Fishing & Tackle Thread

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>>775236
You fish that from shore at all? That would scare the hell out of me.

I WANT TO FUCK A FISH

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>>775237

RULES:

-NO PICS OF FISH LAYING IN THE GRASS
-NO PICS OF FISH NEXT TO YOUR FUCKING SHOE
-NO SMALL FISH (<12", OR <6" PANFISH)
-NO PICS OF FISH HANGING FROM A LINE UNSUPPORTED
-USE A WET SURFACE AND A TAPE MEASURE FOR FISH PICS
-NO FAGGOTRY PICS OF YOUR UNUSED WALMART LURE COLLECTION

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>>775238

>backtail
>shallow
>panfish
>cringe...

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>>775243
Muh Rules!

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>>775244
Hey, it's more effort than I was willing to put into it.

Needs a popper tbqhwy

Haven't been Round, straightening my life out. Don't worry I'm not addicted to anything but ciggerettes and ripping lips.

Just read the OP. Who the fuck is poaching stripers?

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>>775248
>>774510

>>775247

Im not hating lol. The bucktail is just my special snowflake lure.

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>>775238
>You fish that from shore at all? That would scare the hell out of me.

I know a few shorelines that drop from 0 to 100+ a few feet from shore, guess any steep shoreline like that would work. I don't cast it in water under 25. I can troll it to 30+ with 8lb fluoro and 100+ yards of line out.

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Anyone need a reel?
Probably keeping the two conventional reels

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>>775254
I try and run some deeper diving cranks at these man made lakes, but they all have that ledge like 10' off the shore which is almost vertical and really rocky. If you even get near it with a crank, 75% chance the lure is gone.

I have never had a ton of luck with deep diving cranks anyway. I do much better with suspending Rapalas. Not sure why. I have also been a big fan of those Shad Raps with the goody curved lips lately.

welp, what an awful day of fishing, turns out this specific pier was full of coloured folk, and there were 0 fish.
we then drove around for several hours checking out multiple metroparks for any sort of fishing.

I still haven't found a place yet to fish and it's really killing me.

>>775250 wtf.

>>775255
What fly fishing reels are those? Looking to get into it. Also rod recommendations?

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>>775260
Little commercial parks and shit, bruh.
I can't stand fishing at crowded public lakes.

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>>775243
Am I doing it right?

>>775238
>>775247
minnow and vibrating aren't even real categories. Minnow is just the shape and can be crank/jerk or even spoon.

Vibrating is just one characteristic of crankbait, just as different lip shapes vs no lip. Opposite of vibrating is silence crank and there are lipless silence crank as well.

Jerkbait also can be floating, suspending, or even sinking.

Come on, with your vast collection of lures, you should not make such mistake.

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>>775269
I didn't make that first one, some anon did. I'm can't into computahs enough to do it. Plus I'm lazy.

I did have the copypasta for different types of cranks that goes with this pic

>>775265
They look more like mooching center pin
3/10 would not reccomend
Look at the Cabellas 3 forks combo
It goes on sale regularly and for under 70 bucks on sale it seems pretty solid from what I've done with mine.

>>775269
>>775270
Crankbaits

So pic related is pretty much 2 of each of the main types of cranks that you will see. Top left are regular diving cranks. I think those will normally run like 6'-10' deep depending on how fast you reel and line and all that shit and then they float to the top when you stop reeling. Top middle is squarebill cranks, they float when not moving but will normally dive 3'-5' when cranked. Top right are the lipless rattlers. They sink when not being reeled, so you keep em suspended by reeling them in and they normally wobble a bit too.

Bottom left is going to be a suspending jerkbait. They dive slightly when reeled, and they just suspend when you stop reeling them. Rapala Husky Jerks and X-Raps are a couple types of these lures.

Bottom middle are floating and shallow diving cranks. The top one is a Bass Pro brand I think and the bottom is an "Original" Rapala. They look real similar to the suspending jerkbaits, but most of the time you see that body shape, it will be floating and shallow diving unless the package specifically says "Suspending" or something similar. Those are a great lure. You crank it a few times, let it stop and suspend a could feet under water, twitch it a couple times, and the fish love to hit them on that pause or as soon as you start moving them after the pause.

And finally, bottom right are some real deep divers. They will normally float when not being reeled, but will shoot down to 8'+ as soon as you start cranking them in.

>>775266
I know but it's so hard to track down a fishable body of water

>>775268
have you fished any of the cleveland metroparks?
I was looking around the Chagrin River with little success

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Caught decent feesh today, found a hollow body popper, and saw skids twin. Was a decent day.

>>775243
Y u no post a different picture¿ since you catch all da feesh¿

>>775248
Hope everything's all good man.

>>775277
I meant to mention that red eye shad has been doin work lately. I like them more than rattle traps.

>>775265
i dont flyfish, one si a bronson royal 360 the other is unnamed

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>>775278
They are def better than Rat-L-Traps. I wish I could get them in a 1/4oz size for fucking around with Mayans and Sneks though.

Hey Pepsi, Miami anon here, I get out of work at 4:30 on Saturday if you still wanna go. I'd be right at dolphin.

>decide to go fishing
>line on spinning reel is like 10 years old and brittle
>put on some brand new 15lbs test line
>go fishing for panfish
>every cast the bait lands and lines springs off the spool like a party favor
>every time there's a bite
>dat feel when I forgot to practice cast the line memory out before fishing in the yard

On the upside, I caught enough sunfish to feed my cat, who always comes with me for the small ones.

>>775284
For sure. Maybe I will come down that way on Saturday then. Or that first Miramar lake and the one across the street from it.

I want you guys to come up here one day. Too bad weekday traffic is so shitty. I could still possibly get down south on certain weekdays too but I never know what time I'm going to get out of work until I see my route. And even then shit can always go wrong.

>tfw head gasket blows on the truck on I-95
Almost had to call for a tow and probably wouldn't have gotten out of work until like 7pm but I limped the thing back to the mechanics in a cloud of blue smoke.

>>775255
But in all reality I'm probably going to try o sell these reels at tag sale or at pawn shop
5-15$ asking price seems reasonable right?
Il probably pair some of the with rods and ask 20-25$

>>775274
Not really I just kinda buzz around portage county except for the steelhead run then I'm up by fairport harbor but I'll probably do some of the Rocky river now that I've got waders and schitt to target steelies on fly

>Buzz around; a disambiguation
My drivers licence is a class m1 meaning I ride a motorcycle everywhere
And if you've ever ridden a 650cc one banger you understand the word buzz

>>775288
> 15 lbs test line mono for panfish

That's way too heavy for panfish and heavy mono is a mess on spinning reel.

>>775293
+1

>>775288
Anything over 8lb mono becomes a pain on spinning reels IMO.

>>775293
This
15 pound is crazy strong
2-4 pound test is right for panfish
6 is starting to get a little heavy
8 is the maximum justifiable but is more like bass finesse schitt
10-15 is a good General bass, walleye, and small catfish line

>>775297
8 ls is manageable for me, i hae good 12 lb on one reel, and its manageable, i also have some good 20 lb on another reel, an its manageable, i have some shitty 15 lb stuff on one of my conventional reels and its a bitch, but its fine because i use it with heavy weight and not casting

>>775293
>>775297
>>775298
>>775300
You just have to cast it a dozen or so times to get the line memory out of it and it works fine then.

It is 15lbs because I normally catch channel catfish and smallmouth bass with it. I'm not about to swap out line for individual fish types. I even have 50lbs braided on another pole and sometimes use it for sunfish. I also have 1lbs test on an ultra light.

So, you can take your poles and pedantic banter and shove it up your asses.

>>775297
Depends on the reel
On anything smaller than a 3500 it's a pain but after you get to 4500-5000 I'm content with mono up to 30 pound test

Also I'm buying heavier braid for my meme caster
I lost a frog and a very nice bass today
I'm getting at least 40 pound power pro next time I'm out
I'll put this braid on a different reel

>>775302
>Only bringing one rod at a time
I ride a motorcycle to the lake and still manage 3 rods easy, same when I used to bicycle to the lake

>>775243
>USE A WET SURFACE AND A TAPE MEASURE FOR FISH PICS

Why?

Exactly how many of these pathetic tripfags are that Pepsi autist? Kevin VanDam for sure. How many others?

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>>775259

And that is the problem with bank fishing. Get a boat.

>>775310
can confirm that i am myself

>>775300
Yeah 12-15lb is ok on larger reels for catfish and stuff, but on medium weight spinning combod, I don't even like doing 10lb. 6lb-8lb is where it's at. Or braid.

>>775304
30 is still pretty damn strong. Just make sure you don't hate it after putting 40lb or 50lb on there.

Dick's just had 300yd Power Pro for $19.99. I wonder if it's still habbening.
I have so much #40 laying around too that I don't use, I would've gladly put SuperSlick #40 on that reel before I sent it.

>>775313
Pepsi pls

>>775311
Beautiful artwork. I do want to at least do a kayak one day. Mostly so I can reach the shores of lakes where trees hang over the edge and I can't get to that shoreline.

>>775315
my 12 is on a 3500 size reel, and my 20 is on an old garcia mitchell 410 ( though i dd have some issues with it being untamable when i first put it on also send me a spool of 40 lb shit, il replace the 20l on my mitchell 410

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>>775289
I don't work Friday. Can I come then? Pls say yes.

>>775241
Wrong thread

>>775320
Maybe one day...

>>775328
Come where? Up this way?

Fridays are hit or miss. Sometimes I can get off work by like 2pm, sometimes it is 4pm. But either way I'll bring stops back before I get stuck there too late.

I was thinking if you were to come up north a little on a weekday afternoon, you could beat traffic heading up here by like 3pm and then by the time you head back around 8pm or 9pm, it should be clear.

>>775308
A wet surface helps protect the slime coat. He wants a measurement Bc he's insecure/jealous he can't get out everyday.

>>775310
We went over this last thread. All of us are.

>>775333
Yea over at Pompano. That sounds good to me.

>>775339
Ok. Just hit me up Friday during the day and I'll let you know what the hell is going on with work. Fridays can be easy if I run on the west side of my route or shitty if they run me east. Hopefully I will be out west.

I'm just hoping my route will be cut tomorrow. I need an easy day and I have a couple stops on Wednesdays where I want to punch people in the face. It's only two stops the whole week where I have to deal with assholes and they are both Wednesday.

>>775333
fuk i really want to get braid for the 410 since il e using it in 80 plus foot of water and need something as thin as possible to cut the current

>>775277
Nice catch

New to fishing here and I want to get a rod/reel that can catch the heaviest of fish for when I go saltwater fishing. Any suggestions? I might get 2 so what's a poor mans choice and what's the top of the line choice?

>>775334

Yeah man I'm sure he's mad jealous of the babby bass posting tripfags.

>>775357
I'm glad someone else sees it.

>>775349
Thanks!

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>>775237
rainbow trout

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>>775365
stuffed with lemon and fir tips and cooked over the fire in foil.

shoulda been stuffed with morels and porcin tooi but i couldnt find the right elevation band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDHvXypyBG8

>>775345
Hey Pepsi, how do you tend to clean your fish? Are you a "gut it and throw it on the grill" kinda guy or a "fillet and pull out all the bones" kinda guy?

>>775375
"Catch and release" kinda guy

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>>775375
It depends on the species. I fillet then fry bluegill, but pike generally get gutted and grilled.

Here's a recipe I got on this board a long time ago.

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>>775291
Mail me one. Support your poor student fly fishers.

>>775400
>Tfw I love fly fishing for titty bream and shellcracker but I live nowhere near any steams and don't know shit about trout fishing anyway

>>775400
youre talking about the fly reels? the unmarked one is really fucking rouigh around the edges, and the royal 360 is missing something, the drag/cicker doesnt work or are you alking about a different spinning reel

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>>775412
Yeah, they have some character, plus they just have to hold line
>>775402
I'm spoiled I live in Montana 10 mins away from several blue ribbon trout bodies.

>>775418
maye il send you one i have no money for shitt ing right now pus if i can get $5 for them i will since i need cash

>>775418
I'm jelly as hell. Been considering just taking a bunch of speed and studying everything I can about trout fishing then just getting in the car and going to north carolina and winging it. Otherwise, Hell, one day I'll be laying in a hospital bed with a burning pain in my lungs from cancer or in my liver from the same and I'll know I'll never walk in the sun again, and I'll regret not doing exactly what I said. Shit man, I wanna catch a trout. Fish are so beautiful and majestic in their own way...

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>>775424
I know the poor feel man...
>>775427
You won't regret it. Watch "A River Runs Through It" The man who played Conrad in it was my debate coach and I fish the same Rivers as in the movie

>>775429
That's such a pretty creature. Just think, millions of years and untold death and suffering were required to make what is in your hand. If that doesn't trip you out, I'll kiss your ass.

>>775430
Ur high af, but I know what you mean

>>775429
idk maybe il send outa some earky xmas gifts ot some shit to some anons il consider it tonight

>>775432
I'll mail you back a dollar or 5 because I have leftover postage and enveloped from helping on a local campaign.

>>775431
You're close. I'm drunk but I'm a genius so it's the only way I can be not sad. That, or having a spanish mackeral on my line. Now that I think about it I did catch one tiny, and I mean finger size, trout years ago as a kid on a guided trip. I wish I had pictures of it so I would know exactly what kind. But for real bro, nature is incomprehensibly beautiful when you really think about it.

>>775434
Indubitably. I cherish the mountains I reside in. Seeing bedded down elk and blue birds on your way to fish a high mountain lake connects you to a higher state of living.

>>775433
if i do gidts i need tofind out a way to make sure eeveryone gets equal shit, i cant gove someone a shitty old fly reel and someone else a somewhat nice fly rod in need of repairs etc

>>775437
I see what you mean. Children get jealous at others parties.

>>775439
yeah, plus i just feel bad aot that shit, I probably wont end uo doing that shit but oh well

>>775436
I've read about collective subconscious and st00f, but I often wonder if it really is something rather permanently embedded in our genes to feel happy and at peace in nature, particularly the snowy woods. I mean, our ancestors, for hundreds of generations, were born and died in the snowy bosom of mother europe. Now it's being overrun by islamic savages but that's a topic for /pol/ to deal with. In any case, since we evolved in that environment, why would it NOT be part of our collective subconscious? I think there's something to it brother.
Never seen a shit skin marvel at nature, only seen them run from it or make it fight for money.

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>>775443
You my drunk friend, are on to something. Gospeed with your Trout Attainment.

>>775237
Can I plug my fishing channel here OP?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbv5j00ZGGepI3cG-nXYcFA

>>775463
Also me again, I fish at a canal in Des Allmendes Louisiana pretty often and the only thing that seems to be back there is gar and an occasional saccolait. Any advice on Gar fishing?

>>775463
I watched the first video. What kinda catfish were those?

>>775332
definitely the right one

>>775465
Steel leader

>>775367
Nice fish!

>>775255
where you located?

>>775483
thanks man

>>775255
yeah. where are you located. id totally be interested in some reelage.

>>775269
Anon that made that chart here.

No they make a specific line of lures that are strictly known for vibrating. They are not crank baits. They sink to the bottom and drag along the bottom. Hitting against the ground while reeling causes vibrations.

Your other arguments are just petty.

>>775354
I would look at some of those Penn combos

>>775535
This is why you should never try to help anybody ever

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In the grass by my shoe ... Sorry

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>>775577
Yee that's a fatty

>>775310
All of them.

Do you cucks actually keep bass? And eat them, I assume? Uncivilized pigs the lot of you

>>775609
Also a few of the anons

>>775643
I haven't kept a fish I caught in 15 years

>>775643
On occasion

>>775643
I normally release them. I'm assuming you're a vegan?

>>775643
I release the undersized ones. I love fish on my plate.

>>775437
Jesus Christ, turn on autocorrect.

>>775643
No

I catch and release

The only people I've seen keep bass are poor niggers

>>775643
Why do most fisherman release bass? Is it like a unwritten rule? Is it because if they're hungry catching brim, crappie, etc , are easier to catch and more common?

>>775689
Bass are bony and hard to clean unless they're massive (then the meat doesn't taste good). Only bass I eat are striped.

>>775689

>>775694
Adding on to this anon's post, rock bass are decent eating. However, any fish tastes good with enough tartar sauce. Asians where I live eat carp, a fish known for tasting bad. They must know something we ubermensch don't.

>>775532
Ct, Most of the reels are rough around the edges, etc, But tell me what you w ant/need
>>775675
i typed that on a half broken keyboard when half asleep and not looking at they keyboar, id say thats pretty dcecent
>>775689
while bass can be somewhat bony , ad hard to clean they also tend to taste like mud in warm areas,
They also help keeps ponds in ballence, they eat small baitfish and help keep overpopulation, its important to predictors in the water

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old lures not allowed in thread anymore?

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>>775785
I didn't see anything about them in salty anon's rules

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>>775787
That's cool because the white one still has real hair for the skirt. On the newer Mepps, the brown ones are the only ones that still use real hair I think and you can tell the difference in the action.

>>775334
>helps protext the slime coat

I don't take pictures of fish that I don't keep and eat. Rather pointless "rule" for people who aren't fags.

>>775689
A lot of people think bass tastes bad. Those people don't know how to cook.

>>775243
>>775308
>>775334
Dumb shit

If you really want to protect the fish, dont fucking touch it at all. Dont bring it on the boat. Dont lip it. Dont hold it.

In fact, dont even fucking bother fishing.

>>775836
I was about to say this

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>>775243

>>775846
Looks positively unhealthy

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>>775857
>unhealthy
I caught this guy twice in like a week. I was almost sad it wasn't live bait to drop him a slow shiner or two. He was probably sick tho.

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>>775857
>>775860
A week later

>>775836
But I don't want to protect the fish. I want to eat the fish.

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>>775785
My grandpa gave me his tackle box when I got into fishing. This is what I stuck away.

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>>775870

>>775864
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asae any of yo meps made in france? the two older ones i have ae

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>>775872
I wish this split shot container wasn't so faded.

>>775873
that first word was supposed to be pepsi, i really n eed to get a keyboard that isnt totally shit

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>>775874

BE A REAL SPORTSMAN
TODAY AND YOUR BOY
WILL THANK YOU TOMORROW

PUT OUT EVERY SPARK

>>775773
hatchy you got an email?
I would be seriously interested in buying a reel or two
I am just getting back into fishing

>>775882
[email protected], Most of the reels are small 500-1000 size, and all of them are pretty shit, to be fair, what are you looking for ?

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>>775873
A bunch of them have "Made In France" stamped on the blade, but when you go on the website, Mepps and Mr. Twister are out of WI or something so I have no idea.

I have a few Abu inlines as well, I think those are Swiss made.

>>775870
That's pretty cool. I ended up with my Dad's stuff years ago but lost or left behind all but 2 lures. I wish I took care of the rods and reels, there were a handful of Abu reels and St. Croix rods.

>>775870
Wanted to add it's amazing how those Jitterbugs, Heddon Torpedoes, and Mepps, Rooster Tails, and Panther Marlins haven't changed one bit in decades while all these other companies are trying to reinvent the wheel with some lures.

Original Rapalas have been pretty much the same too. Still balsa wood, but I do have an old Rapala or Two and the paint is a bit different.

>>775884
sent uou an email

>>775890
dont fix what aint broke

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>>775910
It seems like Mepps are falling out of favor with a lot of people these days and it amazes me. They have always been one of the most versatile lures for me, but seems like people these days would rather run $15 cranks or specialty soft plastics. I think the less people use them, the better fish hit them though.

Sad to see. I think they will always be around though. I know I will keep shilling for them.

>>775857
How so?

>Its a seabass tho

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>>775914
That was one of the last bass I caught in IL before I moved to Florida. Goddamn do I miss largemouth that look like that, especially with the markings below the eyes.

I get a few with the markings down the side, but most of them around here are just dark green, almost black, on top and fade right to silver and white on the bottom. Pic related is probably the best markings I get in FL.

>>775914
ive mostly stopped using spinners for bass just due to the fact the places i fish are weedy as fuck

>>775914

I think I'd rather not get a bite all day then pull in fingerling bass.

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>>775923
Traditional spinners run through weeds suprisingly well. Inlines not so much.

>>775925
You say that now but when you finally get to the lake, you will change your mind. I had a blast a couple weekends ago when the 12" largemouth were hitting those finesse worms every cast.

Anyway the bass in the post you quoted was probably 14" or 15", the one I posted after that was a little guy. Remember how close-up pictures like that work. The "MAYBE 2lb" bass ended up being almost 20". Larger than the one pic you always post and not even close to the shoe bass that I post sometimes.

>>775930
no like my favorate pond is weedd up all the way to the surface and all you can do is fish weedless plastics

KVD teach me the ways of THE Strike King™ Redeye Shad™

Never caught anything with it

I dont know how to use it.

>>775930
I was actually surprised how "weedless" mepps are

If they do get tangled, they untangle pretty easy by themselves. I've pressured my spot too much fishing mepps every day and now the spinner isnt working too good, those fish are too smart. gotta start jigging again

>>775836
There is literally nothing wrong with trying to keep the fish you c&r healthy.

But I also don't think it's that big of a deal if put it on the ground. I was just saying why he'd put those "rules" lol.

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>>775933
I think I'm gonna hit a lake sort of like that in a little bit. Big ass weed bed that goes like 20yds out, so best bet is weedless stuff, cast as far as possible, and try to hit a bass before getting into the weeds. Pic related is one from that weed bed a week or two ago.

>>775938
Who was it that posted they were catching a lot on it? I have a few of them but don't use them a ton. Just that chartruese one that the Mayans love to attack. I give it little twitches and it looks like a struggling baitfish.

>>775941
I'm not sure I agree. Inlines are basically rakes. I want to get some split rings and put some 2/0 worm hooks on cheap 1/4oz inlines so I can run weedless curly tail grubs, Gulp minnows, or finesse worms on them.

>>775938
Reel it in and twitch it. The only thing different from a crank really is they sink, so if you want to go a little slower on your retrieve I'd suggest holding the tip of your rod a little higher to keep it off the bottom if you think it'll snag.

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>>775938
I thank you for your purchase of the Strike King™ KVD™ Red Eye Shad™. I made this video just for you.

http://youtu.be/Vc2VSuZmXk4

>for real tho
I honestly bought like 4 of those Red Eye Shads™ after watching some video of KVD and him ranting about how he catches more big bass on those cranks over anything. They are nice lipless cranks. I will run them over Rat-L-Traps anyday. I just wish they made some smaller 1/4oz ones for the panfishin.

if im assembling an arsenal of lures for summer bass, and I want to have most conditions covered
what are my MUST HAVE lures?

im thinking
a buzzbait
a jig with soft baits
a mid depth crank bait and a popper
a surface frog
and a spinner or two

am I missing anything?

>>775311
>casting perpendicular to the bank when fishing structure

lol

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>>775972
I'm gonna post this one again. Pretty much covers anything I would use for bass on a given day.

I would say aside fron what you have, add a couple different cranks besides a mid-depth regular chubby guy. Maybe a rattling lipless one like the Red Eye Shad™ and some suspending stuff like Rapala X-Raps or Husky Jerks.

I also have way better luck with soft plastics just Texas rigged instead of on a jig. Not sure if anybody else has this experience. The Texas rigs rip through cover and rocks n shit better than jigs anyway, even if the jig has a heavy weed guard.

Make sure one of those spinners is an inline too. Mepps Agila #4 or #5.

>>775860
>>775864
It's not actually sick.

There are two reason why a largemouth looks like this. The first one is because spawn takes a lot out of a female bass and they lose a lot of weight due to not eating while on the nest. You catch a lot of skinny bass during post spawn for this reason. The second is a lack of proper forage for a larger bass. A largemouths eyes, skull and the rest of the skeleton will continually grow to a certain size, regardless of food. These bass more than likely only have small baitfish to feed on and lack a population of breeding bluegill or large shad to feed on in the summer months. This is due to poor habitat in improperly stocked ponds caused by lack of cover for baitfish and overpopulation of bass.

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>>775994
Could've been the spawning thing. It still fought a bit and hit pretty hard, so it wasn't like it was on its death bed.

There are always lots of smaller bluegill and cichlids nearby. But the spot where I caught this bass (twice) is also near where I get lots of snakeheads so not sure if that could have to do with it. But most bass I catch there look relatively healthy. That's the only one I have ever gotten where it was that bad. Pic related was at the same lake but right around the corner from that spot.

>>775999
Males will look healthy most of the time. It's just the females that get really skinny. She more than likely had a large clutch of eggs this year.

>>775429
That fish looks too young to fuck
>>775250
I'd fuck this one though

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>>776004
The snek? Really? Have fun.

>>776015

the orange dot is cute

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Miami anon has good taste in lures.

>>776019
We all have our fetishes

>>775282
>def better than Rat-L-Traps

Rat-L-Traps? What is this, 1993?

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>>775982

The principle- that boat fishing is vastly different and superior to bank fishing- still applies. In fact, it is even more relevant. You can fish all along the depth contour lines of any structure with a boat- sunken points/islands, mid lake humps, flats, etc. It's wholly different from bank fishing and everyone here needs to get a boat asap.

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>>775985
I've found that football jigs are better for rocks and stuff and flippin jigs are better for heavy cover

>>776029
My dad hopped on the craze back then lol

>>776029
They are still a huge seller at a lot of places. Every Walmart has a big selection of them. But I agree, there are better lipless rattlers on the market now for $2 more.

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>>776027
Th-thank youu

Backslashes my Penn mag 525
I snapped my 50 pound shock leader and this is The result.

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Yee I finally found the decent sized bass at this lake. The key is 1/2oz Texas rig on the memecaster way the fuck out as far as I can cast.

>>776091
I told everyone puffer fish is cutest fish

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>>776094
The 50 pound test snapped just behind the double uni

>>776019
That thing will bite your cock off

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Finally found the non-baby bass. Thank god for #30 braid with the weeds I gotta pull them through tho.

>>776098
so?

>>775938
>>775949
>>775957
>>775960
Omfg i got a bite on the STRIKE KING™ Red Eye Shad™

My line broke fuck

Clinch knot NOT EVEN ONCE

there goes 6$

The irony fuck. The god damn one time i get a hit, it's a monster and my knot was weak

FUCK

should i order a new one

>>776133
Palomar ftw. Did it break while you were fighting it or when it hit it?

>should i order a new one

>>776133
>>776134
Fucked that up

>should i order a new one
Duh

>>776134
I think it was when i was setting the hook. But it's like i set the hook, and then as soon at he starts swimming right my rod goes slack and the lure is gone.

Yeah i did a palomar knot for everything else today idk why i was lazy this time.

Ill probably order some lipless cranks, i gotta get some soft plastics anyway

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>>776133
Damn, that sucks

PALOMAR
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>>776137
Must've been a big fish. I was thinking if it broke during the fight your drag might be set too high.

>>776150
Yeah my drag was maxed out i just realized. Im only on 10 lb test too

>>776154
Yeah that probably didn't help lol. Hopefully you can get out there and catch him

>>775418
I live a three minute walk away from a gold medal trout stream... That's usually only reliably fishable between October and April because it's a tailwater upstream of a massive agricultural area and gets shredded by runoff every fucking year there isn't a drought on and this year in particular I'm not expecting good fishing until about the first week of November.

On the 16th the flow was 300CFS and the river was low, smooth and gin-clear with rising fish everywhere and on the 18th the flow was 1400CFS and the river was unfishable. Too deep to wade, too fast to drift, too strong to paddle and no powered watercraft allowed even if there weren't barely-submerged weirs everywhere and no place to put in. God damn it.

>>776032
>The principle- that boat fishing is vastly different and superior to bank fishing- still applies. In fact, it is even more relevant. You can fish all along the depth contour lines of any structure with a boat- sunken points/islands, mid lake humps, flats, etc. It's wholly different from bank fishing and everyone here needs to get a boat asap.


I know, I was joking poking fun at you mate.

>>776157
I think he'll die since he cant eat with that lipless crank in his mouth

Bad way to go

Heres a vid of the fight I had with a 6lb bass the other week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttaiZqjgYeY

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Goddamn is was satifying today actually getting a few bass over 2lbs, two of them had to be 3lb+. Had another 3lb'er on the line for a minute but shook the hook loose when he jumped out of the water.

My old nig buddy who is always there has been telling me about a lake maybe 15min or 20min away where him and his buddies have been catching lots of 5lb+ bass, nothing small over there and they get at least half a dozen big guys each. Water is supposed to be nice and murky and no sneks up that way. I have to check that out this weekend.

>>776178
That sucks

>>776190
I would love to get a kayak at least to launch in some of my little lakes. Especially since the water gets so warm here. I had to cast so far out today just to get any largemouth bigger than 12". I was almost down to the mono backing on my baitcaster with #30 PowerPro and the bigger bass were hitting it right on the edge of my casting range.

I would also like to be able to get on the water and cast towards some of the trees hanging over the water because sneks love to hang out there and get spooked when walking along the shore. I could hit lots of great spots on the canals too.

>>776242
They will shake em out most of the time. Get it snagged on some weeds or rocks and eventually pop it off.

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how in the name of god do you set this hook?

I was doing some late night fishing with my frog lure, and something dragged maybe 10ft of line very quickly, but when I went to set the hook I just ended up pulling it out of the fish's mouth.


the way the hooks wrap over, it just seems so clumsy and awkward for you to get the right angle to dig into the fish's mouth

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>>776276
They are tricky. With topwater stuff like that, you have to let the fish grab it and drag it underwater for a second or two before setting it. If you try and set it as soon as you see them jump for it, you will never get them.

Bass aren't too hard to hook, but I get gar taking shots at those topwater frogs and it is damn near impossible to hook them because of their mouths. Maybe you had something like that.

>>776276
It's hard
I maybe get a 20%-25% hookup rate on frogs
Then I only have about a 60% catch rate If I hook them

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>>776287
I do better on the Zoom Horny Toads rigged weedless with no weight. But you need to keep them moving to keep it above water.

Okay, so I hooked a nice 20" or so largemouth on a tiny little crankbait on a 30" rod with 2lb test today. Long story short, he tangled himself up in some weeds and snapped the line, but it was in a tiny little pond. What do you guys think the odds of me catching him and getting my lure back are?

>>776298
>tiny little pond
yes, unless someone else catches him first.
I lost a Spro swivel, tactical angler clip, and a chatruese eel in the Atlantic and I'm still trying to get that bi@tch.
Your odds are much better.

>>776291
Do your horny toads always flip upside down?
Mine always seem to

>>775255
How much do you want for the memecaster at the bottom?

>>776372
ambasadeur 521, not sure what its worth had some other anon offer me 30 or was it 35 shortly after i got it, and i told them i wanted to hang onto it for a little but and try it , then when i decided i wanted to get rid of it he didnt have ash, Will post more pics of my shit tomorrown i have it on a rod right now actually

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This fucker is so cute, I regret releasing him. Tomorrow I go back to where I caught him and I'm going to make him my pet.

Taking all suggestions on names.

>>776381
obligitory, Mr whiskers

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Took several nights to get a channel cat at my local preserve here in Chicago. Everyone I've talked to there has had a hard time catching anything lately. This one was 12" and roughly 3-4lbs. My confidence level has been restored and I will be returning there.

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>>776133
Try the Improved Clinch Knot.

It's great, I pulled a 1/4oz hair jig through a shit ton of heavy weeds today trying it out for the first time. Also casted with it really hard to see if the force would pull it loose. Nope

>>776411

This, I always use improved clinch unless I'm using braid then palomar is the way to go.

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Caught this bad boy with a beadhead pheasant tail. Don't fret he was out of the water for only a second

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>>776178
I'm the anon you replied too. What the fuck is a gold medal stream? also the brookie above is mine :^)

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It is time to head out!

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>>776411

I've been using the trilene knot for 20+ years, doesn't fail me. HAVE to wet it with fluorocarbon line though.

>>776444
I'll try this next if the improved clinch doesn't work out afterall.

I do all my fishing on <20lb monofilament

>>776441
that is a monster

FUCKIN KEK
https://youtu.be/LuhDiFfaXhM?t=245

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>>775354
Ugly Stik rods never break
Penns spinfisher reels is what i use for saltwater fishing. 30lb braid with 80lb leader and 8/0 circle hooks. Catches anything from small snappers up to thresher sharks. Caught this shitty shark on that setup.

>>776452
I have a 9' Ugly Stick with a Shakespeare sigma 060 on it

Where should I fish this and what lures?
I have no saltwater experience

I'm thinking I'll spool it with 20# mono

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>>776454
Depends what you want and where you live. I live in VIC along the great ocean road where we get a huge variety of stuff. Regular 50g+ shiny metal lures are great for kingfish and tuna, anything under that gets mackerel and salmon. Decent sized poppers and 100g+ lures while trolling or jigging can get tuna, pelagic sharks and kingfish. I use homemade shiny bits of rubber cut to look like baby squid. It fucking rocks.

Running sinker rigs while anchored with a berley pot gives you snapper and all manners of sharks.

25 meters (depending on where you are fishing) gives decent sized everything. 75 metres youre looking at big game. 175metres if you want swordfish and makos bigger than your boat.

No clue about fishing in the US but my understanding is that florida is the same as Australia. Troll or spin for small oily baitfish like mackerel and salmon, drive out deeper to the edge of a reef, anchor and either use live bait on a game rod or fillets on regular setups.

Shallows with pippies or squid will give whiting and flathead in my area.

>>776441
Damn, I love smallies

>>776321
Maybe like 10% of the time, but they normally flip the right way with a good rip.

>>776407
>12"
>4lb
Woah there Pepsi

>>776452
>30lb braid with 80lb leader

Why is your leader so much heavier?

>>776381
Wiggles
Or fluffy

>>776487
A lot of people do that for toothy fish or reef fishing where coral and sharp rocks can tear up the line.

>>776503
WIRE LEADER
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>>776487
Shock leader
Heaving a 3-10 ounce weight/bait would snap that #30 braid like nothing

>>776503
>>776510
That makes sense.

Is 30# a common thing for salt? I figured most people used higher test.

>>776381
Bubby
Noodle

>>776487
I used to do tournament casting and ultima sent me huge spools of 80lb leader that ive been using for years.

>>776503
Other than for surf fishing this is a good factor of it, not much gets through it but sharks with teeth, in which case i use 100lb or wire leader.

>>776506
Try catching Gummis and mulloway on that shit. They are too sensitive to take any bait on wire.

>>776381
Lamilton

>>776411
What's the difference between the improved clinch and the regular clinch?

>>776524
I get rays that are 5 foot from wing tip to wing tip on 17 and 20 pound test
30 is actually pretty heavy for a surf rig
>The heavier the line the shorter the cast
Get a 1/8 ounce jighead, cast it with 6 pound test then with 15 pound test, you'll know what I'm on about
The longer your cast the more it's magnified
Then for surf fishing it gives you extra line strength in the waves. You get to drag it up the beach with 50+ pound test instead of 20

>>776527
Spanish mackerel seem to be pretty leader shy too

>in woods river fishin.
>fish only bite live worms
> run out of worms

what do? There has to be something that works

>>776555
Huh neat. I don't know anything about surf fishing obviously lol.

>The longer your cast the more it's magnified
What do you mean by this?

>>776561
Dig up some worms

>>776565
say you normally cast 30 feet, with 6 lb test, when you go up to 15 lb test you might only cast 20 feet So for every 30 foot you cast you lose 10 ft by going up in line weight, With 5 ounces of weight and a 10 foot pole, you might normally be able to cast 90 feet , ( now this is assumung you are still using 6 and 15 lb test but the same theory applies to moving up in line weight ) But if youre going up in weight class, your distance will be cut down by 10 feet ( for every 30 feet you cast) So instead of throwing 90 feet, you would only be throwing 60


Now all the numbers, line weights and bullshit are made up But do you understand the concept?

>>776568
I wasn't sure if he meant the casting distance or the line test. I was confused by

>Then for surf fishing it gives you extra line strength in the waves. You get to drag it up the beach with 50+ pound test instead of 20

Like the waves help you bring the fish to shore so it's closer to 50 pound test?

>>776565
>>776568
Basically when going up in line weight you lose x Feet per Y feet you cast, So if you cast 3 times y you lose three times x ( in theory)
or it could be per every y feet cast you lose .25 of that by going up in line weight ( once again all percentages etc are bullishit but you get the idea )

>>776569
Not surewhat he meant by that either i know batting any fish with current is a bitch, Maybe he just meant that you dont have to worry about it breaking as much

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>>776568
>tfw my Silver Max with #30 seems to cast further than my Revo SX with #20.
I don't get it. Both on 6'6" rods with 1/2oz weights.

Even after playing with the brake and spool tension, the $60 reel seemed to launch them further than the $160 reel.

>>776576
I believe every rod has a magic lure/weight that just fucking works
With my memecaster 1/3 jig will usually outcast 1/2 oz bucktail by a solid bit
My ultralight casts like a motherfucker with 4 lb mono and 3/16th ounce little Cleo
It also pitches weightless soft plastics like a motherfucker

>>776145
#onlypalomar

I have a question when tying up a carolina rig do you need to have the monoline preset with the barrel swivel? has issues tying on with the barrel tied to the swivel before hand and adding the rig afterwards

>>776568
Technique is everything. One of my mates pioneered the flat arc high swing cast technique. He personally reached 930ft on 6lb line with an 80lb leader.

>>776585
likei said all numbers are bullshit

>>776577
+1

>>776585
God damn

>>776591
my ultralight with that 3/16th ounce, with just a flick of the wrist shit goes a mile

Can you catch species other than bass on a hollow body frog? Like is there any chance that a crappie/ bluegill could get hooked?

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not really, the frog is meant to be swallowed whole, and then you set the hook, you'd be very hard pressed to find a crappie or bluegill large enough to take in a frog lure, but hey, go for it

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My 90lb paddlefish.

>>776597
How about a pike or a pickerel? Would they hit a frog?

What if i put a weight on the frog? Would a carp/catfish hit it if they think it's a dying?

>>776571
Okay so picture breaking waves and 2-3 foot of water
The water rises 5 feet in a few seconds then drops 5 feet in a few seconds
When the wave comes in you can just ride it in on the wave
But then you have to hold it as the wave flows out till you can get another wave to ride
If you've got the striper of a lifetime would you rather hold him in that outflow on 20 or 80 pound test
Granted you have to run a long shock for that ( I run about 40 feet because high vis mainline)
>>776601
Pike and such will hit anything that looks like an easy meal
Don't get your hopes up on catfish and totally give up on carp with a frog

>Be me
>Need to kill time
>Open and relube penn mag 525
>Drop tiny screw
>Hour later still can't find it and it's not going magnetic

What do

>>776599
Oklahoma Sc/out?

What's it like fishing in a state that isn't the fishing species and opportunities utopia that is Minnesota?

>>776608
good job im patching my pond today so i can keep shiners for pickerel and bass, then maybe going out on a party boat this weekend

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>>776625
Im in new jersey.

We got mountains.

We got marshes.

We got brooks and creeks and streams and rivers and ponds and lakes.

We got a fuckin ocean m8.

>>776133
>line broke
>Clinch knot
Did the knot give or did the line break? There is a HUGE difference.

And if braid, yeah, another vote for palomar

>>776506
THIS for teethy bluefish

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>>776625
Cape Cod
over 300 ponds/lakes, another 100 right over the bridge to mainland.
560 miles of coastline. Most of this within 30 minutes of me.
Nah, doesn't suck much

>>776625
Pretty good, considering that I live in the land of 15,000 lakes, Wisconsin. How's it feel to constantly lose to us?

>>776635
I thought the knot gave but the end wasnt curly like when a knot usually gives for me so im not sure

I do think it was a bad knot though

>>776561

Learn how to catch fish without live bait you babby.

>>776661
One thing I do even on the palomar is tie a simple knot in the line beyond the knot, like on an arbor knot. I think it helps prevent slippage, or it just makes me feel good.

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Dick's has Siennas for $19.99. I think this sale might be all weekend.

>>776625
I can fish in a T-shirt all year long. I do miss remote Northern Wisconsin lakes though.

>>776625
Florida is over 18% water. Tons of lakes, rivers and the ocean. May not have mountain streams but the trade off is that we have estuaries.

I'm more that ok with this.

>>776631
Protip: if it doesn't have a treeline, it's not a mountain.

>>776670
And I still don't fishh saltwater...

>>776666
Checked

>>776669
Forgot the link. That Fenwick and Pflueger Nighthawk combo looks noice.
http://m.dickssportinggoods.com/category/index.jsp?categoryId=22231216&camp=Email:05252016MemorialDayLink:Body_ShopNow&mcid=301316750

>>776666
Ok based quads i will not be lazy from now on

>>776669
Does anyone have any experience with the Okuma Stratus V? I feel like the one start reviews complaining about backlashes are just poor technique.

want to go on a party boat this upcoming weeke,d and while id like to bring my own rod, and reel, i dotn want some fucker to tangle with me, then cut my line to untangle the shit,
if i had some cheap 20-30 lb mono, then maybe, but not my 50 lb braid because i dont have money to replace that shit

>>776676
I have the spinning reel and I don't have a single complaint, especially at that price.

And I agree, reading the reviews it does seem like a lot of the people complaining about backlashes don't know what their doing. Babby's first baitcaster for a lot of them.

>>776648
>how's it feel to constantly lose to us?
We don't cuck-count any pisshole a lake in MN, you guys do. If it's less than 10 acres it doesn't qualify. There are 2.6m acres of lakes here. WI has
>1m

You should have brought up Lake Michigan lake trout fishing if you wanted to meme.

>>776690
I might pick up one of those then. Might as well get a sienna too and put it on an old uglystik I have to keep in my car while I'm at it.

>>776690
pepsi pls send300 yard spool of 40 lb power pro

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MONSTER!!1

so much commotion landing it my phone got wet and erased !

>>776696
Nice. How long is it?

>>776698

Not sure 28"ish. Released her. Biggest fish I've ever caught.

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>>776695
Damn, you killin me. I already told Miami anon I'm gonna grab her a little tackle box.

>>776694
Not a bad idea. Can't go wrong at that price.

>>776719
>U
only reason i mentioned it is because you said you had some spare 40 lb shit, How big of a tacklebox is needed? i may have one that might work

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>>776723
I was just gonna grab a 3500 box or something so she can get a bag at some point and use that.

Better than pic related, the box thr reel came in.

>>776723
And the line I kinda want to hang onto if I get down on that Pemn saltwater rod. I was just telling Skid that I woulda gladly spooled the baitcaster he bought from me with #40 instead of #20 since he already wants to change it.

>>776731
well i guess im going to buy another spool of braid when i go to cabellas or dicks next,
i have a plaino flat box i used for the longest time, or i also have a typical tackle box i dont use anymore

Guys how is this combo for a learning fisherman
I'll just be reservoir fishing for now
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=24020986

>>776695
I'm so fucking pissed off at pp right now. Just spooled 50# 300yds.
Cast bird's nest, 4 times, OK maybe I slightly overfilled. Keep cutting it out to get spool right.
Cast $29 lure, fucking pp snaps, nowhere near my knots, probably 30-50 ft from the lure.

Going to check my eyelets to see if there is a burr or something rough but FML.....

oh, and landed another schoolie, nothing big but they've been taking 35-40"ers in that harbor last week.

>>776737
braid is shit if youre fishing near anything rough, or if your eyelets are fucked, That and its so expensive, i only have it on my ultralight and my boat rod

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also i got so much shuit i need to ger rid of , 3 fly rods 2 fly reels ( all old shit) 2 od spincasting rods, one old spinning reel, a shitty boat rod , 3 rods and reels, 6 loose reels, and maybe the rod on the right , i figure i can get $5-10 per reel, and 10-35 per rod /rod and reel at a pawn shop ior tagsale e

I have a question about reel choice.
I recently found my grandfather's 8' Ugly Stik and I need a reel to put on it, mainly for pier fishing on the East coast of Florida. I'm looking to catch bluefish, trout, Spanish mackerel, and maybe flounder. My budget is $100 USD, and I'd like to stay under that.

>>776747
penn fierce 5thousand

>>776747
used spinfisher (Penn)
I saw one for 50 at a pawn shop today
Paid 119 or 129 for my 6500 new

>>776760
how big? and how shitty was it?

>>776737
You gotta be careful with the braid on baitcasters because you can get it dug into the spool and it will do strange shit. Happened to me yesterday with #20. But it was right after I pulled a bass out of some real thick weeds so I shoulda tossed it lightly a couple times.

>>776734
It's straight, the 3600 boxes are like $5, and Dick's will have bags for 3500 and 3600 boxes on sale for <$20 so it isn't even worth paying shipping.

>>776735
Those are nice. Grab it.

>>776765
>baitcasters
spinning reel
fml

>>776761
>how big?
>how shitty?
It was a 4 or 5k series, can't remember. I might go get it tomorrow. Had a good feel. They had another for $29 that was utter shit, bail wouldn't even close.

>>776769
Just remember, you can always find parts online for those reels and if it just needs a little gear or washets, you may be able to fix it with $5 and 15min of your time.

I have an Abu Cardinal that needs a $3 part and I have wanted to fix it forever but don't care enough about a $30 reel.

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This guy was caught on an 18 Adams and released unharmed.

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>>776769
if its a 5k an in good shape i may offer to buy it off you if you dont want it

>>776726
It's actually just an old box that Amazon shipped a while ago. The box the reel came in was even tinier.

>>776834
I figured when I looked at that pic again, you wouldn't even be able to fit the Zoom bags in a reel box. I think my buddy from work walking around the lake with his Adidas shoe box was worse.

So you still down for tomorrow? I'll hit you up when I figure out what's going on with work. I was thinking about starting a little earlier to make sure I get off at a decent time but fuck that.

If it's anything like today, it will be a long day. But I already told my boss I can't stay out there all late since I got some shit to do. I'm thinking if you guys come up here, maybe plan to be in the area around 4pm or 5pm. They can fuck themselves if they want me there past 5pm.

>>776834
I wanted to get out to the lake again today even though I just got home from work a little while ago. I ended up staying til like 9pm last night though since that dude showed up. Didn't sleep for shit last night. Wanted to make sure I get some sleep tonight so I can make it through a Friday at work and still get some fishin' in.

Waking up at 4am blows.

>>776381
Holdor

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HOLY SHIT

Guys i saw the catfish with the red eye shad

The fucker still has it! He is fucking huge though what the fuck do i do??

It's square in the corner of his lip. That's crazy, i cant believe he hit it,l

>>776848
They will hit lures from time to time, I've had it happen. Reel the fucker in already.

>>776838
Yea I'm definitely down for tomorrow. I can be up there at that time no problem.
>>776843
> waking up at 4 am blows
I feel you

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>>776850
Cool. I will hit you up while I'm at work and let you know what's up.

Remember what I said, if you don't catch anything at these lakes, we can never go fishing together again.

You should have some luck though. We will go to this one spot where it is really rocky and I always just run Mepps or those Blue Fox spinner you got almost parallel to the shore and I get Mayans, snakeheads, and bass all the time. Some bluegill in there too.

And around the bend from those rocks is where some bigger bass start to hit as the sun goes down. Plus the lake I was at last night with that great weed patch is right across the street.

should i go out tonight for eels and catfish? id be spooked fishing alone but still wanna getout

>>776850
>>776843
Waking up at 4 am isn't that bad

>>776866
Man up and go
If you're scared bring a big knife
If you're /out/ enough no one will question it

>>776866
Do it pussy. Why wouldn't you?

How big are those eels normally? What kind of bait and rig? Good fighters?
>>776877
>tfw all these dubs
It's not that bad to do once in awhile for something exciting, but wears you the fuck out everyday.

>>776866
why are you spooked fishing alone?

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>>776878
>/out/ enough
So dressed in milsurp with face paint and a dozen Moras?

>>776882
milsurps more /k/ than /out/

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Damn, this pic is awesome. Cormorant takin down a Bullseye snek. That pic has to be taken somewhere nearby.

>>776899
Has to be taken nearby if it was taken in the states at least. Could be in Asia.

>>776849
>>776848
How to into catching big guy uuuu

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>>776904
Wut?

I'm the wrong guy to ask.

>>776906
The catfish is in the spillway. It's a really small spot. Like 7-11 size.

How do i into catching big cats?

I cant throw another Strike King™ Red Eye Shad™ until my tackleware house order gets here and it just shipped.

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>>776912
I'm a big fan of dip bait for channel cats.

If you big cats, cut a bluegill in half and toss that on a hook.

>>776879
Not when you sleep at the right times
I'm up before the sun every day

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>>776923
It's impossible to fall asleep early enough to get 8hrs of sleep and get up at 4am.

Although I'm close tonight since I got no sleep last night. I'll post #47 and pass the fuck out.

Is there a reason my spinnerbaits arent working? Could the lake be too pressured by me using them too often or what?

Or is it like im using them at the wrong time? is it better to throw them in the morning or what? I've been fishing like 5-7 pm.

Fickle fish

>>776882
/Out/ far enough*
After you come from a mile of woods cops don't care about big knives Any more (if there are laws about them)

>>776927
Not for me
>Close blinds
>Ac on
>Under covers
>out by 9:30

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>>776928
How clear is the water? Is it sunny out?

I have much better luck with inline spinners compared to regular ones. The other night I had a regular spinner out just after it got dark and I did get a bunch of good bites before I had to leave. Sometimes they work well and sometimes they don't work for shit. No idea what it is.

>>776932
I pass out around that time a lot too, but with no naps during the day and physical labor all day, that isn't quite enough all the time.

>>776934
It's pretty sunny out and the water is cloudy i guess, but not muddy

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>>776937
Hmm, murky water is normally decent for them. What colors are you using? I have a Booyah one with a chartruese and black skirt and chartruese blades and that has been my best spinner most days. But another anon has great luck with silver and blue. Maybe just try a different color.

>>776856
This is too much pressure ;_;