What does /o/ think of Lexus as a brand? >Fresh, Sporty Styling

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>>17852690

Hi lexus shill

better than Audi but that's not hard

>>17852690
>fresh sporty styling
their designs are atrocious

>top reliability and safety
ok

>owned by toyota
literally irrelevant, belongs in previous statement with the safety nonsense.

>good resale
if you say so

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>>17852706
did someone say lexus shill?

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>>17852706
I am. But how could you not be? The back of that LC500 makes my dick hard

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I owned two new generation Lexus (still own one) and I find their cars to be very nice and with a lot of personality (I love the fact that they polarize the opinions), but there are few things I can't accept anymore:

>third world tier infotainments, really fuck Toyota
>need to learn how to do decent suspension setups (maybe ask Alfa Romeo for that)
>stop being autistic and using 80s parts that you can find on literally every japanese car both premium or non premium (see the motherfucker in pic related)

>>17852714
Styling preferences are subjective, but you have to admit that the newer models have improved greatly over the early 2000's ones. Reliability and safety are some of the most critical factors in buying a car, and lexus is the cream of the crop.

>>17852690
>>Fresh, Sporty Styling
Subjective but the grill is fugly
>>Top reliability and safety ratings
Irrelevant. Porsche and MB are reliable as Lexus. Others are catching up.
>>Owned by Toyota
Cool. I am impressed that Toyota managed to create $100K LS from the $25K Prius platform aka TNGA.
>>Fair depreciation curve, good resale
Not true anymore. Times have changed.

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>>17852722

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>>17852733

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>>17852733

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>>17852727
>>stop being autistic and using 80s parts that you can find on literally every japanese car both premium or non premium (see the motherfucker in pic related)
Toyota doesn;t give a shit about you.

>>17852739
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>>17852733
>>17852724
>>17852722

samefagging

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>>17852732
>MB is as reliable as Lexus

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>>17852746
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>>17852690
Styling is decent, I hate their dash/center console designs but I hear lots of people say positive things about them so who knows. Beyond that, they're slow and have no manual transmissions.

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>>17852746

>>17852709
every luxury brand is better than audi. Even cadillac since they're at least rwd

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>>17852749
>triggered by Germans are getting better than his precious nip cuckbox.

Buyer's remorse?

>>17852752
>>17852756
kek

>>17852740
>t. cuck who likes to be told what he has to do and buy

>>17852760
nah, Acura exists

>>17852755
You are right that having no manual transmission is a downside, but personally I find the shiftable automatics to be more fun and fitting for a luxury car. And they are quite slow, but you don't buy a lexus for a good lap time.

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>>17852760
>>17852709
Are you mad that Audi getting into the top 3 luxury manufacturers in the world?

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>>17852791
>Audi
>luxury

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>>17852761
Why is Fiat so fucking shitty? Why aren't they out of business?

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>>17852796
>that forced meme
boring

Always liked Lexus and think they make quality cars.


The LC 500 is one of the best looking luxury in the last few years. Saw one in person their stunning

>>17852803
at least Lexus knows a luxury flagship vehicle should be RWD-based

>>17852805
Fuck I hope that they depreciate to an affordable amount in the next several years. I would wait a decade to pick up a LC 500. They are so fucking nice especially with the tan leather interior and 10 speed shiftable automatic.

>>17852807
>What is the r8

How does it feel to be stupid?

>>17852826
>>What is the r8
an Italian supercar that they somehow managed to turn into an audisteering pig, that's what

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>>17852807
>Lexus knows a luxury flagship vehicle should be RWD-based
And Audi is faster than that.

>>17852830
>what is having the entire automotive press in your pocket
VAG is literally the most corrupt company in automotive history, don't fall for their lies

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>>17852828
>Audi r8
>Italian
Lol, confirmed for being utterly stupid

Besides, the current a8 is rwd based, you seriously need to stop sucking so much cock anon

>>17852838
the R8 is literally a Huracan with a stretched wheelbase and worse suspension tuning

and the current A8 is on the (FWD-based) MLB platform

>>17852844
>has to resort to GTRposting
glad to see you admit Audi can't compete

Until they change the grill, the answer is always "shit".

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>>17852690
If they stop making their retarded grille, they'll look a lot better. Yes, it's a but Toyobaru, but I don't see the problem, Toyobaru is kinda pretty

>>17852800
To be the villain, they can afford to be because we need them to be

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>>17852831
Oh... I remember the rumor about that Jeremy Clarkson got paid for shilling LFA and GS-F.

Then Toyota is literally the most corrupt company in automotive history, don't fall for their lies.

>>17852862
Maybe because Toyota and Subaru are my favorite brands, I've become such a Lexus shill. Personally I think the grill is great but they could surely improve to appeal to more people.

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>>17852856
Except the huracan was designed by audi and then rebdged as a lamborghini

You are one dumb cuckold

>Current a8
>Fwd based
Nope, which trim is fwd?

>Audi cant compete
Some anon just posted an image that shows the r8 being faster than the LC, are you really this stupid?

>>17852690
C A T F I S H
G R I L L E

Worst looking car in 50 years.

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>>17852877
Sorry to hear

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>>17852828
>muh audisteering pig
le ebin maymay. R8 can turn. The rebadged R8, Lamborghini Huracán Performante equips the AWD system, which is exact as Audi cars' ones, completed a lap at Nürburgring in 00:06:52:01 setting a new record for best lap and becoming the fastest standard production car in the world.

>>17852768
actually you're right, sorry mate, sometimes I just get excted about Lexus

>>17852796
You can't get FWD A8 in US. All them are AWD.

>>17852883
>>Current a8
>>Fwd based
>Nope, which trim is fwd?
the entire MLB platform is engineered with FWD in mind, therefore FWD-based

>Some anon just posted an image that shows the r8 being faster than the LC
there's no R8 in >>17852830

>>17852891
except Audi stretched the wheelbase and tweaked the suspension on the R8, and the Huracan Performante has (Lamborghini-developed and patented) active aero which helps its handling immensely
the main complaint in every review of the R8 is how much it understeers compared to the Huracan

>>17852901
>MLB platform
still FWD-based

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>>17852904
If it is FWD-based, and it is still faster than most cars and especially to your cars. lol

>>17852904
>Cant post a fwd a8
Sperg more

>There is no r8 in >>17852830
Holy fuck its true! Its the s8, which according to your dumbass its fwd

>Toyota's supercar cant even beat a fwd sedan
BTFO!!

>except Audi stretched the wheelbase and tweaked
Except this is wrong and you are a dumbass

>Still fwd based
Post a fwd a8

Sperg more and stay BTFO

audi can actually win Lemans aswell

>>17852844
you're comparing a grand tourer to a GTR. that's like comparing an SC400 to an F40 just because they both have fours and zeroes in their name.

>>17852928
S P E R G M O R E
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>>17852904
>the Huracan Performante has (Lamborghini-developed and patented) active aero
VAG still owns this patent.

>>17852796
>>17852807
>>17852828
>>17852831
>>17852856
>>17852904
>being this much of a colossal retard

>>17852761
As a long-time Mopar cuck turned Toyota cuck, I always wondered about this. Chrysler engines, from my experience, are fucking tanks. The problem is the vehicles fall apart under your. Their electric transmissions were also complete dogshit till about the mid 2000's. Other than that, they've been pretty reliable for me.
Now, having been driving Toyota, I can see a clear difference in all the other stuff; current vehicle is over 10 years old-no squeaks, rattles, weird noises, nothing breaks, no rust. Engine-wise though, no big difference. The Toyota seems easier to do basic maintenance on yourself; better designed engine bay.

>>17852830
Shouldn't the Audi S8 Plus compare to the GSF? And there's still a $30,000 gap in their prices at base.
>S8+ starts at 115k
>GSF starts at 85k

>>17853130
>GSF
I heard it is pretty slow. Jeremy Clarkson said it is good and fun, but not fast as Germans.
>inb4 Jeremy Clarkson received paid for shilling GSF meme
I know... I don't care.

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They are capable of nice things, but they put so much money into research and development on the nice things that then never see a return on their money.

>>17852690
I think their styling is fucking atrocious, their interiors are pretty bland unless it's a concept car or absolute top of the line model with a million optional extras.

They rank among the absolute worst when it comes to depreciation in my country, often around 10% worse per year than the german equivalents.

Owned by Toyota doesn't really matter, the difference in reliability is negligible compared to the germans where I live.

>>17853164
IIRC they're going to release an F version of the LC that'll probably cost around R8 money and compete.

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>>17853164
It was a flop.

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>>17853178
opp wrong pic

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>>17852690
I feel like many people get hung up over pic related, but what really bothers me is that Toyota started moving their performance lineup to that brand.

>>17853178
>DRIVE FUCK YOURSELF
Lmfao

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>>17853178
>Pajero means wanker

>>17853185
i dont understand the point your making on it being a flop. If you want to make your point to why it was a flop it may come in handy if you post the actual whole article not just a crop of the first page of the Arthur himself saying the car is amazing, which pretty much contradicts your point in the first place.
Just cause the car cost to much to make and they didn't break even on it does not mean the car is not good.

>>17853230
>didn't break even
Doesn't VW lose money for every Bugatti built? Can hardly call that a flop...

I'm pretty sure >>17853178 is full of shit (given his filename too)

>>17853187
Very true. I'm glad that the supra is rumored to be revived soon so Toyota will have another performance offering that isn't a lexus. Hopefully it won't be a flop like the NSX (arguably) was.

>>17853237
>Doesn't VW lose money for every Bugatti built? Can hardly call that a flop...
Just Veyron but Chiron is a money printer now.

>>17853254
Oh, well good for them.

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>>17852690

Really the only luxury marque to bridge the gap from reliable economy car to high-end performance and accoutrements.

Let's look at the competitors:

Cadillac? Shit these days, the ATS and CTS are boring trash - even the V.

Lincoln? Fuddy garbage with mallcrawler styling and mediocre reliability.

Acura? Lol people still buy Acuras?

Buick? Sure, great cars if you're a nigger pro-athlete.


Ford should have kept Cougar and turned it into a performance luxury marque - the branding would've been great and they could've made something really aggressive and fun to compete with the F-sports. Instead they make blobbish plastic junk for boring baby boomers.

>>17853237
yes, but V.W and Toyota have so much money they go into these vehicles knowing they will not make their money back off them in hopes it brings eyes to their brand as a flag ship car to help sell the lesser vehicles, also they are some sort of a science project in hoping the technology they develop in these flag ship cars will end up trickling down to the other lower level vehicles in time.

>>17853230
>it took decades for them to make LFA
>$500K lexus
>It is not fast as others at its release time.
>$500K lexus
>There are many unsold LFAs sitting at dealerships across the country
>$500K lexus
>Lexus shut down production in 2012. Apparently, a Lexus sales report from July 2017 came with a fascinating statistic behind it: an LFA was sold last month.
>$500K lexus
>a forgettable "super"car
>$500K lexus

>>17853294
>MSRP was $375k
Already you're bullshitting

Also, can you show me one of those "unsold" LFAs? Because here in Europe the used ones are selling for between $550k and a million.

>>17853268
>that bulge
NANI?!

>>17853315
There were a few articles around a month ago listing the fact that there were a dozen or so unsold LFAs around the USA. This is misleading, however, because many of them are not exactly for sale.

>>17853326
Okay, but if some of them are for sale, surely they must be advertised? And if they've been sitting unsold for 5 years they're probably keen to get rid of them, so I should be able to buy one at least at MSRP.

There's one (1) LFA for sale in the UAE for $645k, so I would love buying one of these new ones that >>17853294 is talking about, exporting it to the UAE and selling it for almost twice the MSRP.

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>>17853317

She's an Olympic gymnast, her pussy alone can probably crush a walnut. Those are just her cunt muscles.

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>>17852690

Toyota++ reliability

Modern styling might grow on me over time, but at the moment its a bit too edgy

Absolutely love the old early 2000s IS

6-inline FR
Sleek styling
Comfy
Gauge cluster

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>>17853315
>Already you're bullshitting
Nope.

>Just 125K trim
hahaha

>>17853357

Why does it have "M" as well as "3, 2, L"

That seems redundant.

>>17853358
>moving the goalposts
>still not actually $500k

You didn't even provide a link to the "many unsold LFAs"

0 credibility, wish you would trip so I could filter you.

>>17853294
>it took decades for them to make LFA

Hand-built for two years, only one LFA was built each day, it also took so long cause they were not happy with the finished product, why would they push out a product they are not happy with also part of why it took so long is cause they built a whole separate facility to build the vehicle in.

>$500K lexus

The car was $375,000 and now are selling for around $400,000, however you can find one in flordia for 269k. so for the most part the car is holding its value. And if they do go down in price i would be more then happy to buy one. A n/a v10 tuned by yhamaha that screams to 9500 rpm, ya anon that sucks. kek

>a forgettable "super"car

Me and many other people love the car. No one is forcing you to buy one anon


https://youtu.be/le8GOMn0Y6s

https://youtu.be/2F4AoE19pfc

>>17852928
Sperg more Toyocuck, the GT-R is a grand tourer, its fucking maned GT-R

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what is a sport sedan with a v8 and 380+ hp that is under 18k

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>>17853470
pic sedan-related

Why didn't they just call the LC the SC?

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>>17853470

>>17853344
>I should be able to buy one at least at MSRP.

Good news, there is a cheapest LFA in Florida where a flood occurs sometimes.

http://gtspirit.com/2016/12/01/2012-lexus-lfa-sale-269000-florida/

is the rc any good?

>>17853383
>triggered toyocuck refuses reading the screenshot
That's your problem.

>many unsold LFAs
The Lexus LFA was never going to be a hot-selling supercar. https://artofgears.com/2017/08/12/lexus-lfa-supercar-12-new-unsold-dealer-usa/

Dozen sitting unsold for 5+ years. This happens in US. I wonder about the world. I bet a lot.

>>17853400
>The car was $375,000 and now are selling for around $400,000
see >>17853358

There was a 500K trim. kek

>>17853478
>TFW these things are 55k burger bucks if you can even find one

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>>17853665
You managed to disprove both your retarded points with the link you very handily provided me with. So thanks for that.

Now fuck off.

>>17853486
This is not a even remotely sporty.

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>>17853357
The TRD gauge cluster is so much cooler. I wish it came in MPH

>>17853675
It was $465k if you wanted to spend $20k on making it black. Nurburgring package brought it up to $445k.

The latest used sell price I could find for an LFA Nurburg is $580k and that was in 2014.

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>>17853687

umm no...

>Special Edition LFA Brings Price Tag Closer To $500K
>The even more limited edition Nürburgring Package will run $465,000 thanks to a $70K sport package and $20K matte black paint.
It is closer to 500K

>>17853687
>likely

>>17853710
It's closer to 500k, it's not 500k. They're still selling for more than MSRP now.
>replying with a gif
Are you a 14 year old girl?

>>17853712
Again, the burden of proof lies on you. You've provided me with an article contradicting your claims. Show me one of these "unsold LFAs" that was actually meant to be sold or fuck off.

>>17853726
>triggered LFA shill

kek see >>17853709

>>17853710
>$20K matte black paint
Nip jewed the lexuscucks so hard. Pathetic.

>>17853728
10/10 reply, fantastic arguments

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>>17852690
Pretty cool. I like their exterior designs for the most part, and the visual design of their interiors are top notch. Just get rid of the stupid mouse infotainment navigation, and replace it with a touchscreen. I really like it how the screens are integrated into the dash, instead of lazily slapped on top of it. I do like the grill lexus has been going with, because it's so different and still sporty with a touch of elegance. All in all, it's currently a pretty great brand if you ask me. Would be cool to see if they can make something even more high performance than the LC 500.

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Lexus and Genesis or the only good luxury brands

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>>17853802
>Genesis
I'm genuinely surprised that I like it as much as I do. This color is amazing, and the front end design is a bit like the MKZ, but sportier. I really like the color in this picture. The interior is pretty good, but I don't like the asymmetrical vents.

>>17852805
>>17852815
this, they are beautiful in person. definitely one of the best looking cars made in the past few years. high end lexus tend to not depreciate fast though.

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>>17852690
Pure unadulterated deliciousness.

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>>17853470

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>>17852815
>they depreciate to an affordable amount in the next several years.
You will get it next two or right now.
>>17854189
>high end lexus tend to not depreciate fast though.
False. Not anymore. They are same as others.

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>>17854261
I like how this anon skips the part saying the car is "SALVAGE"

stay btfo

>>17854261
>rc350
>high end

>>17854195
i like dat

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>>17854195
fuuuuuuuuuuaaaarrrrk