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Search terms:

Companion Planting - Raised Beds - Hugelkultur - Vertical Gardening - Square Foot Gardening - Polyculture - Composting - Windrow Composting - Mulching - Vermiculture - Espalier - Fungiculture - Aquaponics - Greenhouses - Cold Frames - Hot Boxes - Polytunnels - Forest Gardening - Aquaculture - Mittlieder Method - Keyhole Garden - Window Frame Garden - Straw Bale Gardening - Soil-bag Gardening - Lasagna Gardening - No-till Method - Container Gardening - Ollas Irrigation - Kratky Method

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Resources:

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Secondary Edible Parts of Vegetables:
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>being op
>forgetting the title

Fuck me.. oh well. Roll with it.
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>>1025243
Going to go crayfish hunting this year. My understanding is I just need a rocky creek and a bucket. Any advice?
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>>1025254
Pretty much, yes. My advice would be: take some liquor for when it fails. It always fails, goddammit.
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>>1025255
Fails because there are no crawdads around or because they're too fast?
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>>1025257
Too fast, they're so goddamn fast. Last time I ended up shooting them with a hail gun.
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>>1025257
Anyway, if you get some.. they're very taste.

Minus the hail.
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>>1025271
That looks like a hardy tomato, what race is it?
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>>1025235
You must be a European, the weather is crazy here.
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Why are my broad beans not pointing up like pic? They're just hanging down like they're too heavy.
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These shits are on the bottoms of my capsicum plant leaves and on the south facing sides.

What are they and what should I do? Most of them are brown, but there are a few green ones as well that are canoe shaped.
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>>1025279
Some varieties grow out or down anon, chill.
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>>1025283
All over? Aren't those use the usual bean lice? I always snib the tops of my broad beans so they fuck off.

The little cunts like the young leaves up top.
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>>1025286
That's good news, cheers!
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>>1025287
Huh? No lad, they're on the capsicum plant which is going into dormancy, also the leaves are months old.
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>>1025276
Yeah, the German from Upper Rhine
Tomorrow it's even supposed to go to 34, but then thunder on Tuesday (hopefully the rain doesn't skip us again like usual) and a subsequent cooldown
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>>1024824
yeah, vine borers. white paint sounds like heaven compared to foil, i'd love to hear how that works out for you. i'll have a few unprotected muskmelons this season, something easy like paint would be great for them

heres an unsuccessful zuke operation from 2015
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>>1025294
Ah, my bad. Honestly don't know what they are.

>>1025297
Same here man, my broad beans are growing super fast but it's way too warm.
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>1025311
Looking healthy and bright. What system are you currently using?
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>>1025311
Looking healthy and bright. What system are you currently using?
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>>1025323
Is the center pipe for watering and if so what size should it be? Looks cozy af but I feel like there's a high chance of overwatering this way since it goes straight to the bottom.
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>>1025307
Yeah some hate the heat (strawberries, Fatsia, mint...), others love it (basil, peppers, watermelons... are going crazy, potato shooting flowers)
Surprisingly the tomatoes seem to handle it quite well too under the foil rain shelter
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>>1025334
You're growing watermelons in Germany? How? Do you use greenhouse or something?

> tomatoes
Please never use that word again. My tommies were looking wonderful until some slugs showed up. I was looking forward to fresh tomato soup but all I got was fat slugs.
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>>1025334
Some of my peppers got burnt pretty badly the other day though
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>>1025336
Nah, just in the open. Last year they were even ripe too early (mid-August, lots of summer heat that came for a month after that got "wasted") as I used an early-ripening cultivar ("Red Star"), so this year I'm going for "Sugar Baby" and "Crimson Sweet", aiming for a bigger, early to mid-September harvest
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>>1025336
Oh and slugs on tomatoes suck, wouldn't have thought they go for the toxic nightshade leaves. Never had such a problem here, but our otherwise often cool/rainy summers regularly bring Phytophthora infestans, so I have to rain-shelter them
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>>1025336
I know that feel all too well anon.
Either put down some pellets near where they come from, or lat down the rind of a grapefruit and squish them when they come to eat it.

There are also ways to trap them by providing a home for them, which you then use to pick them off and kill them.
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>>1025336
>>1025353
>>1025355
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>>1025351
I never even considered that. Do you start them under cold glass? I would love me some watermelons.
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>>1025353
Sometimes the need for pesticide just gets so damn strong. Which I wasn't such a hippy.

>>1025355
Yeah, decided on pellets.

>>1025358
You could put this on Wikipedia and nobody would argue with you.
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>>1025359
I'm starting them late March/early April on the radiator near the window under plastic foil at constant 30°C, so they take 4-7 days to sprout, then plant out early-mid May.
Lost a few to sunburn this year though and the others suffered as well, fuck that tedious hardening process
I replaced a few by a late direct sow a couple days ago as I can't find young plants to buy anywhere (looked for them in all the local DIY/gardening stores like Hagebaumarkt, toom, Hornbach, Raiffeisen... to no avail), but I doubt they'll ripen as it's too late now, but we shall see
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>>1025362
Trying to avoid it too, but for example in the case of the box tree moth, I just had to spray some stuff. No other way around that.
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>>1025363
Ah damn, that means I'll never be able to start them now.

Talking about watermelone seedlings.. honestly I've never seen them. I suppose because they're so rare out here.

So the direct sow ones, are they coming up?

>>1025365
It sucks because I don't want to eat it. But I also don't want to feed it to my future food like chickens or pigs. But I also don't want to compost it because I'll use the compost for next year.

Damn this hippy life. Did the stuff you use work?
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>>1025369
Nah, not up yet, but it's just been 3 days or so. With the current heat, I'm expecting them in 1-2 days though
Yeah, the stuff seems to work, but damn it is expensive - €16 per bottle which I need probably 2 per season for the huge shrub (~4mx2.5mx2m)
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>>1025378
So I might have a chance if I direct sow?
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Good job on using the drawn pic op
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>>1025389
How long is your growing season still?
Maybe if you use an early ripener such as aforementioned "Red Star"
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>>1025402
I'm not sure, I live in Holland on the coast so I am sure it's not very different from where you're at. Definetly going to try, ordering some "Red Star" as we speak.

Cheers, I'll keep you informed.
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>>1025405
Well, your oceanic influence might dampen daytime highs a bit more... also if you order online now, you'll lose another 4-5 days, and at least here it'll be cooler then, anyway good luck
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>>1025408
Yeah, it's definetly more moist here and days are a bit less hot than inland. Anyway, shipping in Holland is always delivered in a single day. So tuesday, so we'll see.
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>>1025408
But yeah, it's a hail Mary, that's for sure.
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>>1025358
Hehe, relatable. I can't even sow lettuce without losing a third to these assholes.

Beer traps don't work, don't even suggest it.
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>>1025427
Beer traps work quite well when you use flour with them else your just feeding them beer
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>>1025336
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>>1025458
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>>1025460
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>>1025463
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>>1025458
I am super bad at recognizing veggies, but those are beans right?
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>>1025466
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>>1025468
red peppers
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>>1025472
Wish I could grow those in full ground, where do you live? Love the view, btw.
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>>1025473
Balkans
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>>1025476
Awesome, been to Bulgaria, beautiful country.

Everything is looking healthy but my OCD is going crazy with you lack of borders.
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>>1025466
>>1025458
Using straw.

Nice.
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>>1025486
>OCD
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>>1025494
From this angle it looks a lot nicer, yea.
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My pole beans are forming a pretty thick canopy at the top of their poles. Not much room for leaves left.

Do I need to snip the ends of the main vines to encourage them to send out more from the bottom, or will they do that on their own once their new leaves are unable to get sun?
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>>1025511
I'm tending to say no, just because I've never done that with my broad beans. But maybe.

I do have a different question: what kind of soil are you using? My pole beans always seem to die when I plant them out.
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>>1025515
"Kellogg all natural garden soil for flowers and vegetables" mixed with my native soil and a little Miracle-Gro potting soil.
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>>1025521
Cheers mate, my soil isn't that different so it has to be the climate. Your beans look awesome.
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>>1025523
Could be the variety as well? Different beans native to different climates and all that.
I'm in zone 9a, the beans are yardlong beans.
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Anyone have any experience WWOOFing at a local farm for like just a day or a weekend?
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Today is day I was supposed to plant my garden. I was racing against the thunderstorm that was coming my way. I completely failed. Now I have 36 mudholes and 0 plants.
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>>1025559
Depending on when you stopped digging, you may need to re-till your soil.
Disturbing wet soil tends to compact it.
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So I want to plant a garden in my backyard but I'm literally 2 feet away from an electrical box and the neighborhood society got pissy about gas lines when I was digging up my front lawn to plant a new lawn.

I'm already doing raise beds and shit for tomatoes because 90% of the "soil" here is clay. Thing is I don't know if I can do a raise bed for the water melons I want to grow.

What do?
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>>1025610
I'm pretty sure you can do a raised bed for anything, as long as you make it tall enough. Everything has a limit to how deep its roots go.
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>>1025559
Why would you do that? Just plant as you dig.
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I posted this in another thread and I want to see if I can get a different opinion.

I was walking in the wooded area near my house and we found the biggest tree we could to chill by.

On the tree trunk about 4 feet high was pic related. It was bulging out of the tree like a boil or something. I had no idea what the fuck it was so I stuck my knife at the edges of it and it plopped out.

My money says it's a fungus or something. My gf said it was a tumor or something of the like. The light brown was a light flesh like color, like freshly chopped wood.

The indent this had looked like it was a part of the tree itself.

Anyone know what the hell this is?
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>>1025634
It's too small to be a burl, my bet would be that it's some sort of tree tumor or a canker. I'm not a tree expert, btw, I just spent like 5 minutes skimming wikipedia articles.
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>>1025635
Kek, credible enough for me
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What to do about aphids on an ornamental shrub in my yard?
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>>1025610
I'm doing my watermelons in 30 gallon tubs this year. They're paired with the jerusalem artichokes. Pretty much anything can be grown in raised beds or containers if you try hard enough.
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>>1025667
Soapy water spray followed by a release of ladybugs.
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Attempted to eat some boiled Typha tubers with dinner. Do not attempt.
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>>1025688
After grilling in foil with a potato. Smelled and tasted like just potato, but was too stringy to be edible. The inside portion of the stalk just burned so I guess they have to be eaten raw.
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what is a good method for killing off grass in an area without hurting the chances of growing other things (vegetables)?

cover with landscape fabric/plastic?
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Anyone use a capillary mat for houseplants? I bought an African Violet a couple months ago and now I'm up to 6 of them. I've been watering them from the bottom by 6 small bowls with water and putting each pot in one until the top surface of the mix if damp.

I'm interested in a capillary mat to keep them watered for longer. I bought some felt and made a mock up of what I'm thinking and it wicked the water to the top and was drenched in only a couple minutes.

Anyone had success with this method?
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Anyone do agriscaping? I'm probably gonna get the in home consultation since the CEO lives in my hometown. The consultation is valuable for me because i have know clue where to start and researching the best ways to grow things on my own myself would probably not go well.
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>>1025874
*No clue.
My phone must have autocorrected that.
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>>1025243
how do i make fertilizer at home?
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>>1025879
FBI go away
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>>1025840
You can use boiling water to kill all existing plants without making the soil lethal to future plants.
However, it also kills soil organisms like worms and bugs and stuff, so it may hurt the soil quality a bit. It could also take a lot of trips with a pot of boiling water, depending on how much area you have to clear.

Landscape plastic should work, or anything that blocks sunlight.
You could even plant vining leafy plants, like sweet potatoes. As the vines spread, their leaves will block sunlight and the grass will die. When I harvest my sweet potato patch, the grass underneath it is always scarce, if there at all.

You could also buy one of those turf-making machines that shears the grass, roots and all, right off the ground.
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>>1025904
well actually, one of the things that will be going there will be pumpkins, and those things spread out like wildfire
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Finished the garlic harvest. Pretty happy with it, for a first timer.
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>>1025913
Better pic after I made the world's shittiest hardneck garlic braids. Thanks to the anons who helped with advice in the previous thread.
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>>1025914
I wouldn't even call those braids, they're just bundles.
They're some nice-looking bundles of garlic, though.
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>>1025919
Thanks m8. Already made a batch of pesto and used some for the ribeye I had tonight.

Probably a lot more than my household can use before it goes bad though.
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>>1025914
>>1025913
10/10 would not go near
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>order 2 yards of manure for vegetable garden
>garden is now 1/3 manure
oops
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There's a fuckton of tiny flies in the soil of a bed. Some eggs were laid or nest made... I don't know.

Assuming The larvae don't eat the roots or something they're nor visibly destroying anything. Yet I'd like to get rid of them before they made it into the house.

I tried to cover the soil with coffee grounds, I try to wash them away with water... They still swarm around.

Should I just let the soil dry, use some of these insect repellant from the grocery store? I don't know.
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>>1025926
Oh! I'll try to spray soapy water tonight. Maybe that'll work.
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>>1025927
Soapy water will only kill the ones it touches.
If they're nesting in the soil, to get to them you'd need to use so much soapy water that it might harm your plants.

Maybe look into natural predators that eat flies like that? Huntsman spiders or something?
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I don't know how to identity insects and their predators so I'll just wait for them to come if they hang around.
In the meanwhile I want do what I can to stop them.
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Ok so some of my Swiss chard plants are growing tall and skinny to the point where the new growing leaves are starting way to high up the plant.

I know what you are going to say "not enough light" But that cant be it because plants i have infront, behind and on either side of those lanky fucks are growing just fine.

What can cause this?
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>>1025923
you can compost it for next year
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>>1025926
little flies often like wet soil - could you be watering too much?
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>>1025926
I'm assuming they're fungus gnats. Mostly harmless to established plants, although the larvae could damage the roots of very young plants. Put some pic related close to your plants and they'll catch the entire gnat population in a day.
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>>1026035
What is pic related?
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>>1026005
They've bolted. Cut out the flowering stalk, you might be able to salvage them. It's probably becasue they're too hot and/or dry. Different plants require different heat, sun and water leverl.
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>>1025879
Just go to a farmer and get soe manure. Double dig your garden with it. (Do this at the end of the year)

Or a cheap effective plant feed: Get an onion bag, fill it with nettles, place in a barrel of water / a water butt for a few weeks then use said water a a feed for your garden. I'm in the UK so use your country's equivalent (I'm assuming Urtica dioica grow worldwide though)
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>>1025634
It's a burl or burr. The big ones have value in certain aspects of carpentry.
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>>1025511
Pinch out the growing tip or they'll get too tall. Don't worry about how many leaves it has. Once you take the tips off they should produce more flowers.
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>>1026055
>burr
oh fug we have a conflict
>>1020364
>>1020389
>>1020406
>>1025578
>>1026029
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>>1026057
In the UK we call them Burrs.
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>>1026058
i believe you
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>>1026041
Butterwort/Pinguicula
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first time with a compost bin. really just chicken wire around a little area. piled up all my debris and little bugs are all in it doing there thing. kinda neat.
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>>1026068
need more debris though. thinking about asking some of these hedge trimmer mower guys for some. was this big truck cutting hedges, just packed with cuttings.
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Was in the garden yesterday and found this monster! Kind of want to wait for it to go to seed so I can see what its kids look like.
Anybody know how dandelions react to transplants?
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>>1026089
And of course I forgot pic.
Mutant dandelion looks a bit like a sunflower imo
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>>1026089
You can split their roots and probably propagate a few plants from something this big

It's in the same family as sunflowers and marigolds
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>>1026023
>>1026035
Thanks, I think you pin pointed the problem. I think I'll let the soil dry and maybe put sticky traps around. I have no idea how to buy what you propose.
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>>1026091
Hairy arms but painted nails.
I can't decide whether you're a dude or a chick
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>>1026145
No such thing as girls on the internet, duh
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>>1026091
Fasciation, it's a sort of fusion, not a mutation.
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>>1026142

Make sure the bottom of the plant isn't in a saucer, they will lay eggs in the bottom too.

Some permethrin spray is what I used to knock them back really hard. Available in any garden section. Spray them every other day for a week or two.
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>>1026156
Jesus christ, how horrifying.
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Lads, I just recieved some agar plates of oyster mycelium; how do i go about preparing outdoor soil for inoculation?
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>tfw strawberry overload
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>>1026292
Just make preserves, dude.
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>>1026298
Yeah will additionally freeze some, but that space is limited
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>>1026292
That is the white gooey stuff? Looks like cum.
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>>1026323
Plant-based gelatine (not cause I'm vegetarian or so, it's just cheaper), wasn't cooled down yet
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>>1026209
Add lots of organic matter and water. Plenty of compost and woodchips, burying them if possible. You want to aim for a slightly acidic (4.5-5ish) pH to discourage bacterial growth while encouraging fungi.
Might be worthwhile propagating the mycelium onto wet newsprint or cardboard first to give yourself better odds
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>>1026156
That is fucking awesome. Looks like photoshop gone clone mad.
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>>1026156
This looks like a good design for one of those eye masks people wear to bed.
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>>1026299
?? Hot water bath can them as jam.
2 cups fruit to 1 cup sugar, works every time.
Wash berries, chop, measure, put in stock pot.
Add 1/2 sugar. Cook on med-high until boiling. Drop down to med. Cook until consistency is right. Pour into sterilized jars. Wipe rims. Lid. Process in hot water bath. Store on shelves until ready to eat. Lasts ~1 year.

Note: Flavour intensifies over the course of the first 24-48 hours.
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>>1026378
Only thing I'm canning is tomatoes to use as sauce stock later on, don't really like marmelade or "breakfast food" in general (I almost never eat before 4pm)
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>>1026381
You could sell the jam.
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>>1026382
I'm actually sharing some with family/friends, but mostly raspberry when the season's on (very soon too), and get other stuff/pub bills paid etc in return
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>>1026381
>Not making PB & strawberry jam sandwitches
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>>1025254
>>1025257
Bring a net. The trick is to have the net set up and then 'chase' the crawdads into the net.

Its best to bring some people with you to help.

As for catching them by hand the trick is to be sneaky.

The crawdads wont flee fast enough if you can sneak up on them and grab before they realize their in trouble.

I did it all the time when I was a kid doing it by hand. Later i found out the net and flush them into it trick. Use their own speed against them that way.
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I have fruitfly maggots in my compost bin, is this normal?
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>>1026408
Is there fruit in your compost bin?
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>>1026412
A lot of fruit, from images online they look like fungal gnat larve. God it grosses me out when I open my bin now
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>>1026417
you could try attracting BSF which will outcompete smaller grubs or dubia roaches from the pet store

(-:
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>>1026421
Thank you, gonna try the roaches!
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>>1026408
>>1026412
>>1026417
>>1026421


>I'm letting things rot outside
>Is it normal for things that like rotting stuff to be involved?

What the fuck, just let them fulfill their niche
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>>1026426
I mean obviously yeah but you can still tinker with it so it's not repulsive maggots doing the business

They also tend to make it smell a lot worse than BSF larvae
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what is this and why was it in one of my lavender pots. ragweed? a tree? its cotyledons were long and thin, at first it looked like a weird tomato seedling

east coast
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>>1026352
Sounds good, thanks for the advice anon!
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>>1026435
That is a strange plant. It looks like the impossible offspring of a tomato and a potentilla.
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>>1026329
>>1026292
dude just learn how to make a legitimate pie instead of that bullshit
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>>1026662
That's how we make them here though
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Are these little clear ball things on the underside of okra leaves normal? Thought they were leafminer eggs at first and just about went crazy with the pyrethrin
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>>1026776
Could be exudates, some plants regulate their moisture levels with them, I have them on my grapevines
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>>1026435
>>1026571
Let it grow, see what it is. Maybe it's some rare kind of tomato or something.
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Did some final repotting work today. This one is for my mom.
(The land in the background is not mine, sadly. I have a 1st floor apartment with a relatively big deck).
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>>1026831
The snibbed bepper in its final home.
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>>1026834
The 'main' family, in the greenhouse. Original plan was to grow 'a few peppers' to make into bonsai eventually. Planted 18 seeds, assuming noob me would fuck up most. 11 sprouted, and then these threads and the /an/ thread got me good. Besides these I have a bunch of drosera, a flytrap, 2 sarracenia, 3 pinguicula, some succulents, basil, thyme, and chives.

Left to right
>Tiny Tim tomato
>3 types of strawberry: Anaïs, Sweet Ann, Reine Des Vallées
>(small pot) Caramel Bhut Jolokia + CAP 1166
>CAP 1166
>Back row 1: Explosive Ember (the one that started my snibbed bepper trend)
>Back row 2: Caramel Bhut Jolokia
>Front row 1: Numex Twilight
>Front row 2: Bolivian Rainbow
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>>1026843
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Meanwhile int he war on Moles: >>>/diy/1182250
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>>1025369
>>1025363
The stragglers are coming up! Now I can only wait and hope for a long summer
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>>1025243
Who here knows anything about roses?

Its almost summer here and I have a couple of rose bushes, a couple have some piss poor growth on them (tiny leaves, holes in them, etc) and I was thinking about trimming them off so the new better foliage can grow better. Would it work, or would I end up killing the plant?
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I had no clue passionflower grew in Southern California. I was taking a walk through the park and there it was attached to the chain link fence.

I managed to grab a fruit to grow but dared not taste it. If I grow this would the fruit be edible? It was blood red inside (and maybe the seeds aren't ready yet)
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Woke up to find mushrooms in some of my planters and herb pots. They look like pic related. Some turned white and had black spots at the top. Do I have to toss everything in the planters with mushrooms?
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>>1027124
No, pull the mushrooms out and let it dry out a bit and then water it less.
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>>1027124
Eat them.

>>1027053
Probably. Can't think of a reason they wouldn't be.
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>>1027128
Thanks. I picked them out. They call popped up in planters i tried this really heavy soil in and not in the ones I didn't so I think I'm gunna have to me more careful with some of my plants water intake

>>1027129
They don't have white gills, stem rings, or the color red but even if they are safe there is no way am I giving these fuckers the satisfaction of eating them.
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>>1026831
>>1026834
>>1026843
>>1026845
Very, very nice.
Sun burned every single one of my peppers. Some look weird now, all of them are thrown back in their growth. One of my Carolina Reapers is basically on the lifeline.

>tfw when growing them carefully for months and then one poorly chosen afternoon they have to suffer
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>>1027053
I have passionflower growing and setting fruit in Belgium, it's a surprisingly hardy plant. I just put seeds from a store bought passion fruit (passiflora edulis) in the ground a few years back and now during summers the plant is enormous. Your variety looks a bit different, but it should work just fine especially if they're already growing in your area. I think all passiflora fruit are edible in the sense that they won't kill you, but you'll have to taste it to see if it's nice.
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Leaf miners are annoying. Wat do?
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took on a patch on my dads allotment late last year and it's my first real experiment with growing and man do I love it now.

So satisfying seeing things grow.

Still so much to be done but it was a complete overgrown dumping ground when i started with it.
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>>1027156
Pyrethrin? Neem oil?
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>>1027150
How did that happen? Did you not harden them enough? Or is your sun a lot harsher?
It's all a first for me, but it all went really well, about 2-3 weeks of gradually putting em outside on cloudy days or in the weak evening sun, and now they can take a whole day of 30°C full sun.
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I am plagued by Amaranth, it's sprouting everywhere I have dirt. Bleh.
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Is this Agria cultivator with plough/ridging bodies adequate for preparing 1,5 acre of backyard soil for homesteading?
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>>1027321
Forgot pic

I was considering a small tractor but
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>>1027322
tractors seem a little overkill for just 1,5 acres and I'd rather pay a local farmer to plough, but some of the land is too sloped for heavy vehicles
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>>1027322
>>1027331
That's a QT machine anon, i don't see why it wouldn't do a good job on your size plot.
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My pole beans are turning into a spider hotel, I've seen five or six different species on it since the vines reached the top and formed a canopy.
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>>1027379
Nice, got any pics of spideys?
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>>1027136

Those are inky caps. They are a sign of healthy, actively decomposing soil.

I grow them by the baleful
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>>1027409
I haven't taken any pictures of the spiders.
I do have a pic of an assassin bug that moved in, though.
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>>1027414
Do they actively help the soil, or do they compete with the plants already growing there?
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>>1027425

Typically they are found growing on rotting wood or straw. They break down and feed off the cellulose and lignin of these woody materials.

They'll help break down tough soil components into stuff your plants can use. This is pretty typical of all mushrooms, as they are decomposers.

tl;dr mushroom good
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Why have my indoors seedlings halted growing?
Some are stuck in their first set of leaves.
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Since my compost bin seems a little small to heat up like compost should, I'm thinking about buying some worms and vermicomposting instead.
So far I've only been adding scraps of produce to the bin, since I'm worried about meat and such having bacteria that the pile isn't hot enough to kill. But is it different with worms?
Can I feed them all manner of leftover food, or should I still stick to produce?
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>>1027494
Do you have them under a grow light/window? They could be starved for sunlight.

Or maybe they're taking time to develop their roots.
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Planted the vegetable garden tonight. Except for the tomatoes and potatoes because I couldn't find the varieties I wanted yet. Over the years the garden has been becoming more and more just green beans and carrots, since they grow well and everyone likes them. 4 rows of carrots, 4 rows of green beans that were started indoors, and 2 more rows of green beans from seed.

Used an aluminum extension ladder, some posts and a few boards laid across it so I could plant stuff without stepping in the garden and compacting the soil. If I ever make another garden from scratch its going to be long raised beds with walking space between them so I never need to walk in the garden.
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>>1027501
If you have absolutely no walking space, how are you going to tend and harvest? Are you just going to leave the ladder and board out there through the growing season?
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Found some seed packets that are eleven years old. Any chance they'll grow?
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>>1027521
Depends heavily on species and storing condition. Just try it
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>>1027498
I'm using a grow-light for at least eight hours a day.
I was also dealing with fungus gnats, but I seem to have killed them off
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>>1027533
should be at least 12 hours
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do you guys plant zucchinis throughout summer or all at once? How long do they last again?
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>>1027658

4 to 6 plants is enough to feed a a family of 4.

So dont plant to many.
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Growing a Jalapeno for the first time I got for birthday from a friend in January.
The plant is growing just nicely and I have loads of fruit already.
But I'm not entirely sure when to harvest them. I was told they will stay green and the first two fruits pretty much maxed out already on growing.
Probably soon?
They are roughly 6cm now.
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Ripe jalapenos are a 4 - 6 inches long, fat, firm, and develop a bright sheen. They will turn a bright green, then begin to darken to a deeper green, then to black, and then to red. Jalapenos are ready to be picked when they are firm and bright green, but you can leave them on the plant all the way until they turn red.
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>>1027689
>>1027694
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>>1027694
Thank you for the description. I'll let them ripen more then.
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Should i remove the first flowers from pepper plants?
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>>1027702
If there are a lot and you want the plant to grow more then yes, otherwise this isn't really necessary
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>>1027517
I leave space between the rows but prefer to avoid walking in there as much as possible since the clay soil packs hard. The garden is 8 feet wide so I can do much of the weeding with a pole cultivator from each side. The last few years I've been using lawn clippings between the rows to keep the weeds down.
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>>1026831
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Anyone able to identify this little guy? Noticed him growing in my poorly weeded flower planting area this morning. Opening of flower facing away from direction of sunlight.
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>>1026901
Will he make it and catch up?
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>>1027798
Aquilegia fragrans ?
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>>1027806
Thanks floral anon
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What can I graft onto a (red I think) maple tree? I would like to avoid cutting down this little tree, but I don't want to let it grow to its full size as a maple where it is either.
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What's a cheap and effective material I can use to keep away bugs and birbs from my outdoors seedlings?
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>>1027740
Belgium.

Also, to snib, or not to snib? First flower pods have appeared, about a week after repotting, the stem is also turning woody, so it really needed the extra space.
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>>1027807
You're welcome, though you can wait for other answers cause I'm not sure. I just went through a list of flowers googling "floral spur"

>>1027885
You want to snip the flowers, or to top the plant? Are you planning to overwinter it?
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>>1027917
The flowers, this one has been topped twice already. I will keep it inside when it gets colder, hopefully as a bonsai, in a warm room with artificial light.
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>>1027851
You can get insect cloth that will keep bugs away. Birds are pretty large, though. I'm not sure if it will work on them as well.
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>>1027164
Nice.
What are you growing?
Also grow peppers, if you already do, grow some more.
You could add some gravel on the walkways to make it look even nicer
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>>1027179
Well like I said, I pic related for planting day, after I was done the sun came back out in full force, but I guess I should have hardened them off a little more (a bit busy in the weeks before, frequently not at home).
I postponed the planting for the second half by two weeks and hardened them a little more. They take the sun rather well now.
But nothing was entirely lost and they started to come back in force now.
>growing leafy middle fingers to flip off the sun like crazy
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>>1027942
I'd try to cut the flowers if I wanted it to grow some more. But honestly, once it wants to makes flowers, it's hard to stop it.
It seems to me flowers really slow down growing only when there are a lot (speaking about at least 1-2 dozen for a 30cm plant) and once they're opened or pollinated.

Anyway if you want fruits on your plant this year, keep in mind that it can take 2 months to go from flower to ripe fruit. I made the "mistake" of pushing too late the flowering stage on one of my peppers and only had a dozen of peppers this one time.
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>>1027967
It's an ornamental, it should grow many relatively small peppers. I guess I'll just let it be.
I might try to snip the bhut flowers a bit, would be nice to have enough of those to experiment a bit with.
Thanks for the input!
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>>1027949
Garlic, Carrots and parsnips at the back
Potatoes are the huge ones in the middle and in front of that I have some beetroot, sweetcorn, onions, a couple of tomatoes and some cauliflower which are getting eaten alive.

The bed on the right i have a few more onions and some salads like spinach and lettuce.

at the end of the year i'm going to change it a bit to have four long thinner beds like the one on the right with a small foot wide patch between.
I'd much prefer the accessability and not having to tread across the bed all the time.

Yeah definitely going to get some woodchips or something for the paths.

Tried peppers last year but I was a bit too late to get any success
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Any idea what's causing this?
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>>1027987
I had similar discoloration on some of my peppers, but it was only on the oldest leaves, the rest was fine.
Or did you mean the holes? No idea then.
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>>1026156
Looks like a cross pollination of a daisy and a xenomorph
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So I don't have any leaves or mulch (though I could rake some from the woods near me and shit), but I have an ass ton of """grass""".

I uprooted a bunch of the weeds and shit grass in my backyard and threw it on a pile for compost.

Should I make multiple small piles on the ground for compost, or make one giant pile and wait for that to degrade?

I'm a fairly new homegrownman so be patient with me here.
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Planted celery sproutlings 5 weeks ago. They have done fuck all. Whole rest of the garden is actively producing. Celery is lush green... and has not grown a single inch. Is this normal? Because I'm about ready to evict them from prime garden space.
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>>1028050
One giant pile will get hotter and have a better chance of killing the grass and weed seeds, which you want so that grass doesn't sprout up everywhere you use the compost.
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>>1028062
Thank you anon.

By the way is grass clippings and stary weeds "enough"?
I also throw in some stray leaves and wild "strawberry" plants in there too. I feel like every video I see says you need chicken shit or something.
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>>1028065
Anything plant-based works fine. Though, "proper" compost piles have a mixture of brown and green, as well as soil.
You might want to buy a small bale of straw from a local store and layer some of that in, along with some soil.
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>>1028067
Cool and good.

Do I need to put it in a separate contained stack or just make a big pile on the ground?
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>>1028076
>Do I need to put it in a separate contained stack
Please be more specific, I can't quite understand what you're asking.
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>>1028078
I'm sorry English isn't my first language.

Well I see people put it in a giant stack but with boards around it to contain the compost. The contained piles are away from all the dirt and stuff.

Couldn't I just put a big pile on the ground and not contain it? Would that change anything?
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>>1028095
I'm not sure what all the advantages of a compost bin are. I believe part of the reason people use them is that it looks nicer than just a mound.
You certainly don't need a bin to compost, however. Plenty of people just make a big pile on the ground and leave it like that.
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>>1028099
All right thanks.

Any other important tips for composting because I'm fairly new to this all like I've said.
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I have this wild blackberry bush growing the the woods near me. I want it in my yard so I don't have to trek all the way just to pick some fresh berries, but I don't know if that is legal or not.

Is it possible for me to snip off a droopy branch or two and grow it in my yard? Most of what I ready is that you need to hack off a piece of the stem with branches to propagate it.
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>>1028161
You're fine, anon. No one gives a shit about that unless you have some seriously anal retentive/nosy neighbors.
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>>1028163
It isn't really the neighbors I'm afraid of. It's the ((home association)) that got pissy when I painted my fences. The woods near me aren't that dense either and are two stones throws from someone's backyard.

Wat do?
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>>1028168
>Not allowed to paint your own fence
What the fuck?
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>>1028170
I know right I thought this was America.

I painted them redwood orange and the HA was like "it's an eyesore for people who want to move here" or some shit (because I live by the road).

I talked to the guy who represented them and convinced him to let me off because it isn't obvious to those driving past (backyard and all) and I already spent a week in the hot sun painting that shit so I'm not gonna repaint it.

Better than the moldy greens it used it used to have.
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>>1028172
>You are not allowed to paint your fence an ugly color because I think it's ugly
Wow. Land of the free indeed. I could see them stepping in if you had junk cars in your lawn or had uprooted all your grass or something, but over a fence color? God damn.
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>>1028176
>land of the free
It's what i get for living in the suburbs of DC. NoVa HA's can be super uptight because it's one of the most expensive places to live in the East Coast and they don't want to tarnish their image or whatever.

In fact I was getting dogshit for having a crap grass lawn, so I dug it up and sew new seeds and topsoil. Then I got shit for having a 5 by 20 yard of literal shit. Now (3 years later) it looks great.

>junk cars
Funny you mention that. My neighbor's back yard has literally 0 vegetation whatsoever. All rusted bumpers, ATVs, propane tanks, and cigarette buds. They're chill people but they live that the end of the line where everyone can see their house when they come into the cul-de-sac. Their front yard barely has grass because of the oak tree hogging all the ""soil"" (90% red clay where I'm at).
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>>1028107
You can buy red wiggler earthworms and toss them into the pile to speed up the process, a pound of worms can eat something like half a pound of organic matter per day.
You should also churn the pile every once in a while to get some air into it. If it smells bad/sour/rotting, you're not aerating it enough. That smell is from bacteria which flourish in low-oxygen environments.
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>>1028209
Thanks so much.
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>bought some apple mint plant last Friday
>it says it was grown in hydroponics
>bring it home, all the leaves shrivelled
Wat do? Was it because of the warm temperature? (because previously it was stored in the cold section of the store)?
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>>1028053

Celery is a marsh plant, so you might not be in the right climate for it.
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>>1025243

When did Kratky enter the OP pasta? All of a sudden I started seeing people using his method all over the place.
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>>1028161
Just be careful. They can get out of handle VERY quickly if you just put them in the ground.
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>>1027164

Allotment? Where do you live?
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>>1027844

Unless you're planning on living at that house for another 20 years, I wouldn't worry about it.
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>>1028436
Essex in the U.K
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>>1028528
>Essex in the U.K

Bas Vegas here.
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>>1028172
Pics of your fence/front yard?

Remind's of the Schrebergartenvereine here in Germany. Fuckers actually try to tell you what to plant, how much, etc.
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>>1028400
Did you kept in in a hydropinic system? Did you plant it?
Maybe it's just the shock from the relocation. Some plants take a couple of days (sometimes even weeks) to fully acclimate to a new environment.
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>>1027670
Not that guy. But I have 40 zucchini down. How much zucchini should I get?
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I got 2 tons(literally) of compost delivered the other day and noticed it had a slightly alkaline smell. Kind of bleach. It's allegedly made of cow manure, food waste and industrial waste (forestry stuff).

Anyway. How can I tell when compost is "finished" composting? I tilled some into my soil (heavy clay) and used the rest as a mulch got flower bed. The tilled stuff is doing great. The mulch appears to have completely burnt out a flower bed and some artichokes.
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>>1028589
three to nine pounds per plant.

So between 120 lbs to 360 lbs

lol i hope you have a big freezer.
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>>1028599
Sounds good. I have an arrangement with a local farmers market here in Japan. Most of my veggies are heirloom varieties from the west, so it's a nice change from the usual produce here.

Pic somewhat related. Can't grow in Japan without growing kabocha squash
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>>1028442

20 years no, but probably long enough that I want to try this experiment.
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I'm sorry, may be very off topic, but perhaps there is someone around who can identify trees, shrubs etc here.
/pol/ is looking for some pedo's, Europol has called the www to help.
>>>/pol/127990975
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Weird brown mold(?) in my strawberry pot, something to worry about?
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Half of my pepper plants are growing fast and the other half are really slow.

What causes this?

They are all next to each other and have the same conditions.
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>>1028693
Not really, but you probably are watering too much. Is there a drainage hole on the bottom of the pot?

>>1028696
Are these different varieties? What is the distance between each other?
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>>1028712
>Are these different varieties? What is the distance between each other?

5 of one variety
2 of one variety
and another 2 of a variety.

Im growing in large pots so spacing isnt an issue.
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Is onion, garlic, cayenne and soap soup for spidermites a meme? I've been spraying the everliving fuck out of my plant with it for two days and still seeing new bastards.
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>>1028738
Are these from different varieties growing differently, or is it independent of the variety?
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>>1028738
>>1028743
Even if the same variety grows differently, plants are all a little different from each other like any other life form.
Maybe some took the repotting better than others or maybe there are damaged leaves or it is just the individual plant.

But yeah it's most likely the difference in varieties.
Another issue could be pot size. Even if they have the same pots, some root a lot deeper and thicker than others, so they grow smaller than another variety would in the same pot.

>>1028696
What varieties do you grow?
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>>1028743

It seems to be independent
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>>1028741
I don't think cayenne would do anything. I had them on my peppers, leaves have far less capsaicin than fruits but still... I think capsaicin as insecticide is largely a myth, this is mostly a repellent to mammals.

Soapy water or shower isn't a bad idea to remove a large portion of them.
In the long run, the best way to keep them at bay is to raise humidity above 65% (frequently spraying water) because spidermites love dry ambiance.
Also, if you see some bugs that look like spidermites but are bigger (~1mm) with a quite round body and very quicker and mobile, don't kill them : they're probably Phytoseiulus persimilis, spidermites predators. These one love humidity.
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>>1028756
>What varieties do you grow?

5 basket of fire
2 apache f1
and 2 cayanetta.
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>>1028759
Then I agree with >>1028756 , that may just be individual variation
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>>1028763
Thanks! I see big long 1-2 mm ones sometimes. Like smaller grains of rice with spider legs.
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>>1028809
You're welcome, if you manage to take a pic that could also help. Generally "big" spiders are beneficial.
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rate my mass cane?

Had no green when i first got it, thought my aunt was trolling me with a piece of wood placed in a pot.
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>>1028759
>>1028767
The difference can be extreme sometimes. One of my Tabascos started flowering, another one just started to grow its first set of true leaves. I started them at the same time, from seeds that came from the very same plant.
tl;dr: Don't worry, it's normal and probably fine.

>>1028764
Apache F1 don't get too big anyway. But no worries, the suckers will yield in the high double digits even when grown in an empty pudding cup.
IIRC Basket of Fire is rather compact as well.
No idea about the Cayanetta though, never grown them but from the name I assume they are a C.Annuum, Cayenne-related variety? How do they grow so far?
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>>1028712
>Not really, but you probably are watering too much. Is there a drainage hole on the bottom of the pot?
There's plenty of drainage, but I might indeed have overwatered a bit. It's very hot out, and they're fruiting, I read they need more water then. I'll tone it down a little.
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>>1028869
Ah, the typical "lucky plant" (some variegated Dracanea). Got one too, even though it's sitting on a south window all year, it's a leggy piece of shit
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>>1028918
yours looks great! how do you care for yours? what kind of light and how often/much water?
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Are rotted leaves good for plants even when they haven't been properly composted?
I dumped out an old clay pot that hasn't been touched for years, and underneath the leaves on top it was filled with a thick black mud, which I assume are old decomposed leaves. They've just been sitting there all this time though, without aeration or anything.
The mud doesn't smell sour, at least.
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>>1027497
Avoid the fats and oils.
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>>1029038
They can retain a little too much moisture. I hold them in the same regard as newspaper. Fine to compost, but they don't decompose too much on their own
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Just brought home a new Venus flytrap. I live near the beach in so-cal weather. Any advice on care?
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>>1029124
What I mean is, they're already decomposed. It's a sludge, I'm only guessing that it used to be leaves because they're the only things that could have fallen in over the years.

My question is, does the fact that they received no aeration while decomposing mean that the stuff they turned into could make my plants/me sick?
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>>1029156

Yeah, throw it in your garden. It's the same thing that trees eat in the forest.
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>>1029156
Waste not,want not and all that jazz, but how bad do you need this unidentified sludge? You aren't going to get massive benefits from a little compost.
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>>1029188
I don't really need it, I just didn't want it to go to waste if I could help it.
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>>1029190
Not worth it if you can't say what it is.
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I have to transplant a struggling lemon tree where there is more sun. How can I increase it's chance of surviving? Considering: Planted from 5-gallon in the winter, temperature is about 90 degrees F and will get hotter, and new location is in almost full sun.
Should I wait until winter?
Cut it back and repot it?
Cut it back and replant it?
Replant, shade cloth, and baby it?
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>yesterday was the first day of winter

I enjoy walking through my garden and appreciate the fallen leaves from Japanese Maple, but not being able to plant shit is getting me down
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>>1029198
Why not plant some winter plants? There are snowy regions with green stuff, certain kinds of hard berries and whatnot.
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>>1029209
What kind of berries?
Most of the advice I receive in regards to winter growing tends to be: peas, spinach, garlic, peas, and peas.
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Can I post about the groundcover I am trying to nurture or is that /an/ shit?
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Anyone here a fig hobbyist?
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>>1029215
i like figging
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>>1029216
Not going to look that up. I'm assuming that doesn't have anything to do with collection fig varieties.
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>>1029212
Cranberries are evergreen, the unripe berries can tolerate temperatures down to 28 F and the ripe berries can withstand 23 F.
Arctic raspberry is noted for its unusual hardiness to frost and cold.
Crowberry grows in subarctic regions, and has been cultivated by Eskimos.
Lingonberries are native to Arctic tundra, and can tolerate temperatures down to -40 F.

While not a berry, alpine sweetvetch or "Eskimo potato" is also worth mentioning. It is native to tundra, and grows fleshy, potato-like roots. It is a common staple in arctic survival guides.
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>>1029234
thanks a lot for the information
I've got a lot of reading and research to do on all those later tonight
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>>1029235
Here's another handy thing I found, listing more arctic plants like herbs and leafy greens.
http://pubs.aina.ucalgary.ca/arctic/arctic6-1-15.pdf
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>>1028934
Almost no care at all desu, just water every couple days to a week when it's dry about finger deep.
As I said southern window, but the roof hangs over, so in summer when the sun is very high it doesn't get too much direct sun
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Diagnostic?
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what time of year are shallots started from sets in march usually ready to harvest?

Around early July isn't it?
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>>1029309
july/august yea
don't put much thoughts into it you'll have the green light once the leafs are dried up/yellow

what kind do you grow? It's my first time doing it and I chose the Red Sun one
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>>1029313

Im growing golden gourmet,
If all goes well im going to grow 4 times as much next year.

I love shallots.

> Red Sun one
What are those like?

Its my first time growing shallots also.
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>>1029313
Not him, but I have winter set onions. Instead of foliage dying back, some are bolting ;_;
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>>1029316
round type from the netherlands
from what they say it has good yield and good taste

mostly picked them because it's a "rustic" kind of shallot which appealed to me
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>>1029196
I think the repot for lemons is usually at the beginning of spring, you may be a little late. Though if the plant need it...
Also if you put it directly from shade to sunlight, it will suffer sunburns. It must be sun-hardened first.
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>>1029261
The pic quality makes it hard to tell.
Is it yellowing? Is the soil damp? If yes to both, probably over-watering
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>>1029323

Nice!
I just had a look over my ones and Some of my shallots are starting to bulb up.
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Hey guys, what do you think of my zucchini?
The larger one is getting slightly yellow… is that normal?
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>>1029329

Are you growing yellow squash nearby? They can cross pollinate
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>>1029329
Probably nothing, I wouldnt worry about it at this stage. Follow it and the plant. See if it changes or stays yellow. Could be some kind of nutrient deficiency or too much water (but also could not be at all?)

>>1029343
the flower is yet to open; so no cross pollination
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>>1029324
Not him, but in the first year of my lemon seedlings I had to repot them like 5 times, no problem
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When should I perform the snibbening on these perilla plants I want them to be bushy because you eat the leaves
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so yesterday while planting my zucchinis I dug up a cockchafer larva and put it elsewhere

now I was wondering, do cockchafer larvae do much damage to crops? My potatoes were nearby, could they eat that? Or are the adults the real troublemakers?
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Hey /out/, mars/hm/allow here.

I just revived a loquat tree from a friend. Any tips for how to grow it so that it can be as tall as it can be and produce fruit by next year. Are they hard to grow, any tips? I'm in South England, near Hampshire if you're wondering about climate
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>>1029502
>The larvae, known as "white grubs" or "chafer grubs", hatch after four to six weeks. They feed on plant roots, for instance potato roots.

toss all scarab grubs to the chickens desu
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>>1029552
oh well, I guess this one lucked out
I'm reluctant to fuck them up because they are already so scarce as it is
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MIGRATE WITHOUT SIN
>>1029564
>>1029564

MIGRATE WITHOUT SIN
>>1029564
>>1029564

MIGRATE WITHOUT SIN
>>1029564
>>1029564

MIGRATE WITHOUT SIN
>>1029564
>>1029564

MIGRATE WITHOUT SIN
>>1029564
>>1029564

MIGRATE WITHOUT SIN
>>1029564
>>1029564
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>>1029566
We are literally not even at the bump limit yet, dingus.
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>>1029214
Sure, seems relevant.
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>>1029579
Ah, it's 310 on this board, my bad. Cheers, dingus.
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>>1029619
New thread now?
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NEW THREAD
Find peace with gardening
>>1029824

Find peace with gardening
>>1029824

Find peace with gardening
>>1029824
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>>1029829
There's already a thread.
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>>1028559
Well that's German authoritarianism for ya.

I'm on vacation rn so I can't get a pic.
Sorry anon.
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>>1025913
>>1025914

thats so cool. Harvesting big quantities like that is so satisfying
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>>1025870
if your still around I top water mine. i use to bottom water in a pan and time it for 15 minutes but I lost one that way. I heard the secret to the matting is to use a synthetic material and measure the amount of water you add to the matt. african violets like it real dry. i went to a major violet greenhouse and they watered using blankets.
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riddle me this
I live in temperate climate (Germany/Poland border) and like three weeks ago while digging through my compost pile I found a walnut sapling with somewhat unusual shape. I transplanted it into a pot and it's growing and I'm thinking what should I do with it. Not interested in another walnut (got three really large ones on my property already) and I thought maybe I could take advantage of the shape and grow it into a miniature/bonsai?

I looked online and it seems walnuts are hard to grow that way but it looks there is a book
>Bonsai: From Native Trees and Shrubs by Werner Busch
that seems to have some information on the subject
anybody knows where I can download that?
That or anything of the kind, I'd be grateful.
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Ok, dfw guy here. This is my current balcony watermelon setup. 8 hrs direct sun a day. Already has little melons growing.

Its from seeds from my small watermelons I grew last year, same balcony.
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