Going to buy either a 2017 Focus ST or 2017 GTI (manual). The

the ferd will fall apart faster, the vw will have electrical problems as it ages

>>17783213
>German engineering
damn son, how do you fall for marketing this hard?

what the germans call engineering, the japanese call bloated and the americans call needlessly expensive.

the gti also has crank walk motor failures, brand new cars with the motors failing

>>17783213
>not german engineering

Ford's European department is based in Cologne if I am not mistaken.

>>17783213
>another retard is going to finance a car he can't afford
>good goy! 8 year loan @ 3% APR

get the ST3 2015+ used under 30k miles and one owner.

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>>17783223

>>17783231

lol

putting 15k down. payments are gonna be ~$450 over 5 years

or just get a civic si

>>17783244
Okay man, I was semi joking but are you absolutely sure you can afford that over the span of 5 years?

>>17783244
450? isn't that a lot if you're putting down 15k on a sub 30k car?

Unless you're including insurance in that.

15k down on a 30k car will give you about a $280 per month car payment.

>>17783231
>man asks for advice
>better call him a retard

>>17783271
>asking for advice on 4chan
Retard.

>>17783213
>ST Pros:
>7k$ cheaper
>ST cons:
>Lower resale value

Also, if i'm not mistaken, I believe the GTI is fitted with a limited slip diff.

>>17783213
>spending more than 3k in a car

end yourself op

>>17783213
why? you could get something used that's much better