Old thread >>567146 Not OP from the old thread but I&

US Farm Income and Taxes,
http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-marketing-and-management/farm-income-taxes-14991.aspx

US Grants and Loans for Small Farms,
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?navid=GRANTS_LOANS
http://afsic.nal.usda.gov/farms-and-community/grants-and-loans-farmers
http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/funding.shtml

Managing Risks on Your Small Farm,
http://agr.wa.gov/Marketing/SmallFarm/managerisk.aspx

Chicken info and forum,
http://www.backyardchickens.com

Rabbit guide
http://www.agriculture.gov.tt/publications/manuals/rabbit-production-a-producer-s-manual.html

A public access seedbank for many types of rare or endangered plants; both edible and ornamental,
http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/index.htm

Organic and heirloom selections:
http://sustainableseedco.com/
http://www.seedsofchange.com/
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/

Potato, Sweet Potato, and Tubers seed bank (free, but requies filling out forms and waiting in line):
http://www.cipotato.org/

Awesome interactive plant/gardening maps for USA, Canada, France, UK, BC, (frost dates, temp zones, etc):
http://www.plantmaps.com/index.php

Sprout seeds and info:
sproutpeople.org

Insect Habitats for attracting polinating bees, predatory/parasitic wasps, hibernating ladybugs, butterflies, etc.
http://www.inspirationgreen.com/insect-habitats.html

Toad and Hedgehog Habitats,
[YouTube] Toad Houses (embed) [Embed]
http://familycrafts.about.com/od/frogcrafts/a/How_To_Make_A_Toad_Village.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/breathingplaces/hedgehog_home/
http://www.britishhedgehogs.org.uk/leaflets/L5-Hedgehog-Homes.pdf

Chili Peppers
http://www.fatalii.net/

More on Aquaponics & Aquaculture,
[YouTube] Aquaponics (embed) [Embed]
[YouTube] Aquaculture: Cage Culture (embed) [Embed]
http://www.appropedia.org/Aquaponics

Sourcing plants from the grocery,
http://www.diyncrafts.com/4732/repurpose/25-foods-can-re-grow-kitchen-scraps

I messed up some of the Youtube links, so here you have them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNxACJ9vPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKq5geEM-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JetkWtw7Jc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=26xpMCXP9bw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_WgfaJjvfxA

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Picked my watermelon for Labor Day, it's big.

How do I make a good tomato cage?
Next year I don't want all those vines fallen towards the ground.

>>587488
Congrats! Post pics of it sliced.

>>587496
You could always use stakes. Or three stakes with twine between them.

>>587488
UUUU

>>587488
its huge!

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>>587496
Use pic related

Hi guys I have noticed some fruiting Gooseberry and Bramble bushes in a field near to my house, could I take some of the fruits and plant them or am I being retarded. Or could I cut a small portion and plant that? I'm trying to start a little allotment

>>587708
>tomatenstangen
Why do Germans always do everything better‽

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that feel when you move into a house after living in only apartments and have gardens. GARDENS

>>587878

I'm going to transition directly from living with my dad to buying a house. 20 yo with $30,000. That's a down payment on a decent house in central FL.

>>587878
that's lovely but it's cluttered as dicks. gotta get some feng shui in there

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>>587878
the landlord left loads of stuff behind but the garden needs a lot of weeding.

I've dug out these little plots though and I intend on filling them with compost and use them as raised beds. I live in the south of England and people keep telling me there's nothing worth putting in the soil now.

I did some reading and found that I could put something like mustard down as a green manure or maybe plant some garlic and onions. does that sound like my only option?

If you were starting from scratch and had a 1x1 metre and 50x50cm raised beds along with 50x50cm worth of pots with poor drainage what would you do?

>>587885
root vegetables imo

>>587828
Here's a pro tip, don't ever plant blackberries in your yard. You turn around and within a season half your yard is now blackberries and they are almost impossible to get rid of. Just gather them at your nearby spot.

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Whelp /growmen/, my cactus died. I posted in the last thread with a sick cactus, and it finally died. It was a rough couple days but I didn't want to keep sulking SO I went out into the yard and harvested a patch of moss that has some grass and some wintergreen shrubs growing in it. Stuffed it into the empty pot and have it in an eastern-facing window.

I hope it lives forever ^_^

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I'm trying to grow poppies in the American northeast, zone 6a, and they're looking a little sickly in the leaves. any advice? more pics to follow.

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>>588571
poppies

>>588571
judging from the moss the area is draining too poorly for poppies. plant diakon radish and add sand and charcoal to the soil.

>>588572
probably more sun too

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Something has eaten it's way up the stem of my seedling. I've seen this damage before on other older plants, leaves as well as soft stems, I think. I always ignored it as the damage was minor but now it seems like it will kill this seedling and maybe spread to others. What is it and what do?

Just finished drying out my jalapenos. Grinder them up into a very spicy spice. If interested I'll post pics.

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Another lazy afternoon at the farm stand.

Could this thread also be a homebrewmen thread?

>>588814
Please do

>>588840

The thread doesn't get much traffic this time of year. I wouldn't object.

>>588571
Thin your plants between 6 to 12 inches
Trust me it will significantly increase your yield

You go from having a lot of small plants with a few small bulbs to having a few huge plants with a shit ton of giant bulbs

Oh and now that they are already growing bulbs don't water unless you absolutely have to

>>588039

damn dude if you wanted a plant so bad I could send you an aloe vera pup
they're the chinensis ones, pup like crazy

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here is a pic of my second tomato harvest. yellow pear, super sweet 100, zebra cherry and cherokee purple. I already have 24 pints of them canned

>>587885
update:

I've dug down into the stone bed and made it my composting hole. Is it really bad to compost into the soil instead of above it? Most composting guides I see all mention raised pens for composting.

I'll turn it over once a week and water it once a week until the rain shows up. I have it covered with a piece of cardboard and have been using shredded cardboard as the carbon along with dead weeds (pulled not killed with weedkiller) and vegetable peelings for nitrogen. I've also layered some of the bad stony soil in too. Does that sound about right?

>>589131
All my tomatoes this season died of various fungi.

I'm in jealous awe. How many plants did you have to yield that many tomatoes?

>>589183
Stones aren't so good for compost. They don't break down and some root crops will grow poorly with rocky soil (others DGAF).

The reason people do raised bed is because of roots growing up into the compost area. I've had it happen with a raised one.

>>589131
i bet you wanted someone to comment on your rifle, didn't you?

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Luxury ayy

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>>589207
Sorry to hear about your tomatoes, that really sucks when that happens. I have 7 cherokee purple plants that still have a shit ton of tomatoes on them green and ripe. I only have 1 sweet 100 cherry tomato plant, but it has been producing like crazy this season. I have 3 of the yellow pear which will continue to produce well for the next few weeks and I also have 3 zebra cherry tomato plants. I'm pretty disappointed with the zebra's, they didn't produce much and the plants always seemed a bit sickly for no apparent reason. It's a lot of work dealing with that many plants though, they get pretty fucking big and you have to stay on top of the trimming otherwise it gets out of hand pretty quick.

>>589236
Someone always does, this time it was you ;^)

Pic of my first tomato harvest this year.

>>589210
Should I lay something like stones in the bottom of it to stop roots from getting in?

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Concerning tomatoes, I really like how they're spread out among the season this year. First ones were ripe by mid-July (pic related) but high season is only just now, so I hope to be able to harvest the latest ones around end of October

>>589127
thanks bro but I actually like my wintergreen tbh. plus i eat the berries it's good stuff

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>>589131
Pic of the canned product. 18 four tomato blend, 6 Cherokee purple only.

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>>589329
Side by side comparison

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Anyone grow muscadines? I love eating them and I hear they are pretty tough.

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My watermelon vines started to put out new little melons and it's about to rain, so I picked most of the mature ones. I've had decent success picking nice ripe ones this year. They're heavy.

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what can I do to get started for next spring? I'm going to plant some peonies.
According to this the best time to plant is in autumn:
http://hollingsworthpeonies.com/planting_instructions
What else can I get started on?

>>589183
composting above the soil allows air to get in.
You want good air flow to aid the microbes

Bought some strawberry plants from home depot on a whim a couple weeks ago. They've made it through leaf spot. There might be cutworms. I sprayed something to deal with them but for all I know they could still be there. Two of the plants are relatively healthy, while another one seems nearly dead. All plants were given the same soil and water, so I'm not sure why one of them is drastically different than the others.

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>>590458
Pic related. It was "fine" about a week or two ago.

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I had noticed many a slug trail and missing portions of leaf, and left out a beer trap. Either these guys have no taste for cheap beer, or I picked a poor vessel for it- I got ants beetles and roaches, but no slugs.

I normally go out early morning and kill 1 or 2, but I knew there had to be more.

So I went out tonight with a flashlight.

I found them immediately and started counting my kills.

21.

21 goddamned slugs.

>>590557
save them
and fish with them.

>>590629
That's what my dad said! I live in Florida though-- freshwater fishing comes with some unwanted danger. I do all my fishing on vacation in less predator filled climes.

Also, I went back out an hour later and found 9 more.

After planting my chilis this year, I had some soil left over so I decided to plant a few random varieties of the seeds that I had from a previous year. I only had very small pots for them (they were in plastic pint and half pint cups) but I'm broke and only have a small balcony anyway.

Each plant that grew only produced a few chilis as expected in such a small pot, but now I have quite a few random chilis from different plants. Rather than making them in to sauce or chutney like the others I have, I was hoping to preserve them.

Is it better to preserve in olive oil? Or some kind of brine? Or vinegar? Or a mixture? Ive never done chilis that way before.

What's /out/'s opinion on Masanobu Fukuoka and his "natural farming"? Just finished his book, One-Straw Revolution, and though a lot of his philosophy/reasoning seemed sort of out there, his results and his practice certainly seem to bear out his ideas.

Did the original OP of these threads die or something?

Anyway glad to see they're still going.
I have to move at the end of the month so I've done most of my gardening in vain it seems.
>Feelsbadman.jpg

My little brother is in prison and is interested in horticulture. I can only send him one book, so I want to get this right. Can anyone help me pick a 'beginner' one for him? The longer the better I suppose.

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>>590919
don't send him anything that has detailed information about fertilizers or anything that might be useful to grow drugs

>>590895
>Be me
>Moved house every August or September for the past 5/6 years

I know that feeling man. Im about to move again next week. Most of my chilis are ready but 2 of the superhots are just beginning to flower.

>>590921
yeah I don't know much about horticulture or botany. I wouldn't want to send him something illegally suggestive..

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Decorated my table for a party tomorrow.

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>>590967
>mfw

>>590864
I'm all in favor of no till and permaculture stuff to make your garden work as efficiently as possible without much input. haven't read his book, but I've heard about it and I feel like I've seen a documentary about him

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>>590967
I wish my garden was that prolific. That's an impressive table spread.

Sluganon here: found 9 more in the morning and 17 tonight. I don't know if they'll ever stop coming. That's like a total of 50 slugs in 24 hours.

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Well I've put down some compost and planted sets of onions and garlic, also have some lettuce growing in planting trays before I put them into the patch

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>>591519
I couldn't find anywhere to put the lettuce trays but my gf came up with what looks like a really good idea. We'll keep them under this plastic container until they've sprouted and then pick the best ones to plant in the patch with the garlic and onions.

Will that plastic container work or do we need something less air tight?

>>591522
prolly be a nice little makeshift greenhouse tbh

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First pickling cucumber, This garden is too damn small. Any of yall do vertical gardening? I think it would be pretty cool mounted on the fence for herbs

>>592670
well, that sure is a nice piggle but gosh anon that is a small garden. you should tear down the wall and expand that!

why is the thread so slow? Is it because winter is coming? Just finished my pretty large indoor aquaponics build. If anyone is interested i could post some pics.

frenchanon here. still harvesting zucchinis and tomaties everyday. broccolis are almost good, as well as cabbage. replanted one last row of leaks that will be good in the spring. seeded some black radishes and winter spinach. lightly tilled the unused space of the garden (about half of it now) and seeded mustard for green fertilizer. first time doing this curious to see how it works out. it's been raining quite a bit and it's sprouting already.

fucked my neck working on a ceiling in the house though. hope it heals fast cause lumberjacking season is almost here ... :/

>>592825
In which région do you live?

>zucchinis
Do you buy the seeds or harvest them?

>>591198
Can you afford to build a hedgehog shelter?

>>592835
1 hour south of paris. i've never harvested zucchini seeds so far. was planning to do it this year but im not really satisfied with the type i grew this season. i'll go back to my favorite black beauties next spring and try to harvest these.

>>592841
When do you sow them?

>>592843
zucchinis ? directly in the ground in early to mid may depending on the weather. 2 or 3 seeds in one tiny hole every 80cms. they're really easy and require basically no maintenance once they're grown. on a good rainy year they yield soooo much food and there are so many ways to cook them. it was a little dry for them this july though.

>>592849
Great. Now I really want to grow some!

As for mustard, do you simply grow it then cut it and let it rot in place?

>>592850
you should ! they're really worth it.

and yes exactly. they have a natural ability to enrich the ground in nitrogen through their roots. gotta maw them when they start flowering and either leave to rot or till over them to incorporate in soil. its only my first year trying it though.

>>592852
I knew about the nitrogen-fixing properties of peas, beans and clover (Fabaceae) but not mustard (Brassicaceae). Any reference on that?
According to the internet, mustard and its kin are actually using up the nitrogen from the ground, which means growing some and then fertilizing with it provides no substantial gain...

>>592856
you're absolutely right i got all mixed up. im growing it mostly to cover and aerate the ground in the winter and despite having a garden for several years am still pretty confused about the chemistry of it all.

>>592859
Heh, trial and error ;)

Anyway, good luck with your gardening!

>>592856
"Numerous studies have shown that live mustard plant tissues, both seeds and roots, contain compounds that work as soil biofumigants by killing nematodes and pathogenic fungi. Reaping this benefit requires handling mustard like a green manure, because the beneficial compounds are released within hours after the plants are chopped down. But if you wait two weeks after turning under chopped mustard and then plant lettuce, you can expect a very productive crop with very few weeds."

growveg.com/growblogpost.aspx?id=312

chiotsrun.com/2012/07/09/the-benefits-of-mustard-in-the-garden/

on the fixation of nitrates:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24239817


mostly experimenting on my side. i'll report in the spring and tell you how it worked ~

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Is krabappel-anon around? Does anyone know what I've got here? I found a couple wild krabappel trees innawoods and was wondering if they're edible and what I can do with them. There's a huge haul, bucketloads of 'em. I'd like to harvest before the deer and bears and birds and shit go apeshit on the apples!

Could I make a pie??

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>>593061

>>593061
holy shit I just cut one open and took a bite. yes, it's definitely an apple! it's fucking delicious too. a little sour but not nearly as bad as i've been led to believe. nice and ripe too (juice, tender, and the seeds are brown). fuckmyballs i'm grabbing a bucket and going applin'!

>>593061
Those are wild apples, crab applez are red inside hence why the jelly is so red

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>>593099
did i fuck up and harvest apples before they were ripe? i just went out and there are dozens of trees. some are the little cherry-like ones and some are small and yellow. a couple trees are medium-sized and partly red. then i noticed some of the yellow ones were also medium-sized... are they just unripe then? i got like 30 of them -_-

I couldn't get near the red variety though, the brambles and prickers were way too thick. it's like Mirkwood bullshit trying to get through there. i'll post pics in a bit of all the varieties i saw. i really hope i can make a pie with these little green ones. the seeds are brown... i read that means they're ripe?

>>591123
Yeah, his methods I can respect, but the philosophy behind them is a little loopy. The idea that science can only hurt agriculture and rejecting it is a bit out there.

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>>593061
>>593110
here's some more pics of the varieties. I didn't really get any shots of the green/yellow clusters still on the branch because I got excited and harvested them instead.

>>593110
If they taste ripe, they are ripe. Congratulations it sounds like you have stumbled across an old farm's/homestead's orchard, which explains why you are see such a variety of apples. The next thing to do is see if you can locate where the house used to be. Try looking for remnants of a foundation, or a well. Oftentimes the house is located in what is now the middle of brambles.

I like to go metal detecting when /out/ and always keep my eyes open in the spring for flowers that bloom from bulbs, like daffodils. Since they're not native to where I live, the only way they could get here is to be planted by someone. This is a great way to find places to metal detect. I also look for other non-native flowers and plants, but since they could be spread by the wind or animals, bulb-based flowers are a better indicator where people have lived in the past. They are so much easier to spot in spring.

>>593149
Not him, but now that you mention abandoned orchards, we have quite a few in the area too, but they usually get overtaken by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_plum because they get leaves very early in the year (March) and drop them very late (December), and in extreme cases (mild winter) start flowering already in early January, one of the very few deciduous trees around here to do so, so I'm replanting a few into my garden

>>593149
the particular hill it's on has been a farm since around 1690. the farm basically ceased around 1900 but a farmer in another town still owns the hill and he mows it for straw once a year, or less. the whole area is basically going farrow and the thick viney/bramble section has been overgrown since my parents bought the abutting land in the 1970s, so the apples have probably been abandoned at least 50-100 years. technically i did steal them though, but i've been going back there my whole life and never ever see any signs that anyone has tromped through the prickers. so i would bet my life savings and left gnutt that nobody wants them apples, or is even aware of them. as determined as i was, i couldn't even get close to most of the trees i saw, just snapped some pics of the high branches with my telephoto lens.

in regards to your metal detecting comments - i've posted in a number of metal detecting threads because of my interest in using one around here. i've never done it though. on the opposite side of the hill there was a huge rusted silo in the woods with a big stone foundation next to it (presumably an old barn or farmhouse). all that was bulldozed about 6 years ago though, and a house is sitting there now. apparently somewhere in the woods there's still another foundation that showed-up in a town survey report from 2006, but never in my life have i located that. also, based on a history of my town written in 1856, there's a sizeable 1690s-era root cellar somewhere on the hill as well. never found that either, it's probably been bulldozed. most of the hill has remained in use this entire time, so it's probably been bulldozed and graded a million times over the centuries. still, probably lots of cool things lying in the ground around here. for now i'm happy with the apples.

they're a little sour but not even as sour as a granny smith tbh, and they're juicy!

How actually hard is Hydro/aero/aquaponics?

>>593606
From easiest to hardest, I think they are in the order you listed.

Hydroponics is very simple, you just need your nutrients and a method (kratky, dwc, drip, ebb and flow, nft) Those are roughly in order in complexity in my opinion. A Kratky system, for example, is incredibly easy to throw together once you have the nutrients.

Aquaponics is more finicky because you of course have to have to keep the fish alive and need to get the nitrogen cycle going which takes time. Also, from everything I've seen, aquaponically grown plants never look all that robust, even when they are doing well. However, I can see how setting up a little looping ecosystem could be very satisfying when you get it right.

As far as aeroponics, I don't really understand why people bother with it. It just seems like overly complicated hydroponics that requires more specialized equipment. I can't find any advantages over regular hydroponics, except for its novelty.

>>592862
The growveg.com link is dead, and I can't reach ncbi.nlm.nih.gov at the moment (but found the research paper elsewhere).

Btw, nitrates are a form of soluble nitrogen readily available to plants, already present in the ground. But what matters when your goal is to biologically increase the N content of your soil is nitrogen fixation. Chemical means to this end are, for instance, calcium cyanamide and blood meal.

So... Use mustard as a cover crop to "cleanse" the area, and use Fabaceae (esp. clover, alfafa, soybeans) to restore the N ratio when it's been drained by a previous crop, or in sight of a greedy one.

Potato harvest in central/eastern Washington state is on like donkey Kong. Will try to get some pics later if there's interest. Will post later yet, I won't be able to in the field because apparently my wireless carrier has a ISP/rangeb&. Can post pics from home though around 15 hours from now.

>>587878
I'm still yearning for this feel

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>>587488
I'm still eating this thing. Just a tiny bit over ripe, but sweet and good. I need a bigger knife.

>>593076
hah

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Little pepper patch.

>>594366
is that enough for a peck? i hope it's at least a peck of peppers.

>>594366
What're you growing bro? Those purple ones look cool

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>>594428
it's a peck of purple peppers

>>588833
BEAUTIFUL!

Do you own the sunflowers?

>>588833
do you guys have lots of customers? damn I'd come buy the place right out

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>>594428
Black Knight, Black Pearl, Yellow Bell, Chinese 5 Color, Takanotsume.

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>>588833
You actually man your farm stand? Around here everyone just leaves them out and had a box you put money into.

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soupe au chou tonight ~

When should i dig up my potatoes?

anyone have a good seed starting setup? We want to try seed starting this winter but im not sure a good way to do it. Lights? plastic trays?

>>595558
Really depends on the plant in question and climate.
For example here in the oceanic climate (Western Germany, similar to coastal Washington state or British Columbia), tomatoes can be sown inside starting in late January, have them pre-grow a little and then planted outside by mid-April (without lamps, if you have lots of space indoors and lamps then I guess you could probably already start in December if you really want to harvest in June already, but IMO it's not worth the horrendous electricity bill)

>>595546
i'd say it's a even a bit late now for most places but depends on your climate.

>>595546
if the plants are dead dig them up

What's a good starter plant for someone in Southern Australia, Melbourne to be exact?

>>595811
Perthanon here
Tomatoes i reckon, they need 4 months of above 20C days though
Fuckin easy though

>>595904
>>595811
Oh, Australians. Checked your cities, and apparently you (alomst) never get frost, so you could probably seed out tomatoes any time of the year and grow them perennial

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>>587488

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>>595906
Yeah i grow them perennially. Melbourne is cold though, at least for straya.

Pic related , a cold winter day

>>594862
seriously?

Damn, that must be one nice community. All that trust!

What's the best way to give my tomatos support?
Next year I will keep them upright, this year they all fell to the ground which made pruning impossible and a lot of tomatoes ended up rotting.

>>596233
See >>587708
Just gently guide them around these stakes and remove side shoots and you should be fine

>>596236
It looks too easy

>>594862
that's what i usually do too, but once in a while i just go sit in there for a while and read and relax.

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>>594597
yeah i planted the sunflower wall mostly to draw attention to the stand, it works.

these are kong sunflowers, they grow over 12 feet high and have like 10 flowers or more per stem.

Everyone lives in cold regions? What would you cultivate in a hot climate? Its 100°F and I buried some garlic. Its my first attempt at gardening. Suggestions?

>>589259
>Plastic lower
Gross

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now my wintergreen is dying. i have a fucking black thumb.
>>588039

>>595964
It's how the entire state of Maine does farm stands. Also camp firewood. And once I saw a yard sale with a box and no one.

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Just a quick update on my wild apple project. I made a fuckin' pie and it's fuckin' d'licious.

The big red apples were inedible, the medium green ones were ok but sour and rather mealy, and the little yellow ones were juicy and sweet! the pie mostly has the little yellow fellows with a couple of the sour ones mixed in for fun. this is my first apple forage
>>593144

>>596883
Hmm does it maybe have some shroom infection?
I tried to cultivate ivy, which is one of the most IDGAF plants here of all, as a room plant last year experimentally by cloning it from a cutting of the massive hedge it forms in the garden, and while it rooted very easily and even shot new leaves in the middle of January (those fuckers barely need any light it seems, also tolerate both very wet and very dry conditions, on top of that being evergreen and frost hardy down to -30°C or so) I still managed to kill it, by mid-March it got brown spots on the leaves which grew ever bigger and eventually infected the whole plant which I then had to throw away

>>596902
it doesn't seem to have any sort of parasite. it's just getting wrinkled. there was a wintergreen berry growing on one of them, which I would expect to turn red eventually, but instead it's all deflated and looks like it's gonna drop off dead. it's growing in a patch of moss and i've kept it wet but not soaked. it also stays in indirect sunlight just like the plants outside. idunno, something's making it unhappy

>>596907
Well then watering too much maybe? That's one of the most common errors in horticulture. Or too little light? Is your window facing north maybe?

>>596913
my window is facing east, so in the morning it gets some sun but the rest of the day it's indirect. they don't tolerate much direct sunlight so i think i'm doing that right (i was reading that wintergreen will grow best in an east-facing window). maybe it is too wet. i'll let it dry out a few days and hope it comes back

first time posting on /out/ but seems like the best place to ask:

Is it possible to grow two bonsai in one pot? I want to grow a lemon and a lime bonsai and have the trunks intertwine.

>>596917
Could you just graft branches from lemon and lines trees in what positions you want?


also sprite tree.

>>596926
That was another idea, and since this will be my first attempt at bonsai from seeds, I will likely grow several, and two in one pot seemed easier than grafting bonsai. Might try both!

>also sprite tree.
Something like that lol. Lemons are my favorite fruit, so I care more about having a nice looking lemon bonsai, but my mind ran away with additional ideas, I guess.

>>596915
Yeah you could check the roots for rot by water damage

>>597280
>>596883
Also googled the plant meanwhile. Apparently it actually does like moist and shady conditions. Do you have a radiator already running, especially below the window sill where it stands? Too dry air might then be an issue. Also it needs acidic conditions, maybe your compost is too alkaline/chalky.
To simply test it without expensive pH meter, get two small samples of your compost and put them in little (for example shot) glasses, cover them with water, stir and wait a little until all air is out. Then have one solution of baking soda and one acidic one (dilute citric or muriatic acid, vinegar... whatever) ready and add them to glass 1 and 2 respectively. If the glass where you added the acid bubbles (hold your ear near it if necessary) then the soil is alkaline/chalky, if the one where you added the soda solution does, then it's acidic

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>>597280
Well I don't want to pull/tip it out of the pot atm. I have a feeling perhaps I overwatered. It doesn't seem like it's going to die completely, I just need to be careful I think.

>>597289
Oh yeah, I did my research and I think I have it just right. I transplanted this from my own yard, so I literally dug a core sample of the soil out of the ground and placed it into the pot. So the soil, moss, and wintergreen shrubs are all in-place in the same dirt they were born in. Also they like "dappled light" conditions. On my window sill they're about 40ft from where I took them from the yard. They get mostly direct light mid morning and then indirect light the rest of the day... pretty much like the patch in the yard does.

There is one thing that may be a concern though.... i filled the bottom of my pot with potting soil. That might be making it too wet down there. I wonder if I should replace the soil with gravel or a gravel/soil mixture...

>>597341
Well, your pot hopefully does have a hole on the bottom, and you do discard excess water if it collects in the underbowl, right?

>>597341
Also the accumulation of significant amounts of moss can indeed indicate that it's too wet

>>597345
Yes it drains, I don't usually water it enough for water to drip through but sometimes it does, and yes i don't let it sit in water. the light brown rocky clay-like dirt is where all the roots are anyway, they don't extend below into the potting soil. I just put the potting soil in there as filler tbh.

The moss was already there in the yard along with the wintergreen, it was one little shovel load that included everything intact as-is and i just put it into the pot. i think the moss is pretty much going into winter hibernation right now so i won't know how it fares until spring probably. like the wintergreen, the moss stays green all winter under the snow and in the spring in begins to sprout its new tendrils.

>>597384
Well in that case I'm really out of ideas then, because you don't sound like you'd do certain stupidities such as "watering" it with pure liquid fertiliser instead of diluting it as prescribed beforehand)
It's weird though that your garden soil drains faster than your potting soil, here it is the exact opposite, but that's probably a geological thing (our soil is extremely water-retaining, easily takes 10-20x as long to drain, I know it because I have different plant pots filled with both types of soil)

>>597394
Well I do appreciate the help and brainstorming. And yeah the soil these are growing out of is pretty sandy/gravelly/clay-filled. It's just sitting on top of the potting soil and i can feel the weight difference, like the potting soil is pretty cool and wet and heavy and the top is pretty light. It's probably a good idea to water this with a spray bottle instead of dousing it under the faucet. Also, I haven't used any fertilizers or anything yet. I know I may have to adjust the acidity at some point but since its in its native soil that probably won't be an issue until maybe next spring.

Also another quandry, I'm not sure if I should put it outside for the winter. It might be necessary for it to freeze to properly incubate the seeds or sprouts... in other words the moss might not come to life in spring unless it freezes, possibly the same with the wintergreen

>>597403
Depends on your climate I guess. But if it survives winter easily and is native to your garden then I'd do it.
Also reduces the risk of it catching parasites like white flies or shrooms (like the one that killed my ivy), such parasites are often a problem when having temperate or even Mediterranean/subtropical plants indoors over winter, especially if put warm, often the outside cold does less damage than the inside parasites and lack of light in winter (had I known beforehand that last winter didn't once go below -6°C than I would've left my yuccas outside too - they looked very deep green and healthy before putting them inside a day after Christmas, but severely weakened after just spending 2 and a half months inside the rather dark garage when I put them out again in early March - any frost damage they would've gotten outside had I left them there would've been much less severe - but eh, one can never foretell the weather more than a couple days)

>>597415
yeah new english climate. they'll keep fairly chilly on the windowsill (not hear any heater/radiator), but they perhaps would be happier outside for the winter. i'll do a bit of research on that, I still have plenty of time. winter parasites would certainly suck.

>>596899
What do you mean by "inedible"?

Also, noice pie. Store bought or homemade crust?

>>597684
I just mean they were hard and flavorless and kinda narsty is all. And thanks! Homemade crust only of course ^_^

>>597684
make apple sauce

I grew an avocado from a pit not too long ago and it'd been doing pretty well, but over the past week or so its three leaves have drooped and now they're dead and falling off. It's potted in a cactus/citrus mix, and I watered it whenever the top 1/2 inch of soil dried out. Little guy got full sun on my deck as well.

How'd I kill it?

HEY GUYS IT'S FINALLY TIME TO PLANT GRASS.

>>597937
Because you watered it too much. Fruit trees do not like wet feet.

>>598053
If I stop now will it live, or has whatever fungus it has going on probably killed it off?

>>598078
If it lost all its leaves, it's probably not going to make it. You can always hope though. I dont know a ton about trees, etc but not many plants thrive with soil that moist.

>>597733
>industrial agriculture
>literally destroying the world
good job mate.

http://world.time.com/2012/12/14/what-if-the-worlds-soil-runs-out/

>>598078
My lemon tree lost all its leaves, thought it was dead for sure, but then it started regrowing them, so there is some hope

On a side note, I got this house plant and it's invested with fungus gnats, how do I murder these fucks?

>>598287
sprayed black soap + baking soda mix usually works

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Wintergreen anon here. It actually looks like it's doing really well now. For some reason a couple days ago they looked like they were dying. It seemed like the berry was starting to rot and turn brown but now it's nice and firm and I think it's actually just ripening! In a couple weeks I should have a nice tasty wintergreen berry. If all goes well they'll turn a nice reddish bronze over winter and bear even more burries next year. They seem to be getting the perfect amount of sun in my east-facing window. "dappled" sun as they call it.

To recap my previous posts, this is just a chunk of my yard I dug-up and stuck into a pot just as it was, just so I'd have a plant in the room to liven the place up a bit.

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>>598078
Well it depends. I had a mistreated rosemary that stood pretty much soaked in water for 6 weeks (don't ask why) and at that point it "only" had some yellow needles with brown tip, so not much visible above-ground damage.
However, even after planting it out and keeping it mostly dry, it continued to have more and more needles turning yellow/brown, it took weeks for the "yellowing rate" to go down again, about 2 months until new yellowing of needles more or less stopped, and only now after 3 and a half months, there's some slight signs of recovery (it starts flowering now for some reason in late September, WTF)
So the roots must already have been really fucked up before it showed up on the leaves
Therefore I'm sorry to say that you shouldn't keep your hopes up too high, but you can try of course. You could also un-root it carefully by rinsing the soil from the roots, and check if there's any white parts left (rooten roots will be brown and mushy), only then you have a chance by cutting the rotten parts away and pruning above at the same time - the more roots you cut away, the more you have to prune above ground

>>598338
Well that's nice, maybe it just needed to get used to the new environment, rapid changes in that can have many plants become "touchy" for a while, the same reason you shouldn't expose pot plants directly to the full sun for several hours per day when they come fresh outside the shady winter quarter, but slowly make them getting used to it

>>598430
Yeah it seems to be doing ok now. It requires "moderate" watering but Ive yet to find a good explanation of wtf that is. Being that it's covered in a thick 1"+ mat of moss it's impossible for me to tell if the soil is moist or not. I'm thinking water like once a week tbh

First timer here, I want to get into indoor growing and hydroponics. Is this the place to be?

>>598465
If kept inside (where there are very low relative humidity values in winter compared to the outside), the moss should eventually die

>>598470
It's the place to be, but I suggest you get some experience growing in dirt before moving on to any of the ponics. I went straight to aquaponics and I've practically wasted two seasons because I don't have my system in a greenhouse or otherwise have a method to maintain my water temperature (very important).

>>598534
i don't want the moss to die! i'm probably going to keep it out the side for winter, especially because the moss and winnagreen are both adapted to freeze during winter. i don't want to fuck up their metabolism

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>>598284
You shouldn't talk shit with your mouth full, anon. Besides, that article is a "what if" type scenario, says so right in the title. I'm not sure what 3rd world toilet you hail from, but where we do things, the very livelihoods of the majority of the people depends on that very soil being in good condition, fertile and able to grow stuff year after year. Some crops are grown as a cover crop to prevent erosion and then it is tilled in, no harvest. It's there to replenish nutrients by adding organic matter and then also prevents natural erosion. We take care of our land as if our lives depend on it, because in reality it actually does. I laugh at anyone who wants to say otherwise, because only those who don't know any better and the trolling type would say that shit. If you knew how shit actually works out here you'd say the same.

I guess I'll not post any potato harvest photos then, there's actually a DISinterest going on here. I think I can see you in the truck there, if I zoom in close enough.

Enjoy your french fries and just about everything else you eat, you fat fucking ignorant aids infested bloody anal discharge of a smegma gobbling lesbian troll. Pic related you massive faggot.

>thinking food just grows from people's asses

>>598306
What's black soap? Can't say I've heard of it. where do I get this?

>>598284
>industrial agriculture
>feeding the world since the second world war

Farmer's who own their land have a vested interest in soil health. They pay a lot more attention than you think.

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My veggie garden is pretty much done at this point but I am about a week away from the start of harvest on these pretty ladies.

>pic related, platinum og kush

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>>598897
Blue Dream sativa

about 2 weeks away from harvest on this one

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>>598901
this is another platinum og, but she had some problems throughout the season and looks a bit different from the other one. she seems fairly healthy now, about a week and a half until harvest

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>>598901
another angle on this bish

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>>598904
and another

>>588571
slit the bulby thing, collect the goo

>>598869
>industrial agriculture
>feeding the world
except that it's totally not the case.

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>>598669
The article isn't a "what if", i see you just read the title and nothing else. It's literally what the UN says. Industrial agriculture is destroying the top soil.

You have nothing to teach me about soil health. I've been running a small scale organic farm for almost ten years, so your "in-depth" knowledge of cover crops doesn't impress me.

Oh maybe you're one of those rare industrial farmer who actually cares, but you're on in a million then. I live right in the middle of the agricultural wonderland, and let me tell you that those large scale guys care about their soil and the environment just as long as their corn and soy yields are good enough.

So why don't you go organic then, anon?

A large farm in the next village just went organic two years go.

They have 2500 hectares and they don't grow for CSA and markets as I do, they grow wheat and soy and corn. Now they reduced the area they grow in, use much less pesticides (only organic approved ones) and reduce tillage by a fucking lot too. They're not making any less money. Their soil is in better shape than it was a couple of years ago.

Believe what you want, but the current model of agriculture is just full of shit and can't last.
Go back not even a century ago and people worked small scale with horses and shit and with no pesticides and RoundUp. It's been like that for thousands of years.

And don't go about with the usual "feeding the world" bullshit.
The world doesn't need this, and if you really think it does, well you just need to better educate yourself.
Villages and people in third world countries don't need your soy and corn. A lot of their farmers have become stuck in this big industrial agriculture model and now they're just stuck with that.

I have two full-time employees and we feed 200 families in vegetables from mid-june to mid-october. Not just potatoes, everything they need.

How many families do you feed with your agriculture?

Maybe you shouldn't talk shit with your mouth full, anon.

Beginner here, I was wondering if I could grow corn on an 8 gallons plastic box. Will the soil volume enough for how many plants?

>>598669

Not that guy but your comments are very aggressive and obnoxious. I have completely disregarded what you have said, even if you may be right. Next time I suggest you attempt to engage in courteous discussion.

Good day fine sir.

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Some nice Habaneros on my balcony. Due to constant heatwaves only a few grew in the garden, while Red Rocotos have only begun to form small peppers. During the summer heatwaves all the flowers fell off.

I call this a bad season.

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>>598669
G8 B8 M8 8/8

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It's my first time growing squashes. Are they ready for harvest or should I wait some more? It has gotten quite chilly lately (5°C last night).

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>>600720

A small squash (started growing in august unlike its buddies).

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>>600722

Closeup of a stem.

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wish I could grow milkweed and raise monarchs for a living

So I got some cob, do I need to dry out the corn before germinating or just remove fresh corn from the cob and put on the soil?

>>599211
>It's literally what the UN says
As if anything coming out of the UN is reliable.

>>599211
No till horticulture is significantly better for the soil health than high till. No till is easily achieved thanks to the herbicides and even genetically altered crops. The caveat is that you need a new multi-thousand dollar piece of equipment to practice no till. So yes, industrial agriculture as it has been practiced since the 1950s is hard on the soil, but that doesn't mean it can't be an efficient, sustainable method of growing food.

Side note- what kind of acreage are you working off of?

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>>601006
Don't forget the Mexican Sunflowers.

>>596883
did u sanitize the pot before u used it?

>>601926
Yeah, I've been doing some testing with no-till/permaculture techniques.

It's easier said than done. I mean, make your house garden no till with ground cover and stuff and you probably won't have much problems, but it becomes much more complicated and specific when you go commercial with this.

And I'm growing on 1 hectare (about 2.5 acres).

I kinda wanna grow mint but I hear it's really hard to contain and gets everywhere, is it really that bad?

>>603103
no you get more mint :P put it in a large pot in the ground or just a raised bed or some sort of border that will prevent new shoots from spreading.

>>603103
Put it in a pot or plant it somewhere that you can control it with selective application of herbicides. it doesn't spread very fast though, and it dies back in the winter. It grows like a weed.

>>601963
no. but i don't think anyone sanitized the ground before they started happily growing there either

>>600720
>>600722
>>600724

Nobody knows?

>>598465
We've has peppermint in the same spot of the garden for almost 20 years now and it barely spread anywhere, no active control needed
Same with several spots along waysides I often walk by where lemon balm grows - despite it being said to act weed-like, it hasn't spread much further either in the same period. Maybe depends on climate and soil

>>603227
It's probably a winter squash so there's two ways that I use, thump it and if it sounds hollow it's probably good, but also check it with your nail, if it punctures it it's not ripe, but if you can only dent it or not mark it at all, then it's probably ready.

What heirloom tomato varieties should I grow next year?
Anyone with personal favourites?

I'm certainly going to need a beefsteak now that I'm investing in tomato spirals.

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Hey /out/, first time growing anything ever, hoping I can get some tips growing tomatoes.

It has been surprisingly difficult, i have no idea how much to water them in this heat and it seems like the soil is either bone dry or so wet its causing root rot.

Pic related.
The cherry tomato on the left has been growing extremely slow, it just put out it's first blossoms and might have an issue with white-flies. I dont know why it's growing so slow. ( i got it at about that exact size from walmart early august )

The heirloom in the middle is just starting to do well. I was sure it was going to die because most of the leaves had spots and white fuzz for awhile. It also has tiny red bugs under lots of it's leaves, i think these are spider mites but i have no idea.

And lastly the beefmaster on the right we got because the celebrity in front was dying, probably from overwatering (when i pulled it out of the ground the stem below the ground was completely hollow, like a straw). I noticed the leaves on this guy are droopy, slightly purple and all of the blossoms it has formed die. I got this plant from home depot looking exactly like it did in the picture.

Also: I've sprayed both the cherry and heirloom with pyrithrates and sulphur but it really doesnt seem to help and i worry about it hurting the plant.


thanks

>>603313
Whoops, only now I see that I wanted to quote >>603103

>>603928
Okay,

Left plant may have compacted soil, I've had plants fail to thrive and rot because while the top was dry, the bottom 3/4rths were dense and wet.

You'll come to find some plant issues are minor, while others will ruin your plants. Some seem innocuous until later, which is more problematic.

Purple leaves and blossoms dropping are a sign of nutrient deficiency. It could be: 1, temperatures are too cold for the plant to absorb nutrients. 2, phosphorus deficiency.

Gardening is hard! It took me 3 years before I had a harvest of any sort. Don't give up! Learn from you failures.

>>601932
I have some Mexican sunflower seeds, had no idea they're a monarch flower. I'm so happy

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>>604091
They seem to be an everything flower; bees, birds, and butterflies. Lots of yellow finches and hummingbirds.

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>have chilli seeds
>some from a bunch of Dried Bhut Jolokia peppers I bought
>some a bunch of Trinidad Scorpion Butch T seeds I ordered
>some from some random chilli flakes I got in a microwave meal that I don't know what type they are but had a nice burn to them
>put them in plastic container out in sun
>2 days later so far only one single seed has sprouted
>it's one of the unidentified ones
>place in pot with soil and hope to god it takes off

I haven't grown shit since I was a kid, would love it if I manage to get at least one of each variety growing. Anyone else done this method before? Would like to know how long I keep trying to get most of the rest to grow before realizing they are duds. The Scorpions supposedly take 3-24 days to sprout in soil but I imagine this method is a lot quicker.

>>604927
Maybe peppers aren't receptive to the moist napkin method? I've never liked that method myself as I never had much luck with it.

If you're dead set on germinating them that way, try folding the paper towel over so that it covers the seeds as they may not be getting moist enough. But if it were up to me, I'd just put them in some potting soil and let them do their thing.

>>604927
>2 days later so far only one single seed has sprouted
Peppers take a lot of time to germinate.
Especially the Chinense and the Pubescense varieties can take up to a month.

>>604927
My peppers usually take around 5-12 days to really germinate, but some varieties take much longer as >>605033 said. I put them directly in the soil, with good humidity and nice temperature (around 23°C)
It's very rare I've got a seed which doesn't germinate with this method.

Like >>605030 , with napkin I've rarely got any luck.

>>605030
>>605033
>>605037
I've done a bit of research and the tissue/paper towel method is preferred by a lot of people who grow large quantities and don't want to waste their time watering pots that never produce anything, but then everyone has their different ways I guess. Just thought this method would be slightly quicker than just placing them in soil and hoping for the best. Might try placing another bit of wet paper over them so the sun doesn't burn the crap out of them, two other seeds split open but not sure if the sun killed the little shoots off or what.

>>605234
I would recommend you to let it breathe often if you do so. You put them in the sun for heat? I'm not so sure it's good for them to germinate (light and excessive temperatures)

>>605467
I open the lid for a bit at the end of the day to inspect and spray them, and yeah, they are kept out of direct sunlight now due to really hot temps recently.

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>>600720
>>600722
>>600724

Here is the harvest. Over 110kg of winter squashes: not too shabby considering how small my vegetable garden is.

>>605589
Very nice! I'm jealous, all my winter squash got ass raped by vine borers

>>605589
how long do they stay good for after harvest ?

any special way to store them ?

>>605615
>how long do they stay good for after harvest ?

A few months if you store them like in my pic. A year if you keep the flesh in a freezer.

>>605615
>any special way to store them ?

Store in a cool, dry place. Don't pile them up, make sure they aren't touching each other, don't put them directly on the floor if possible.

>>605618
thanks. defo trying them next year.

any general suggestions for winter food to grow ?

i only do cabbage and leaks so far, plus some frozen stuff like zucchinis ...

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Currently growing morning glories, San pedro, peyote, dream root, Peshawar poppies, basil, cilantro, and chives. Looking to add salvia, lavender, sage, peppermint.

>>605717

gross dude don't smoke salvia....

>>605717
>salvia
Tips fedora, just get fly amanita plugs

>>605733
spores*

>>605726
Why not?
>>605733
Looking to get into shrooming soon.

>>605742
dont do amanita, normal cubes are better

>looking to grow 2-3 potted plants at south-facing windowsill in a temp controlled apartment

ive got about 3'x8'' windowsill to work with and no desire to build a hydroponic system. I want to grow something, what should I grow?

>>606007
Amanita is pretty safe, provided you don't eat 15 in a row.
It's a deliriant though so it's best to have somebody keep an eye on you if you want to trip on it.

>>592718

Yeah I'd love to see it.

>>592718
Would like to see.

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>>592718
yeah I would like to have a peek as well anon

>>601932
Tried growing those this years, hardly any sprouted and none every produced flowers.

Meanwhile, milkweed grows as a weed here.

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Today was shake the crab apple tree day. I'd say easily 400 lbs of the damn things. And that is after having had several people pick over 100 lbs for jam making. I keep hacking branches off the tree and it keeps making more and more apples. All of those get hauled out to my parents cottage for the deer to eat.

>yeah, that's jesus, mom's partial to her graven images

>>607210
I have a wildflower bed, and a decently landscaped koi pond, but I don't think it's as interesting as my garden, and it wasn't ever on me to design or take care of the plantings, also cunt voles have ruined most of the pretty things I've planted.

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>>607210
Thing is that buying flowers and stuff ready is so cheap, almost no one wants to go through time-consuming hassles.
Anyway I'm experimenting a little ATM with cloning mostly ornamentals (for all except one I'm trying with water glass, no hormones), results so far:
>Lantana camara
No sign of root formation yet after 6 weeks, one of the three cuttings dried up
>Cherry plum (like them for their very early flowers and very late leaf drop)
No sign after 6 weeks
>ivy (some variegated cultivar)
Worst experience, no sign after 4 weeks but got infected by some mold (again), tossed them. Put other cuttings directly into the ground where I want them to be, let's see how they'll develop
>tomatoes (trying to get 3 or 4 over winter inside as an admittedly challenging experiment given our lack of light)
Good root formation on most of them after 10-14 days
One of them is planted in a pot for 3 weeks, has already gone from ~20 to ~40cm height, gotta see how and when to prune to keep it contained, or even re-clone
>Privet
Only some white "blobs" a couple mm thick on the submerged stems after 6 weeks
>Common fig
No sign after 3 weeks
>Laurel cherry
Tiny but widespread root formation after 3 weeks
>Real laurel
Nothing yet, as expected after 4 days
>Olive
No sign after 2 weeks
>Rosemary (pic related)
Normally a plant I have trouble with, but nice root on some of them after just 10 days. This was the only one I directly put into soil in small plastic shot glasses (+extra lime)

>>607338
>This was the only one
*These were the only ones, it's 12 in total

>>607210
I'm trying to grow a beautyberry Bush from seeds i gathered. If they sprout I'll post updates

>>607485
Ever tried to make jam out of the berries?

>>607496
fuck that's dope man, I strive to find wild california natives for my garden

>>607496
Yeah that really gives more of a sense of accomplishment than just buying everything all-ready.
However some has to be for me (IIRC you're from Holland so generally very similar climate to me, I'm from the Upper Rhine), with only native plants the whole time between November and February looks even more depressive as fuck, you probably barely get any snow either so it's all grey and brown like here.
So for example it's nice to pull a trachy from seed, but I really don't want to wait 10+ years for it to be the size of a small scrub, in this case I rather buy one that age for €20-30 (of course I'd never buy a giant one they sell in hardware stores for €300-400 though)

>>607496
me too! i-i'm just a beginner with a brown thumb but so far my wint-o-green/moss patch excavated from the yard is staying alive, after about a month i think. hope they survive the winter indoors...
>>588039

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>>607551
Well I'm mostly new to it too and one thing I learned quickly is that things take a looot of patience, especially if growing from seed. Pic related is the bigger of my two "twin" lemons I'm growing from seed. Put in a germinating bag in early May, it was one of 5 which actually sprouted - by around July 10. Since then it has grown to a "miraculous" ~7cm tall despite a very hot and sunny summer for my region, with growth pretty much stopping now that the days are getting very short, so I don't expect any changes until March in the best case, and loss of all leaves/damage by winter parasites when I have to put it indoors soon in the worst case

>>607497
I haven't, but I'm planning on it. All the bushes That are in parks around my area are full of berries and i just think it's gorgeous. My chickens also appreciate them

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Ghost.

>>607672
duuuude awesome. that shit's more dangerous than actual ghosts i reckon

>>598897
>>598901
>>598903
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>>598906

Looks fantastic.

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>>607674
I tried one, very mean.

>>605717

All edibles I see, though half of what's on that list is going to make you quite sick before you feel it.

Morning glories will spread like wildfire in any garden bed you plant them in-- I made a big mistake thinking planting them at the edge of my raised bed would do no harm.

Also, peyote takes like a decade to grow. If you're going to try and graft it onto your san pedro, you might be able to consume it in half that time.

>>607210
Eat those nasturtiums! They're delicious!

Also, I think most gardeners on this board take pride over pretty-- there's nothing like creating food to boost one's pride.

>>607735
I'm going to extract with the morning glories and also baby woodrose. Yah I know it'll take forever and I will try to graft atleast. I'm also gonna grow a ton of Peruvian torches for regular trips.

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DUDE VEGETABLES LMAO

Why aren't you growing plants to look nice?

Anyone able to tell me what exact type of palm pic related is (some sort of Phoenix I assume?) and how cold sensitive they are?
Background: Weather forecast says it'll go down to +2°C Tuesday night (prone to change, maybe it actually could dip slightly below 0 for a short time), but after that a very mild frost-free period might just follow which could easily extend until late December (last year there wasn't any until after Christmas) and I want to keep them (it's 3 of the same type) outside as long as possible

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>>608205
Forgot pic

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>>608206
Close up of the middle, if more detail pics of certain parts are required for classification, I can deliver

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Any of you fucks compost? Pic related is my pile, just started it last week. It's heating up pretty well. Need to buy a pitchfork it's hard as hell to flip this shit with a shovel

>>608714
Got three ca. 1x1x1m containers too that get gradually filled over time, right now, as they've become brim full, I'm just in the process of taking out the lower half of the content (>2 years old as it needs to be) of each of them and mix them with the soil where nutrient-consuming crops will grow next year, the former top half of the biomass will so become the new lower half

>>608763
That long to get compost? I've been reading that with flipping you can get compost in a couple months. It's my first time doing this shit. I got a real nice compost pail for the kitchen that has a charcoal filter to eliminate odors, it's been crucial so far. What do you use for browns? I bought some straw bales but it was kinda pricey

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Any of you grow some sort of spices or some such on the balcony/in an apartment?

I live in a big city and cant possibly have a garden, but I wanted to take care of some plant that has a practical purpose. Feels stupid growing flowers, I dont even like them.

>>609166
Is your balcony south facing?

>>609171
South-east, in Europe. Buildings are kinda close together, but it gets some sun during the day.
I guess right now winter is starting, so this is more something I would do several months from now.

>>608206
looks like a majesty palm

>>607567
lemon from seeds takes a while to grow indoors. also it will develop thorns.

>>609086
you can make 18 day compost google berkly method. my longest compost is a 60 day fungal compost for trees.

>>609086
Well maybe there was some misunderstanding. I have those compost boxes outside, and I'm in a rather cool temperate climate (annual mean 11°C), so warmer environments of course allow for faster rotting
Also what do you mean with "browns"? (not a native English speaker) - are you mixing the kitchen/garden/... wastes with soil to compost them faster? I'm only putting all the "bio-waste" into it as is (mowed lawn, unusuable plant parts like everything above-ground of potato, garden weeds, food leftovers...)
So of course your method won't take as long, 2 years is just a recommended threshold here to make sure most weed seeds and the likes get sterilised
>>609231
Well I had it outside in full sun from germination until today actually (nights are getting too cold now, only 5°C ATM @ 1am which completely halts root activity). Now put it on a south-facing window in the kitchen, hope it still grows a little whenever the sun shines (rarely happens from now until February unfortunately though)

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>>609166
Right now experimenting with various spices on window sill (window faces East-North-East, so getting sun until about 11am) - big parts of those are going to be replanted into the garden as soon as severe frosts are not to be expected any more in March/April
Lemon balm took a few weeks to sprout, but grows slowly and steadily now
Same for my thyme
Seeded Greek oregano 4 days ago and put the pot on the exhaust fan of my PC for extra warmth (~23°C) - has already sprouted!
Parsley and lavender, seeded at the same time, are still about to do so
Also, having your room lights, even if they're LEDs, pointed onto them does apparently help them a little to get over autumn/winter lack of light
Got 5 "general puropse" warm white LEDs lighting up the room, 4 watts each and pointed two at them at my herbs from 3m away, and still that rather weak light does seemingly help - pic related is a 4 hour difference of my thyme while it was completely dark outside and they only got said room light
I kept the camera in place and took those 2 pics just as a test and was actually surprised to see so much visible growth in such a short time

>>608714
I just started my compost pile. I'm in Florida, so the extra heat should speed up the process, but I'm not really in a rush. I just want free fertilizer.

how to grow lettuce and make it the best taste possible

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Picked some hot hot peppers.

Newb here.

I've read its best to transplant after a certain number of weeks, is this true? Or just as a precaution? I live in Central Florida, and I'm basically growing all the beginner shit; tomatoes, peppers, onion, etc. Basically I'm still in my trial-and-error stage, but I'd love good advice from more experienced people.

If it matters; I started them in one of those Jiffy's dome things with the pellets, and they will be moved into my mom's garden (she doesn't have the patience to start the seeds). They have free-roaming chickens though.

>>612115
Nice what varieties? I'm growing jalapeños, peach habanero, Moruga scorpions, and chili pequin. Those fuckers look hot. What's the pickling process like?

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>>612115
I think that's a whole peck anon. I'm pretty sure that's a whole peck.

>>612115
are the bright red ones ghost peppers?

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>>612150
7 Pot Douglah, Ghost, Mustard Habanero, Paper Lantern, and I've got about a dozen more elsewhere. I'm not sure what I'll do with them. Probably just dry them out and string em up.
>>612166
For the most part yes, the orange are ghost too.

>>612140
>Central Florida
Climate is with you then I guess (tropical), so you can pretty much plant/seed/... everything you want at whatever season you want (50° North here so having to take lots of care about right season)
In general, transplant from smaller to bigger pot whenever the smaller one is thoroughly grown-through with roots. You might even want to prune 1/4 to 1/3 of the roots to encourage more "bushy" root growth (but then again, why would you need to grow anything in pots anyway if you have no frosts and summer weather even in January? Plant your shit directly into the garden soil FFS - you should even be able to grow your tomatoes as perennials)
The only downside of tropical climate and lack of winter is probably the fact that damaging insects won't get killed off, and that some plant seeds or bulbs from temperate regions need stratification (i.e. some days to weeks of cold, 0-5°C storage) to germinate, so take care of that

>>612140
Seedlings are weak- too much wind or water can kill them, as can extreme temperatures. They can be outside on a good day, but itf it's bad keep them somewhere safe from the elements (I keep my seedlings under the awning on my house)


Fall/winter are good growing times here in Florida-- summer is misery. When it isn't so hot your plants sizzle up, it drowns them in rain. Use some semblance of seasonality (cold veggies started now or never, melons and summer squash y'know, closer to summer...) and tolerant things like tomatoes are good to grow practically year-round.

The soil on top of my containers turned into hard blocks, was it caused by too much/hot sun or from my irrigation method (I pour water on soil using a cup)?
Also how I let my containers on sun and prevent the surface from drying out too much?

>>613234
soil was compacted while wet maybe

>>613234
>prevent the surface from drying out too much?
mulch

>>587379
Got myself 50 grams of Wormwood (Artemisia Absinthium). Can I chew it, if I don't have access to a tea-making apparatus? What other good herbs for relieving stress and calming down are there?

>>614748
weed

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Would anyone here be able to identify a plant from its sprout? idk what's growing on here (kek) and they look so different from each other!

>>614948
it's grass

>>614959
Really?

newfriend here, looking for something I can grow on my windowsill with minimal effort

suggestions?

>>615453
also live in Scotland, I'm sure climate makes a difference.

Hey /out/, just thought I'd post here to see if any of you guys could offer some advice on my plant.
>>>/an/1981607

>>615453
How much light does the windowsill get? Also what type of plant do you want?

>>615461
a fair amount of light, but as it is late in the year it gets dark around 6pm. That having been said the window is right next to a streetlight if that makes a difference.

>what kind of plant do you want?

Not a herb, and preferably a vegetable over a fruit, but I'd consider fruit too. The more versatile (in terms of dishes I can use it in) the plant in question is the better.

>>615462
If you have enough sunlight I think jalapeno or any sort of pepper like that would do alright. It's also very versatile. Really just depends on which direction your window is facing. Where I live south is the most sunlight. I'm not sure if it's the same for you.

>>615469
jalapeno could definitely be interesting, I'll look into it. thanks anon

>>615469
The sun is always going to be in the southern half of the sky in the Northern Hemisphere. It's the opposite in the Southern Hemisphere.

>>616135
He probably thought about for example the south being blocked by other buildings, trees etc in which case an open west or east side might be better

>>614748
Cannabis.

>>608714
I compost my kitchen scraps, which is usually eggshells, veggies, and a lot of coffee grounds.
I don't even do anything with it though, it's full of worms and I can't be fucked to sort it out, I kind of just let it drip black goo into the soil. Maybe sometime soon I'll rotate my rot pile and put the black murky goodness into my soil.

>>607884
I think veggies are pretty enough. I don't have a wife or anyone who is going to complain about it,

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Hey guys I have been growing some strawberries. They are turning red when there small. Will they get any bigger or do I have to pick them. Also why arn't they getting bit. Here is a pic of one.

>>616393
That's as big as it's going to get, unfortunately. Strawberries get big when they're white and once they start reddening up, they're done expanding. Pretty jelly that you're getting some now, my strawberry harvest was kind of weak this year.

>>616507
Thanks ,yeah im doing aquaponics indoors so still going strong. I have another white strawberrie thats twice its size. looking forward to that :D

Has anyone here had to battle with rust before?
I picked up a Tifblue blueberry bush from the Farmer's Market but after a week, I noticed it started developing rust.
I want to try and knock it out as fast as possible, so what would be the most effective fungicide to use?

>>617940
I've had some luck with neem oil, but your best bet is a liquid copper soap, soap shield from gardens alive has worked for me in the past with fungi

>>618381
This may be a really retarded question, but I have some neem oil (dropper) from TheraNeem Naturals, would that be alright to use?
Going to look into getting Soap Shield as well, but I think I'll stick with the neem oil until the rain passes here.

>>618411
Yeah it should be fine as long as it's just neem oil.

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Babby's first garden.

Just sowed garden peas after loosening up the soil, planted 3 cm deep, covered and very lightly padded over seeds to ensure good contact with soil. Put in three seeds per 3cm hole. Used about 2L of water to water the entire patch. Too much or too little?

I planted on both sides of the netting for each net, so six total rows. The perpendicular rows are between 25-30cm apart, and the seed holes are about 20 cm apart.

The net is a little bit bunchy at the bottom. Should I trim away the extra or does it have no real effect?

>>618652

When it comes to irrigation, just keep it simple and use the finger test.

Before, and after watering, insert your finger about two inches deep into the soil.

When checking after watering, if the soil is consistently moist throughout, then you've watered enough. If it's very saturated, and mucky, then you've watered too much. If the first inch or so is moist and the remainder is dry, then you aren't watering enough.

When checking before irrigating, you're just checking to see if your irrigating often enough. If it's consistently, or even somewhat moist, then it's often enough. Dry? Not often enough. Mucky? Too often.

I work on a farm professionally, and we use the finger test because it's the most reliable method we've found.

Here's a little trick. Water in the evening, and the soil will stay moist through the night, giving plants and seeds plenty of time to absorb water before it is lost to evaporation or gravity.

Also, we use similar plastic netting for our peas. The bunching at the bottom doesn't matter.

Good luck anon.

If you wanted to start a backyard nursery in Southern California, what plants would you grow?

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My first time growing parsnip, just harvested today and it's bigger than my fist. R8 me.

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Rate my pumpkins /out/
I hope they're recognisable

>>621504
Almonds

Does out like trips?

>>622774
YOU'RE A BIG PUMPKIN

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>>614948
Look at how much this bastard has grown, I still don't know what it is

>>623000
You're a big gourd

ftfy

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Just harvested my tomatoes :)

>>623810
what do you do with that many green tomatoes?