#178 - "No thots in the OP" edition Information:

>>1062242
Wtf is a Thot?

>>1062246
>Acronym: "That ho over there"
No pretty clickbait girls to help keep the thread bumped.

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>>1062242
I'm about to start #179 because of that gross pic you posted

>tfw actually hook a nice ~3lb bass which is rare from shore in July, wrestle him in on this lighter combo thru the weeds, and he jumps off once I'm about to land it
At least we back /dinkpostin/

>>1062242

Now that's an OP. A wells catfish is on my bucket list.

Anyone have any experience with the Daiwa Regal BRI? I'll mostly be targeting catfish in the 10 to 30 pound range with the occasional trip to the coast for redfish and black drum.

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How do I kill a wells catfish aka silure glanes? I'm going fishing tomorrow and I want some fish fry, not to mention they are invasive bastards that no one around here fish's for.

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what do you think of meiho?

>>1062254
>all his gear
>Bepis still doesn't use a net

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>>1062276
Slip sinker rig with cut bait.

>gullet hook a mooneye
>switch to a bigger hook to prevent it
>gullet hook a bigger mooneye
what the f*ck...

>>1062291
>kill
Could I run it over with my car?

>>1062295
just give it a little tap with a rock or knife

>>1062295
You could stab it in the head like Bepis does with his snakeheads

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This guy was wreaking havoc on anything that came by in this 1 foot-shallow part of the river. I got pretty close to him and saw him gobble up my lil shad plastic on a jig after missing it first cast.

>>1062298
>>1062297
What about a giant fucking hammer then slit its gills? Also I live in a walled in city, how should I take this back to my apartment? The city is having an arts festival at the moment and no cars are allowed within the walls.

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>>1062300
I finally came up to this very shady part of the river and started catching smallies. Plenty of commotion on the top water this whole shady stretch. I think the smallies consider shady stretches like a feeding ground, no matter what depth it is, was in like 2 feet of water.

They all ate the zoom u-tail. And this was the best one.

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>>1062302
That looks more like a rock bass if anything.

>>1062309

That's definitely a SMB, retard.

>>1062309
no it doesn't wtf

definitely a smallie

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>>1062309
This is how the Rock bass look around here. Gets easy when you catch plenty at different sizes. Ive never gotten one as big too.

Smallies are always "bass" shaped while rock bass retain that sunnie shape.

>>1062301
>please solve all my problems for me
Figure it out for yourself.

>>1062301
just shoot it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODIyLWq_dfw

>today

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>>1062276
Find a rock, bash it on the dome to knock it out, then slit the gills with a knoife.

Or just jam the knoife into the brain.

>>1062286
>using a net for dink bass from shore

>>1062281
We use Plano around here boi

Just googled it, they look straight. Shimano has some cool tackle storage stuff but like most Shimano stuff, it costs about twice what the same thing from a competitor costs.

>>1062319
pepsidink BTFO

>>1062312
>>1062311
>>1062310
Stfu it's a stripper.

>>1062324
Bowfin*

>>1062330
clearly a muskie

>>1062330
>>1062335
Large Mouth Bluegill

>>1062267
solid reel esp for the price, from what i hear. drag is pretty quiet but everyone puts up bells on their shit anyway.

where you planning on ordering from? i might spend an extra $8 and support a local shop here vs amazon

>>1062353

I'm more concerned about the reliability of the bait clicker feature more than anything as I do a lot of drift fishing in my kayak.

Using my Amazon credit.

I buy all the rest of my gear (mostly terminal tackle) from an old man 5 minutes down the road who orders stuff wholesale and has like a mini-garage sale every weekend with a shitload of selection that's half the price of anything I see in stores or online.

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Cabelas damn near fucked up my order but when I called them they fixed it immediately and surprised me with a refund equal to that of my veteran's discount. Now my two St. Croix Imperials are on their way.

>feelsgood

Going to fish from around 8-9:30 tomorrow morning. What should I use? Is that early enough for some top water action on a Rebel Pop-R?

>>1062387
It's never too late as long as you're fishing somewhere with shade. High noon and smallies were surfacing today on the river.

It's not a means of too late but rather "too sunny"

>>1062387

Sunrise is and sunset are best for topwater as the darkness forces the fish to just strike the lure on the off chance that it's food rather than be able to scrutinize it.

>>1062390
>>1062392
Alright in that case I'll just toss a square bill. I feel like that's too early in the morning to use soft plastics since it isn't hot enough for them to get lethargic.

What do ringed bodies on plastics do?

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The dinks in my area love to go after this thing. I've caught several fish on them including a literal THREE OUNCE largemouth, but the success rate is poor. Most of the time the bluegill that I target will take jabs at it but they'll miss the hooks entirely. And when they do get hooked I usually lose them half the time before I can pull them out of the water. Should I go up a size and see if it helps?

>>1062397
Like a ring fry? Pretty sure they make a bubble trail if you jerk them.

>>1062398
>The dinks in my area love to go after this thing
agree.
They're missing because they have small mouths and sort of just "kiss" the lure. They probably dont even intend on eating it actually. It's their way of checking out what something is. (not fact just my perspective)
Floating rapalas are great. But if you're looking to get dinks on topwater consistently that shouldnt be you're lure.
Id focus on flies for topwater sunnies. There's no real alternative since you need something small and still weightless to keep it on top

Well the problem with having it be extremely light is that I can't cast it without my line getting wrapped loose around the spool and eventually tangling into a mess. I'm using a Daiwa Revros 2000 panfish reel on a Fenwick Eagle ultra-lite with 6lb line and even the Rapala I posted is too light for it without causing problems.

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>>1062381
I hope bass pro doesn't fuck with cabelas and just takes the monies

>>1062387
Topwater is a great summer bait all day depending on what the baitfish are doing.

>>1062395
It's never too early for Texas rigs

>>1062409
Little fly poppers are great.

>>1062409
>>1062413

>>1062414
I still cant comprehend the massive shoulders on that bluegill. Like a fucking spawning salmon

>>1062416
I think he had a touch of the downs

>>1062414
>never too early for Texas rigs
Then why do they bite at 10, but not earlier for me?

Is there a Perch guide?

Some fat middle aged creep walked up behind me today (I was in a secluded spot too) and he just started complaining about some "niggers" that were fooling around in their car back in the parking lot of the area I was at. Then he called the police after I shrugged my way through the conversation and I had to pack up and leave before I got caught up in his bullshit. He literally said on the phone to the cops "yeah I'm with my buddy here and *blablablabla*" as if to imply that we were somehow friends. I coudn't have ran out of the place faster. The cops showed up right as I pulled out so I barely avoiding being questioned.

when are the new curados due out? some places say tommorow others say november

>>1062324
What song does she like to dance too?

>>1062381
That is one happy whisker baby.

>>1062437
Nicki Minaj's Anaconda, obviously.

>>1062444
I only listen to blue grass and outlaw country, so I will pass.

Also I made it to the PINNS with enough time to find a spot and set up the tent before dark. Going to go back into town for water and ice tommarow then head down to big shell till Sunday hopefully. There are random thunderstorms so I might have to move to cover.

>>1062302
Why are smallies so pretty?

When I fish the CA Delta I actually target the Smallies more than LMBs even though the LMBs are bigger. Is that wrong?

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>>1062456
>Is that wrong
nope

smallies fight great and they love spoons

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New aquisition. Never tried one of these before.

>>1062319
Fucking hell those things must pull like an 18 wheeler. It's a shame these threads are only for boring bass.

>>1062466
Hey, I bought one of those too!

>>1062456
It's not about the size.

I fish smallies because of the setting and style of fishing. Personally like wading around and exploring rivers. Smallies just happen to be the best fish that populate the waters and take lures. (Big carp around but meh they're a pain to fish)

Smallies are simply a trout+lmb if they had a baby. They live in trout conditions but can handle still water like lmb. And it's suitable for my area where wild trout aren't as prominent. Bet your ass if I lived just a bit north I'll already be a fly fishing expert.
10/10 fish would introduce invasively

>>1062309
thats a smallie
>>1062312
thats how rock bass look everywhere
>>1062381
cabelas is a good company
>>1062416
>>1062420
thats because its a longear sunfish, not a bluegill

How Should i spend 200 on a spinning reel or memecaster? I fish mostly open water for bass with powerbait powerworms and a sinker, im not even sure if i should upgrade my spinner right now is a mid range daiwa that was around 100

>>1062476
Spend it on a high end rod. A St. Croix Triumph is a good starting place to look. They have ridiculous sensitivity which you need for those sinker rigs.

>>1062478
If he's going for bass he should look at their Bass X line. Same blanks and reel seats, but they come on more bass oriented options in terms of length and power.

top water fishing is GOAT.

>visually seeing the strike
Great feel

>can't decide between a 7'1" and 7'3" for a Heavy power rod
Mostly for frogging and some punching if that helps.
I have a 7'6" MH for pitching, so I'm not too worried about having a long heavy rod.

>>1062421
I was mostly joking I just really like tossing around t-rigs. Other stuff can definitely produce better.

But if I was gonna throw one instead of a moving bait, I would up the weight, and bounce it as soon as it hits the ground.

>>1062476
A $100 spinning reel is a nice reel. Right at the point of diminishing returns (for freshwater) imo.

Get a memecaster if you want to try something new, or upgrade your rod like the other anon said.

>>1062499
Whichever feels better in your hand. I don't think the 2" will make a huge difference.

>>1062476
st croix rod and flooger president xt has done me well

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>>1062434
You should have let him finger you with his sausage fingers.

>>1062242
If I make myself a trip code do I become popular?

>>1062420

When they spawn, male sunfish get bulbous foreheads. Spawning male channel catfish too. I've had friends think they were diseased.

>>1062555
As popular as a high school slut.

>>1062491
>tfw you set the hook too fast and it pops out of the fish's mouth.

>tfw first topwater explosion

That will you give a goddamn heart attack if you aren't expecting it.

>>1062619
I'm a virgin to topwater myself.
That might change tonight lads

>>1062491
>When the fish was actually 2 feet away from you and rushes towards your bait
>Then this happens

>>1062632
Had that once. Will NEVER forget it.

I will fish Jitterbugs until the day I die because of that moment.

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>>1062424
>buy snelled hooks or make your own drop shot rig (I usually use two hooks spaced 1ft apart so I can catch two at a time
>hook live minnow through the back below the spine
>fine vegitation in water ranging from 5-15 feet
>drop rig right over the side of the boat
>wait
>if no bites in 10 mins drift down 50 or so feet while staying in the same depth range
>once you start catching them either mark it with a waypoint or toss the anchor

The hardest part is the drifting untill you get on them. In the lake near me there are millions of them so it usually doesn't take long. Once you find them though you gotta stay in that exact spot. Also another thing is sometimes you will start catching them but a majority of them will be dinks. When that happens I treat the situation the same way as if I wasn't catching anything and keep drifting untill you start catching eater sized ones.
>>1062630
Topwater a best

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Caught this white grunt this morning, brought home and cooked it for lunch. Tasty.

>>1062684
How could you eat such a cute fishy?

>>1062721
probably with his mouth

Alright boys, black or unpainted tungsten?

>>1062730
Arab tungsten.
Arabs truly are above all, not north Africans or Saudi niggers, but ME Arabs.

>>1062730
Green pumpkin

>>1062741
Even if I'm throwing stuff like red bug trick worms?

>>1062721
It's easy when you fry it in butter, salt and pepper and then serve it with a little lemon juice.

I'm going to try Texas rigging a 1/8oz Bitsy Bug jig with a 3/16oz bullet weight. I figure double weight and the knocking might be interesting. Will be sure post pics. Wish me luck, boys.

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>>1062743
Sure why not. If it were me I'd just get all three. You getting them from that place I linked last thread?

>>1062730
Doesn't matter.

>>1062752
.... How are you going to t-rig a jig?

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>>1062752
They make things that you can put on jigs that make them rattle. I use them on all of my jigs

>>1062759
I'm going to put a free bullet weight in front of the jig.

>>1062763
Texas rig refers to the way a plastic is rigged on a hook. Using a bullet weight has nothing to do with it.

>>1062777
So if I wanted to be pedantic could I refer to a Carolina rig as a "barrel weight swiveled Texas rig"?

>>1062784
Eh the whole thing is called a Carolina rig. It would be technically correct to say you Texas rigged the plastic on a Carolina rig though, but that's usually implied when you say "Carolina rig."

what happen to wormguy

i need him

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>>1062242

Size 8 flashy wooly bugger ftw. Ended up catching 4 bass and 3 Sunnies/bluegill

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>>1062814

>>1062814

This guy fought harder than the bass. I thought I had a good 2-3lb Largemouth but nope bigass sunfish. Gonna get a flea comb tonight to start improving my deer hair streamers

>>1062833

Anon that bass is not 2 lbs

>>1062938
He didn't say it was.
He said the bluegill fought like it was a 2-3lb bass.

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>tfw Pepsi's wife's black son out fishes him on a regular basis

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>>1062938
Anon, that is not a bass

>>1062833
The big Mayans are the same. For their size, they fight much harder than bass. For me tho, I can normally tell the difference as soon as I set the hook. The Mayans like to run parallel to shore back and forth.

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>>1062948

>>1062949
Bass are the ultimate meme fish. Even fucking panfish fight harder.

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>>1062950
KEK
>>1062951
Large mouth bass*

>>1062963
This

Peacocks are great. But you get a handful of lazy largemouths on certain days. You can reel them in 75% of the way and they will finally start fighting when you get them 15' from shore.

And that kid, I always thought it was dude's kid. Only later did I find out it was his crazy ex gf's kid. And he finally got away from her and has been with a new girl, but found out the crazy old girl had a baby so now he's gonna be paying that child support

>going to pick up dude one day to go fishin
>pullin up to his apartment, try to call and he isn't answering his phone
>see his car with trunk popped open and all of his shit scattered around the parking lot
>looks like dude owed somebody money and they ripped him out of his car as he was coming home or some shit
>like 20min later, dude finally comes outside with crazy fat ratchet black bitch screaming about some shit
>says she freaked out and threw his stuff all over and tried to break his fishin rod

>>1062963

Why are you holding it like a trophy wife picking up a tissue you fruitcake

>>1062951
>>1062963

I don't have much else besides carp/sunfish/catfish/largemouth/crappie around. Bigger LMB are fun to catch though, e
specially on a flyrod.

But yea, I mean that was a bigass sunfish. I might really try for trophy sunfish/bluegill lol - that one was already huge. I tried casting into some carp but the line dropped within 9ft of their vision and they shit themselves/dashed off. Fuckers.

>>1062971
He had a blemish on the other side of him so I held it like that to get a good picture
>>1062972
I've been having a blast catching gills with my fly rod. I could spend the whole day doing it

>living near an inlet full of snook, tarpon and other god tier gamefish most people can only dream of fishing for
>drives 45 minutes to go to a dink pond and catch half pound LMB

It's like being in a fishing cuck shed. How could you do this to yourself Pepsi? During the summer bass fishing is slow but saltwater fishing is on fire. What's your excuse?

>>1062981

Dude he throws meme spinners for dinks alll day from the shore. He couldn't catch a snook or tarpon to save his life.

>>1062981
I have barely been freshwater fishing lately either.

My excuse- a pretty girl

>>1062984
Ehh, maybe I could catch one. But we will never know because I don't try.

>>1062977
I find that catching large bluegill/sunfish is more challenging than getting a big bass too. I'm tying some size 8 Clouser Swimming Nymphs and hope to get a nice 2lb+ one soon. I'll prob try going after the carp again too.
>fuckin carp have a 4 month photographic memory
>basically have to throw somethin new every time if you're not fishing with fruit/vegetables

Imma prob try making some cotton/seedpod flies as well. Apparently carp like that shit and they've probably never seen a lure/fly like that in my area.

>>1063012

>3 probablys in 48 words
Welp time for me to take a nap

>>1062981
>tfw I drive 7 hours to get skunked

I mean I'd probably still fish for bass quite a bit if I lived near the ocean, but saltwater fishing is too fun to not do it.

>>1062987
Maybe tomorrow?

>can't go out and topwater for some bass before sunset
>stuck being forced to babysit my niece

Why does my family volunteer me for everything, I don't even live with them.

>>1063072
>not taking your niece fishing

>>1063075
>spending a day on the lake trying to relax with a screaming child

>>1063081
>spending a day in the house trying to relax with a screaming child
What's your point?

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UK-dudes, I am an American fly fisherman so about as far away in style to UK carp fishing as can be but I still cannot watching Nash videos. For some reason those guys are entertaining and the style of fishing looks comfy...literally, seeing as they bring tents, cots, beds, etc. to the bank with them.

I'm sure the OI BRUV TIME FOR FISHIN IN IT stuff might be a turnoff to UK folks but since I am American it's just funny/fun seeinglike BIG UOS DRUM N BASS MASSIVE dudes that are very passionate (and good), well spoken fishermen (not to mention businessmen).

Are any of you guys carp fishermen in this UK style?

https://youtu.be/xzj6MusXedw

Maybe it's so interesting just because it's so different from what I do or anyone else around here. It's no even that I want to do it the much, just neat that it exists.

What are some good fish in the Midwest to fish as a newbie fly fisherman? I've heard some people do pike and carp but any tips on this? Most of the water around me here in Iowa is pretty murky.

>>1063081
>not "teaching them to fish" and taking them home soaked and smelling of fish slime
It's like you're not even trying.
If you put the effort in, they'll never volunteer you again.

Is there a single person that visits these threads that goes saltwater fishing? Seems like any posts about it get ignored while posts about LMB and panfish get tons of (you)'s.

>>1063091
Trout
Tasty as fuck and there's a world of help and literature out there for you to learn from.
Say you want to fly fish for trout at any fly shop and there will be knowing nods and the whole shop will be open to you.

One caveat: Avoid "dry fly only" fags like the fucking plague. They are the original cancerous fly fishing faggots, and hell is too good for them.

>>1063096
It's like there are lots of people who don't own boats and/or don't live along the ocean here...

>>1063096

I fish for stripers when I can but I don't own a boat and I don't like surf fishing.

>>1062949
Perch really like rooster tails and mepps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYqKhpiTCTM

>skip to 6:10

Fucking kek

>>>739321050

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>>1063025
Kek. I actually stopped yesterday for like half an hour and got a couple dinks and lost a nice one. I think I was right on the edge of a pressure front.

And I was actually just at a lake, one of those little clear water ones where 10% of the time it's great and the other 90% of the time, skunked. Now I'm heading over to girl's work so we can go pick up this rental car for our little road trip tomorrow.

Strange shit at this lake, there was light rain on and off and just about dusk. Calm surface, and then every 5min or so, a group of fish would start jumping. Looked like they were small-med LMB, but they would all start jumping together in a group for about 15 seconds, then stop for a bit. Reminded me of those Asian carp videos except it was a group of maybe half a dozen fish and they would pop up in one place, jump a bunch, calm down, and then a few min later do the same thing again like 50' away from the previous spot.

Any idea? I have seen carp breeding before when they flop in the grass, but these fish were way out in open water each time and a big group of them.

>>1063127
If that lake has shad in it the bass could've been feeding on them. When the lakes get warm shad tend to stay near the top of the water column. If you see it again try throwing a spook or something.

>>1063135
I tossed a popper

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>fishing t-rigged zoom worm again with so-so success
>A bit frustrated with missed hits, definitely some of them smallies and not just sunnies tackling it
>Get a bite
>HHHHMMM I THINK ILL JUST WAIT A SEC BEFORE SETYIMG THE HOOK
>gut hooked with ewg hook
>Bleeding by the time I lift him up
Feels like shit killing a fish when youre intentionally going for CnR. Too small to harvest.

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>>1063146
Then finally got my first topwater bass.
I figured shit would be popping once the sun fell low enough so that the whole river was in shade.
Turns out I get this guy on the way back.
Before I was worked it with patience and all different retrieves. I get my first fish on just reeling it in a bit on a tempo. Not really as exciting as I imagined.

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>>1063146
Same. Honestly ruins my day when that shit happens. ive been doing really well with reviving my close calls though. I was pumped when that trout that was belly up in my net for almost 2 full minutes flipped back around a rocketed back into the current

Why do fish seem to never relax when I handle them? I've had so many jump out of my hands or flop back into the water behind my back while I try to get my camera out.

>>1063154
Why do people never relax when a lion has their jaws around the person's throat?

>>1063154

What kind of sheltered world do you live in to not know the answer to that. We've become way to detached from where our food comes from.

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>>1063141
And you didn't get anything with it? Idk man fish are weird sometimes.

>>1063146
After I feel a bite I usually wait for the line to move a little bit then set the hook after i see movement. Even if I end up pulling the lure out of the bass' mouth the first time I can usually pitch it back to where I got bit and make him commit. Haven't had a gut hooked fish with EWG in a long time. The only recent one I can think of was with a wacky rig hook, but I got it out alright.

>pro tip
If you can see the barb of the hook cut the like and pull the hook out backwards so the barb isn't catching on everything coming out

>>1063152
+1 that's what I did with guy. I don't think it was 2 minutes worth, but it felt like a long time.

>>1063154
You've gotta hold them anon. Most of the time a bass won't try to shake too much if you have a firm grip on its lip. If you're going to lay it down on the ground to take a picture get your camera/phone out before you set it on the ground and take the pic fast.

>>1063161
>cut the like
Line*

>>1063160
>>1063155
I get it but I see videos and other people don't seem to have the same problem as much

>>1063161
Yep, I waited for my line to move as usual. I waited too long than normal. Additionally it was in a current so i bet some timing-sense was altered. Never intentionally doing that again. Lesson learned.

>>1063168
They probably hold it very firm and correctly since they got experience.

Or the fish they "caught" has been tired out and ez to handle since it was already caught and set up for a sponsored lure B)

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Who /abovethelaw/ here

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>>1063170
Current fucks with me hard sometimes. I've set the hook on nothing because I thought the line was moving.

>>1063146
The way I justify it is, the fish will either be pike or catfish food at that point.

I may have killed one fish but fed another.

>>1063177

Fillet yourself next time.

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>>1063181
The only good fish is an eaten fish

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Also this

>>1063177
>>1063183
>catching freshwater strippers and pretending to be a poacher on an anonymous Cambodian spider collecting forum

Worse than actually poaching desu

Btw if I had nice fish on, fighting and felt like a smallie, yet the worm on my ewg hardly changed orientation (some space between the hook point and lure) did the smallie never have it in its mouth completely?

>>1063180
I'm fortunate it wasn't a bigger smallie.

>>1063186
AZfags have it good. They don't have a 2perpersonperday limit there. In fact, they don't have a limit at all.

I MIGHT be moving to Las Vegas, does lake mead have decent fishing?

https://youtu.be/Vbsx2QPeWtU

Any Alaska fags here?
I'm looking through the info dump. Is a medium weight rod ok for coho/silver salmon or should I go up to medium-heavy? Possible chance of kings if I go to Eklutna.
The last time I went fishing was when I was 8 and my dad set up everything for me.

>>1063161
>If you can see the barb of the hook cut the like and pull the hook out backwards so the barb isn't catching on everything coming out
>barb
>not mashing your barbs like civilised flyfags
>>1063228
i'd go atleast medium heavy, maybe even heavy, desu, salmon can be pretty serious fish. i doubt there are many people here who can do a bunch of good for you, i think you would be better off talking to local shops, they have always steered me in the right direction.

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>buy Revo STX on Cabela's website Thursday evening
>checking account was charged immediately
>item didn't ship until following Monday
>Tuesday morning my money was returned to my checking account
>check package tracker and still in transit
>call delivery services at the store it's being shipped to
>explain situation
>woman tells me that all orders aren't charged until AFTER the item is shipped
>further tells me that she's never seen an order get charged before the shipment and she believes the money was returned because it was charged early
>tell my gf and she says something similar happened with a different retailer and PayPal didn't re-charge her and she got a $50 item free
>mfw I might get a Revo STX free if they don't re-charge me
Let's be positive, boys.

>>1063253
i'll give you $20 for it

>>1063187
Even if it dies and washes up on shore, a raccoon or possum might get it, too

>>1063186
>Cambodian spider collecting forum
That's /arachnid general/ on /an/, my friend. Good place, if you like spiders

I am so goddamn sick of finding somebodys cut line they left behind. What the fuck is wrong with people, if you get a snag pull on it until the knot breaks, don't fucking cut it. And if you're tying strong braid directly to your lure and therefor can't break the knot then not only are you a retard but you should be gassed.

The environment is sacred, take some goddamn responsibility.

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>>1063296
It makes me mad too. I pick up line whenever I can.

I'm sure there's also a lot of people who just don't know how bad it is for the encironment. Not even fish necessarily, but birds and small mammals could get kilt by it too. Some of it is also probably left by people who don't fish very much because they don't know it's fucking annoying to get snagged on somebody else's old line.

Are there any cheap (~$50) pack fly rods that are serviceable? Looking to take a many-piece fly rod in my backpacking setup.

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This is my local spot. I love it there.

>>1063203
Lots of Mirelurks near the crashed bomber. If you wanna go diving as well the guys at the airbase rewards you for raising that bomber too.

>>1063324

Fuck anon, time to start another play through.

>>1063241
Coho are supposed to average around 8 pounds. That doesn't seem super heavy.
Kings average around 20 and the lunkers get significantly heavier, and that's what you need a really beefy rod for.
We have invasive pike, but I heard they don't get very big compared to the monster pike people usually talk about.
I might just have to ask around Basspro about rods, but what about reels?

I've been pointed towards Ugly Stiks (GX2) and the Daiwa BG reels. Would a 2500 fit most applications or would I need a beefier reel for bigger fish? I only plan on fishing from the bank.

>>1063082

You can go fishing and you can take a kid with you fishing.

But you can't do both at the same time.

>>1063096

I mostly freshwater fish for catfish, but I do a weekend at the coast marathon saltwater fishing once a month or so.

>>1063296
i've noticed it's almost always chinks who do that

>>1063096
I like saltwater fishing but unfortunately I don't own a boat and don't really have any gear for surf/wading and take away those two variables and you're pretty much stuck with pier fishing around here and that's not really my thing especially with the type of people you run into.

>>1063241
I actually do on smaller flies. Makes it so much easier to remove. Never really been to much of a problem with bass sized stuff though.

>>1063266
>That's /arachnid general/ on /an/, my friend. Good place, if you like spiders

No thanks kek. I don't hate spiders, but I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan.

>>1063324
Be sure you get the rebreather beforehand. Makes it a lot easier.

>>1063465
If you've got legs and a rod you've got gear for wading, unless you live somewhere cold

>>1063015
Probably so.

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So I think I might be in the lead for most retarded catch. This guy here somehow knotted my line around his bottom jaw some 50 yards away from the bait.

>>1063494
Ladyfish do a lot of jumps, I'm surprised it didn't come off. Nice catch

>>1063494
>>1063523
Do they have those near me? I think that is the one type of fish larger than a little baitfish that I have actually hooked in saltwater. He spit the hook out halfway thru the retreive tho.

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>>1063465
I'm so glad the pier I go to is usually really active and not full of shitty people.

>>1063526
Yes, tons of them.

>spit the hook
Probably was a ladyfish. Many people call them poor man's tarpon since they do tons of jumps .

>>1063527
nice cobia

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>>1063526
They are the most fun to catch of the saltwater dinks. They are suckers for gotcha plugs, small spoons and soft swimbaits.

>>1063536
and they make great bait

I don't know squat about fishing. Every time I've gone, my dad or whoever was hosting me did everything for me. Now I'm looking to get out on my own.

I've read the pastebin, but I guess I still don't understand what makes a good rod and reel good.

>>1063557
basically, what makes a good rod good, is relative light weight, good sensativity, and good strength. if your rod is undestructible but not sensative in the least, and weighs a ton (uglystik) it isnt good. if it weighs nothing but breaks the instant you use it, its not good (most shakespeare that isnt an uglystik)
if its sensative, and strong, but weighs a fuck ton, its not bad, but its not great. in order of priority, i'd say it goes strong, sensative, light. you'll catch more with an uglystik than a $12 shakespeare just because if you only feel 1/3 of the bites, but the rod survives any fish you throw at it, you will catch more fish than if you feel every bite but your rod breaks on the first fish. then if your rod is heavy, but you feel everything, and it doesnt break, its worth using. at least for a while.

>>1063561
That sounds like a "pick two" kind of conundrum. What rod brands do you prefer?

What lures/techniques are best for targeting river smallmouth? Would be fishing from 7am or so until noon.

What lures/techniques are best for targeting river smallmouth? Would be fishing 7am to noon. Was going to start with topwater poppers and move from there. I've got some shaky heads and EWG hooks along with senkos and crawfish plastics. Anything else I should pick up?

>>1063569
You on the river bank or do you have a boat?

>>1063562
Not really. Almost all good rods will be strong and have good sensitivity. The autism kicks in with the weight factor. Rods will be significantly more expensive for being a few ounces lighter. Same thing aplies to reels. Good brands include but isn't limited to: Abu Garcia, st.croix, fenwick, Shimano, castaway, diawa, dobyns, and okuma to name a few off the top of my head
>>1063567
Tubes.
Jerkbait if the water is slow enough to allow it.
Topwater poppers.
Wacky rigged senko like worm.
Good ol' Mepps or spinner bait.

>>1063557
>>1063562
If you are complete beginner head down to your local tackle shop and explain it all to them. They are happy to help. And if they are not they are not doing their job right.
Yes, you will pay slightly more for your gear than via Amazon or whatever but you pay for service and save yourself hours of research.

>>1063572
bank/wade fishing. found a map with several different access points so will still be able to hop around a bit

>>1063587
Try your best to target rock piles and that's prime territory to wacky rig and drop shot your senkos.

just got my 832 braid, its notacably thinner smoother and more flexable than normal powerpro

>>1063603
It's the best line available.

Fuck you guys I'm going fishing today

>>1063557

The best thing to do is decide what fish are common around you and which one of those you want to catch. That determines most everything from rod and reel to tackle and bait.

>>1063635
catch a big one fuckface

>>1063643
I'm in the pnw and don't have a boat, so I figure I'll mostly be after trout and bass from the shore. From what I've read, I'll probably want a 6'6" medium pole with spinning reel and 8lb line. From there I don't really know what is better/worse quality wise.
Seems like solid advice to just head to a sportsman's shop and ask for someone to hold my hand through the process. Not sure there are any mom and pop fishing stores around here.
Thanks to everyone who replied.

i realized why my casting distance was shit

it took me almost a year to realize my reel has centrifugal breaks

LMAO

also im a little bit drunk. i hope zuriss is too

>Central California
>Middle of fucking summer
>102 outside
>No boat = no access to deep water

I want to fish but I feel like it'll be 6 hours of nothing.

>>1063711
>not using a 12 foot surf rod with a 50 pound shock leader and 8 ounce bank sinker to heave a texas rigged worm 650 feet to the center of the lake to get dink bass

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my little lews decal fell off

where do i buy another one

>>1063716
you go down to the store, buy a new lews reel, then sell me that one for $12 because its used and missing the logo

>>1063720
I'm gonna put it in my will so you get all my fishing shit when I die just to piss everyone here off

>>1063696
Fenwick Eagle 6'6" medium power fast action with a Pflueger President size 20, 25, or 30 is what you want. 6-8lb test monofilament (Trilene is cheap, but Sufix Siege is great albeit a bit more expensive). Spinners and spoons for both species, and some soft plastics with finesse hooks for bass. Look up the drop shot rig and wacky rig. Summer months are tough, but these are all you need to catch some fish.

>>1063721
top kek

>>1063720
deal but u have to add me on snapchat and do some stuff for me

>>1063716
If you email them they'll probably send you one

>>1063749
i dont have snapchat

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>>1063096
There's people on here that saltwater fish

>>1063523
Not an ounce of fight in that one.

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Should I get a St. Croix Bass X or a Dobyn's Fury?

>>1062301
>>1062301
>walled in city

It's almost like you want to die during a zombie apocalypse.

>arts festival

Too late

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>>1063707
Not drunk yet, I just got back home. I had to cut my fishing trip short because I killed a case of beer while surf fish nude. I now have sun burns on 'places'. I did see some sea turtles and some tits.

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>>1063253
>tfw Cabela's still hasn't taken their money back
Looks like I got a free reel, boys.

>>1063711
Oh there's fish alright
See
>>1063185
>>1063177

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Caught this bastard while fishing for catfish. He sure was hell to reel in with 8 lb test.

Sorry for the poor lighting.

>>1063918
He was protecting the whisker-babies.

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>>1063918
>catfishing with 8 lb
>pic related

>>1063809
i was looking into these rods and decided to save pennies for a mojo bass or other rod in that price range. ive heard the bass x is plenty sensitive but the reel seat feels cheap.

>>1063892
Where??

>>1063926
>decided to save pennies for a mojo bass
>the reel seat feels cheap
Bass X: Fuji ECS reel seats
Mojo Bass: Fuji ECS reel seats
I don't know what to make of this.

>>1063926
>>1063928
Reel seats are hardly ever a problem unless you are fishing for 40+ pound fish.

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Man, what a great smallie. Too bad I FUCKING GUT HOOKED ANOTHER SMALLIE ON T-RIG.

I'm a dumbass. After that I just started setting the hook asap like with any other lure. Still managed good bass doing so to. Never waiting again. Most of the time the small ones don't get a good bite of the hook, big ones do, and there's no need to wait for them.

Pic related didn't bleed however. Hopefully that cheap wally world hook rust out quick.
There was actually a bigger bass following it while fighting. I'm glad I didn't fuck that other beauty's life.

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>>1063938
Here's the 2nd best catch.

I've noticed with smallies and even schooling stripers that they follow a fellow fish that's hooked and fighting.

I wonder why.

>>1063942
Moral support?

>>1063942

They see another fish taking off so they figure it must have a reason. It found some food, is running from a predator, or something.

It's like if you were in a crowd and suddenly someone just broke out running. At least a few people would start moving in their direction thinking that person saw something they didnt.

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>>1063945
I'm thinking it's either curiosity, wondering wtf is going on with its friend, or schooling/herd mentality, just following the furiously swimming fish friend

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>>1063879
Were you in the middle of spooling or do you just like to run it low?

>>1063809
I really really like my dobyns fury. I got a heavy and its still super sensitive.

>>1063938
It happens. Just gotta hope for the best. Are you relatively new to fishing t rigs? I know it happened a lot more to me when I first started, that's why I'm asking.

>>1063942
The other one is hoping he drops whatever he just ate for an easy meal.

>>1063942
I've seen a smallie try and pull the lure out of the hooked smallie's mouth.

>>1063955
Im kind of new to t-rigs, i've been fishing them near full-time the last two trips. And as you may figured out, got a bass gut hooked each time. Plenty of good hookups before and after. Like I said I'll probably just stop waiting for them to take it. They normally go back after ot if you just take it out of their mouth quickly without a fight. And as I said I figure the important, big, ones have big enough mouths to gulp it in one go.

>>1063928
donno. going based off what was said in a review

>>1063955
I like to run my reels low. I find that I cast easier, and seeing as this is a pitching set up I'm not worried about running out of line.
Is your fury a regular heavy or a mag heavy? I was considering the 7'3" regular heavy.

>>1063972
Kewl man. I couldn't do it cause it bothers my autism too much.

And the fury rod is just a 7' 1" heavy. I use it for jigs/heavy t-rigs, and chatterbait/spinnerbaits over grass.

>>1063981
Do you ever frog with it?

>>1063927
Tracy

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>

>>1063989
Delta? Or some other body of water?

Im in Modesto. Modesto & Turlock res's and Woodward are all dogshit. I feel like I need to travel at least like 45 minutes any time I want to fish.

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>>1063998

>>1064027
I'd tell you but then I'd have to kill you.
Woodward has fish. Whenever I go camping there I have the luck of staying next to russians/slavs and they always catch a ton of carp. They swim out like 500 feet and drop a ball of bait down first. They use those long rods the 12ft ones. Big motherfucking fish too. They do catch and release tho. Sometimes if I ask they'll give me one or two to fry.

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Is this a good beginner rod for my gf? I don't want anything too expensive cuz idk if she'll stick with it. I have a few shimano baitcasters I love . Just never owned a spinning reel from them

I'm in the bay area, and I want to do some sea shore fishing. Any suggestions? I'd prefer to stay away from the actual bay due to the pollution, as I plan on eating what I catch. Will fishing at night get me fugged by authorities?

>>1064042
If you get stopped by the police make sure you drop your pants,spread your ass cheeks and yell "I'm with her"

>>1064044
Wow, thanks for that great content anon. You've really improved the level of discussion here. You're doing a great job :D

>>1064044
>>1064046
yep its summer

>>1063096
Me. And I know there are a few others.
I guess the reason for the disparity is that burgers represent the majority of posters and in the US bass fishing is almost all you hear about.

>>1064037
Looks like cheap plastic crap. I could be wrong though.
If you are smart, you get your girlfriend something you can use in case she ends up not using it.

>>1064122

That reel is awesome. When my father in law passed, the wife and I went to NC and the mother in law gave all hid old surf fishing gear.

One of the reels was a Shimano IX that had been in storage for years after being used semi regularly for surf fishing even longer.

Thing worked fine and I'm still using it for freshwater catfishing and surf/pier fishing. It's solid as hell for a 15 dollar rod. The rear drag also let's it be a kind of ghetto baitrunner. I've caught everything from stocked trout to small sharks on it.

I actually recommend the reel all the time in these threads.

The rod I have no experience with.

>>1064037

Favorite budget reel. Couldn't tell you about the rod but it should work fine.

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>>1064044
>thinking cops in SF make enough to afford to live in town

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This morning's set up, gonna get some early morning bites
Shimano curado
Fenwick HNG 7ft med
Grass burner buzzbait

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>>1064189

>>1062424
You don't need a guide for Perch I catch them on anything from gummy worms (not plastics but literal fucking gummy worms) to yellow perch pattern rapalas, just find them in the water and toss shit at them

>>1062466
They have great action and sound but I never catch anything on em

>>1062491
>the fish miss half the time and the other half I miss the hook set

>>1064217
I find it's not effective either, even at sun down fish hardly hit it.

>>1063526
There are tons of lady fish in the gulf and they are usually in large schools so you can typically catch a few of them. They do a ton of jumps as other people have said and shake their head hard when they are out of the water so if you aren't experienced they will almost always throw your lure.

They also make the best cut bait imo because they're greasy and their scaled are small and come off very easily so it makes a nice chum line.

>>1064215
You could probably literally use shit, especially if you eat a lot of corn.

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>savage gear

Why does this company still exist?

>>1064234
Marketable lures. Catch more anglers than fish

Sold off all my fishing gear about 18 months ago. I used to have a bunch of specialized shit but now I just want to set up a soft plastic rod and reel.

Do I need to spend $100 for a reel and another $100 on the rod? BPS has an Abu Garcia SilverMaxx for $60. Is there any reason I should avoid that?

so basically all fishing reels are made by one company?

>>1064243
It casts like shit and has bad drag.
Just spend the extra $20 and get a Shimano Caenan from Cabela's website. IIRC Red enjoys his, and it's that's the lowest you're going to find a reel with centrifugal breaks and decent drag.
And you can get link related really cheap now, and it performs on the same level as $100 rods
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/No8_Tackle_Co_BlackOut_Casting_Rods/descpage-NER.html

can anyone tell me which boat would be pushed easier by a trolling motor.... a 14' flat bottom jon boat or a 14' V? The V is a heavier boat

>>1064234
what's wrong with the lures? they catch fish and they have a good design where the hook releases away from the body of the lure. Would other lures catch fish just as well for cheaper? probably. pike hit just about anything. i like seeing them hit a rat or duck lure on top water though

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Under dangerous heat alert today

Can't go fishing

After I've been planning on it for 2 weeks

Just...

>>1064253
Go anyway just wear a hat.

>>1064254
Ah I figure fishing will probably be dead anyways. They don't seem to hit much in the heat. I thought about going early but I don't know.

Heat index over 100 doesn't happen here a lot.

Target shady stops I usually have success even when the real temp is over a hundred

>>1064215
>has never actually fished for larger perch
They can be picky as fuck mate. And very sensitive to changes in pressure due to their inability to easily regulate their swimbladder like most other fish.

>>1064257
So the temp doesn't change the fishing that much? I could have swore I've heard that before. I can't go now cause I gotta work soon. But I might go tomorrow. The heat warning is in effect until Saturday...

>>1064259
fish slower

>>1064259
Temps does change fish willingness to bit.
It takes a lot longer for a body of water to heat up than it does air though. One day of extreme heat/cold does not change water temp much (disregarding small ponds ofc.)

>>1064259
What are you going to target.

>>1064261
So basically bouncing something a long the bottom

>>1064264
yah but it's summer and the lake is pretty warm already. It's hard to find the data, but probably already in the upper 80's.

>>1064268
bass

>>1063485
i mash my barbs unless i plan on keeping what i catch, and actually, im the other way around, i dont worry about barbs on smaller flies because theyre so small they dont seem to do anything. just a quick grab with forceps and its out

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>>1064234
Decent salt lures desu
I like their eels

>>1064246
Pretty much nowadays, yes, unless you want to spend $300+ on a reel.
Then you can get one made by Abu in Sweden/Shimano in Japan, etc.

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>>1063879
Cabela's took their money back, but goddamn this reel casts like a mother fucker.
2 on 4 off with the magnetic breaks turned off feels so good.

>>1064250
Jonboat.
V hull has more draft and thus more drag.
If you have a million little places that are shallow, a jonboat works magnificently. They're NOT for big water, but you can float over a sandbar that's 4 inches below the surface and won't run aground. You learn to love them for that kind of shit.

>>1064255
Dress for hot weather, bring lots of water, ONE bottle of Powerade, and fish deep.
They CAN be caught now, and you'll probably have the lake to yourself given the heat, but they're going to be hiding in holes, shady spots and near cold creeks. Anything for them to stay closer to their ideal water temp. If you can do that, you'll catch fish.

>>1064288
i bet a cobia would crush that big one

>>1064259
WATER temp can affect things drastically, but most decently-sized lakes don't get lots warmer just because it's hot for a few days. If anything the bass might be 1-2 feet deeper than they usually are this time of year, but that's it.

Bass like a water temperature of 70 degrees best. Once you find where that is, look for structure at that depth and start fishing.

>>1064300
Thanks, I might try it tomorrow. Just get out early before it gets too crippling.

I don't really like fishing on bottom and it's probably a little harder to from a kayak, but I might try. And I don't know about having it to myself. With it being friday, I'd say people will be there swimming or boating...which is annoying.

>>1064305
I'm having problems finding the temp of the water though. That's what sucks. Last time I went I put my hand down in and it felt pretty warm.

>>1064270
Gather water temp data for yourself.

Go to HD/Lowe's or a pool store and get a cheapass sinking pool thermometer. Then buy some cheap and thin poly rope and tie one end to the thermometer, the other to a bigass float and then take a sharpie and mark the rope every foot. Tie the rope off at the depth you want to measure and go from there.

This is neither hard nor expensive.

>>1064310
The top foot will ALWAYS be warm. Think about it-hot water rises.
About 18 inches down it will be noticeably cooler, and then down below 10 feet it starts really dropping down to average groundwater temp.

>>1064311
Thanks that sounds pretty cheap and easy

>>1064312
I hadn't thought about that. I guess thats why they give surface temps? So I probably won't have to fish on bottom, just a little deep.

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>>1064310
If only a device which could tell you the temperature of something existed... sadly such technology is only available to military weather stations...
Or this >>1064311

>>1064312
>>Think about it-hot water rises.
The reason for the topwater being warmer has nothing to do with that. It is just because the heat source (the fucking sun) is closer and the majority of the energy gets absorbed here... people seem to severely overestimate the 'hot XX rises!' meme compared to other effects...

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Anyone use lexel before? I just used it to try and seal a potentially leaky rivet. I filled my kayak with water and couldn't find a leak, so I don't know where else it could be

>>1064234
Their lures do work

>>1063984
Nah I have 17lb flouro on it, but I think it would be a solid frogging rod otherwise

>>1064246
No, most fishing reel companies are owned by bigger companies. They're still made by Shimano, Abu, ect. The companies can and do share factories for some reels tho.

>>1064314
Exactly.
Another thing to remember is that you don't have to get exactly to the depth of the bass to catch them. Bass will rise a little to take a bait if they think it's worth it; they are used to ambushing their prey from below. Most of the fish they eat likes water a little warmer-and thus shallower-than they do, while the bass lurk under them.

>>1064319
Does frogging really need 65lb braid? I was thinking about running it with 40lb braid so I can also use it for swim jigs and light swim baits, so getting the extra yards on the spool might be nice.

>>1064326
No, I run 40lb on my froggin stick. I won't go any higher until I get my boat running. The higher test is nice cause you can pin the bass to cover and move the boat to it. If you're from shore and you pin a bass you're kinda stuck until the bass frees gets unhooked, unpinned, or the line breaks.

Even 40lb is more than enough for almost any situation bassin, boat or not.

>>1064328
Alright nice.
I just noticed that Dobyn's rates their lure weights rather low. Is this just being conservative, or should I actually consider getting a mag heavy since I intend on throwing stuff over 1oz in addition to 5/8oz frogs?

>>1062466
never have any luck on these 99% of the time. maybe they would be more effective in areas with floating vegetation though.

>>1064253
>He doesn't wet wade

>>1064316
>"hot XX rises!" meme
You mean "The laws of Physics"?

Yes, I put great stock in the laws of Physics, anon.
They've never let me down, except when they told me they would.

But like you imply, it's not the whole story.
You're correct, the shallower water IS the also first water the sun hits, so it generally warms up first and most. But even in places where the warming doesn't happen from the sun-like, say a stream from a hot spring meeting a colder lake-the warmer water will rise to top when the two meet. On the flip side, there is also mixing due to wind and currents stirring up the lake, so water down below does get warmed up too.

But for a quick and dirty explanation that holds true for most situations, it works and I stand by it.

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I used a spincasting rod instead of my eight weight. Much better

>>1064343
>he has $100 to spend on waders on short notice in the middle of the week between paychecks
>and has a store nearby where he can just pick up said waders off the shelf

>>1064349
youre fishing an 8 weight for panfish?

>>1064343
I can't wade 20-30 foot water

>>1064352
That's what scuba gear is for.
It does make casting hard though.
You'd probably prefer a frog gig or spearfishing setup when wading at those depths.

>>1064350
But why would you? Wearing waders when it's hot can't be comfortable.

>>1064329
If you're just throwing heavier lures with it I don't see a reason to not get the mag heavy. I'm fairly confident that the heavy would handle above 1oz, but id be gentle when casting.

>>1064042
Can anyone help me?

>>1064365
Depends on local laws and/or rules at the individual beaches. If they care, then do as they say you have to do; if they don't, then go nuts.
And if you're rich enough to own beachfront property then no one cares at all, as long as it's on your land. But if that's the case, why would you be asking on 4chan?

>>1064365
Why wouldn't you be able to fish at night?

New

>>1064400
>>1064400

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>>1064248
Might be the cheapest reel I own but it's easily clost to if not my favorite reel. Paired with my mojo rod it's such a good jerkbait/spinner bait setup
>>1064326
Yeah 40 is plenty. I've been frogging this very heavily padded up area and have never broken off before. Granted you can get buried and no matter how hard to pull you can't get your line out untill the fish gets off but that happens very rarely, especially if you really horse them

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>>1064385
When this one hits the bump limit, I think I'll use this pic for a gooder OP

so are we continuing here and waiting for bepis or jumping over to >>1064400

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>>1064462
I gave up on it. Too much other stuff to do.

>>1062971
KEK

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Speaking of Wels, a member of my state's fishing forum went on a trip to Europe and got this

The organization at my local Dick's is crap. The whole zoom plastic section was mix-matched all over the place. Not only that but they only had two colors of the U-tale worms. I happened to pick one up in motor oil with a chartreuse tip. I was aiming for a pumpkin-chart however, and I found this color only in a trick worm form.
I was still happy since it beat buying them online with shipping rates, and at the store they offered a third bag free if I got two.

Anyways questions for yall. Is there a difference in u-tales and trick worms I should keep in mind? Is it ok to trim the worm down in length so it's not so bulky?

>>1063780
>that retro rig in good condition
sexy