Making my first homemade first aid kit for 3 day hiking trips.

>>706262
betadine
adhesive tape
cotton squarechief

>>706262
Throw out everything and except vodka, benadryl, imodium, ibuprofin, lip balm, sewing kit, duct tape, whistle, and tweezers.

Carrying bandages when you can cut up your cotton tshirt in the unlikelyhood of a major laceration is a waste of space. Start fires, drink it, or use the vodka for sterilizing instruments and cloth (not gauze). During your 3 day hiking trip, nobody is going to come find you via helicopter with your gay little mirror. Snake bite kits don't work and if you're only 3 days deep that's only 60 miles from the road you started on, you can get back to a hospital in no time. Vanilla? Let it burn you homo.

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>>706293
>hes gonna cut up his dirty underwear to dress his wounds
>emts face when sees it

>>706293

Not sure if bait or Amerifat and his discovery channel brainwashing.

>>706325
This

Op this is my list:
>roller gauze
Triangle bandage
>tape
>gloves
>shears
>iodine
>Imodium
>Tylenol
>space blanket

That pretty much covers every emergency you could treat yourself and survive.

T. EMT

>>706353
>2016
>still using iodine
wtf

>>706336
>not offering a logical alternative to the minimal list

>>706356
>promoting Antibiotic-resistant bacteria
Iodine works as well, if not better than antibiotic ointment. Plus, you can use it to disinfect water.

>>706486
iodine is toxic
the civilized part of the world is now using betadine (povidone-iodine) that won't kill you if it get's into open wound or on mucous membrane

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>>706262
Coban (Vetrap)
ABD pads
Triangle bandages (slings)

Avoid alcohol pads and get the benzalkonium or other non-alcohol based swabs, they'll sting less.

>>706262
I'm a WFR, so I've got a pretty stout medkit, and my standards are pretty high.

>Advil
Why are you buying name brand pharmacuticals
>Alchohol prep pads
Totally useless, propyl alcohol is terrible as an antiseptic. Use iodine or chlorhexidine pads.
>Band-Aids
Do you mean Bitch Stickers? Anything that can be solved with a band-aid is better off with a thorough washing, and fresh air.
>Benadryl
Good job, make sure you give this to someone going into anaphylaxis
>Gauze
Great, make sure you have a roll of gauze, and some non stick sterile pads as well
>Gauze tape
What do you mean by this? There are a lot of medical tapes, is it the kind that sticks to itself? Or is it the typical adhesive medical tape. Adhesive medical tape can be used to tape up athletic injuries like a sprained ankle as well.
>Rubbing alcohol
Once again, useless. Use iodine.
>Signal Mirror
You're better off with a survival whistle
>Snake bite kit
Totally useless, and a myth. The only option in the case of a snake bite is gentle evac, and antivenon.
>Tweezers
I hope they're needle nose, metal tweezers
>Vallia for burns
Yeah, this might wqork for a superficial burn, but for a partial or full thickness burn, don't put anything but wet (or dry if its cold out) gauze on the burn. DO NOT PUT BURN CREAM ON A PARTIAL OR FULL THICKNESS BURN. The ER docs will have to SCRUB that shit out. Not fun for the patient.


What I think you're missing.

>Gloves
>SAM splint
>Ace bandage
>Irrigation syringe
>CPR face mask
>10% Iodine in a squeeze bottle
>2 Triangle bandages for sling and swath
>Space blanket

>>706491
Fucking semantics. You knew damn well what I meant, you're just niggering about for the sake of argument.

>>706262
TQ (you can never have enough)
latex gloves
Israeli field dressing
trauma shears
burn cream
quikclot
medical tape
Israeli compression bandage 6"
whistle/ all the emergency signaling kit
tweezers
ibuprofen
chap stick
mars blanket.
SAM splint
chest seal

for the medic (these will save your life.)
NPA
chest decompression

>>706719
Handy HAM with the emergency signals programmed in, and a laminated list as a backup.

VS-17 marker panel

glow stick
3ft of paracord

signaling mirror

ect

>>706719

Do you guys live in the woods? 90% of this shit isn't needed for your typical 3 day hiking trip. You're at most a few miles from a road or park building. You're not Bear Grylls 1,500 miles from another human being. Unless you live in a shitty 3rd world country or plan on going on a hunting trip, a cheap CVS first aid kit will do just fine.

if you don't have a flashlight packed elsewhere, I'd throw one in here. You can get one of the little LED ones for like ~$4 and they're pretty compact and powerful

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>>706719
also, headlamps/flashlights are excellent pieces of kit

>>706729
Mate those are just good thing just to keep in your car.

You & your buddy could end up in a bad way either falling off a cliff or getting stabbed by some nutter. Accidents do happen, and it's a good idea to be prepared

But fine, watch your buddy bleedout and have to report to his/her family the reasons why they lost a leg or died, was because all you had a was a whistle and a few Spongebob band-aids.

>>706729
>90% of this shit isn't needed for your typical 3 day hiking trip
Right up until you do need it. I've dragged stuff around in my first aid bag for YEARS before needing to use it. After a certain point you just commit to a certain amount of space and weight for a first aid kit. Comes in handy when you need it, though.

>>706729
It's called being prepared. I still bring rain gear on a backcountry trip if the weather says there wont be any.

>>706729
Yeah, a cheap CVS first aid kit is going to stop arterial bleeding, or help splint an unstable compound fracture. A couple miles from a road doesn't matter with certain injuries, and the EMS are typically too fat and old to come hike that far into the woods. Not everywhere has a search and rescue team with a litter either.

>>706707
not exactly
some retard gonna waltz into a pharmacy and ask for iodine
they give him iodine tincture
he scrapes his knee and dies of toxic shock after smearing it with iodine
all because you did not choose to be articulate about your advice.

you can still buy tincture of iodine because it's cheaper and doctors still use it and they know how and when to. it shouldn't be anywhere near a first aid kit for civvies.

>>706729
you don't need any of that shit unless you are a field medic in a war zone

>>706719
>ibuprofen
that's shit and you know it ibuprofen is a joke if you head hurts a bit then sure take it for serious pain and inflammation it's like homeopathy

i would take diclofenac for nsaid

there are rapid version like flector rapid that can be dissolved into water to act in 10 minutes after consumption

>>706781
Read that as eternal

>>706262
For a lightweight kit I would carry the following. This is for a single person on the length of trip you described.

1 roll of medical tape, many kinds available. Doesn't have to be a whole roll obviously

a 4x4 gauze pad or two. various uses, can be trimmed to size.

fine point tweezers for splinters etc

hopefully you already have scissors. if not, get some.

2x Bezalkonium chloride wipes
assorted bandaids for awkward cuts and shit.

moleskin for blisters.
benedryl
acetaminophen for pain/swelling
loperamide or similar for diarrhea relief

2" or 3" gauze roll, various uses.

ACE bandage or similar for sprains.

packet of burn GEL NOT CREAM

small, flat wad of rolled-up duct tape

Some sort of hemorrhage bandage, I use an Olaes because it has a nice big wad of gauze you can pack into an open wound. If you are a really really poor person, 2 ABDs and some form of elastic bandage to create presure could be used in a jiffy.

A belt can be used as a less-than-ideal tourniquet, but you are unlikely to encounter that kinda bleeding, and even if you do, you are still fucked without immediate medical help.

This kit is for short trips not super far from help. That is an entire different methodology.

>>706746

I am more likely to be killed by a transgender at a stoplight while driving to the hike than getting stabbed in the woods or falling off the cliff. Seriously, Google the statistics. So how should I prepare for killing dick women?

Cornstarch and baking soda.

>>707059
>I am more likely to be killed by a transgender
based on statistics transgenders are more likely to get killed by magnitudes than you.

>>706293
>get minor cut on leg from a sharp rock
>have to destroy a quality shirt that isn't even made of cotton

OP, just bring assorted bandaids. They take up virtually no space and weigh very little.

Although he's right about the mirror. If you are serious about rescue, get a Spot messenger.

>>707217
mirror is excellent when you have to dig a thorn out of your ass or take a look at a split eyebrow

>>707247
or you want to check if there is any ticks under your ballsack

>>706262

Biggest thing one needs when it comes to first aid kits....training. See so many threads of ppl who throw in all this shit, no training to use it...specially suture kits. Build a bag that reflects your skill set.

A lot of time when I bring this up, a lot of excuses is "person going with me has training to use this stuff" if they got training, make them carry it.

Being an RN fag in the ER, I've seen so many dumb ppl come in and have used shit the wrong way, end up doing more damage to themselves.

Funnest one was some yrs ago...person came in with a crap ton of chemical burn all over their leg, cause they used quick clot on a cut that needed two stitches..person should of just bandage, apply proper pressure and come in.

Also if you are on the cheap, need a good blood stopper, pick up some women's pads (not tampons, can't recall the diaper name one) they are made to soak up a lot of blood, cheap, sterile, come in some good water resistant packaging.

>>707270
tampons are bretty good they were originally made to treat wounds or clean up mess in surgery.

>>707274

Tampons you need to insert into the wound itself, they can actually rip the skin and do more trauma to the area, while the pad goes over the area...with that and pressure the wound begins to form a clot to help stop the bleeding. When you remove that tampon you pushed into the wound, it ends up ripping that clot out too and making the wound bleed all over again. I've help treat gun shot victims, still rather use a pad + pressure instead.

>>707284
>Tampons you need to insert into the wound itself
i don't know about that, you can use it to apply pressure on it tho it's how i learned to use it.

>>707294

A tampon covers a much smaller surface than what a maxi pad does. It doesn't even cover half of what a maxi pad can do when fluffed out. When you spread it out that much to cover that surface space, you lose so much material to absorb the blood, that yu'll either need multiple ones to get the same effect, or its just worthless.

I been a RN fag since 99, in 03 I joined the military and served 4 yrs as a corpsman with two deployments, I've dealt with gun shots, I've dealt with stopping the bleeding from major trauma(missing limbs) from IEDs. So in my experience, I rather use some thing more effective, than use some thing that is less effective...now if that is all you got, you have nothing else to improvise with...than go for it. If you're making a bag and are on the cheap, why not put some thing covers more area, absorbs more blood, can be quick to apply and not need time to fluff it all out to use?

Even in the military, we were taught that if we don't have any thing to use to stop the bleeding...pack that wound full of dirt. Chances of infection is high, it will clog that wound up quickly, can easily save your life.

I know we can both agree on what I said earlier, that one should be trained for what they carry?

>>707249
That's why you should never go alone. I bring a ball buddy along so every night before I turn into my hammock we can feel each other's balls for ticks. Speaking of which I'm going to hike the Georgia section of the AT in a couple of months anyone wanna be my ball buddy?

>>707270
Quick clot can cause chemical burns?

The more you know. jpg

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>>706262

Compiled from past first-aid threads, feel free to add any missing items you think might be useful;

Alcohol swabs
Band-Aids
Batteries
Bic lighter
Butterfly bandages
Caffeine pills
Chapstick
Cotton balls
Duct tape
Emergency blanket
Eye wash kit
Flashlight
Gauze
Glasses repair kit and/or extra contact lenses
Hard liquor
ID and info
Iodine swabs
Liquid bandages
Magnifying glass
Meds (allergy, pain, Benadryl, etc.)
Metal wire
Mirror
Moleskin
Multi-tool
Needles
Notepad
QuickClot
Rehydration salts
Rubber gloves
Rubber tubing for tourniquet
Safety pins
SAM splints
Scissors
Sewing kit
Snake bite kit
Super Glue
Surgical skin stapler
Surgical tape
Swiss army knife
Tick pen
Tweezers
Twine
Vetwrap
Water
Water purification tablets
Whistle

>>707330
a fist full of tampons costs what half a dollar?
weights next to nothing?
there you go. use more than one if needed.
it's also awesome tinder catches flame from sparks.

>>707347
kaolin does not cause chemical burns tho
that must have been something else
it's basically sterile dirt

>>707022
Why the burn gel over cream

>>707059
They're called accidents for a reason but have fun.


>>706927
It's really just to deal with fever until you get out of there.

But, neat I'll look into that.

>>706922
If you can't take care of something life threatening, why even take an IFAK?

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medfag here
>analgetics & antipiretics combination (paracetamol) for pain and/or hipertermia
>It's not advised to use rubbing alcohol for wounds because it burns and damages the tissue. Use povidon iodine.
>in case of severe bleeding, of course roller gauze can help. You can tie it above the blood vessels so it will bleed much less, if not stop it. You can also use a belt for it. If a bleeding person is really bleeding, getting into shock or something, lay him on the ground, lift his legs (auto-transfusion) and untie his belt and shoes.
> Bring gloves. You never know who you might get stuck helping. Would it be aids/hcv infected person or perfectly healthy individual. Wear it for your protection.
> Suringes are useful. They can suck out anything needed or they can wash out.
> Don't suture yourself if you don't know what you are doing. You might hit some blood vessel and start bleeding more. Just pressure, bandage and get help asap.
> Always know your ways of getting out of /out/. Being alone out with broken leg is a pain in the... Well, leg. Not able to move, screaming in pains.

Im not seeing people posting up a plb

Injured seriously pull cord make self as safe and comfortable as can be, wait for tax payer funded evac by trained professionals who will save your life.

>>707568
I would reccoment taking something like a tk4 over using a belt.
a lot of times improviseded TQs don't work well enough to stop blood and you could end up with some serious nerve damage if you TQ isn't wider than 2inches.

TK4 is easy to aply to your appendages by yourself, lightweight and packable.

>>707249
>not shaving your ass and gooch to get the benefits of both clean pooping and able to feel for ticks

>>707564
as previously mentioned by another poster, the cream is a pain in the ass to get out of the wound once you arrive at the burn unit, and it can inhibit proper healing if not completely removed.

Gel, on the other hand, can easily be rinsed off. It is also much easier to apply without touching the persons burn, which will probably cause them to scream and hit you.

>>707347
>>707396
The original Quickclot was made of zeolite, which creates an exothermic reaction when it interacts with liquids. They pulled that product and replaced it with a sponge/baggie thing so the granules wouldn't go everywhere (like on your sweaty arm) and burn you. I think they still make those, I think. As the product has to come in contact with the blood vessels to be effective in clotting, I don't think those sponges are worth the dough.

The newer stuff, which goes by names like CombatGauze and EMSGauze, is a kaolin impregnated gauze roll product. This is packed into the open wound, up against the source of bleeding. The kaolin stimulates formation of a clot, without the potentially dangerous heat reaction. It can be found in z-folded rolls as "Combat Gauze" or Combat Gauze LE. Also comes in a regular gauze roll as "Quiclot EMS" as well as large trauma pads and 4x4"s. The Z Medica combat gauze product is deemed first choice by CoTCCC, the military working group that is the recognized authority on use of pre-hospital hemostatics. They recognize Chitoguaze as another suitable product if CombatGauze is unavailable. I am not 100% sure of the mechanism of action for that product.

If you want to deal with less severe wounds, there are other hemostatics that work. Surgicel has been in use for many, many years in surgery. It is a thin mesh that dissolves in the wound to form a clot barrier. Good luck finding it for a reasonable price though. If you have a friend that is a doctor, they might be able to "acquire" some for you, as many doctors carry some small supplies with themselves and often lift it from the supply cabinet.

Curad and others make similar, more accessible products that work in a similar fashion.

A little note: Quikclot is for serious (read:pulsing) bleeding that is not affected by direct pressure. It is not for cutting your finger tip or anything that does not produce massive hemorrhage, like a chainsaw accident.

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>>706293
>being this retarded.

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>>706293
Lets see how that works out for you...

>>707871
I was taught to use burn cream by an instructor who worked for a US military's burn center.

>>707915
Weird. Well, I'm not a burn specialist. So by all means, go with what s/he says lol. You also have to understand that almost any provider has a certain environment in which they operate, and what works in the ED or burn unit does always work well for other places like the outdoors.

>>707568
I bought a few sterile pre-threaded seuchering needles, but I've never had any training or practice using them

figured I'd only ever use them for major lacerations probably on legs or back
places where a bandage wouldn't keep a wound closed if I needed to move

how dangerous would it really be, am I likely to sew my way through a blood vesle?
and if there is that risk, is it the lesser evil compared to a large cut that I can't close

>>707934
Not him, but consider getting a disposable wound stapler instead. It is much easier to use, and often doesn't cause any pain. And it requires much, much less practice than sutures. They are often used on Scalp wounds and C-section incisions. And they are cheap.

Another options for small lacerations are surgistrips or similar wound closure strips.Basically butterfly bandaids on steroids, they can keep things closed until you visit the doc, or maybe even until it heals, depending on size.

>>707942
that's a really good idea, wound closure strips would be so much more useful than a needle I couldn't use very well

thanks anon

>>707953
NP. There are so many awesome medical products and I wish I had all the money in the world for them, because they get really spendy when you aren't buying in bulk like a hospital would.

Austere medicine really consists almost entirely of combining clinical research and best practices with the wide variety of products that are not traditionally thought of when one thinks "first aid." It honestly has more to do with wound care in hospitals and elsewhere than with normal first aid, if you are out in the woods long/far enough. Because of that, ideal care gets into things like alginates, silver and other fancy shit.I have some alginate dressings on order, and exactly 1 silver+alginate combo dressing, because they cost $15 dollars EACH.

This is way beyond the scope of a 3 day kit though. My kit is for getting home during a disaster or if left stranded by my vehicle, where it may be days before I get proper care, so prevention of infection is paramount.

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>>706921

This is a 110/10 autism post--take notes and learn from this master

>>706627
Hey man, if you're still around, mind listing off your kit for us? Looking to beef mine up.

>3 day trip
>first aid kit

Why?

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>>706262
Just take one of these.

>>708060
so you don't have to quit two days in from some chickenshit injury because you need it treated promptly and you don't have anything

to treat minor injuries comfortably

to reduce your exposure to infection, which otherwise is a straight up gamble

even if it's only antiseptic and a bandage, it's worth taking something

>>707072
Transgender murder rate is less than that of the general population.

>>708098
that is prolly the opposite of what i heard so far on the subject.
they are very small part of the population with allegedly incredibly high chance of being murdered.
they say stuff like 1 in 20 will be murdered based on statistics. rest of the population is like 5 out of 100000

>>707893
i usually rub salt into wounds that annoy me with bleeding.
it stops the bleeding very fast. causes the wound to contract. stings a little.

the only things I bring

Blister pads
Adhesive bandages, various sizes
Ibuprofen
Compression wrap bandage
Small roll of gauze

That's it. No snake bite kit because they don't work at all.

>>707915
i was told that sperm is great for burns
helps heal the skin and everything
also you always have it at hand

>>708341
>>708345
You need to apply yourself Anon, 1/10 for making me respond.

>>708353
>apply yourself
kek that's a good one

how did this thread turn to shit

goddamn guys, I wanted to learn things

Throw some rubber gloves in there. You may have to help someone else, and you just never know these days.

Space blanket.

A pen and paper.

making up a kit for my bob
I got a half litre bottle of povidone iodine, some mayo scissors, fine tipped tweezers, a fuckton of gauze, some medical tape, triangle bandage, some plasters and a bunch of normal bandages
am I good?

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Do you guys spray Permethrin on your clothes or get a DEET bug spray for your skin? I'm mostly concerned about chiggers and gnats in my face.

>>708836
500ml of povidone seems excessive. You are better off finding some more up to date wound coverings than a ton of gauze. Tegaderm, for instance, is a much better wound covering than a large pad. If you have the bread, alginates will help with healing in a no hospital available situation, especially ones with with silver for dealing with infection. They cost a lot though.

>>708978
eh it was the same price as a 50ml bottle and I figured it would be a "lifetime"s worth in a shtf
I'll look into those though

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>>708862
>worried about insects
>spray poison all over your body

>>708980
DEET harms your body no more than the chemicals in your shampoo does mate.

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>>708978
>>708978
Jesus Christ the tegaderm I can do but the alginates, damn they're pricey
shikata ga nai
found these with silver laced pads, they'll have to do

>>708992
This. When used as directed, the benefits outweigh the risks by a couple dozen orders of magnitude. Obviously, if you're ingesting it, or applying highly concentrated amounts to your skin, you'll have a bad time, but that's not going to happen unless you're criminally retarded.

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>>706262
Got it for 7,29 €

I never will carry the full package.

>>706719
>>707582
what's TQ?

Duct tape
Some anti-bacterial cream

There I just saved you about 5 pounds of weight. Unless you're going on some crazy multi week journey so far out that you wouldn't be able to get to civilization within a few days you really don't need all that shit.

>>709127
+ a super felxible (arm) splint

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>>706293
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 5/7 no h8

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I have pic related anyone know if it's worth keeping in my woods first aid kit? it's something called "inadine pvp i non adherent dressing"

>>709137

It's unnecessary. I've lived all my life and never needed one, and if I did I could probably improvise with the duct tape.

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>>709155
>and if I did I could probably improvise with the duct tape.
you also could use coals or steam engine.

todays people use todays technolgy.

>>709172

I try to avoid carrying things that I'll probably never need and only have limited specific uses. If I can make do with something that's already in my pack then why bother?

>>709112
Tourniquet.

>>709095
Yeah I know, they are pretty spendy if you can't find the right place to buy them. The great thing about silver dressings is you can usually leave them on a long time.

TheMountainRN on youtube talks about a lot of this stuff, and he knows what the fuck he's talking about, being both a critical care nurse and flight nurse among other things. He also has some useful videos with UrbanPrepper. Check them out.

>>706262
>>First responder medical kit

Hopefully I can get some help on a solid medical kit for a first responder.

I would need something to deal with everything from a small cut to a gunshot wound while waiting for medical/fire to arrive. It wouldn't be carried on my person, but shouldn't be so large as to be obnoxious.

Any advice?

>>708338
you've been spending too much time on tumblr

>>710567
statistics don't lie
they're a fractionally small part of the population and have a disproportionate murder rate
and those are just the ones that are known about

>>706293
>using vodka to sterilise anything

Great idea if you want to leave a shitload of food for bacteria inside your wound

>>710541
Honestly, that all depends on your level of training. I am going to guess at just plain ole first aid. Possibly EMR at the very most. That being said, the following can be used with minimal skill, but will probably take up more room than you expect.

2-4 ABD pads
4-6 4x4 pads
2x rolls of Kerlix or similar fluff gauze, NAR and H&H make a similar, super compressed product for about the same price, but it is slightly harder to get out of the package in a hurry.
10x30 Multitrauma dressing
2-4 rolls roller gauze
2 rolls wide ace bandage
medical tape
splint
shears
bandage scissors
bandaids
BKZ wipes
nitrile gloves
2x space blanket
2 cohesive bandage roll

1 bottle 81mg chewable asprin 4 by mount for MI, which you should know already.

IF, and I do mean IF, you have the training, you should carry a pair of NPA's and a set of Berman or similar OPA's, and a one of those disposable bag-valve masks. Otherwise, just a CPR pocket mask will do. Be sure to have eye-pro.

Another "if you have training" item is a disposable OB kit. Not that you really need training to catch a baby, but it helps, as does the sterile blanket and umbilical cord clamps.

This also has nothing to do with outdoor first aid kits bro.

>>710567
i looked it up it's true official statistics don't include every death as they are sometimes not identified as transgender but it's still incredibly high rate.

1 in 20 is the best case some say 1 in 8 especially if the tranny is of color.

>>709177
>why bother?
the arm splint weights below 100 gramms

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>>706293

>"I'm the tough guy archetype who tells everyone to "be real men" by throwing away important items and nigger-rigging a plethora of bad options instead."

>>706262
moght wanna get some plastic gloves and some elastic bandage definitely. For sprains and bad knees and everything else. Thank me later

I always pack a small bottle of vinegar in addition to my first aid kit. That stuff comes in handy for many things. Also really helpful if you experience sunburn.

I'm found out I was super allergic to hornets after getting stung by 5 at one time. The hornet best was hidden in the interior of a blackberry vine. Luckily a friend was with me and got me to the hospital in time. I carry an epi pen with me at all times now, especially when /out/.

>>711080
Jesus...fuckin autocorrect. Sorry about all the errors.
It was a hornet *nest

I know Sam splints are reuseable as you just unbend the folds and roll it back up
but you can cut them right?

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I don't think it's worth it to make a new thread so I will just ask here:
I have to take 7-8 pills every day should I get an extra container or just put them in my first aid kit?
Picture related seems nice, but is probably way too small
I went hiking before, but never slept outside

>>706423
Bandages, triangular and pressure. Gauze, medical tape, safety pins, sterile pads, anti histamines, Sam-splint needle and thread.

> How's that?
> Also, I hope you're not >>706293
> That's some top tier horrible advice

>>707979
I disagree. Not using iodine is a valid point. It has been proven to be harmful and there are non-antibiotic antiseptic alternatives.

Please take a first aid course everybody. NOT online though.

>>706325
he clearly said shirt not underwear moron.

>>714837
>Some items of clothing are designed as undergarments, while others, such as T-shirts and certain types of shorts, are appropriate both as undergarments and as outer clothing.

>>714837
even worse
my underwear is probably cleaner than my shirt

>>706491
>iodine is toxic

Lugol's iodine is not only non-toxic in small enough doses but necessary for human health. 90% of Americans are deficient in iodine.

>>715045
>Because it contains free iodine, Lugol's solution at 2% or 5% concentration without dilution is irritating and destructive to mucosa, such as the lining of the esophagus and stomach.
shit has free iodine in it should be avoided just to be sure
there are better alternatives
altho it can be used as supplement i don't think that should be anything than extreme measure as you don't have perfect control over the dosage like with iodine pills or multivitamins.