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>tfw can't go /out/ and feel safe because I live in a

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>tfw can't go /out/ and feel safe because I live in a barbaric country that allows people to buy guns from walmart
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>>1015808
GTFO of FreedomLand then, you leftist cunt.
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>>1015808
Just have a gun too, or if you really feel uncomfortable with them then just move north.

I don't get the obssecion either but it's a granted right and people are free to exercise it.
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>>1015808
Worthless pussy
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>>1015808
>tfw can go /out/ and not have to worry about a drifter maniac stabbing me at my campsite because I have an AR I bought from wal-mart
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>>1015808
Yeah burgers are retarded they always bring up stabbings and stuff.

Someone who wants to stab you can't scout you out and shoot you from half a mile away while you can't do anything. I'd rather have someone have to get close to me to do something to me than have someone half a mile away be able to kill me.
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>>1015841
>getting scouted and sniped
>happens never
Cool idea, bro.
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>>1015808

You're fine, faggot.

No one is going to shoot you unless you're involved in illegal shit. Stranger murders are incredibly rare.
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>>1015841
More likely to get struck by lightning and then sexually assaulted by a bear immediately after
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>>1015845
This. 95% of all gun related deaths are by pistols. The other 5% are mostly Leo using assorted rifles/shotguns
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>>1015841
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Bodom_murders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_Girl_Scout_murders
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/Charge-Man-stabbed-homeless-camper-at-Woodland-11037352.php
http://www.denverpost.com/2007/08/13/camper-stabbed-girlfriend-dead-near-breckenridge/

Typical Euro to think the average person going for random murders is a good enough shot to shoot you from a half mile away, while a maniac with a hatchet will engage in mortal combat with you instead of splitting your skull while you're sleeping. At least if someone comes up to me at night, my dog starts barking and I'm ready to go pointing a gun instead of trying to get into a position where I can defend myself with my bare hands.
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>>1015808
Are you that samefag who posts everyday about psycho killers, malaria, and scared of own shadow? Just KYS already. I'll be so bold as to speak for everyone and say we've grown tired of your repetitive doom and gloom.
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Here's how I think about the whole gun thing: There isn't a single place on earth where the murderers DON'T have guns. People know that murder is illegal, so buying an illegal firearm isn't a problem for them. I'd rather be some place where everybody has guns rather than some place where nobody has guns. All the worst shootings happened in gun-free zones.

Also, I just realized that this is probably bait. Dangit.
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>>1015863
>The criminals would have guns anyway!
Always this bullshit excuse by murricans
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>>1015808
So, I looked up a notoriously bad neighborhood in the nearest big city. It's about as un-/out/ as it gets. Anyway, you're far more likely to be a victim there than in ANY /out/ scenario. How the fuck can you be so scared? You don't live in a ghetto or a favela and you're surely not headed there for an /out/ing. Pic related. Man up.
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>>1015871
>be Japan
>no one has guns
>except the fucking yakuza
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>>1015871
I'm Canadian m8. Prove me wrong.
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>>1015876
What's Japan like for going /out/? Isn't it pretty much entirely city and farmland?
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>>1015871

It's logical

Of course, if there's not as many firearms in circulation, the black market won't have as many

But then, they can just use a bladed weapon if they can't get a firearm; it works just as well for single murders and robberies

If you don't go /out/ because you're afraid law-abiding citizens can own firearms, then you need therapy.
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>>1015876
>Yakuza
>Commiting random murders
Not even that guy but you're more likely to get shot by your trigger happy cop in the US than by the fucking mob in Japan.
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>>1015895
This. High end criminals only use their weapons on other criminals. Redneck serial killers wouldn't be able to get guns if they were illegal, they have no connections
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>>1015897
>>1015895
I'm trying to say his point about "criminals having guns anyway" being bullshit is wrong.
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>>1015897
When have crazy redneck murderers ever been a thing? This isn't Texas chainsaw massacre.
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>>1015903

Almost never

Most stranger murders are usually robberies on the street or home invasions
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>>1015905

To add:

Stranger murders when /out/ tend to be someone stumbling upon an illegal operation

Drugs or trafficking humans across a border, or even fights over produce found, like Mushrooms
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>>1015897
Faggot despite what I said you're making lots of assumptions. I support gun ownership I just honestly think it makes a society safer, more guns in circulation obviously means more opportunities to accidents and bad shit happens, there's no denying that. It's just math, that being said you can choose freedom or safety, and I would always choose freedom.

But then again I don't think that guns make a society more free tho, in the US for example there's not really freedom, as soon as you collude with the State it will fuck you up sideways until you bleed out.
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>>1015909
>I support gun ownership I just honestly think
*I just honestly don't think
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>>1015909

Japan and Switzerland both have similar levels of murder, and their firearm ownership rates are astronomically different

The US has problems because of its Negroes; if you only include "white" Europeans, it's similar to the UK and other European countries in regards to murders.
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>>1015873
This isn't to be refute your point in any way, but Sherman Park isn't even that bad, comparatively. There are a lot of families and nice, well taken care of homes in the neighborhood. It's just well-known because of those riots last summer. It does border some of the worst areas, though, like Metcalfe Park to the south and the Burleigh Zoo immediately to the east.

t. Someone who lives off of Burleigh just far enough east to feel relatively safe but is still constantly looking over his shoulder day and night
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>>1015917
>>1015917
>The US has problems because of its Negroes; if you only include "white" Europeans, it's similar to the UK and other European countries in regards to murders
This triggers me because you can't do that, otherwise we would have to remove shitskin from european countries since they highly contribute to crime and murders there.

Also comparing Japan with it's 100M+ population to a country with 10 times less is very misleading, and even then Switzerland almost double the % per capita.
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>>1015947
>remove shitskins
Hey you might have something there
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>>1015923
Right on, fellow Wisc/out/. I just used it as an example. Sites like spotcrime.com and areavibes.com don't speak too highly of the area. A dozen shootings since last Friday isn't somewhere I'd feel safe, even armed. Those aren't law abiding citizens defending themselves either - more like savages taking what they can.
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>>1015841
>he's never been in a knife fight
Getting shot at wasn't near as bad.
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>>1015959
I understand. At the same time, sites like spotcrime misrepresent daily life. I stopped looking at the spotcrime for my area (riverwest, if you're interested to see for yourself) because despite the site showing copious amounts of crime, I've never had anything happen to me after living in the neighborhood for 5 years and regularly walking home from bars in the middle of the night unarmed. Half of my friends have been held up at gunpoint, but half of them are scrawny hipsters that make easy targets.
I don't know why I'm defending this place, though, I can't wait to move to a more remote location where I feel safe 100% of the time. Maybe the reason nothing has happened to me is because I'm hypervigilant at night and make a point to get to my destination without fucking around.
I live here because it's a cheap area with plety to do within walking/biking distance, but other areas of MKE are really nice and the city itself if good for someone like me, who likes city life enough to be immersed in it but goes /out/ regularly as well. There are plenty of nice places within day-trip distance from here
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>>1016004
>it hasn't happened to me so it doesn't happen
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>>1016009
Where did you get that implication you fucking mong?
The point is that vigilance and how you carry yourself can play a big part in whether you become a victim and that if you look at sites that report every single crime in a densely populated area then you are going to be unnecessarily paranoid. Nowhere did I claim that >hurr durr it hasn't happened to me that means it's fake news
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>>1015917
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>>1015836
It's also worth noting that the CDC also claims that "justified" shootings i.e. cops and self defence account for just over 1 thousand of the remaining deaths

the CDC also claims that just under 80% of homicides are gang related, on other gang members so if you're not a nig nog the chance that your death will be caused by firearms is
>0.08%
>.
>0
>8
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>having intentions to go into a predator infested wilderness
>"I'm scared of spooky rednecks with shitty Walmart guns"
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>>1015841
>half a mile away
>muw

I dont hike and camp on salt flats though
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>>1015808
>be murderer
>go killing in forest in a country with disarmed populace
or
>go killing in forest with armed populace

hmmmm really activated my almonds
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Im always afraid when Im alone in the woods at night I get kidnapped or something, and end up in a snuff film like three guys one hammer
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>>1015808
Cry more
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>>1015808
Not at my walmart. They lost their liscense.
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>>1015871
>be any third world country
>guns are heavily controlled by the government
>criminals rampage free everywhere because the police can't teleport itself
>get shot stabbed burned down, because you couldn't prevent it
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>>1016360
>criminals rampage free everywhere because the police can't teleport itself
i hope you are aware that US is way more crime-ridden than any other rich country.
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>>1015808

Nigga I wish I was in your place: I live in a country with no borders where any kind of criminal scum just walks in and they have all kinds of weapons but I can't have shit because "no funs" laws

Life sentence is 21 years and most these psychos don't get even that

2 french turist girls were raped then decapitated up north, nothing fucking happened, they never found who did it

I trade you any fucking day faggot
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>>1015871
>bullshit
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>>1016370
>no funs law

Top kek
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>>1016362
ONLY because of the niggers
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>>1016379
I'm not going to stay in this thread to follow the comming banther but you can always post pics of something like this from anywhere in the world, but the fact of the matter is that gun crime/voilence IS in fact rarely seen in the EU. Saying that because it still happens there is no argument what so ever to have restrictions on guns is dumb - a bit like saying that because any crime happens there's no reason to outlaw it.
Now the majority of the populations in the european countries are against people being able to have fire-arms outside of hunters, law-enforcers & etc., thats just a fact. So having those restrictions is just democracy working in the sence that they represent the what the majority of the people believe in: that society is safer with guns being restricted that not being.
A picture of gun crime on EU soil does not "disprove" that.
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>>1016439
>you can always post pics of something like this from anywhere in the world
My point exactly
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>>1015841
t. Call of Duty player
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>>1015808
Stop being such a faggot
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>>1015837
And so does he
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>>1015859
Tfw dog starts baking at nothing but you gotta look around anyway
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>>1016611
Yeah because drifter maniacs can totally afford ARs, right?
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>tfw can't go /out/ and feel safe because I live in a barbaric country that wont allows people to buy guns from walmart to protect ourselves, instead they have sold us the fairy tale of state protection


i hope your not american OP
because if you are, fuck you, you have one of the most fundamental rights not yet taken away from you yet

STOP CRYING ABOUT HAVING RIGHTS
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>>1015897
Unless they just build them in their fucking garage like biker gangs in Australia do.

Do you realize how simple something like an open bolt smg is to make? Rednecks would be exactly the type of people that would just build illegal guns, not to mention there are literally hundreds of millions of guns already in the us those same rednecks would just bury or otherwise hide instead of giving to the police, you dipshit.
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>>1015808
>Fear is reaction to unknown
>Get trained; get gun; realize fear is undeserved
>Know little fear when Yogi comes to check in on your armed self
>If Samsquanch comes, then you have permission to soil shorts
>Get new bait. I took it off the hook while distracting
>Tastes
>Weak bait is surprisingly effective
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>>1016439
You're confusing being safer from gun crime with being safer from crime overall. No shit taking away the guns lowers gun crime. Taking away cars would lower car accidents too, but it wouldn't necessarily change your odds of dying in a transportation accident.
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>>1016630
I mean, fuck, all you need to make a
MAC-11 if some sheet metal, a drill press, and an arc welder.
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>>1015841
More people are stabbed to death every year then are shot with rifles. FBI statistics prove this.
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>>1015871
Is that why cops are confiscating full auto sub guns in AUS from criminals?
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>>1015808
Hey at least you can get a gun yourself.
Here only cartels and corrupt cops have guns.
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>>1015808
How big of a pussy are you, holy shit
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>>1016439
>you can always post pics of something like this from anywhere in the world, but the fact of the matter is that gun crime/voilence IS in fact rarely seen
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>>1015808
Either this is bait or you have a legitimate phobia, as in irrational fear, of guns.

You're more likely to get killed in a car accident or stabbed or even just beat to death as long as your idea of going /out/ isn't taking a walk through Compton or Chiraq.

All memes aside, just go a range and get over it. If you're in Eastern Iowa I will take you to a range and let you shoot my guns to help you get over being such a massive bitch.
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>>1016793
I'm not a pussy just because I never fired a gun
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>>1015841

>not sniping canadians a mile in from the us border.
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>>1015847
Or unless he mistakes you for Bigfoot and then shitposts on /k/ about how he shot a skinwalker
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>>1017094
Not counter snipping Americans with the glorious Barrett rifle
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>>1017042
I never said you were. I said youre a bitch with a phobia and the only way to get over it is to meet it head on. Being so afraid of guns you don't want to go innawoods is completely irrational.
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>>1017112

Legit question, but im pretty sure the answer is yes. Yall can have .50bmgs correct?
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>>1015841
>Someone who wants to stab you can't scout you out and shoot you from half a mile away

I don't know about you anon, but I sure as fuck can't reach out 900 yards and hit a target reliably or with any group under 30 inches. Add to that all the obstacles and a moving target and you have yourself one hell of a marksman to be able to pull it off.

Plus what's the thrill in killing something just to look at it through a spotting scope then bugging the fuck out because of a murder charge.

As far as OP is concerned I hear they have tight gun laws and pretty country down in southern Mexico. Maybe you should go down there and tell me how safe you feel walking along the cocoa trees.
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Lmao /lefty/ gets BTFO'ed by logical /k/ browsers
Thank you GOD - I LOVE YOU ALL.
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>>1017155
You wouldn't ever use it.
.338 is an objectively better option.
.50BMG is a fucking anti-material round, and not worth the money on anyone.
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>>1015808
non-american detected
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>>1015808

You're more likely to get robbed, or shot, at the drive through, than you are out in the forest.

If you feel that threaten, take a gun with you. Once you start sending bullets back at some one, you're no longer some easy prey, reality sets in for them.
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>>1016037

FBI backs up your claims too.
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>>1015808
I really want to like /out/ but faggots like this ruin it for me.

School shooters don't come from the woods anon.
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>>1017042
Your a pussy because you're afraid of going innawoods because guns exist
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>>1017112
We can get those too. . .
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>>1015808
Well I have red enough stories of creepy people in the woods. No harm in owning a gun.
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>>1015808
If some random armed person in the woods shoots you it's because you deserved it
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>>1015808
Tfw delusional faggot. sage
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>>1017271
>.50BMG is a fucking anti-material round, and not worth the money on anyone

.50BMG is roughly the same price as .338lm if your buying in bulk, and at least around here, it is pretty standard as your first reach out and touch something gun. Its harder to fuck up when you have an extra 500 grains to work with mass wise, which makes the bmg much more ideal to work with for beginners or anyone who plans on firing through thick obstructions such as all the brush on the border.
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>>1017112

>Not counter sniping Canadians with a 20mm rifle.
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>>1015871
>excuse

Is there a place where they don't have guns?
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>>1015897
> Redneck serial killers

How is CNN not capitalizing on covering these rampant "Redneck Serial Killers?"
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>>1015849
how did you find out my fetish?
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>>1015808
All this "if you tread on me I'm gonna cap yo ass" is just manchild bluster. None of you has ever had to fire "muh gunz" for actual self-defense. Its just your fucking viagra, bunch of pussies.
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>>1015808
Don't worry.
Black people hate camping.
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>>1015897
Ah yes, all those redneck serial killers that surely must exist because otherwise your ideology would be fucking retarded
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>>1016627
Could have stolen it
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>>1015808
GET A GUN

DONT BE A MANLET KEK

GET FRIENDS WITH GUNS

FUCKOFF YOUR LIBERAL ARTA DEGREE THAT I OAID FOR TO THE FIRST SHITSKIN HELLHOLE
2 SCOOPS 2 GENDERS 2 TERMS ART OF THE DEAL WITH IT KEK!
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>>1015841
Its not likely there is a wondering maniac just pooing caps u dipshit. Like one or 2 a year out of 300 milliob fuckibg people
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>>1015845
Let alone if i am a murderous psycho. Gee.... i cant buy a gun and lunch meat at the same store. Guess i will call someone else.

Fucks sake carying a sidearm should be mandated. The left is so full of snowflake cuck dildo wielding sjw scum maybe a good few hundred rounds of 7.62 downrange and a freedom chubby will keep their fuckibg degenerate faggotry in check.
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>>1015863
>cough CHICAGO AND DETROIT cough.

>b8. ....never talk to me or my son again
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>>1015871
HOW IS A GODDAMNED FACT AN EXCUSE FAGGOT.

WE HAVE BEEN GIVING EVERY SWINGING DICK 27 GUNS EVERY DAY SINCE FUCKING 1776 OR WHATEVER.


HOE THE FUCK U FIGURE A BUNCH OF LEFTEST PUSSIES CRYIBG BECAUSE THEIR VAGINA ITCHES AND TELLING US TO TMHAND OVER OUR GUNS THAT HMWE BOUGHT WITH AFTER 50% TAX DOLLARS IS GONNA WORK.

seriously. U fuckibg jerkoffs over the pond getting arrested with fingernail clippers and swuirrel hunter .4 inch bladed kbives are so fucking nieve.


Hillbilly or not most of us Freedomlanders were born and gifted a gun just for existing. Litterally nobody i know remembers the first time they shot a gun.

One of my favorite past times is shopping the single shot cricket line of .22 with my friends for their 4 year old kids.

Its as much a way of life here as fucked up giant gap teeth and ungly bitches fucking your muslims are over there.

Everyone and their dog has 12 guns. U really wanna be the odd guy out "i believe in being nonviolent."

Cool ghandi. I believe in peace through superior firepower.

Fuckoff you eastern cucks.
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>>1015895
>dont bail out the car acting a fool
>dont be holding shit
>do wtf the cop says


I have worked CLOSELY with law enforcement mybentire life and thos has litterealy never happened anywhere in the tri state area.

Fucking hell. Quit with the hiff post abc and cnn liberal media cuckhold fairytales and look at the facts.

Fuck. The only reason i aint a cop is because when one of these liberal cucks atart their shit i can drag them outside by their shirt and crack them a half pulled back right jab in the jaw and they run away crying. At least 1 time a month like clockwork.

>go to bar with maga hat
>hirrdurr fuck donald trump
>sir we are both entitled to our opinion. I kindly ask you one time to please leave me alone and allow me to enjoy a drink with my friends.
>5 minutes latter
>hirr durrrrrrr fuck donald trump and fuck u.
>finish beer
>5 shots of jack and another beer
>pound them and snatch the cuck up and march outside.

Not even kidding have yet to have one fucking fight me.

Dont even like fighting. Hate disrespectful cucks that think freedom of speech means they atent responsible for the bullshit they say.
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>>1015897
He thinks i cant make a gun out of trash...
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>>1015903
About 1 trucker a year or some tweaker on meth.
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>>1015917
I dont know why people wont fucking listen.

Its not about the laws.

Sweden and japan have always been pretty strict.

There is a roofer in texas whobis doing 10 tines the busibess because he gives you an AR with every roof.

If the law changed we would just hide our guns.

It is too late.

We all have like 30.
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>>1015960
Been shot and stabbed.

>shoot at me bro!
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>>1016120
Sgitty walmart shotgun will pray and spray an entire camp anon.

Mine holds 5 rounds and i put maybe 3,000 rounds through it. I jam...
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>>1016370
My buddy was in prison for murder for 3 years. Bar fight went south. He doesnt have much good to say.

Dont be a tourist female unarmes with a bunch of shitskin rapists roaming the streets...
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>>1016630
This this 1.4 trillion times this. Fucks sake anon gets it
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>>1017112
Haha! You yankee cucks can't shoot into America. Our freedom holds back cucks.
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>>1020307
From texas...
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>>1020449
To busy with

HERE'S HOW BERNIE COULD STILL WIN!


TRUMP PEES ON PEOPLE AND HAS TINY HANDS.

2 SCOOPS omfg
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>>1015871
Except for all those south american countries where guns are totally illegal, yet they have thousands of shootings a year.

Yep. If guns were illegal all those criminals that have illegal guns now would magically turn them in, better make something doubly or triply illegal (and then give them well below minimum sentences when they're inevitably caught anyway for "image" because they're inevitably poor or black or some other pitied minority)!
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>>1015883
It's pretty mountainous. There's a lotta /out/ for how small the country is.

Also, it's a series of fucking islands. Boating/swimming/diving is huge.
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>>1021600
So basically
>itsfuckingnothing.jpg
>>1015903
Pretty much isn't.

Stranger murders are:
>innacity: gang initiations or muggings gone south
>innaburbs: teenage tweaker sketches out new dealer, gets capped/stabbed
>innawoods: hiker stumbles on grow-op, gets machete'd
Less than a tenth of stranger murders involves firearms (the #1 murder weapon used in stranger murders is a pocketknife btw, since the #1 source of stranger murders is inner-city muggings)
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>>1015808
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>>1021411
Lol, I always love this retarded penile projection antigunners always do. Funny how you're all constantly thinking about dick.

And no shit people talking shit online is all bluster. Nobody in the right mind wants to shoot somebody, even if only because of the legal headache it gets you in. Nobody buys a gun hoping they have to use it on somebody. Stop talking to shithead 13 year olds over xbox live and talk to real people.

>None of you has ever had to fire "muh gunz" for actual self-defense.

I've never been in a car accident either but I still wear my seatbelt too. I guess seatbelts are my Viagra then?

Just because you're willing to be a victim doesn't mean people that aren't have something wrong with them.
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OP is gay
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Everyone seems to think OP is just afraid of people with guns but I think he was referencing how most land isn't safe to explore due to the amount of hunters in the south.
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>>1022066
(You) are not satistically relevant. Ask how many anons have been in a car accident. You are equating the prevention of a true possibility with prevention of fantasy.

All it is even more laughable when you progunners try to use statistics of how little gun violence occurs to justify your right to have guns.

Defend your self, my ass. You live scared of your shadow.
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Buy a gun from Walmart instead of being a scared little bitch
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>>1015808
>go outside all the time in praries, woods, and mountains far from civilization
>not worried about people owning guns because I'm not a fucking pussy
>carry my own protection while out because I'm not a libtard displaced Californian who thinks wildlife won't ever hurt you
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>>1022142
yeah..no
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>>1015859
The problem is that guns won't help in the
>random maniac stabbing tent
scenario. You can have a deagle brand deagle and you'll still die because
>killed in your sleep
or
>stabbed in the back
>>
>>1015841
Right dude! Call of duty is so rad!
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>>1016611
Cool, id rather be in a gun fight then a knife fight
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>>1021411
>>1022305
Tons of videos showing men and women defending themselves and their families from burglars and attackers. You're being willfully ignorant.

>inb4 omg breeders lol
I know you're the same anon cuckboi
>>
>>1022305

I literally laughed out loud.

>How dare you use statistics when I'm making decisions based solely on my emotions!

I didn't really need more proof you antigunners are retarded, but thanks for the reinforcement.

>Defend your self, my ass. You live scared of your shadow.

Maybe if you keep projecting like this I'll go dump all my guns in a lake, keep it up!
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>>1022447
All antigunner politicians are "guns for me but not for thee" assholes. Pic related, and Senator Feinstein had a fucking CCW permit at one point, all while she was making it impossible for her constituents to get one. They're more than happy to leave you unarmed while they get armed security paid for by you and me.

Gun control is people control by politicians, and any members of the public going along with it are sheep.
>>
>>1015808
>be Canadian
>don't have to worry about anyone shooting me when I step outside
>don't have to carry gun around because I delusionally think the world is out to kill me and my family
Feels great
>>
>>1021587
So this makes no sense. You're saying that the main purpose of having guns is to counter people with guns. Then if everyone had no guns you won't have to carry a gun around either.
>>
>>1015859
Dog barking
Wake up
Can't see shit
Turn off safety
Cock gun
Maniac stabs you to death
>>
>>1015876
Yakuza uses katana lol wtf are you even from japan
>>
>>1022853
Good for you. I'm glad you're happy with whatever the police response time is in your area, hopefully you never need them in seconds when they're only minutes away.

>>1022854
That guy is a retard.

The reason you carry is to give yourself an advantage in a life or death fight. Even if you could magically make all guns disappear and somehow prevent people from making them, that doesn't make you safer. If you're smaller, a less experienced fighter, or just plain outnumbered by people attacking you, a weapon is really the only thing that gives you a chance. And in the real world, the bad guys get guns anyway no matter how illegal they are.
>>
>>1022856
Dog barking
Wake up
Grab gun out of trigger guard covering holster that's tied to the nightstand
Shoot intruder

Wow.
>>
>>1022863
And why would I need them in seconds? Nobody is going to shoot me, or even lay a hand on me. And if they were going to kill me I wouldn't have time to react with a gun anyway. What kind of situations would I be in for that to happen?

Life isn't cowboy movie, you're not going to shoot the bad guys and ride your horse into the sunset

>>1022865
Stop living in the ghetto
>>
>>1022917

>And why would I need them in seconds? Nobody is going to shoot me, or even lay a hand on me.

You hope. Saying that like it's a fact is beyond retarded. Unlikely != impossible. How unlikely of an event you plan for is up to you, I choose to go up to the point of carrying a gun. Some people make their homes into fortresses and others have unprotected sex with aids patients, it's all up to them. Just don't try and tell other people what they can and can't do.

>And if they were going to kill me I wouldn't have time to react with a gun anyway.

Again, you're saying that like it's a fact when it's not. Every situation is different. A gun isn't a get out of jail free type of trump card gaurunteed to save you, but likewise it's not gaurunteed to be useless either.

What kind of situations would I be in for that to happen?

Unforseen (but luckily unlikely) violent ones? Pretending they don't happen is willful ignorance.

>Life isn't cowboy movie, you're not going to shoot the bad guys and ride your horse into the sunset

More projection. Yawn.
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