What knife does /out/ prefer for camping/hiking/surviving I personally

>>1064035
Great choice. Don't let anyone on here disagree with you. They're all low IQ with minimal experience.

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Great choice op.

The Silky Ono is my go to.

Very very sharp with good weight behind it, serves many, almost all knife/axe needs. Legit cross between a knife and hatchet. Silky makes great stuff.

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>>1064035
>>1064041
>bringing just one tool when you could be bringing all your tools

>>1064049
Very snazzy, very practical.

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>>1064041

Same poster..

I guess the silky ono is more of the "if i only could bring one and travel light" deal. I just like the thing. You can skin, process meat and bones, chop wood, shave tender, filet if very sharp, mince herbs, break ice, take out a small tree if you really need to.

I also carry pic related, good ol winchester bowie.

I hunt a good bit so i like stuff that has the weight to slide through a sternum and bone

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>>1064057

Id fucking slice a black bears head off with my bowie too, so if it gets past the 45acp rounds from my hip...its getting rekt.

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The one I already have.

>>1064035
A lot of low quality bait?

>>1064057
Winchester knives a shit.

>>1064035
mora companion is the best choice, because it looks less intimidating than a combat utility knife or full bowie, it's easier to find if dropped, you are not a stealth commando doing throat slicing you are slicing bread and bacon. also the stainless steel is practical and good enough low care option. the size is adequate for most tasks people tend to underestimate them by pictures when you hold it in your hand it actually feels pretty bulky and sturdy.

>>1064049
>try measuring dick
>circumcise yourself

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Bk-16

Its a dream of a knife, I Think its the perfect outdoors knife.
Idk why anybody around here mentions it.

>>1064035
You can go pretty wrong with a KA-Bar, or any army knife for that matter, as a lot of countries consider them weapons and limit the places where you can carry them. Also at least here in europe, they're way to expensive (five times as much as a Mora, twice as much as a Glock).

Generally, as long as a knife isn't stainless, not to hard (aka doesn't break when struck by a hammer), easily concealable and affordable, I'm fine with it.
for me usually, that means a Mora, but Glock 78 / 81 and some cheap no-name hunting knives work fine as well.
just stay away from stainless steel, as stainless steel can't hold an edge as well as carbon steel (hardness can be the same, but hardness isn't the same as smallest stable edge width) and is usually used for shitty imitation knives which are then sold far to expensive. In general, any knife that has a named carbon steel (as opposed to chinese "dunno what's in there" mild steel) will work just fine.

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>>1064110

Are shit or is the shit?

I honestly didnt pick it out. Its worked real well for me but i sharpen my knives as a past time.

Its like 14in of razor. Feels good man.

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>>1064035
Buck 119 General, just as G.W. Hayduke intended

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>>1064124
>Hunters are now 'stealth commandos'
>Less intimidating
REEEE URBANITES GIT OUT!

>>1064241
I love becker knives. Think the bk16 will be next, that or cold steel srk in 3v steel.

>>1064489
>Hunters
you know wildlife doesn't see the same colors as you right? that's why hunters wear these orange jackets and crap. it's practically deer camo.

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>>1064506
the hell are you jawin about boy?
>you are not a stealth commando doing throat slicing you are slicing bread and bacon
Point is I slice plenty of throats in the woods. Just none of them human.

>>1064241
I was thinking about getting a becker, /k/ said the BK2 which I was looking at was too bulky and heavy. I think they recommended the BK16 too. How did you get the black coating off?

>>1064512
that's exactly my point you don't need military knives in stealth colors to do that. literally what i meant. the throat slicing was not the important part of the argument at all in fact it is completely beside the point.

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>>1064035
walther buk. can manage a great deal of abuse, gets nice sharp, feels good in my hand.

Bark river makes some sexy knives but does anyone have experience with them? I'm about to drop a few hundred on their Michigan Bowie, and I need the opinion of some internet randos

>>1064928
Which steel does that come in? Just looked it up, can recommend dlt trading, one of the first pages that comes up in a search. Just bought a knife through them, was a pleasant experience.

>>1064922
>using a mora to stick a pig
lol at you keyboard "/out/doorsmen"

>>1065525
Are you that old guy? >>1064512

>>1064487
>round handle made from 100 year old plastic recipe
>rat tang, welded aluminum bolsters
>420 taiwan steel

just as G.W. Hayduke intended

>>1064928
I have a Bark River Bushcrafter. The ergonomics of the handle are great, the blade is shit. Bark River insists on having everyhting convexed which is a pain when trying to work wood. Also, it's really hard to sharpen, especially in the field. (it requires a strop). It's a very expensive knife too. Looks beautiful though.

I bought a custom knife for less than I paid for the Bark River. That knife is currently my favourite fixed blade.

>>1065807
Buck's 420HC is actually pretty good. They work some kind of magic in the heat treat or something. It's way better than it should be, but there it is.

Don't believe me? Buy a buck 110 in 420HC and give it a sharpen. You'll be amazed.

Morakniv 2000

>>1065525
it's a big knife

>>1065807
It's full tang.

>>1065865
In relation to yourself.

>>1065865
for you

>>1064049

When you're using as a fork, you...hold it by the blade?

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the only real answer

>>1064035
I've got the navy version. Same thing but with a rubber grip for those soft seaman dick-skinners. Love it, blade profile is legendary.

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this two. the laguiole is for food.

>>1064124
People that feel uncomfortable around a knife because it's in tacticool black but are fine with less threatening looking, but still dangerous knives should get their head checked out desu.

Moras are pretty good knives though for the price.

>>1066265

Is that some kind of Japan puuko on the right?

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you NEED a big blade. in case you want go into serious batoning.

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got this lil boy for 150

>>1066279
yeah, was a gift from my father in law. some famous japanese master made it, i've forgotten his name atm, but it's a really great, very sharp kife.

>>1066267
well i'm slightly uncomfortable around milsurp fags myself you know they got some brain-damage and rambo fantasies and never know when they snap. i used to meet a lot of these types when i was doing airsoft. we had all kinds of people even soldiers. you could tell them from afar because they were chill as fuck and took it all as a game as opposed to the wannabees who took it dead serious and were ready to pull a knife on you if you failed to notice a tiny pellet or whatever else perceived insult. cops were one of the worst wannabees i have to tell you. they not only were deep in their rambo fantasy land they also had control fetish. like one guy decides he is team leader by himself i'm like "fuck off faggot i just want to play here." "nonono you have to do what i say." yeah that's cops and they get this crazed infuriated look on their faces when you ignore what they say and that is the image i associate with these military knives and equipment. fucking wannabes man...

>>1066307
i have to add the soldier dudes were extra fun to hang with as they often had crazy gear, like real working active infra night-vision scope on their gun, real smoke grenades and proper laser distance meter, real gun lights not some led crap.

what they did not bring was fucking big ass glock knives or kabars.

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Opinel knives of several different sizes. I'm a simple fag.

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This has served me well and if it happens to go dull or breaks I can always get a new one for like 2 dollars

Gonna ask here because it seems the thread best suited for.

I need a suggestion for a knife to carry on my fishing bag that fits the following:

>Cheap
>Easy to clean
>Resistant to salt water
>Good edge retention

I've been using a Sanrenmu 7010 but the edge retention on 8cr13MoV is terribe.

>>1066279
>>1066306
his name is takeshi saji, just looked it up.

>>1066321
Opinel is nice as an apple knife or whittling, but I wouldn't consider it for hunting or camping.

>>1066328
Ah yes, the great disposable mentality.

>>1066336
Cudeman MT5
Not even memeing.

>>1066328
i like stuff/wimin more when it looks attractive. never would use a blade like this one.

>>1067100
i would take a girl who religiously smokes cock and really know how and motivated to please me over some qt who don't have a clue what to do with it and not interested in learning.

>>1064514
With some paint remover i bought in homedepot

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>>1066178
In reality I actually just integrated my izula sheath into my belt as the buckle using nothing but gear from the kit the knife came with

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>>1067362
I guess it's not the buckle but the strap holder doodad, but I'd still call it a belt buckle knife

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>>1067362
Before

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>>1067362
Don't let any tip damage fool you, she is very sharp

>>1064035

It varies. I usually go with a bk16 or bk7. Or my were 4 or 6. Some times I'll take my bk9.

>>1065876

A rat tang can be a full tang you dumbass.

>>1067375
Never with a pommel.

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>>1067362
So sexy. And one less thing to grab every morning

>>1064514
It's 1Kompoment Epoxy. Acetone or Nail Polish Remover will take it right off.

>>1066353
>I wouldn't consider it for hunting or camping.
That's because you're stupid.

>>1064035
ive broken a ka bar in the woods. 0/10 would not use in the woods again

>>1067368
watch out lest the wind blows you away skeleton

>>1067393
It is a 2

>>1067393
Fatty

>>1067480
>found the skeleton king

>>1064241
I have the bk-15. Wish i had gotten the 16.

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Very poor, pls be nice

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>>1064506

>>1067541
The leather sheath looks nice anon but that's not a practical knife. If it works for you that's what matters tho.

>pls be nice
I don't know why but every time I read this I actually try to never shit on the poster who wrote it. Maybe my heart isn't entirely made of stone.

>>1064035

Used to carry the same plain KA-BAR fighter/utility and it worked fine.

I switched to a Failkniven F1, though, and I can't see myself going back. I like the 4" blade.

I've been playing around with a Buck Bucklite MAX (USA made), and it's been pretty good; 4" blade, light and cheap. It's not made for the abuse you can give the F1, but for everything other than baton chop suey, it seems solid.

>>1064928
I have a blackjack Bowie. The micarta handle is slick, and it sucks to sharpen but I have never had any edge problems. The sheath sucks too, I made a new one for myself.

buyfags

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>>1064035

I just take one of these, or my necker - depends where i'm going.

Any ~4'' drop point/spear point with a good handle will do.

And I wouldn't recommend the memebar - that's a very poorly designed knife when it comes to actual use that doesn't involve murderstabbing Tojo and friends.

>>1064035
Morakniv Heavy Duty Companion.

Used with a Silky folding saw, it makes wood harvesting very easy. While I don't think fires are super important, I inevitably get roped into helping my companions build one.

>>1066303
Mora HD Companion does that just fine

Mora Companion or 711 for camping.
For backpacking I usually bring my Enzo Necker or a older Frost Mora copy of the Helle Nying (marketed as Sportskniv). I've also got the Eldris, which is great, but I find the blade to be a bit on the short side. I prefer knives with a blade length between 7 and 8.5 cm. Shorter than that and I find the knife loses some versatility.

>>1067375
Full length tang != full tang. Full tang means fu length and full width, i.e. scales you mong

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>>1064082
>Balisongs

>>1066303
>serious batoning.
bait

>>1064035
The KA-BAR will perform admirably. It has nearly ideal size and good quality steel. Ultra-lighters would scoff at it, but don't let them dissuade you, you'll get the job done just fine.

>>1069419
or satire

>>1069419
Beginner here

I was once in a situation where i had burned all the fellwood and it was shit dark, so i needed something to keep the fire going. There were a few giant dead logs left but if you put these in you extinguish flames and have basically a coal furnace, so you need to split it. And i needed the light from the fire. Any advice there (no smartassing, it was fucked up, raining and shitty)?

>>1069892
Batoning was one of the options there

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>>1064035

As someone who abuses the hell out of my tools, I go to the hardware store when they have their "everything you can fit in this bucket is 40% off" sale. I buy a bunch of their cheap chinkshit knives and their chinkshit mini machetes and then if I have room after I buy everything I need I throw in a small axe. For $4 a knife and $15 a machete I get a pretty decent tool and when I inevitably break/lose it I'm not out hardly anything. When I go out I bring the mini machete for chopping/sawing, a chinkshit folder for general knife needs and a second folder just in case. Lately I have been bringing just the one folder and a folding box cutter though because it's super convenient to just pop in a new blade if I need one, and you can find every sort of blade under the sun for it(pic related).

>>1069892
What diameter logs? Sounds like you'd be better off finding something smaller.

I'm sure you could go find a dead fall somewhere. Either way, crosscutting a limb and splitting into the center to make kindling is one way to get dry wood while in the rain. A saw and fixed blade can do things handily.

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>>1064049
can you smoke weed out of that bowl

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Fallkniven F1
It's light, stainless, and capable of doing everything you need it too if you know what you are doing.

>>1066353
I use an opinel 9 (I've processed pigs, rabbits and birds with it), a swiss army knife and a rapala for filleting, never needed anything else.

>>1066307
what

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Love my parang<3

>>1064035
Love my Glock Fieldknife 78.

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>>1064035
KILL!

>>1065525
You mean you can't do it? Maybe you need to practise more?

>>1072110
>>1066343
>>1064082


cringe

>>1066336
Mora Companion in stainless. Gave them as gifts last Christmas. My stepdad and my uncle swear by them for fish and small game.

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Helle Eggen. If a mora is a toyota corola, this thing is a mercedes CLA

>>1073317
What is the 5 cyl diesel Mercedes of knives?

>>1073317
>Merc cla
So, that's a woman's knife?

>>1073334
I... uh...
I was not prepared for this question.

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>>1064035

Two. A Cold Steel Oyabun for a big knife. Basically as a machete/batong/axe combo, and then a Bradford Guardian 3.

>pic related

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is this a good deal?
https://www.amazon.com/KA-BAR-Marine-Fighting-Knife-Serrated/dp/B000BSWE9G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1501743871&sr=8-2&keywords=usmc+kabar

>>1073407
No, because serrated.

>>1073413
Know where I can buy a non serrated, full tang KA BAR?

>>1073420
>full tang KA BAR
you can't

>>1073407
>>1073420
This one is full tang

>>1073425
>>1073425
oops

>>1064928
Bark River makes a nice knife, if you're buying from Gladstone get a vintage Marbles.

>>1073407
Who does the Marine plan to fight innawoods?

>>1073437
Better hope it's not ignorance, for your sake.

>>1073445
Do you mean the Marine plans to enact self-immolation?

>>1073420
1217 is the model number of the leather handled USMC stamped KaBar. Price is $69.

There's also the same model made by Case (model CA334) for $53.

Ontario 498 Marine combat goes for $49

All the same knife. All have been or are currently issued to US Military.

Prices from Amazon

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>>1073462
Nice!

>>1073426
no it's not. it's called stick tang.

>>1073487
some also call it rat tail tang, but usually rat tail is when the tang gets thinner as it progresses in the handle, but same principle.

btw for anyone getting so hung up on full tang should study a bit medieval swords. swords that were made for brutal smashing parrying metal weapons maces and pole arms even. almost all of them have rat tail tang. some of the tangs in swords is actually thinner than most modern knives.

>>1073498
This

>>1073487
Wrong. Stick tang is a short tang with a small threaded rod welded to it.

Full tang means the tang runs all the way through the handle. The width is irrelevant.

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>>1073425

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Mora Bushcraft Forest and old small Fiskars carving axe. The mora is good for food and axe is good for wood.

>>1073663
Two grind Moras are stupid.
Expensive Moras are stupid.
Barrel handle is best.

Best Mora knives:
Classic Laminated
Classic not laminated
780 Triflex. (discontinued)

>>1073672
What works best for you might not work best for everyone else. As for best Mora, I'd have to say the 711. Classic is good too, but I dislike wood handles.

That bushcraft forest handle is nice when handling slimy fish and the blade is good enought for making fillet and firewood. Also it costs 22 euros (26 usd), Not that expensive.

>>1073672
companion is obviously the best value.
i'm not convinced the tapered tip moras are stupid, people rather like them. it's like having two knives in one.

>>1073672
>>1073677

kansbol is best mora. Yes, it's more expensive than companion, but it has a much better handle, sheath, and the secondary grind is actually really good for a general purpose knife.

>>1073522
>Stick tang is a short tang
no stick tang often reaches all the way kabar is stick tang.

>Full tang means the tang runs all the way through the handle. The width is irrelevant.
that's not how everyone else on the planet uses the term "full tang". only your imbecile ass has this delusion.

>>1073988
Kansbol looks good. I've got a 2000 already, so getting the kansbol doesn't make sense for me. I still like my 711 way more than my 2000

>>1064082
>fidget flipper

>>1064035
Just out of curiosity, could a bayonet, such as the typical AK74 bayonet, or an Swiss StG 58 bayonet be a good outdoorsknife?

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>>1074075
Did you purposely ignore the part about the welded, threaded rod or are you just obtuse?
But what that type of tang is called is not even relevant to the discussion.

>that's not how everyone else on the planet uses the term "full tang".
Objectively wrong, sweetie.

You and your 'art of manliness' definitions can fuck right off back to reddet.

The term "full tang" is even used clearly and definitely by the Depot of Supplies, of the USMC in 1942 to describe the Ka-Bar.

Non convinced? It may be because you're mentally incompetent.

Try this definition in pic related from the Grange Wholesale Supply Co, a Canadian Farmer's Co-Op way back in 1893.

>>1074101
>AK Batonet.
Chromed mild steel.
Not hardened, no edge, cannot be sharpened.

>>1074128
Can't you guys just x-ray one to see

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>>1074128
i see you need some education and can't be bothered to google this shit. usmc ka-bar is a stik tang knife.
an example of a full tang knife is the bk2.

>>1074223
altho some purists wouldn't even consider the bk2 full tang see pic... but usually holes and cutouts are accepted by most people.

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>>1074142
why bother? we have plenty of pics off snapped kabars.

>>1074226
now you can clearly see on the pic what makes the kabar a crap knife. it's not the stick tang that shit can be almost indestructible. it's the bad heat treat and awfully negligent neck radius (if it has any) which fails to distribute stress properly.

if the stick tang is left relatively mild and you give it a proper radius where it widens to the blade there is no way in hell you gonna brake the knife in the handle. the blade will be snapped like usually is. but the kabar is a negligent piece of cheap ass mass produced crap.

>>1074230
what makes it worse some of the kabars look like they have been welded together from two pieces of different steel. i mean that's just nasty. it has been done historically on swords, but not sure if it's ever a good idea on a beater knife.

>>1074230
>inb4 B-but Marine fighting utensil, made in Murica

>>1074223
That's wrong though, there are two main categories of tangs, full and partial.

Full tangs run the full length of the handle and partial tangs which will only extend part way into the handle. Some partial tangs can be visible from the sides and full tangs can be completely hidden.

Youtubers popularized the idea that a tang must be visible from the sides in order to be a full tang, probably because they didn't know enough about the wide variety of tang types

>>1074234
It's not been welded together dumbass. The different color is because the epoxy coating on the blade has been removed.

Every post you make you prove how much of an idiot you are.

>>1074317
just google it mang type "stick tang vs full tang" into google image search you will not find a single pic that says what you are saying and will find 20 or more on the first page that says what i'm saying.

then of course you will pretend it never happened and keep on playing a retard.

hidden tang knives and full tang knives are the two main category. a stick tang is a hidden tang not a full tang. the usmc kabar is a stick tang not a full tang. it's that simple.

>>1074349
who was talking about color? look up images of kabars, you will see it, the steel on some rusts very differently and you can see where the welding was done. not all some looks like a single piece i think the technology and materials used changed a lot over the decades. but some of them definitely look welded. if you look better at the pic i posted you will see what i'm talking about.

>>1064035
My work knife is unironicaly a USMC KBar.
t. not Marine Corps.

>>1066303
>Cutting bait
That didn't take long

>>1074420
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_(tools)

If you find references to tangs made before roughly 2000 they will agree with me

>>1074502
>poting a source that contradicts your claims nice and clean
i have nothing more to say

>>1074597
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_(tools)

>A full tang extends the full length of the grip-portion of a handle, versus a partial tang which does not. A full tang may or may not be as wide as the handle itself, but will still run the full length of the handle.

>>1074317 (You)
>there are two main categories of tangs, full and partial.

>Full tangs run the full length of the handle and partial tangs which will only extend part way into the handle. Some partial tangs can be visible from the sides and full tangs can be completely hidden.

Reading comprehension? Full profile tangs aren't the only type of full tang.

Further reading

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/tang-construction.970147/

>In another thread, there is some discussion regarding tang construction, specifically in regard to the 124 Frontiersman. As a result of that discussion, and to further educate myself on this matter, I have done some reading at the library as well as to speak with a knife maker, well known to most Buckaroos. It appears obvious to me that most of the confusion is simply a result of misunderstanding in the definition of terms that are being used

>As regards to length, a Full Tang describes a tang which extends the full length of the grip-portion of the handle, as opposed to a Partial Tang which does not

>It seems to me that the greatest confusion is between Full and Hidden Tangs. And I can certainly understand that confusion since a Hidden Tang has actually been reduced in either width, thickness, or both, and is no longer visible (i.e., full) on the exterior of the knife itself. But remember, by definition, Full Tang refers only to the length of the tang. Hidden Tangs, on the other hand, may be either full or partial, based upon their length, however, their tangs are no longer visible, thus giving rise to the term,

>>1074629
now read about the stick tang which is a type of hidden tang not full tang right there and which is the usmc kabars tang. sure the stick tang is a full length hidden tang but not the same as a full tang.

but like i said what makes the kabar a crap knife is not the stick tang. actually the tang going through all the way makes no difference at all it will mostly break at the neck or you brake the blade. breaking the end of a tang almost never happens. so it's more about the way a knife is assembled than strength. i dare say a rat tang is not any weaker than a stick tang practically. most people don't even make a distinction and call usmc kabar a rat tang.

>>1074629
dude everyone and their mother uses full tang without qualifiers as full profile tang winch is a pretty distinct construction where scales are bolted or screwed on the side and the blade is visible on the side all around.

a full length tang is not a full tang if it's a hidden tang. it's not hard to understand proper terminology.

>>1074666
>>1074667

>coping mechanism

>>1074667
It's both a hidding tang and a full tang. Who gives a shit anyway.

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Just got this in the mail, cant wait to see how it does

>>1074713
it's a full length hidden tang of the type called stick tang.
again full tang is a full profile tang can not be a hidden tang.
it's not like full tangs are stronger than stick or rat tail tangs inherently or anything and are more practical when it comes to cold weather or just grip. i actually don't fucking buy into the full tang meme it means nothing except that the handle was made a certain way and the knife is probably balanced or handle heavy if you like, and most likely made by stock removal.

the notion that full tang knives are inherently stronger is complete falsehood. in fact a good rat tail tang knife is every bit as strong as a full tang. the problem with the usmc kabar is that it's crap made absolutely fucking wrong and it will snap like a dry twig because of this.

>>1074883
>talks out of his ass and gets called out
>keeps the argument going by himself in an attempt to save face

Fucking pathetic. Just stop embarrassing yourself.

>>1064035
Knives of Alaska boar hunter is my general purpose knife. Kabars are good too, but the Kabar factory edge is garbage. Find somebody who knows how to use a belt sander, and you'll be in business.

>>1074903
You don't need a belt sander.

I did mine with 36 grit wetndry and a mousepad. Could be done with a file too

Big improvement on sharpness. Completely changed what you can do with the knife.

I didn't convex the whole bevel though. Just the edge.

You have to use automotive grade paper. The woodworking kind is too rigid.

>>1074900
you get hung op on your stupid ass idea that somehow the terminology every fucking body uses is incorrect (but no it's still a stick tang clearly no matter what you hallucinate)

and completely ignore the main point of my argument which is: the tang of the kabar is crap it's cheaply made crap that is highly susceptible to braking and stress shearing as ample evidence supports.

maybe not all of them will break maybe it's just due to their abysmal quality control and shitty production method that it happens to some, but still presenting the usmc kabar as a sturdy reliable knife is an outright falsehood.

the kabar is crap and should never be recommended as anything but a throwaway military utility knife for soldiers.

>>1074968
Answer honestly.
Have you ever been suspected of having autism?

Your mental breakdown worsens with each post.

First you mistake anecdotal evidence for proof.

Then you rationalize a paragraph in plain English to mean something completely opposite.

Later you blatantly make things up to support your claims.
The question is did you do it on purpose or is it a direct symptom?

This whole little theatre piece of yours was just a manifestation of your illness.
Why are you so obsessed with the Ka-Bar?

What next?
You're going to end up like the batteny chop autist if you don't stop.

>>1073498
Don't give a fuck. You cannot tell me a true full tang and a stick tang are of equal strength.

Any company that wants to give me a stick tang can take my cock.

>B-b-b-but a thin post made of metal is just as strong! Because I'm a fucking idiot!

Yes. Yes I know.

>>1075070
Confirmed for poser

>>1064061
I'd pay good money to see you fight a 600 pound black bear with a knife. You are nothing more than a pussy with a gun in his hands.

>>1074223
you can go tang
but you never go full tang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo

>>1072110
blade looks good for chopping. but the hilt looks like a pain in the hand. also: I guess the sheath must be bulky, side-opening only.

>>1064506
The orange jackets are so other hunters don't accidentally shoot you.

>>1075096
>My katanas are all rat-tail tang, poser
>Nuthin' personal, kid

>>1074978
>Why are you so obsessed with the Ka-Bar?
i'm not. it's just a crap knife with awful design and quality control and careless mass-produced chinkshit manufacture people try to sell as sturdy and reliable. it's not. that's all. and it's not a full tang knife it's a stick tang which is the least of it's problems.
>What next?
i'm gonna continue educate all that needs about tangs and the utter falsehoods and misinformation spewed about them.

>>1075149
yes but almost no hunter would wear that color and be comfortable with it if it was not basically invisible to deer.

>>1075113
bears get out

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>>1074883
>again full tang is a full profile tang can not be a hidden tang

Witness, a hidden full profile tang

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>>1074883
>>1076365

esee 6 obviously

>>1066304

Dude your THUMB!!

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>>1076372
Troof.

>>1067773
What's third from the right?

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>>1075431
So what you are telling me is that knives like pic related are the only types of full tang knives to exist and as long as you can see metal all the way around the handle it is a "true" full tang?

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>>1075431
>>1077528

>>1064035
The OKC marine combat knife which is basically the same thing.

>>1066265
thats not a laguiole

>>1076365
But I can see it.

If you carry anything bigger or more advanced than a Mora Companion for general use then you need to stop pretending you're Rambo, and if you own a "tactical knife" then you need to check yourself into the nearest mental ward

>>1077528
>as long as you can see metal all the way around the handle it is a "true" full tang?
only if it's the same piece of metal as the blade, altho some consider skeletonized tang not true full tang.

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>>1077785
but how are i batton then.

>>1067368
Jesus Christ, is that belt 6 inches wide.
>>1067393
Ironically the skeleton has a skeleton knife.

>>1064035
that one. but without the blood pocket

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>>1067368

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>>1064241
ayyy

>>1064927
shit looks like a flashlight m8

What knife sharpener do you people use?

>>1078660
Dc4 and a double sided pocket strop in the field. Wetterlings axe stone for my axes.
Cheapo hardwarestore ceramic stones at home, and a homemade strop.
Would like some fancy ass japanese stones, but can't justify the price, and I do fine with what I have anyway

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>>1067362
>>1067368
>>1067370
>>1067383

my izula serves me as an edc belt knife since 2014

its edge holding is mediocre at best, but i used the shit out of it.
its great for food processing, once you get used to the blade thickness, easy to clean, lightweight and durable.

sadly i no longer take it /out/ because the grip isnt great for wood work, sure you can fix that with paracord, but then its hard to keep clean for food processing.

now i prefer my izula 2 or my uncoated esee 3 as out knife.

however, my izula still rides my belt every single day at job, church and campus.

>>1076367
it was a hidden tang before but now it's a full tang

>>1078714
Calling this grasping at straws is an insult to the integrity of straws

Should I get a Schrade Schr52 or a Condor Hudson Bay?

>>1078813
Condor all the way. Schrade are pretty inconsistent with their heat treat afaik.


Just get a mora and a hatchet desu

>>1078825
I already have a smaller knife and a hatchet but sometimes I'd like to have a big noif.
Thanks for replying what do you think about the Becker BK7?

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>>1078831
Seems decent. Not hating on big knives, I've got a bigass Stromeng saami-knife, pic related, myself (some people insist on calling these leukus), but I rarely ever use it. It's fun when I do though.

>>1078833
Damn a lapplander on steroids! Cool knive buddy what steel is it?

>>1078901
Some kind of springsteel. Apparently they stockpiled leafsprings from German army trucks after ww2, and used those for a long time. Don't think they use that still though. They're kinda secretive about what the exact steel is, but it's really hard and tough that's for sure.

>>1078905
Cool! Over here they're 130ish €. You're really tempting me with this you know?

>>1078908
You won't regret it! Just remember that this is a do-all knife, so it won't excell at any particular task. Except for butchering reindeer. It's also fairly thin stock for a big knife, so it's not the best at splitting wood if you're a battony guy (I'm not).

>>1078911
Also, take care of the handle. Having the wood shrink and brass parts come loose is no fun.

>>1064035
THIS https://youtu.be/gLVQ8Ptt54E
real+cool

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>>1066353
>I wouldn't consider it for hunting or camping.

what?? the no. 8 is the ideal camping knife.

dependable and sharp-- but cheap enough that if you misplace it or ruin it that you dont really care that much. its the only camping knife i use.

>>1078918
>not knowing no. 9 is the real shit

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>26.5cm (10.5") Saami knife blade
Should I do it guys? I've got a little experience fitting handles to scandi-blades, but I've never done anything this big.

>>1078919
>sacrificing those grams.

do you even understand how much more energy goo i can carry since i use the 8?

>>1078925
>Should I do it guys
What question is that? The answer is unequivocally fuck yes.

Good luck with your leuku, post a picture when it's done.

>>1078925
>but I've never done anything this big.

Its OK, just go nice and slow

>>1078930
>What question is that?
But I'm going to hate myself if I fuck it up!

>>1078927
>sacrificing that edge

Do You know how much calories I save by having to do fewer cut motions? It's like you don't even want to survive.

>>1078948
>scaraficing the confidence that comes with having a smaller carbon footprint

do you even realize how much water and wood you are wasting by going up to a 9. do you hate the earth you fucking earth hater?

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>>1078964
I'm dying.

>>1078934
>But I'm going to hate myself if I fuck it up!
How is that a problem? The solution is don't fuck up!

>be britbong
>gonna get a no. 8
>mud and rain everywhere because it's England
Is it worth getting the carbon steel because I'm seriously leaning towards the no maintenance selling point. Fuck having to oil my knife that's disgusting because I touch my knife.

>>1066304
Are you shrek?

>>1072115
same. if you want one knife for many jobs, opt for it.

>>1074101
The stg58 bayonet is a dagger, it'll work but not any better than another dagger style knife

>>1079062
I have the vastly superior no 9 in stainless and its a great knife. I bought a carbon one afterwards just for shits and giggles but I like the stainless better because of ease of maintenance.

>>1069892
break them in a y shaped tree using it as a lever point. That's what I do usually

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>>1064035
Vic Bantam
I only need to make sandwiches.

Otherwise Mora Robust.

>>1076373
>>1079432
he obviously got his big toe attached as a thumb after losing his thumb.

>>1064082
I have one too, fun to play with, but.. dude, would not use one as a main /out/ knife, way too fragile

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>>1076373
>>1079432
>>1079720

>>1064124
>mora companion is the best choice, because it looks less intimidating

People that are scared of knives to the point they would get you into trouble will be almost uniformly scared of them.
I've heard guys talking about getting ratted on because someone saw them with a filet knife WHEN THEY WERE FISHING.

You can see the bottom of the tang on a USMC. If you hammered stuff with the bottom would that be bad for the knife? I mean, could the stress go up the blade and fuck with the weld of the tang, or something?

>>1064082

>Am an ER nurse
>Have quite literally lost count of how many people's hands I've stitched up because of these retarded meme-tier toys

Really though. You're not a fucking ninja so stop pretending.

>>1077530
looks like THE most uncomfortable handle ever.

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Just bought this for $8usd. Wasted money probably

>>1083360
Looks pretty shitty, but who knows. Report back with your findings.

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Depends what I'm doing, I've got an Ontario SP1 for a bigger tool that I like to take back country but if I'm just out for a daytrip or whatever I've got one of those chode moras like pic related

>>1077378
LT Wright Coyote

>>1083360
Not a waste of money, an opportunity.

Learn to sharpen with it but don't mess with sharpening serrations till you know more about what's up, even relatively dull serrations do what they are meant to do.

>>1065847
Gotta agree, my 112 is absurdly low maintenance. Not as easy to sharpen as carbon and takes longer but stays pretty sharp for ages

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I have no idea if this makes me look like an idiot or not but all I have is this rusty nail from Colorado. I didn't even find it in the woods, I just took it from someones yard.

>>1083565
lol

i got a $4 knife from walmart and it's pretty solid. I don't understand why anyone would spend $50+ on a knife. There is no application it needs to do to be able to break it. You're just being too rough with it.

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>>1084051
>I don't understand why anyone would spend $50+ on a knife.
why do people buy (expensive) cars

>>1084099

Up to a certain point you'll be spending a pile of money for tiny improvements in performance, and really it's up to you whether it's worth it or not. For me, I get the most bang for the buck at the sub $100 level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnlTxLxbaQ8

>>1084117
yap. but never buy a les stroud knife. he is an uptight a$$hole

>>1084126
And his knife designs are mostly shit

>>1084117
those guys are fucking faggots

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Boom. Love it

>>1084301
That must be great for chopping small carrots, but what else do you use it while /out?

>>1084329
Well, chopping small carrots is literally 50% of being /out/ so that's pretty good

>>1084329
You can serve slices of pies and it has an in-built stick snapper.

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>>1084339
>serve slices of pies

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>>1084301
It'll fill the role of skinner, cleaver and do the work of a small hatchet with no problem. Being 1/4 thick you can baton the everlovin' shit out of it without fear. I've hammered mine through mesquite and bone and it's never once damaged the edge. I used it and my other knives and axe and saw to make a hand carved nativity set for my mom last Xmas from mesquite.

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>>1084185

They do stupid shit with knives I couldn't afford to break...It's a huge part of the reason I watch their stuff, and they don't take themselves all super serious, like some dunkin' donut weekend warriors do. (sorry Nuttin', still love ya' , no homo.)

It's knifeporn.

>>1066265

Truly awful taste in blades, I think we would all prefer if you never posted again.

>>1067773
Whats the far right one?
I need a new pocket knife for daily stuff

>>1084397
Fuck yourself, one on the right looks good

>>1084348
This nigga just lays the knife on the pie Sideways and presses down

>>1084412
>>1084397
Yeah. The Right one looks good, fuck yourself jellyman

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Haven't you guys ever seen a pie server?

>>1084759
I don't understand

>>1084989
Mhm I used to own one but my friend stole it :3

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>>1084989
You know if it was full tang and had a partially serrated edge I'd actually want one for innawoods stuff. It could totally be used as an axe, knoife, poop shovel and ultimate bear defense weapon. Yeeeaaaahhhh.

>>1085012
not to mention batonning pies

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>>1084405

Creat Eastern Cutlery #18 Coyote. It's >1 ounce, and really small (about the size o a candiru when open).

I usually carry a slightly larger folder (pic related - GEC #15 Beer Scout)

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=beRI6uG6JM4

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I have this meme knife with a survival kit in the handle. Chinese stainless, barely holds an edge. Found it in the desert in the sheath so yeah

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>>1085454

Ooooh, stag handles. Pretty.

I did lol and cringe at the same time when after he complained about the pins not being flush and gunk collecting there, he shoved the gunked up cleaver into the sheath. *lolwhat*

Also chuckled when he said the Cub bear was too sharp, yeah I keep my finger on the spine near the tip to keep it from going through stuff too easily and to control the depth, 'cause without the finger it just goes right through.

>>1073317
Its just an overpriced mora lmao

How the fuck are you supposed to sharpen at specific angles unless you become some 10,000 hour master?

I just checked Varusteleka's puukko out. It has a 23 degree angle.

>>1085988
Color the bevel with a sharpie. Adjust your angles until you remove all the sharpie in one stroke. Keep using that angle. It's that easy. And it gets even easier with more practice. At some point you'll develop a feel for when your angle is correct.

As for puukos (with a 0 degree scandi), just lay the bevel flat on the stone.

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>>1085991
Two ways,

a jig- super consistent pro results.

or learning your angles on a stone with a throwaway knife, practice, practice, practice.

Ideally you want to be able to do both.

Get them sharp then strop them and keep them stropped.


lansky -->
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a0Lc4wyFQs

>>1085991
>>1086016
Thanks for the input.

I have a Kabar USMC. A few years old but this is the more recent type with the fuller that touches the bevel.

This is a saber ground knife rather than a scandi ground knife, right? I'm pretty sure I see the secondary bevel indicating saber but with the powder coating I want to make sure.

>>1086103
Kabar is either hollow ground or saber ground. It's been quite a while since I saw one in person, and I can't be bothered to do the research. If you do the sharpie-trick I described you should only color, and sharpen, the secondary bevel.

Also, no problem buddy.

The other Anons advice about getting a practice knife is really good as well.

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vic tinker. don't like to get too fancy. just about everything i need in here. actually used the can opener so many times during bug-outs that ive had to sharpen it.

>>1087187
The can opener is great, for the last 12 years the only can opener I've used is my Swiss Army Knife

Shame you don't have the saw †bh, it makes quick work of any small diameter wood, but to each their own.

How much of a coating of compound do you want to have on a strop? I'm talking the wax stuff that comes in a stick.

The black went on okayish but the white doesn't want to go on very well. It looks kind of marbled, maybe still more bare looking leather than white.

>>1087200
Warm up the leather. Turn on the stove top on it's lowest setting and warm up the leather until it's almost too hot to touch. This will open the pores in the leather and let the compound go on much better.

>>1087200

if you go by feel or by the amount of swipes of polish that you put on it's the same for both, the colored ones just show up better on the leather, but they all get grey eventually from the steel taken off.

>>1087203
Don't put it directly on the stove of course, just keep moving it back and forth 2-3 inches over the stove top.

>>1087207
toaster oven FTW.

>>1087209
Yeah if you've got one, it's good.

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>>1064035
Jeff White bush knife, though I usually bring a stainless steel knife kayak camping

>>1064487
I was thinking of getting one of these as my main knife.
Do you actually own one and how satisfied with it are you?

>>1075149
>>1075433
For fucks sake, you are both correct

Why is this board so dam argumentative?
You all are so toxic, it's all about who's more right, I don't even enjoy posting here anymore.

>>1064035
how are the carving charracteristics of the KA-BAR? i want one for aesthetics and collection but if it is not a nice knife to use, why bother

>>1087235
best itt

>>1064225
Max par!

>>1087365
The guard is going to stop you choking up on the knife. A popular mod is to saw it off on that side. Ka-bar even make a "Dog's Head" model that has that already done.
I'm not a handy, bushcrafty sort of guy but my take on the USMC is it's aesthetic, historically interesting, can do a bit of everything but is surpassed in every way by other knives.

>>1087365
It's a knife designed for fighting, so it's going to be mediocre at best.

>>1087235

I really like the classic blade shape that's well shaped for food prep and butchering tasks that lets you have the full length of the blade and the rounded handle is perfect. It can process wood if that's needed. It's a solid design; it has what I want in a camp knife. The reason I like this knife more than other knives with a similar shape, is that this knife has no ricasso, I fucking hate ricassos, but that's just my hang-up. If this knife came in a supersteel, I'd have a nerdgasm.

>>1064035
I just use a multitool with a smooth ~2.5 inch blade and a 1.5 inch serrated blade.

I don't want some huge bulky knife with me.

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Bought pic related for work then bought another one for my pack.

It's a good knife for $20 and I've beaten the hell out of the one at work.

>>1087365

There are three things that will determine how well a knife will carve, your skill, how sharp the knife is and its size. You can carve with your KA-BAR, it'll just take time to learn how to use a larger knife to carve with and to sharpen it properly and keep it sharp. Carve some trys-ticks and practice making notches and mortise and tenon joints. There are notches that are easier to make with a larger knife and even faster if you baton them. Don't let anybody tell you that you can't do it, you can, and once you learn your basics carving and whittling you'll be able to carve with a rusty tuna can lid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS_IP18_nQ8

I do this with all my knives to get a feel for them and for just for the hell of it. It's fun.

>>1087799
well multitools have the worst weight penalty to blade usefulness ratio out of all forms of cutting edge.

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Should I get the CRKT hammond cruiser (pic related?) It would be for a little bit of outdoors but more just edc and to have, the only other knife I have is the kershaw suffle 2. Would you recommend normal or partially serrated?

>>1088022
What do you plan to do with it?

Buy whatever knife you want, but know that functionslly it won't do more nor perform better than, say, a 7 dollar Mora.

If you buy it for aesthetic reasons, then it is up to your preferences, and no-one elses.

>>1088022

I'm not a fan of serrations, other than that it looks ok. Serrations are good for ripping through fibrous material but take more force to use vs a sharp edge that will slice or push cut. Another thing to consider is that they are a bit more involved to maintain and sharpen needing a rounded file that will fit the serrations and each one would have to be sharpened individually, just like a saw. For and EDC knife, opening packages, occasional rope cutting and box opening, and slicing fruit, it'll do.

>>1088022
Get a low end spyderco, most spyderco knives have excellent edge geometry so they are good for random light duty while /out/

>>1087798
>I fucking hate ricassos

knife noob here. had my first go on some water stones the other night sharpening a crkt minimalist wharncliffe.
i didn't know what a ricasso was but i know it kinda got in my way. it must have got in their way at the factory too because the base of the cutting edge is different to the rest.

>>1088014
It has way more than just a blade though and folds up neatly.

Any recommendations on fixed blades? I a
m seeing a lot of Ka-Bar hate.

>>1088475
Becker short drop point or ESEE 3 or similar can do a lot for you without serious drawbacks.

It's about getting a knife that is good for what you want to do with it and has nothing getting in the way of what you want to do with it.

>>1088475
What exactly do you want it for?

The cheap Mora are just about the best starter blades around and they are fine for the majority of /out/ needs

>>1088706
I really like the ESEE 4. Looking for a knife that would be a great a fishing knife; needs to be sharp.

>>1088709
>great a fishing knife
that would be a thin kitchen knife with plastic handle

>>1088745
well to be more precise a thin stainless kitchen knife with molded plastic handle

>>1088709
Look at the Becker bk24

D2 steel holds an edge very well and will perform around water better than 1095 carbon

The Mora would still work well but the grind isn't the best for slicing

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>>1088746

>>1088749
BK24 was limited edition it doesn't look like they'll be easy to come by today.

Are Spyderco sharpmakers worth the money? They're pretty expensive compared to Lansky turn box sharpeners and what I have heard is the Spyderco ones are mostly getting by on a reputation for a level of quality that the sharpener hasn't actually had in a long time.

I think the complaint is the new rods are soft and wear easily? Hard to recall.

>>1088989
They can be worth the money but you can still get very good results using a coarse stone to reprofile an edge then finishing it and touching it up on any inexpensive crock sticks

The formula for the ceramics on the spyderco hasn't changed as far as I know but even on a softer ceramic rod it would take an incredible amount of use to wear it down with a piece of steel, especially at the low pressure you use on crocksticks

Real men uses machete.

I got a rust eraser in the mail, today. I had a go at getting some rust spots off of my Skrama.
The rust spots are still there but now the finish where I rubbed looks different to the rest.

>>1076398
>gerber fire steel
garbage
>gerber multitool
puke
>Esee 6
too large for a decent camp knife, too small for a decent chopper
>pull through sharpener
disaster

your gear is second rate, like somebody that just picked up whatever looked cool at the strore

Got a lanksy turnbox today. I had a go at sharpening my USMC with it. Can't see the edge and it shaves pretty well, I guess that's good enough for government work.

What are some ways to tell if something is autistically sharp?

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Is this knife meme tier?
I need something good and cheap if this is a meme i dunno what to get for like under 50

>>1090911
not at all its a great knife.

what cheapie knife should i get out of these two?

https://www.amazon.ca/Sanrenmu-Tactical-Folding-Knife-12C27/dp/B06XZVBQTC/ref=pd_sim_200_1?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=XE6MJE1D45MMDGSA7TFW

or

https://www.amazon.ca/Ganzo-Tactical-Folding-Handle-Carbon/dp/B01LXUZ8HE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504115886&sr=8-1&keywords=ganzo

>>1091441

The Sanrenmu is nicer looking IMO and looks like it has a slightly thinner blade that'll slice and cut better.