too.

>>819056
> I recently went backpacking and couldn't get a fire started due to lack of dry kindling and wood
Is there a way around this?
I usually use a a single tablet of fuel for my Esbit stove as kindling if the weather is bad. Shit burns like crazy.

>>819056
Gasoline and thermite

To all "outdoorsman" who think this isnt /out/: You're the idiot.

>>819131
>not starting your fires with nuclear fusion and uranium
Pleb.

>>819136
B-but uranium is a FISSION reaction fuel. If you wanted to do fusion, you'd have to start with hydrogen -- and that's not packable innawoods.

>>819170
>you'd have to start with hydrogen -- and that's not packable innawoods
What about hydrogen-filled balloons? Weights nothing and can be attached to your pack easily.

It would look cool, too.

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I always carry my fire kit with me.

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>>819056
>how to reliably start a fire in the rain
Road flares, anon.
>Pic related

I've been out in some shitty weather (rain, snow, golf-ball-size slushyballs falling out of the sky) and even with wet wood that hardly qualifies as "tinder", a flare burns hot enough for long enough to dry it out and get things going.

In the winter I carry two with me and two on my sled; summer I carry one or two in my pack.

Cycle them out every few years - Date of manufacture is printed on the flare, I usually don't carry anything more than 2 years old.
Older stuff I throw in my truck and use those for demos, and I do enough of those every year to keep my supplies in check.

I also carry lighters and carbide rocks for the times I have decent tinder and dry wood.
But when there's a situation and I need fire, i'm not going to fuck around, there will be a fire.

Gasoline will also help get things going. On a snowmobile or motorcycle, there's plenty of that to get a fire going. Don't think I'd carry that specifically for firestarting if I were into nonmotorized recreation though.

>>819075
>Flint and steel
You mean a ferro rod or an actual steel striker and piece of flint?

>>819255

When traveling around the country in my car I'll keep a few cans of sterno. Its just goop filled with alcohol, so it can be smeared where ever for a quick fire starter or can be used to cook on directly.

>>819292
That stuff works well, but it's not as hot as a flare. Fun to play with too.
It'll also dry out real fast if it's not stored airtight. (like when the lid wiggles loose from rattling around in the truck for a year or so.)

>>819174
>hydrogen-filled balloons
Nope. You've seen how air-filled balloons go flat after a week, and helium balloons go flat after a couple days, right? Well, hydrogen escapes 3.16 times as fast as helium. Source: Graham's Law http://www.chemteam.info/GasLaw/WS1-Graham.html

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>>819056
Sparker in my keychain, made from dead lighter, wet light fuel sealed in bottom. Fuel is made of cotton, olive oil, and beeswax. Spark onto fuel, which burns hot enough and long enough to dry out tinder so it'll catch. Only difference from what I do when everything's dry is I use about twice as much tinder and kindling when things are wet, so I can get a better coal bed going early. The wet light fuel was commercially sourced (bought in a package deal with my pocket bellows [no shill]), but when I run out I'll /diy/ some more. Good stuff.

>>819056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHajpRrPIJo

>>819056
You picture looks like a pair of titties hanging low.

>>819056
I carry candles with me and use small pieces of them to start wet fuel.
Just place it on a log, put on the candle, then start to add kindling.
The flame will burn many minutes and reliably dry the wood above until it ignites.

Matches

I have a ferro on my sheathe, but I don't use it; I've done it enough so I can do it, but eh, no point unless that's all I've got

I just use wood shavings to start the fire

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>>819056

>>819401

Oh yeah, its not a replacement for a flare, but it can be used more times than a flare. Again, use when conditions apply.

And yes, it does dry out, the alcohol just evaporates away and leaves nothing. I'll usually bring one can per weekend camping trip and make sure I use most of it that evening both as a tool and as a toy.

>>819556
If you can't find kindling and tinder but you have doritos you're doing something wrong.

I can light fire with ferro rods, but I wouldn't say that it's my favorite way of starting fire tho.

Basically I brought several matchbooks with me (they're free, and I usually put them in a waterproof container), a zippo and a bic. Zippo's really useful when I'm trying to light during the storm

>>819056
I have an old vape that I don't use anymore that I keep for starting fires.

Pushing 30 watts through a bit of dry cotton is the easiest way I've ever started a fire

>>819075
Dryer lint is the shit

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9 volt battery + fine steel wool works as a firestarter

>>819056
I bring an arc lighter, Bic lighter, matches, and a spark shitter

>>819056
I generally carry steel wool and a battery, but i will also keep a ferro rod in hand.

>>819255
Where do you get flares, anon? And how much are they?

>>819056
>go to 4chan
>thumbnail of tits hanging on front page
>click it
>it's knuckles of someone welding

>>821638
kek

>>819523
I think this is a nice trick, friend

I usually bring a box of matches and a bic, and I'm pretty much good to go. If I'm going to be smoking my pipe I might bring my pipe lighter too, but that's more of a luxury than a practical item since the fuel in wick lighters will generally evaporate after several days. For tinder I just use feathersticks.

>>821640

i thought it was tits too.

>>819246
Why the twine?

>>819170
It's ok, fusion power is only ten years away :^)

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Canvas is thick enough that I don't have to worry too much about rain.
>implying you don't have at least 5 sources of fire and 3 sources of kindling on you at all times

>>819056
I thought that the thumbnail showed a naked women with giant tits welding something in an awkward crouching position.
Kind of disappointed 2bh

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In the altoids tin are 4 petrolium jelly soaked cotton balls. This is in my backpack at all times.

>cotton balls
>good lighter
>mini firesteel
>mini liquid fuel lighter

>>822239
paper matches are literally worst

>>819056
>What do you carry to start fires while /out/?
candles

>>819523
mein neger

some fags like to rant about "muh fatwood" but really candles are cheap and they store well and pretty handy when you make a fire or other purposes.

sure i would use fatwood if i find it to preserve my candles. or if i'm ran out of candles because it's a long term shit. but as a city boy i don't feel particularly inclined to hunt for it or pay for it.

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I used a hudsonbay tin inside a custom pouch that holds my fero rod. The lid of the tin has a 4x magnification so solar ignition. Inside I keep flent and steel, char cloth, horse hoof fungus, birch bark, sulfur matches, jute twine, mug wort, and a few small bits of fat wood.

If I'm in wet conditions I keep a few sticks of fat wood to help create a fire by scraping them with the spine of my knife and then igniting it with a fero rod. Then using the other pieces to extend the fire until I can get my bigger wood to catch. Then I remove the fat wood and reuse it.

I prefer using a bow drill but sometimes that method doesn't work (most the time everyone is inpatient and complains about the time it takes) so I keep my fire kit on me at all times to make things easier.

In my bags I go have the standard altoids tin that I can char materials with since I don't use the hudsonbay tin for that, and I do have a couple vasoline cotton balls as a lazy man's method. Also, you can bury material by your fire and char materials if you don't have a container.

>>819170
>>819174
hydrogen is hard to store but also hard to use in fusion.
thankfully there are better fuels some of which are liquids.

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>large char tin, hold all the stuff besides the small bottle and ekstra hank of jute
>smaller char tin with charcloth
>birchbark for days, as much as i can jam in there, not even half ammount pictured
>metal pencil sharpener
>flint and steel
>lighter
>Jute for days
>small bottle with alcohol impregnated sticks
i need to find more fatwood

>>819246
what plastic container is that?

>>821632
My local Bennie's carries them. Tractor supply/Canadian tire probably carry them too

>>823119
I think it was meant to carry cigarettes and a lighter. I picked it up at the 100 yen shop.

>>822176
It is for tinder.

>>823183
I have no idea what Bennie's is. And I don't think there's a Tractor Supply Co near me. Well, maybe a little ways away. I live in suburban Texas

>>823413
Amazon should have them

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>>821632
Hardware stores carry them. Auto parts stores carry them. Walmart carries them. They're not too hard to find.

And they're about $10 for a 3-pack for the 15-minute ones. 30-min ones are a little bigger, more expensive (about $5/ea), and harder to find.

15 minutes of fucking-hot flame, striker on the cap... easy to use and strike off while wearing gloves... for about $3? Worth it.

>>823420
Ducati?

>>819246
Everything brand new and shiny, not a scratch to be seen. Never leaves your basement but then again you said you take it with you so ....

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>>823422
Negative.

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>>819410
this

>>819056
I normally carry matches or a lighter because they're easy, but there is a magnesium fire starter in my pack and I can start a fire with a bow drill.

Ironically, I have used a bow drill to start several fires, yet have never actually used a magnesium fire starter to start one.

>>823439
I take care of my gear. Its not new, its clean.

I use a ferro rod, and have a medicine bottle full of dryer lint. I also have matches and a lighter in case I'm in a hurry.

For me, the best source of tinder and kindling when it is raining is pine trees. When you go to the underside of pine trees, there's always loads of dry and dead sticks, spanning a good range of sizes.

>>823688
.... sure

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I just use my dab torch.

>>824153
whats that?

>>824163
Ever try a thing called google?

>>823612
I don't know why I thought it was, especially considering that I know what you ride.

Do you have any street bikes?

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>>825299
check'd
"Street bikes" like ... intended to be used on the street, or "street bike" like it's legal to ride on the street?

>Old fuck didn't even look before he changed lanes
>This is why I have a camera on my helmet

Anyone else here do my old Cub Scout trick? Take a cardboard egg carton, stuff each pocket with dryer lint, then pour melted wax over it. Cut into pieces and ta da, waterproof and each cup burns for about 15min.

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>>825381
Intended to be used on the street. Maybe something with more than one cylinder. Curious about what else you might ride.

Fucking cagers REEEE

>>819131
>gasoline and thermite

Is the gas so you can drive to the hardware store to buy something that will actually ignite the thermite or just to douse yourself in to end the shame you've brought on yourself

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anyone actually use these?

why are those boobies on fire?

Once I started a fire with cheap cuban bar matches and a fake crocsandal.
Was an emergency, cause i was literally eaten by mosquitos

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>>819056
All I need, pic related

>>826622
Yeah I use these and i love to use them. Never understood the general dislike of magnesium lighters. Cheap, small, light weight, no need if tinder and never failed me.

This weekend i found some turpentine rich pine wood

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This and a Zippo. (Yeah, I know I should switch to a Bic)

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Light My Fire Swedish FireSteel 2.0

>>819174
If anything it would reduce the wight of your pack.