How long can meat wait between killing and eating, unrefrigerated?

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Depends on the temperature. You can hang the meat for a week on birds and rabbits and hares in a coldish cellar and it's still edible.

Forgot to say, it will be 75 degrees today. Tomorrow will be 50. I want to get to work but it could wait til tomorrow if it makes any difference.

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>>730762
What angle are you painting it from? If the belly isn't visible you could gut the rabbit and preserve the meat longer. 50 farenheit will probably be fine.

>>730757
I really want to see your painting when you're done with it :^)

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>>730764
Thank you so much for your replies.
I wanted the belly visible like this pose, but, I would change if it meant it wasn't killed and wasted for my folly.
So, it's 50 degrees, if we shoot it in the morning, gut the rabbit, I paint until dark (12 hours?), we could eat it for dinner?

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>>730767
Cool, I will happily share it when finished. Have some fish :)

>>730769
Pretty sure it'll be fine as long as no bugs get to it.

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>>730772
What a relief to hear! Thank you.

Can someone clarify the gutting thing for me? Someone once told me if you don't gut a rabbit within a few hours of its death, it's wasted. Is that bullshit?

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>>730843
No. You can hang rabbits and pheasants, that's where you hang them up in a cellar or coldish room and the meat gets softer and tastier the more you hang them, they're not refrigerated at all.. Some people hang them until the fur comes off when you touch them. You don't have to gut game birds but you do have to gut deer and rabbits.


You can still eat the rabbit even if it's had it's intenstines in for a while and you'd probably be fine. If the meat smells good after you've washed it then it's fine to eat.

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>>730848
Thanks for explaining more about the hanging. Sounds like even keeping it overnight (~24 hours before eating) should be all right.

I watched for rabbits this morning and saw none. Usually we see them in the afternoon/evening.

The radio says it will be in the 30s tonight -- so I am thinking instead of hoping to get it tomorrow AM, we can kill it tonight, I can do some drawing as well. Then paint tomorrow all day and eat the rabbit tomorrow night.

Been years since I had it but rabbit legs baked with mustard... mmm...

As others have said
Decomposition is temperature dependent, and it will start in abdomen because of the acids present.
Blow flys, the ones that lay eggs that turn into maggots are not active at temperatures below 55 degrees F.
Gut the animal, keep it cool.

Take a picture, it will last longer

Depends on shot location. If the intestines are ruptured then gut it out clean it asap if you want to eat it.

I hunt for most of my food. I sometimes carry around a sack of squirrels all day before I gut and clean them if I'm lazy. But usually once I kill something, I pull the skin off and gut it. Guts can decompose pretty quickly especially on a hot day, and I don't like contaminating my meat.

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OP, everyone covered the bases already so I'll just say that you should definitely post your painting when you're done.

I'm a big fan of Landseer and Landseer esq paintings. Pic related

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>>730851
>>731029
>>731102
Thank you all for your advice.

I was so excited! We sat out from late afternoon until dark, and also tried walking around the thicket, but, we didn't see a single rabbit. I suppose they are harder to find when you are looking for them. Hopefully today we will have success (perhaps I should also have asked advice on actually getting the rabbit- any suggestions are welcomed).

>>730854
A photo might last longer without change than the carcas, but in this case I prefer to make a painting of a rabbit, rather than a painting of a photograph of a rabbit. To me this is a clear distiction.

>>731121
Thanks for the picture! I wasn't familiar with his work. There's another Englishman, George Stubbs, who has done some fantastic hunting scenes, do you like his paintings?

>>732968
Holy shit.

>>732968
>>732988
You can also swing 'em over your head to gut 'em, too.

>>732968
It was only flopping around because of the way he was moving it, not because it was alive r...right?

>>733044
>I_shake_my_hare_back_and_forth.jpg

>>732968
Holy shit I'm vegan now!

>>730757
wait, are you the girl who painted the bear painting?!!

>>732968
>>732988
>>733044
>>733051
>>734373

gutting them this way is a sure fire way of catching some sort of disease..

>crushed liver
>crushed spinal cord
>crushed intestine and stomach

its all fun and games until you catch dat prion. remember, humans can catch em all. ;)

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I continue working on the painting, heading over now for the third day. Rabbit's eye sunk but doesn't smell. It got mid-sixties yesterday but my north-facing room is cold.
Pic is a drawing from Wednesday.

>>734385
That's not me, sounds interesting though

>>734387
Wow, thanks...

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>>733091

>>734654
>I saw it in a boom so it most be right

Altough feasable, this should only be done un extreme situations. You are boiund to contaminante the meat using that method

>>734387
Do elaborate please, what is prion etc. And how cooked meat can still be dangerous.

>>734810
Not him but not every toxin is exterminated with heat. Was going to make a disgracefull nip joke but I'll refrain.

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>>730767
>>731121
I'm still working on the painting -- bumping so thread doesn't die!

>>734387
rabbits are particularly resistant to prions

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>>730757

>>734810
A prion is a type of protein found in the nervous systems of most mammals. They are protease resistant proteins which means they are difficult for the body to break down. This is unfortunate because when a prion becomes misshaped, it will fuck up other prions it comes in contact with in a chain reaction. Prion-related disease include scrapie and mad cow disease and they are incurable and barely treatable.

>>730848
Implying rabbits ever smell good

>>730757
Where is our painting op?
I'm really interested in it

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>>738025
Here it is!

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Pic related is before signing but the color is more true
We decided to plant the rabbit under a cypress tree. It was longer and hotter than expected, and starting to go bad. A spider tried to lay eggs in its nose.

>>738188
wow anon thats beautiful

>>738188
Nice work, that crack on the wall really makes it remind me of some other old paintings

>>738191
>>738193
Thanks anons, that's really nice to hear

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>>738188
That is beautiful. Great job. Nice to see help on /out/ come into fruition into a great painting.

>>737758
They smell great stewing in a pot or roasting over a fire.

>>731721
>A photo might last longer without change than the carcas, but in this case I prefer to make a painting of a rabbit, rather than a painting of a photograph of a rabbit. To me this is a clear distiction.

I bet you're rude to cashiers and servers

>>738215
Thanks Draefend!

>>738369
i bet you're a cashier or server

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>>731721
>A photo might last longer without change than the carcas, but in this case I prefer to make a painting of a rabbit, rather than a painting of a photograph of a rabbit. To me this is a clear distiction
Sure...

>>733051
No it was fucking alive you fucking retard

>>738369
No she's just an artist. They're almost autistic at times in regards to this kind of stuff.

>>730843
I left one in a cool basement all day. Shot it checking traps in the morning and dressed it after school. I HAVE NEVER BEEN SICKER IN MY LIFE! I clean and cool things immediately now. Still don't care for rabbits much.

>>738180
>>738188

Gorgeous, thanks for posting!

>>741854
Well, obviously you've got to gut them ASAP, but after that they'll last a few hours as long as you keep them covered and out of the sun.

>>738180
>>738188
It's beautiful, OP. Good job.

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>>741867
>>741913
Thanks a lot!