Homegrowmen (Farming and Gardening) Thread #58

>>784481
US Farm Income and Taxes,
http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-marketing-and-management/farm-income-taxes-14991.aspx

US Grants and Loans for Small Farms,
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?navid=GRANTS_LOANS
http://afsic.nal.usda.gov/farms-and-community/grants-and-loans-farmers
http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/funding.shtml

Managing Risks on Your Small Farm,
http://agr.wa.gov/Marketing/SmallFarm/managerisk.aspx

Chicken info and forum,
http://www.backyardchickens.com

Rabbit guide
http://www.agriculture.gov.tt/publications/manuals/rabbit-production-a-producer-s-manual.html

A public access seedbank for many types of rare or endangered plants; both edible and ornamental,
http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/index.htm

Organic and heirloom selections:
http://sustainableseedco.com/
http://www.seedsofchange.com/
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/

Potato, Sweet Potato, and Tubers seed bank (free, but requies filling out forms and waiting in line):
http://www.cipotato.org/

Awesome interactive plant/gardening maps for USA, Canada, France, UK, BC, (frost dates, temp zones, etc):
http://www.plantmaps.com/index.php

Sprout seeds and info:
sproutpeople.org

Insect Habitats for attracting polinating bees, predatory/parasitic wasps, hibernating ladybugs, butterflies, etc.
http://www.inspirationgreen.com/insect-habitats.html

Toad and Hedgehog Habitats,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JetkWtw7Jc [Embed]
http://familycrafts.about.com/od/frogcrafts/a/How_To_Make_A_Toad_Village.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/breathingplaces/hedgehog_home/
http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/leaflets/L5-Hedgehog-Homes.pdf

Chili Peppers
http://www.fatalii.net/

More on Aquaponics & Aquaculture,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=26xpMCXP9bw [Embed]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_WgfaJjvfxA [Embed]
http://www.appropedia.org/Aquaponics

Sourcing plants from the grocery,
http://www.diyncrafts.com/4732/repurpose/25-foods-can-re-grow-kitchen-scraps

It's raining, and my potato sprouts have become partially/totally submerged in water.

Will they be fine until it dries/drains naturally, or should I dig a hole for the water to drain into?

Please
>>784425

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you sure took your sweet time.

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Warm enough for my pineapple now

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>>784499

How long does it take to drain? You might want to help them out if it's more than a day or two.

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>>784505
probably Rhamnus.

>>784510
Don't know, just planted them yesterday.
I'll keep an eye on it and drain it if the water stands for more than a couple days, thanks.

>>784514
Are you fucking dumb?

>>784505
It's a type of hawthorn, look them up.

Posted at end of old thread:

As suggested I pulled off all the flower buds from my blueberry (planted last summer, trying to encourage vegetative/root growth) and I just went ahead and did the same with my apple (also planted last summer).

Was this a bad idea? I got confused reading about pruning apple trees and just went ahead and pulled all but about 5 flowers from the apple. If it was a good idea, should I pull the rest off now too or will that stress the tree? the flowers are blooming.

Also all along the trunk is little leaves and stubs of new branches, should I have clipped those off? Should I just leave it and wait til late winter to get snipping again?

>>784519
bark looks like Rhamnus.

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>>784485
>upload/link the clean original png

This is about as good as it gets. There's a ton of people who do these threads, tons of these clover pics, before those there were the ones of Spy in the straw hat as the OP images.

>>784521
Yeah that is fine.

>>784507
They do it for free.

>>784626
>>784644
Maybe they delete off-topic boring posts that people report for being an eyesore

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Is this bullshit?

>>784846
Fuck, forgot to rotate the image

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>>784846
I don't know, but it reminded me of a DIY rough pH test.

Basically: take some distilled water, boil red cabbage in it. Drain and keep the purple water. This is neutral pH. Add something acidic, it turns red. Add something alkaline, it turns bluish-green.

>>784859
Would it work for dirt?

>>784860
I'm not sure, I don't see why not. Probably you'd mix some dirt into a solution with distilled water. Worth a shot since it's so easy.

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It seems like it works

>>784871
Cool! Next do dish soap, and then lemon juice. For calibration, and science.

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>>784886
I want to, but the instructions say not to

I heard putting a fan on your seedlings helps harden them off. Does that mean I can skip the whole gradually-set-them-out-for-longer-periods thing, or not?

>>784886
You forgot 'for fun!'

I'm easily entertained.

>>784910
Talking out my ass here, but I would think not. Circulating air in the house doesn't bring with it changes in temperature or light levels or I don't know what else, particulate that's blown around. I'm a beginner, but I'd do both. I definitely saw improvements in seedlings from occasionally running a fan from across the room.

>>784928
Originally was running a fan over them to cut down on mold and to keep the grow lights from overheating, but I must say my plants are less leggy and quite a bit...I dunno, stockier? They look so much better then last year's batch, I'm going to incorporate a fan in every batch from now on.

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>>784961
Fans replicate wind which makes for heartier roots and stems.

Hardening off for sunlight is a whole other thing. I put some healthy 6 inch plants into too much sun and NOTHING will save them if it's too much of a change too fast.

Pic related: My second attempt after I killed perfectly good seedlings with 4 hours of intense sunlight.

>>784898
>>784886
Liquids probably offer too little resistance and it fries out.

>>783326
Are you me? Because my radishes did the same thing. I moved them to a place with a bit more sun and that might have helped a bit.

>>784977
This. I was hardening off some plants earlier this year that had been started inside, and forgot to take them back in one day, and that was it. Killed the shit out of them. I live at 5000ft altitude, so it is going to be far more pronounced here as the sunlight is more brilliant, but yeah, too much too soon can fuck some plants up.

I've found it doesn't matter much with some of the native cultivars though. I can sprout some of the native peppers here and I don't have to worry about hardening them off at all.

Anyone else get sick of seedlings being so needy and just throw some damn seeds on the ground and cover them with dirt and what happens, happens?

Kind of salty, yeah. Lost a tray of tomatoes, still had a couple packets from very good tomatoes from last year so I just sprinkled them on some small beds and applied water. If nothing comes up, I'll go to a greenhouse but damn those tomatoes were REALLY good last year and I want more.

>>785055
IMO, direct sown plants develop stronger root systems. I've had a few things that didn't want to germinate, so I started them inside to varying degrees of success, but if you can get away with put it in the ground, my opinion is that is best.

I am going to play around with pregerminating seeds and putting them in the ground right after they germinate next year. I did that on a small scale this year, and it worked with varying scales of success.

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>>785165

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>>785166

>>784508
I'm still waiting for any seed to sprout

I started getting some 25-30 dollar LED bulbs, my leaves directly exposed seem to get black on it, I thought the light was already pretty high, could it be something else?

>>785194
What type of plant?

>>785169
I grew that pineapple by cutting the top of a plant and rooting it

It's about 4 years old now, I'm in Canada so it's actually spent most of its life inside

>>785165
This general was fantastic until you showed up desu

Can I water my plants with diet coke?

It's 99% water.

>>785238
Keep artificial sweeteners out of the water table please

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>>785238
http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/garden-how-to/soil-fertilizers/using-soda-on-plants.htm

no.

Eggplant

>>785209
>>785248

>>785209
Oh, right and also the tomato is getting it, it's not like they're getting crispy or anything, more like just painted the leaves

>>785238
Can you? Yes
Will your plants survive? No

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Could anyone please identify this flowering bush.

Are there moisture-meter precise enough so I can totally depend one one to water my plants?

If it's not too expensive I'd like to automate the watering cause it seems like an easy project to get started.

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What is this thing?

>>785297
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelanchier

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>>785275
it's a cultivated Rhododendron ponticum.

>>785322
>cultivated Rhododendron ponticum
thank you very much

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>tfw get talked out of making a retaining wall because it's too expensive and "way too difficult" because I've never done it before
f-fine I didn't really want to anyhow probably would have looked dumb

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>>785446

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What is this?

>>785451

peppers, and water drop residue

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>>785451
Close up

>>785452
Thanks

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>>785448

>>784507
How do you grow these?

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>>785581
you put them in live sphagnum and basically do nothing other than water them with rainwater.

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>>785609
it's from my own page, newfag.

>>785614
Link to it? For some reason you make all your acclaimed own pics from there that you post here un-googlable

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>>785616
http://chloroplastida.tumblr.com/

you can find most of my pictures there.

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>>785617
Kthx
Have about 110 folders with pics of identified species on my PC, but still around 220 pics of unidentified ones, maybe I can clear up a few that way

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>>785621
just post the nice ones.

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better late than never :v

>>785621
I need to do this, but for the wild seedlings that sprout up in my gardens. That way I know instantly which are which of the wild stuff that I want to keep or tear out.

>>785630
What you got growing?

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>>785626
Way too many to choose from, but y'all can have a go at this, one of my older ones
>>785631
I mainly do that to document progress of stuff I'm growing, or to see how longer-lasting perennials (like trees) develop over time

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>>785640
10 years later, the shrub is still in the very same place, always dies back during winter but comes again for spring, so here a better pic I took recently while it was in full flower

>>785640
>>785649
Seriously goddamn cool. I started meticulously noting aspects of everything I grew when I started 2 summers ago but fell behind and forgot about it, sadly. Very impressive.

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Yet another update of figs growing in my area, followed up from >>779339
So today there was some sort of festival in my village, relevant part is that many courtyards opened their doors for the general public to visit
Now that I got an eye for it, was surprised to find out fig trees/shrubs are growing in most of them.
Took a pic of the largest one of them I came across and it was quite impressive, the stem being at least 20-30cm diameter, so it must've been sitting there for a couple decades already, therefore withstanding some insanely cold winters (like 1996/97 when it dropped to -18°C one night)
>tfw never knew about their hardiness
Always thought of it as some pot plant only, so only planted out tiny seedlings in my garden now earlier this spring

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>>785697
Also took an unripe fruit and checked on it, and against all expectations it's producing seeds

>>785700
...and now I couldn't resist and ate it too, tasted great despite not being fully ripe yet
Considering how many of those fruits are hanging even on tiny shrubs and they apparently seem to carry at least twice per season here (late June and October) - yep, definitely want them in my garden too

>>785635

Basil, thyme, dill, cilantro, 2 types of hot peppers, cubanelle peppers, zucchini, cucumbers, cherry tomatoes, green beans

Pretty solid. Put the fence up afterwards but stupid long necked deer will still find ways to reach over.

>>785740
You won't have space for the cucumbers

>>785753

Yeah they grow out pretty aggressively. I planted them near the edges of the box and plan to trim them towards the fence so they grow more vertically.

>>785770
>they grow more vertically.
You may need to guide them
They'll crowd out your other shit otherwise

>>785775

Worst part is the vines that strangle everything else. Just gotta be vigilant and guide them to the fence.

Upside is that they produce a lot of fruit and most animals dont seem to care for them.

>>785280
That's precise enough between the two electrodes... So if you got a wet soil between the two electrodes, but not around, or the contrary, you might get funny results. So it implies a homogeneous watering and a homogeneous soil, and probably to calibrate it to a given depth where you know you want x% of humidity.
All in all, you would have to calibrate it for each plant water needs, while assuming their needs in water are always constant.
I don't know if it would be worth it (compared to "stick my finger in the soil" and "check the leaves")

THOUGH, if you do it, I'm still interested to see it

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Just finished getting this thing filled up with soil, aged manure, and all of the branches and twigs from a 20+ foot tall tree. It's 13'8" x 4' x 29" I built it for my mother, because she is gimpy and can't mess with plants if they're at ground level. Her physical therapist told her that it would be good for her to get out and garden, and that pretty much left me as the only one able to wheelbarrow just under 5 yards of shit.

The soil is probably a tad hot right now, but stuff will still grow in it. Over the next few years, when that wood starts to break down, the soil is going to kick ass.

I think I'm going to go take a shower now.

>>785630
how many hours of bright sunlight does it get?

>>785881


Less than I want unfortunately. Had to move it out of the most optimal spot because of renovations. Feels pretty bad but I'll make the best of it

Is it easier/harder to grow mushrooms in a live tree than it is to grow them in a dead log?
Is it likely to pose a threat to the tree's health?

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Hello guys, can I ask your help?
I'm a newbie of gardening. I've transplanted this pittosporum some days ago. Leaves are getting yellow, even the new ones.
I do water them well enough and fertilized them. There are not bugs on leaves or on the roots.
Could this be any kind of deficiency? Maybe ph?

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Also, my Oleandrum leaves at the bottom are getting yellow too. Same situation.
Any tip?

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>>785640
I have a plant list for my fern-wall and front yard, haven't made one for my entire backyard yet.
>>785649
that's a peony.

I follow some page about peonys, it's pretty common to see plants that are 100-200+ years old.

I have one that was planted in 1945.

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>>785992
it's a pretty massive plant, it doesn't have a whole lot of flowers because I had to relocate it last year.

>>785232
I see

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Why put this grid and cardboard at the bottom of your raised bed?

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>>786010
drainage, I assume.

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>>785992
Filed.
Here's another oldie, no longer have those though

>>786010
Mole barrier. That is a wire mesh called "hardware cloth". It is zinc coated steel and will rust out in the ground in no time, though it will last much longer than chicken wire. Cardboard isn't needed but might be for weed suppression. Cardboard really prevents proper draining for a long time.

The biggest problem with mole barriers for raised beds is that the moles simply climb over the side if the sides are not sufficiently high. Thus becoming a waste of effort, time and money to install them for low raised beds.

>>785967
Well to grow mushrooms in a living tree, you need to drill holes and hammer in foreign objects and expect it to be healthy.

If it's a huge, well established tree you're not too fond of, go for it. I've heard people say those trees they grew shrooms from were fine, but I wonder how they do 5+ years down the road....

>>786010
That's for weeds and roots or pests. It has varying success at doing anything for any of the listed issues, but it's (hopefully) more effective than doing nothing.

I poured boiling water over the area, weeded, and placed pea-sized rocks and burlap under mine to keep the weeds out and keep drainage high.

>>786044
that's a Osteospermum.

it's one of those plants everyone recognizes but no one knows the name of.

>>785753
>>785770
>>785775
>>785785
H-19 Little Leaf (and maybe others) are great pickling cukes that don't spread very far.

>>785847
Congrats! Even though it looks like a big tub of baked beans. Adding woody materials like that can be tricky. You'll probably be ok because of the manure, but the wood will take N away from the soil as it decomposes, and then will eventually give it back (and a little more).

>>785967
Check out David Spahr on facebook. Send him a pm. He takes on most everyone. He says don't bother inoculating live trees. I've asked that same question.

>>786049
>>786078
>>786014
Okay thank you. I guess the pea-sized rocks method would be my best bet

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>>786080
Ah, makes sense, apparently they don't survive winter so they were probably grown as annual

Now this one showed up in the crops area and flowered at a strange time (October)
Should be Ipomoea purpurea from the looksbut not sure, definitely didn't plant those intentionally

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>>786115
they're bedding plants, so they're expected to die during the winter.

that's I. purpurea, but as with all bindweeds if you want to keep it around put it in a pot because they tend to be invasive.

>>786093
>Even though it looks like a big tub of baked beans.


Shitty light. I started at 10AM and ended at 9PM. But yeah, I added what was probably 2 yards of manure before it was mixed and compressed by the weight of the dirt.

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>>786121
Well it was last year and the whole area has been ploughed over since anyway, now potatoes sitting in there

Then there's this obvious sunflower genus or closely related, but which one? Looks neither like the regular H. annuus nor H. tuberosus

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>>786131
reminds me of a Rudbeckia, probably isn't though.

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My first batch of Thai hot peppers came in

I tried the biggest one and I regretted it immediately

It was more painful than expected and I was snotting and salivating and all red for a good 5 mins after chugging a glass of milk and then I accidentally touched my eye and put it out of commission for a few mins and then took a cold shower to flush my eye

I call it a success

>>785967
>>786078
You always grow fungi in a freshly cut down tree log. Don't put them into an unfelled tree and never put them into an old log. Living trees produce several antifungal chemicals that break down after the trees are cut down. Old logs often times have other competing fungi or microbes that hinder or contaminate your fungi. Old logs also lack the sugars and some nutrients the fungi need to get a good start.

When using substrates, methods are much different than log growing.

>>786208
fun fact, birds aren't affected by capsaicin

>>786242
This is true. In fact, your wild varities of peppers often depend on birds for spreading seeds. If you try to grow them, it is a good idea to lightly score the seeds prior to putting them into the ground to mimic what happens to them when a bird eats them.

http://shop.nativeseeds.org/collections/chiltepines-wild-chiles/products/dc080

>>786269
Also there's lots of types of berries that are poisonous to us, but birds can eat them with ease.

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I was cutting some storebought cilantro for rooting and i found this thing that isn't cilantro in the pot. Anyone know what it is? It doesn't smell like anything when I rub the leaves and smell my fingers. Did I buy a weed or free biodiversity?

>>786235
Is there a particular good place to get freshly-felled tree logs? I don't exactly live near a forest.

If you grow fungi out of a log, do you have to do anything to it, like water it? Or does the fungi get everything it needs from the log?

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>>785971
>>785972
Looks like it's just old leaves dying desu since no others are affected.

>>786139
Are there any cacti other than Opuntia native to yurop?

>went to the beach, collected a couple bags of smooth rocks.
Comfy af, not sure what I'll do with them. Put them around my 1-year old apple? Put the blue ones around the blueberries? Is there any advantages/disadvantages to this? I imagine keeping weeds away a bit. But maybe they'll sink into the dirt and poison my root system somehow, I don't know what I'm doing.

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>>786347
>Is there a particular good place to get freshly-felled tree logs? Call up local landscaping and tree cutting companies. Tell them what you want to do, give them your number to call you if needed. You'll need something to haul a log in of course. A good diameter is 6-12 inches thick and no more than 3-4 feet long.

>If you grow fungi out of a log, do you have to do anything to it, like water it?

Yes, there's a good bit of work in involved, if you want highest yeilds, but it can be easy enough. Some people use a shock tank to dunk the logs in water for 12-24 hours. Other people just use a garden sprinkler overnight on them. There's resting periods between flushes too. My shiitake logs are currently dormant for several weeks (reposted pic related). I'll shock them again later on to get more.

Google up several sources of info:

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+log+spawn+fungi

>>786379
Wash them very well in fresh water. Soak them for a long time in fresh water too. This is to remove any traces of salt left in them. Beyond that they shouldn't be a problem so long as you don't put so many around the tree that the roots have trouble getting oxygen and die. They may even add some nutrients to the soil over time. They will also help hold heat to make the temps a little more even when cold snaps hit, but the smaller the stone and fewer the stones the less this has effect.

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>>786369
portugal has a bunch of native cacti I think.

we only have succulents up in the north, most of which are sedums.

>>786409
Portugal has no native cacti, 0 species of true cacti. There is only 1 true cactus species in the old world,Rhipsalis baccifera, and its in Africa.

>>786369
Opuntia species are introduced in Europe, not native.

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>>786436
Opuntia is native to portugal for one.

if you count agaves we've got a bunch of those I guess.

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>>786443
that they're originally introduced doesn't mean they're not native.

>>786445

were they introduced by humans?

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>>786448
probably.

where I'm from new plants are put on the 'waiting list', it's a list made by the national dutch herbarium every 7 years, all plants new to the netherlands are put on it, if they naturalize within the next 7 years they have a chance of being put on the natives list.

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>>786121
On to more recent stuff.
What pine (if it even is one)?
Really no idea about them, pretty much arr Pinaceae (except cedars) rook arike to me

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>>786475
Close up
>>786445
>>786443
The German classification pretty much goes
>indigenous
Stuff that grew here before humans brought anything along, like common oak, beech, ivy etc
>archaeophyte
Stuff that got brought here before 1492, like wheat, centaurea, walnuts (latter one might even be indigenous though)...
>established neophyte
Stuff coming later and subsequently spreading, like Ailanthus, giant hogweed,
>unstable neophyte/synanthropic
Stuff that is only cultivated and needs special care/doesn't seed itself out, like palm trees, olives, figs etc

>>786445
yes, that is actually what that means.

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I saw a lot of interesting stuff from my hike today. Anyone care to identify this? I'm bretty sure it isn't Mullein and the Ponderosa pine cone is for reference.

>>786581
Looks like burdock.

>>786583
Cool, looks like I'm making to tea then.

Pruning roses for mums friend.

Is it okay to prune past this seasons growth? The thing hasn't been pruned for years and years. This year's growth is green and older growth is woody. Can I cut back to the woody or does it need some green to come back next season?

It's winter here btw.

>>786613
Pic? In most cases they will still bud out from the woody parts.

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>>786594
Make this, too.

>>786632
Already took some off and it's covered in a creeper too. Dunno how hard to cut it back.

>>786638
In you case then, don't cut it back too drastically; just wait till next year to do more. Just mainly focus on thinning out the number of branches and cutting them to the base of the stem they started. If you want, i'll make a shitty paint diagram.

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>>786638
Forgot lic

>>786645
Did you take that today?

>>786659
Yes

>>786663
Then it's too late for pruning m8.

>>786664
It's winter here? Why too late?

>>786674

It's fucking June and that bush has been green for at least a month. I'm very curious, what's your country?

>>786724
Yeah I'm in Australia not the northern hemisphere.

>>786735
So it's going to get a lot colder, winter just started.

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>>786736
Done?

>>786444
Except it isn't. Look it up, it is well documented that they were brought there from the Americas.

>>786445
If they exist on the landscape solely due to anthropocentric reasons, they are not native.

>>786587
False Solomons Seal I believe.

>>786735
>>786737
Alright then yes, that's perfect.

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>>786741
Looks correct. Thank you!

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>>786738
doesn't matter, if they've naturalized decades ago they're native.

you can find them in the south of portugal.

if a plant can't be considered native because it was moved by an animal or something amongst those likes almost no plants would be native to anywhere, you'd be left with spore plants and shit like dandelions that uses the wind.

it's stupid and not a single biologist takes it seriously.

>>786786
I don't think you understand the meaning of "native" vs introduced and therefore fail to understand the context of my original question. Thanks anyway though.

>>785992
fucking always love your posts, bitchin garden

>>784507
D. rotundifolia, I expect. That is adorable.

>>786795
No, most of the world doesn't except that. Most of the world believes if they can trace its origins in a region to a specific human action after the start of the modern era (post-1500) then it is naturalized rather than native.

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bought two big S. officinalis for 8 euros.

pretty nice.

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Sorry to acks in the garden thread but I suspect you guys know more about this than most people. I can try /an/ too but that board's slower'n horecunts and kinda suck †bh.

WHAT KIND OF BEE IS THIS?? I have thousands of them swarming around my yard. They're small (1-2cm, 1/2"ish). They're just buzzing aorund a couple inches above the ground and hardly landing at all. I took a hundred photos trying to get a good shot of one. They don't seem to be feeding, foraging, attacking, etc. There's a 2" or so hole in the ground that a few of them are going in and out of. Are these mining bees or are these honey bee workers, or what?

This is in New England btw. I think they stung kitty and I need to know if these are solitary bees enjoying the sunny part of the yard or if this is a fuckin' nest problem I need to exterminate with extreme prejudice. Thanks in advance /out/. Y'all are good cunts.

I have more photos and video but this shot should be good enough for someone who knows.

>>787090
I'm not a bug/insect guy but I feel like if they aren't pollinating your garden then they serve no purpose in your ecosystem, murder them all

>>787090
Ground bee

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>>787104
Yeah I'm gonna see what happens at dusk. If they all seem to congregate into that hole I'm gonna smoke bomb them. I've done it before with great success. Thing is usually I'm used to seeing small bees around the yard as solitary bees that make dirt hills (similar to little ant hills) and those aren't much of a problem, and with so many of them spread-out they're hard to kill.

BUT if the fuckers are all in one nest it's napalm time.

btw I don't even have a garden so they're literally just tiny rats with wings imo.

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>>787105
so do you think they're just going to make little mounts everywhere or live in one big nest? here's the hole btw, with one of the fuckers going in. there isn't a big concentration of bees taking notice of this hole so i'm not sure if a few are just exploring or if it's a fuckin' hive

>>787109
they don't have colonies, it's just females laying eggs.

>>787107

please leave them alone. they aren't hurting anything and their sting doesn't even hurt :(

>>787114
well when I mow the lawn and rumble over that hole it could be unpleasant. if I determine that to be a hive i'm sorry anon, but it's holocaust time :[

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>>787114
also according to /an/ they're sweat bees which according to my research have a sting that urks for three (3) days

Has anyone else here only had shit luck with the pre-planted store bought fruit and vegetable "starter" plants? They always seem to be stunted and so far the only thing that I bought that way are my Blue Hubbard squash.

>>787132
>only thing that I bought that way
Fug, I meant that isn't that way

>>787126
>>787124

It's your yard.

Sweat bee stings only bother little babies, and they're not prone to sting unless you squish them. They also do help with pollination and the ecosystem.

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>>787141
yeah i'm gonna have to think about this anon. thank you for the balanced perspective.

>>787132
The hardware store plants have done pretty well for me, biggest issue is lack of cultivar selection. Do yours look like shit in the store or just die after you plant them?

>>787090

Bees > Cats as far as being important for ecological roles, but it's your lawn and stings aren't nice
I won't judge you for killing them all in your lawn or whatever

>>787194
>cats have important ecological roles

>>787202
that's not what he said

>>787194
it's not so much about kitteh as my nephews and when i do yardwork i don't want to relish the sting of a thousand bees

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>>787169
They're all still alive, they (peppers, watermelon and tomatoes) just don't seem to be doing shit. I probably got them too late except the squash. Pic related is the squash and watermelon and I've culled one squash since the photo. Were do you live? Cultivar selection wasn't too bad here.

>>783879

What should I do about rat vermin eating my tomatoes?

>>787319

catch and eat them

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Lots of New growth on my sunburnt pepper

>>787319
Befriend crows with shelled unsalted peanuts. Then orchestrate a turf war between the rats and crows using food.

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>>787319
the only thing that works is a rodent proof screen I'm afraid.

>>787336
Retard advice

>>787319
Get fox or coyote urine and poor it near your crop
Yes you can buy this stuff

>>787336
Why are trees cut that way?

>>787345
So they'll look like Broccoli

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Is this just a weed? I grew tomatoes in this pot last year
Anybody but Bugguy reply because I have him filtered

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>>787345
tradition, they used to be weaved into fences for cattle.

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>>787353
living fences are better

>mfw I realize I didn't start a living fence ten years ago and now it would take too long to see it mature

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>>787354
they're usually atleast partially alive.

willows grow extremely fast, you'll have a decent living fence within 10 years and you can basically just trim a willow and bash the branches into the ground if it's wet enough.

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>>787357
or go all out and make yourself a hut.

>>787354
Use plum, poplar, or willow, they grow fast

>>787345
>>787353
https://midwestpermaculture.com/2012/11/coppicingpollarding/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coppicing

>>784481

>>787351
It is probably tomato seed

>>787367
Actually it's pollarding

>>787351
>>787379
that is definitely not a tomato. garlic mustard weed maybe? i'm not really sure.

>>787387
>garlic mustard weed
i see this all over my yard so you're probably right

test

>>787353
>>787367
>>787382
Thanks. I was wondering because like >>787347 , I'm not a huge fan of this and saw it on a previously magnificent tree.
What would be the pros to do this if there is no use of the cut wood afterwards? I read it can make trees last "indefinitely" - only IF they survive the cutting

>>787394
Pollarding doesn't have the same benefit as coppicing, it's just done to get a certain look

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>>787132
It varies. For example my cheap ass rosemary plants from hardware store (€3 each IIRC), probably grown in a very hot region like Italy and not a special hardy cultivar, have all done well so far and survived the winter unharmed (went down to -7°C), despite me buying and planting them out pretty late (September), they even grew a little in the middle of the winter and do more so now.
Same for the bay laurel (Laurus nobilis), not a single bit of frost damage and growing like crazy again
On the other hand, bought and planted a Lavandula stoechas at the beginning of May, and this one doesn't seem to be doing too well.
Also some variegated ivy I bought which I want to climb up a fence is bickering, the regular ivy cuttings I took from another part of the garden which I simply stuck into the ground at around the same time as I planted the store-bought ones (last October) are doing better already now, and they had more time to invest to grow roots!
Mid-tier are my 2 bought Trachycarpus, they're not dying but just growing veeeery slowly (only shooting one leaf per 1-2 months or so in the warm season)
>>787387
>>787388
If you mean Alliaria petiolata, it definitely doesn't look like that, unless there's strange-looking cultivars around

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Whats happening to my zucchinis and can I help them? I have a feeling it's just sunburn. It got really hot extremely fast this past week and now they're roasted. can I save them?

>>787452
it's sunburn

Can the pot they're in be moved?

>>787455
I guess that might be my only option. Should I start over or are they salvageable?

>>787467
definitely salvageable, it happened to my indoor pepper plant when I brought them outside too.

Cut all of the damaged leaves off. There are still many intact, non damaged leaves in your pic so leave those ofc and lop off all of the curled ones and ones with white on them.
You can cut off your male flowers, but keep the pollen from them too.
It should be fine, there's still enough green left

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If I jerk off onto my plants will that provide extra nutrients for the soil? I had testicular cancer when I was 24 and lost both testes so I'll just be shooting blanks, no risk of pregnancy.
>I will never be a father

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>>787483

>>787483
Not as much as the gift of your poop nutrients, which you constantly just waste.

>>787222
I'm in California 9B. For tomatoes and the popular stuff there are a decent number of options but if you want, say, onions that aren't seeds your options are "yellow," white," and "red." Seems to be a similar thing with fruit trees.

>>787420
If it's not garlic mustard then what is it smart guy?
Oh wait, no, that's exactly what it looks like.

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>>787394
> I read it can make trees last "indefinitely"
no, their average lifespan drops dramatically.

those willows usually don't live much longer than 35.

>>787351
Pick a leaf, rub it in your hands and tell us what it smells like. If it's garlic mustard, well it has a garlic smell. Pull that fucker out if it does, they're really invasive and should just come right out of the soil. You can actually eat the leaves.

>>787420
I'm really just talking about annual vegetables. Once the roots reach the outside of the biodegradable pots they're planted in, they seem to be much less successful than seed started ones that won't be disturbed.

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Hi guys, can anyone tell me please which kind of plants are these?

My peppers are starting to bud. I've got cayennes, poblanos, jalapenos, habaneros, red and orange bell, and the rare one that i grew from seed this year... the aji jobito! I had a cajun belle and a cowhorn from lowes that both died of leafspot.

>>785451
looks like some kind of cayenne or chile

>>786208
What are you going to do with the rest? Saute them in a hot sauce or dry them for crushed red pepper flakes?

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>>787591
Well compare it to the one I had growing.
When young, it has only round leaves...

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>>787787
...only getting more pointy leaves later, towards the top

>>787382
Actually pollarding was posted in the post you replied to.

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This is my garden - last year. I live in the northern US so things aren't quite in bloom yet and I haven't taken any pictures, but this year's setup is very similar to last year's.

Four 4x4ft. raided beds and potted herbs near my back door. All grown as 'organic' as possible.

>>787689
Thanks

>>787743
Could be tomato on the left

>>787830
Pretty sure it´s not

>>787716
Usually roots can penetrate the peat pots

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Is there something wrong with the stems on this blueberry plant, or is it normal?

>>787830
>>787852
It's def not.

>>787879
I have that on mine. The new growth can get it. Don't know if it's bad or not, but I've had my plants for 5 or so years, and the plants keep getting bigger.

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After successfully cloning rosemary last September by cuttings (took only 10 days for the first ones to root) that I just stuck into shot glasses with soil/sand mix, I'm now trying to clone some more with willow water (cut some new growth from nearby trees, defoliated the twigs, diced 'em up and boiled for about an hour in water)
Let's see if they'll root even faster this way. Also some other cuttings I had done before without any hormones (sage, lavender, privet), curious as to how things will compare

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Anybody remember my November watermelon and its turbulent story? Continued from (>>779878)
So a day ago, I finally decided to prune away ~90% of the vine, mostly leafless part, after the shoot tip started dying too.
But new foliage had shot near the base, and it appears to be growing again!

>>788221
pumpkin anon here

IT'S ALIVE!

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>>788221
I'm going to plant my pumpkin soon and I will fertilize the first female flower with my indoor pumpkin pollen

>>788199
Toi, toi, toi.

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>>783781
>>783782
Follow up: 6 days later and I can already see some roots reaching the edges of the bag!
Really considerably faster than regular cuttings, which would take anywhere from 2 to 6 weeks for the first roots to show up
Will let it in there though a week or two more because there's a lot of leafy growth and flowers on the top which I don't wanna have to remove when replanting

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What's wrong with my dog sapling friends?

>>789060
fig*

bugguy?

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>>789060
Mine had been doing the same from time to time too, and I came to the conclusion that it's overwatering (and subsequent root rot). Apparently they like it extremely dry
The ones I planted out and never watered except initially seem to be doing much better than the potted ones

Apparently you can grow potatoes in sawdust, how is that possible?

>>788339
GL
Planted pumpkin in my garden for the first time this season. Gonna have to trellis it vertically since the bed is only 4ftx4ft

>>789127
>Planted pumpkin in my garden for the first time this season. Gonna have to trellis it vertically since the bed is only 4ftx4ft
You probably planted it too soon if you want them for halloween. Also trellising it won't work well. Pumpkin vines get pretty fucking big.

>>789130
I don't care about the timing of the pumpkins. Got a seedling as a gift.

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>>789127
These were my pumpkins last august

>>789135
all the dead grass was other vine I had cut away because squirrels killed the pumpkins on it

>>788339
YOU
NEED
MORE
LIGHT

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>>789135
i remember you anon!

>>789135
Why put boards under the pumpkins?

>>789260
not him but keeps the punkins up off the ground so they don't get pests, wounds, or rot

>>788937
If it's summer and that thing is in full sun, you're going to want to wrap some foil around that too, otherwise that shit will literally steam inside that clear plastic.

>>789063
>>789064
Is he gone?

>>789266
This

>>789255
It's dead senpai

>>789313
Well those tomatoes are under a sort of roof with opaque-ish plastic wrap anyway (rain protection) so not much direct sun, plus it's rather cool ATM and in the forecasts (highs in the lower 20°C range), but might consider that if it gets hotter

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so long story short. my aloe vera got fucked up by a window. any chance itll live? what can i do?

>>789601
It'll be fine. It will seal up those cuts and probably send out some side shoots for new growth. Don't do anything other than water it when needed.

Any cutworm help?

I'm growing under black burlap. 2 inch diameter hole burned through the plastic, and transplants placed. Seems like I could make a ring out of something and put it around each plant, but I don't want to go into the soil because the plugs were just placed, and I'm afraid of making it harder for roots to go outward.

Any tips?

>>789256
I'm going to start my pumpkins at the end of June this year

>>787822
What's that tall plant on the far left?

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>>789679
That'd hilariously fail where I live,
some years ago my younger sister thought it was a good idea to put some seeds of a watermelon we just ate into a pot, in early July.
Sure they came up, but by around mid-September they looked like this (maybe 3' across?) and never made it much further, just rotted away eventually a few weeks or so after
Maybe pumpkins can grow a little more when temps get lower, but still

>>789635
What do you want?

1: Stub left over after a cutworm cuts your seedlings down.
2: Growing plants with only the barest of roots "trouble' from a ring around them.

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does anyone have any idea what variation of aristolochia this is?

I can't seem to find the actual name anywhere.

>>789734
I have some young watermelon plants growing outside right now. About 40 of them (lel, just threw an entire packet of seeds onto the ground, to my surprise they all came up) I always knew they took long but not how long. Also got like 10 pumpkins plants going strong and are getting pretty big, they will probably start vining pretty soon. Will take some pics later. (Also get some corn and beans going as well).

>>789601
Just leave it be. Water when needed, maybe add a touch of fertilizer to the soil, and don't plan on cutting from it for another year.

>>789712
Sunflower in progress.

I'm pretty happy because this year I have a volunteer sun flower growing in the righthand bed.

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I'm posting pic related to show the noobs what happens when you don't keep up with your weed control. I've just been too busy to keep up with it, and now that I have a chance, I'll be pulling weeds off and on this afternoon in 101f heat. Between day to day life, plus having to take care of my mother due to her having a major surgery, I've had to skimp a few things when it comes to gardening this year.

In those beds are NM chiles - yes, peppers - and they are a third or less the height they should be this time of year. Also, a few just aren't there anymore. This is because I got them into the ground late, the weeds had already started, and the weeds out competed them.

It's not a total loss, because they traditionally don't produce in July even if they are mature enough to do so, because once the daily high is regularly above 90f-95f, they move to more vegetative growth. I also plant extras that I thin, and this year, I can transplant instead of yanking.

I can theoretically get several hundred pounds of green chile out of that much space. This year, I'll be doing good to get 150lbs. Had I just let the weeds go all summer, I would probably get 20lbs.

Next year, I'm pre-germinating the seeds to get a jump on the weeds. Filling in your beds and having your plants established is a legit weed control method, and it is my preferred go-to with regular hand weeding early on. It just didn't work out this year.

So take note if you're new to gardening: Weed control is important.

(For those of you wondering about the beds being the opposite of raised, I live in a desert. I don't worry about drainage, I worry about water retention. Set your garden up for what makes sense in your area.)

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>>789806
There's a small spot (200 m^2) bordering our property that is practically ignored by its owners (they moved away to neighbouring villages almost 20 years ago), if we didn't mow/mulch over it about once per year it would've turned into a forest by now
Always lots of sunflowers growing there that seed themselves out (partially into our property where asparagus and potato plantations are up to the edge) and pop up again the following season, we usually let a few of them stand there just because

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>>789814
I pretty much ignore weed removal from November to March, but even during that time lots of shit grows here. The tomato spot is usually full of chickweed by that time (here a pic from late January, in the dead middle of winter at 50°N), I don't even mind those too much as they're very easy to pull, but fuck grasses and their nasty roots

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>>789827
Here a pic of my heavily grass- and dandelion-infested onion bed in February, only got my ass moving to cleaning it up in March

>>789827
>but fuck grasses and their nasty roots

Fortunately, the grasses in the pictured beds have relatively shallow roots. The grass in with my three sisters, however, is Bermuda. FUCK. THAT. SHIT. Thankfully, the corn is going to provide one of the few things that fucks Bermuda: Shade. I planted that shit close together. Once the corn is done, winter rye is going in just to fuck it over next year.

I swear, once that stuff gets established, you have to nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

And is what you call chickweed also called creeping spurge? If so, I have that shit like a motherfucker in with tomatoes, garlic, melons, watermelons, etc... It's like a carpet, but next time I water, I'll be in there with a rake, and that'll get rid of most of it.

>>789737

3. I put little drinking straw collars around them and put some sort of organic poison and diatemaceous earth around them.

A local produce farmer said they were losing a lot to mice/voles. Some plants were being taken, others were just snipped down.

I'll try this for now.

>>789850
>chickweed
To make it scientific and unambiguous: Stellaria media (google it and compare the pictures to what grows around you). It's even edible (never used it seriously myself that way though, only tried a bit here and there and it tastes somewhat like young maize, it was apparently more eaten in times of hardship)
Good thing about it is that it doesn't grow very high (so no competition from that to most crops), you could theoretically even use it strategically to choke out other weeds and as a groundcover to keep up soil moisture in dry periods

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>>789865
Another reason to let them stand here in winter is that they're one of the few things flowering at that time and so providing food to insects, here one drone fly (Eristalis tenax, I think?) feeding on it in early February

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>>789850
>>789865
I use chickweed as a living mulch for tall plants. It does well for noxious weed suppression and slug/snail entrapment. I also eat it when it is young and grow it inside in winter for fresh greens.

Here's my asparagus bed loaded with chickweed this spring. It is going to seed now and I'll be ripping it up and threshing the seed out to use over winter and next year. At the end of winter, this is the first thing to pop up so it is great for weed suppression early on.

>>789865
>Stellaria media
Definitely not creeping spurge then. Creeping spurge is toxic. We do get purslane here, which is not only edible, but is also kind of good. Both grow low to the ground.

But yeah, last year was a terrible weed year due to double the annual average rainfall, and this year sucks for weeds due to last year's weed seed crop. I should have planted nothing but Tepary beans and only watered them once a month and watched them choke everything out.

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They are many, I am but one.

But really it's starting off to be a bad year for aphids

>>789865
>>789879
>>789893

Holy shit. I fucking hate this weed, and now you're making me question everything I know and hate.

Very interesting.

>>789954
jesus christ dude

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>>789954
RIP anon

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>>789983
>: tumblr_nw9xguZlkm1qjcyqno1_500.gif

>>789983
>>789979
Yea I doubt the caterpillar can eat all of them.

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>>789986
it was just a google seach anon i didn't check to see where it was from m8

>>789971
Most of the weeds that pop up are edible to some extent. However, many are not as palatable as normal crops. A few exceptions are chickweed and lambs quarter (think spinach). Others like dandelion and plantain are widely eaten but not as choice eating to people who don't often eat wild greens.

>>789954
Use a garden hose and spray off the aphids with as stiff a spray of water as the leaves can handle without harming them. Do this once a day for about a week. For potted plants you can use a shower if you have a hose attachment.

>>789996
>>789954
Buy mantises and lady bugs.

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maybe someone with experience can help me

I have 4 strains of la cheese ready to go into flowering. and im just about done with me flowering tent. pic related is my set up. I am using a 1000watt hps bulb in a cooltube.

i just got that 720 cfm fan today. im still not getting temps below 80 degrees.
It actually seems to stay right on 80 even after like half an hour compared to 86-90 b4 with weaker fans.

this is my first time flowering and im building a tent from scratch so all the venting and exhausting etc.. is new to me.so i have 2 questions:

is 80 degrees too hot for flowering?
if so what am i doing wrong?

>>787788
>Not any of the previous anons, but...
This really really look like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliaria_petiolata

>>790168
Because in my pics it is one. For clarification:

- My pics (actual garlic mustard): >>787787 >>787788

- The one that I doubt: >>787351

Really doesn't look like the same plant desu

>>790132
Get the fuck out of here, pothead.

>>790018
>Most of the weeds that pop up are edible to some extent. However, many are not as palatable as normal crops. A few exceptions are chickweed and lambs quarter (think spinach). Others like dandelion and plantain are widely eaten but not as choice eating to people who don't often eat wild greens.

I know a fair amount about tasty weeds, but I never bother with trying to grow them. It was using that chickweed as a covercrop that fascinated me. I've used buckwheat before, but I have a fair amount of chickweed and hate it. TRYING to make it grow and smother the other weeds is what turns my stomach, yet excites me at the same time.

>>790132
Nope
Just be a bit patient

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Growing in scandinavia. Here is another one of my plots. Potatoes in the back. Left side is for greenbeans and peas. Middle is squash and lettuce and the right side is for sunflowers and kale.

>>790265
lol well as "weeds" go, chickweed is extremely easy to tear off. It tends to self-terminate too. It will get super lush then start to become stringy and thin as all the flower stalks lengthen a great bit.

One difference is that it does create a 2 inch deep layer of dense sod. Luckily, it is fairly easily dealt with.

Apparently you can grow potatoes in sawdust. How is that possible?

>>790132
YES TEMPS ABOVE 80 will negatively impact harvest

Buy an AC

>buy burpee gourd seeds
>most of them sprout
>buy ferry morse gourd seeds
>only 3 out of the entire packet sprout

i know burpee is like the walmart of seeds but they're popular for a reason

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>>790372

Our local hardware store keeps the seeds directly under a leaky roof. Almost all the seeds on the rack have packets that have been soaked in water. They've been doing it for years.

Also, painted succulents and fake flowers on the cacti make me sad.

>>790372
>ferry morse

Never heard of them.

The only seeds that have never sprouted for me have been those you get at dollar stores. They are extremely hit or miss. Everything else seems to have about 90%-100% germination rate.

>>790397
What the flying fuck? What country do you live in? Are you sure that isn't just for a floral shop thing? Like intended for decor for an event and not to be sold to gardeners?

Wet seeds on the self are reprehensible.

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>>790247

>Gardening and Farming
>Growing of cannabis is legal in several states
>Takes a fair amount of skill and diligence to grow said cannabis plants, especially indoor grows
>The plant materials have a variety of applications and uses, but he is probably going to smoke it
>Plus they're very pretty plants.

I don't see what is wrong with it. Growing pot is pretty fun and requires skill. Sure pot probably isn't good for you unless you use it for a real medical or therapeutic purpose, but whatever. I'd like to see some more indoor growing posts for any plant/veggy. The setups are actually pretty cool. More mycology/mushroom posts would be cool too.

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>>790421
>I'd like to see some more indoor growing posts for any plant/veggy.

>>790423

Are pumpkins really that hellish of an endeavor to grow? I've had luck with tomato, some herbs, and squash. Plus growing mushrooms indoors is easy peasy. Portabella, whites, and oyster mushrooms eat anything I give them. Any more mushbros here? Currently making spawn for some bellas. Going to be using horse manure for substrate, but one of my totes is going to be using coffee grounds.

>>790432

They're easy to grow... just a questionable endeavor to grow indoors for any great length of time.

Mostly due to the blood sacrifice requirements.

>>790432
That depends on where you are. I get squash bugs like a motherfucker. Any squash would be easy to grow, except for those fucking things. I HATE HATE HATE the stinky little motherfuckers.

Pro tip for squash bugs: Use a spray bottle with insecticidal soap or just get out there with a wet/dry dust buster and vacuum your squash. I've been known to drag the shop vac out to lay waste to the motherfuckers. Yes, I vacuum my squash.

>>790421
>Takes a fair amount of skill and diligence to grow said cannabis plants, especially indoor grows

it's a fucking weed, you throw it in the ground and water it, it will grow

>>790421
The state the servers for 4chan is located in does not allow weed in any manner at all. That is what dictates what is legal or not on 4chan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_California

Still illegal.

Also, this if fucking OUTDOORS not indoors you fucking ignorant pothead.

>1. You will not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to anything that violates local or United States law.
>discuss
>discuss
http://www.4chan.org/rules

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rate my friends

>>790421
It's best to simply ignore that "no fun allowed" troll, it's the same pest from a couple threads back as apparent by posting style ("blah blah muh federal law" - no one gives a fuck)

>>790447
if you want nigger tier weed

>>790447
>he doesn't take good care of plants he plans to use for human consumption or use

I bet your strawberries are small as fuck

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>>790515

Strawberry size doesn't matter.

Here's a babby watermelon that I'm growing from seeds I saved out of one I bought from a black guy selling them off the side of the road.

He grew a bunch of different kinds and I think this one was long, skinny and red fleshed and was about to explode because it was so ripe.

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>>790542
Fucking Windows phone ;_;

>>790538
>>790540

>>790546

Looks good. Been wanting to grow watermelons for a while.

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>>790546
oh looks like he's gonna grow up big and strong

>frost watch the other night
>90+ degrees today

I need to move.

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>>790550
It's my first time growing them. I just stuck them in the ground where I had some room.

So far I have 5 little watermelons, each on a different runner across 2 different plants, then trimmed the tip off past the melons per some mormon on youtube's recommendation.

Then there's that cantaloupe plant beside them.

>>790553
Sleep tight, meller.

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>>790408

USA. Neon painted succulents & fake flowers are definitely a garden department thing these days. I think they look like ass. Also selling flowers that are nearly finishing flowering, because they sell better with a bunch of flowers on them.

Yeah, I've politely mentioned the soaked seeds to management, but it's not a battle worth fighting beyond that. Dry seeds are available from other places that care.

>>790348

I'd like to know the best medium for these tower potato grows, if anyone has any experience doing it (where you keep piling stuff on the plants.) I see youtube videos of people doing it and then being sad that their tower of potatoes contains no potatoes. My tower would likely get hot as fuck because it's hot as fuck here.

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>>790575
Beautiful.

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Harvested half of my winter onions today (the red ones) and hung them up to dry the dirt, damn, didn't expect that amount of the 5 m^2 they were growing on

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>>790607
Also planted out the remainder of the forest strawberry (F. vesca) seedlings int the now empty spot
Had planted out a good amount of them already a month ago, and those that had been outplanted then have already grown pretty well, while the ones kept in those tiny planters up until today have been stunted, but they can finally start developing better now too
(To the very left you can see the onions that haven't been dug out yet, then right to tht the stilly tiny F. vsca planted out today, then F. x ananassa I bought in early April, and to the very right you can see part of the same F. vesca seedling batch as further left, but already planted out a month ago)
Also a couple Thymus vulgaris alongside the strawbs

>>790575
Appropriate for the end of a Homegrowmen thread. lol

>>790473
The janitor/mobs of /out/ is a full pothead too. There's been a few weed growing threads that dropped off the board naturally even after being reported. /diy/ doesn't put up with that shit though and they get removed ASAP.

>>790612
Put some escape bridges in your watering death traps so that beneficial animals/insects/arthropods can escape them easily.

>>790649
>There's been a few weed growing threads that dropped off the board naturally even after being reported
And the issue is...? If you personally don't like the 420 and are triggered that easily by it being mentioned, I suggest you simply don't visit such threads, or go to your M*rmon (or whatever straight-edge stone age cult you belong to) hugbox site and stay the fuck there, this is 4chan FFS.
I've smoked pot like 5 times in my life (a few times in 2004 then one last time in 2008) and decided that it just isn't a thing for me (made me feel very nauseous), but I don't mind it being mentioned here. Heck, I don't like capsaicin much and sometimes these threads are full of only discussions about chile peppers but I bear and grin with it, and so should you.
>>790651
Might be worth considering... but then again, if I only manage to kill one single motherfucking snail/slug with those, they have more than fulfilled their purpose (shits have been devouring all my strawberries lately, but I never manage to spot any of them, even during dusk or night)

>>790317
very pretty and compact, enviable garden dude

>>790658
He's just venting about how they're there even if it upsets them. No need to get angry at a person at the end of their rope, who can't change anything.

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