So when I was 16, I got my learners permit. In that class, I

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People often complain that "hurr, I dont wanna shift in bumper to bumper traffic" which I can understand a bit, but to me it doesn't outweigh all the positives of a manual transmission. They're fun to drive, turn any daily economy car into something you can fully enjoy, and really brings out the life of a car. I dont think I'll ever go back to an automatic for anything more than a work truck. For any people who are on the fence about actually learning, or cant decide whether they like an auto or manual more, ask yourself; How can you fully enjoy your car if you can't get the most out of it that you really can? Both power wise and through spirit.

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>>17676050
>>17676055

Nice dubs tho

>>17676055
Having more fine-grained control isn't a positive for people who just want to get from point a to point b.

>>17676055
I don't care about the bumper to bumper traffic but in a manual I definitely see it as a problem when you're going backwards uphill. I couldn't imagine parallel parking uphill in reverse with a manual. Way too stressful.

>>17676075
Really? Since I've owned my car (about 4 months now) I've done it a few times now and I've had absolutely no issues. Might be me tho.

>>17676075
Theoretically I know how to do it and I don't have any trouble starting from hills with just the clutch but going backwards on a steep hill it just something I never really had to do. Keep in mind that I daily a manual car.

And I am not talking about a slight incline, I am talking about something like a 10% rise. I have gone uphill backwards one time on a ramp into my building's underground parking because I had to reach the lock for the door. You need to hold the clutch at the bite point and give it plenty of gas.

>>17676075
it's stressful on my clutch

I hate niggas that say "hurrrrr why are you complaining about driving MT in heavy traffic"

It's not the work it's the stress of the clutch that worries me.

That's why I save the manuals for my weekend toys and not commuting to work.

>>17676146
Worrying over a hunk of metal?

It depends on the car.

My 4 cylinder with a short 1st gear is a cunt. It shakes if you try and bog it, and it will only go 10mph in 1st unless you really rev it
My v8 is smooth at much lower rpm and handles stop&go speeds in 1st gear easily. Much better.

This post makes me wish that they never invented manual transmissions.

Why do people act elitist about a driving technique that can be taught by a couple of YouTube videos?

I've literally learned manual by playing Forza Motorsport.

>>17676206
I think it takes a lot of work to get good with a manual transmission. It's one thing to know how to operate a manual car but it's a whole other to get all the subtle details down too. It took me months before my shifts started to get smoother and I still get horrible crunchy shifts quite often. And it's not really a matter of choice. If you're going to be driving manual, you HAVE to get good or else you will fuck up every car you own and you're going to pay a huge premium in maintenance fees because of all the unnecessary clutch jobs you'll be doing over the years.

Now, I am not one of the elitists. Like I said, I am actually pretty shit at driving stick but I will continue to do it. I actually feel bad a lot of the time when I hear people speak about driving manual because I know I haven't mastered the skill yet. But what I am saying is that they kind of have a good reason to be elitist about it because it isn't exactly that easy. It's simple to get the hang of it but it's hard to master.

so what are the objective advantages of a manual transmission?
remember: shit like "make the car fun to drive" and "really brings the life out of a car" isn't objective

>>17676295
less parasitic drivetrain loss than automatics, and less cooling demands because of it. Also lighter

>>17676295
Push starting a car comes to mind.

>>17676295
You can get more power out of it, which is good for cars with weak engines like most economy cars. Also the additional control you have over your transmission lets you save on fuel, but this advantage is debatable since cars technologies in automatic transmissions have improved.

>>17676304
>>17676310
fair enough
also explains why everyone in europe drives one

>>17676310
This is actually bullshit for the fuel economy, I get 16/23 no matter what rev range I shift at.

>>17676055
>>17676050
I can't afford to buy manual

I'm in the same position you were , gotta get that automatic 90s hunk just so I can have SOMETHING.

>>17676050
>>17676055
>4chan is not your personal blog