>California >no tinting >octane limited to 91 >taxes

>>17653473
>octane limited to 91
For what purpose?

>>17653473
All cars in the US that require premium only require 91 unless you have a tune for 93.

>>17653490
Porsche recommends 93.

Not to mention the state is almost bankrupt.

i don't, and im glad

if you can't buy guns why live in x state? so boring

>>17653494
Because of calicucks they will run 91 fine.

>>17653473
Yuropoors of the US.

>>17653478
Muh smog

>CARB shit

End me

>>17653547
Doesn't higher octane burn slower?

>tfw i run no cat and full emissions delete because my state doesn't care

>>17653473
cause 6 figure salary and thick filipinas

>>17653588
It's the only reason I could find even though with 93 you should be able to advance the timing more.

>>17653626
I would imagine slower burn = slightly less gas used = slightly less damaged (((environment)))

So why is it not available for purchase

>>17653473
Weather, mountains, ocean ,Beach, money. I run race gas with lead.

>>17653652
I can still get 110 down the street.

No smog check any engine swap I want. total freedom. smog is by county only poor fags don't have a vacation house in no smog check county.

>>17653657
I run av gas.

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Why would someone go online and tell lies

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>>17653473
>be californian
>have tinted windows
>use 87
>pay less than $2k a year in property taxes
u mad?

Live in Tahoe can confirm no smog check ever.

>>17653673
Hi fellow prop 13 bro.

>>17653612
>third worlders
>fat
>worst facial features in all of Asia
I have no idea why you think this is good.
>cost of living is so high you have to make 100k to afford rent on your roach infested shack without starving

>>17653473
>cuz I work for the state, lel

and really the taxes are the shittiest if you live in El Eh and the gay area. Elsewhere, it's mostly manageable.

Haha nah bro that's not true thanks to my daddy's trust fund I run 200 octane jet fuel in my sesto elemento that I daily fucking poorfags

>weather
>beautiful women
>gorgeous beaches
>awesome food
>lots of great driving routes and touges


And of course I'm too autistic to make friends anywhere else

>>17653778
This but
>I can't even make friends here

Oh well, don't need friends to run the canyon :'^)

>>17653756
Cost of living. All of Cali is not Hollywood and gay bay. nor Cal is cheap AF allong with the foot bills and the valley. Houses are 59k in Fresno

>>17653825
>Houses are 59k in Fresno
Yeah but the catch is you have to live in Fresno

>>17653831
it's a small price to pay to not be surrounded by commie faggot SJWs.

plus it's closer to what matters, open twisty highways and beautiful natural scenery.

>>17653473
Don't forget:
>no guns allowed

>>17653840
>plus it's closer to what matters, open twisty highways and beautiful natural scenery.

We have plenty of that down here if you know where to go but I agree the people here fucking suck. People up in central were way more real even if they generally weren't the brightest.

>>17653855
Huh? Dude I have a ton of guns, been hunting since I was a kid. You know we got lots of gun ranges and gun shops even in LA right?

>>17653547
Not really. I'm pretty sure it's just a federal thing.

Higher octane let's you run higher compression, meaning better thermal efficiency. Good for everything.

If the temperatures get way too high though, NOx starts forming and thus your smog goes up.

>>17653866
I'm not talking about fud guns, my dude. I literally can't bring half my guns to Cali because people are afraid of detachable "high capacity" magazines and pistol grips.

>>17653789
Come to s/o/cal meets m-nigguh

>>17653875
Fuck it, I own all those anyway

>>17653875
>because people are afraid of detachable "high capacity" magazines and pistol grips.

Ah yes that retarded shit, they have no excuse or rational explanation for it other than "muh feely feels"

Had my sights set on a .300 carbine with folding stock and foregrip until I found out being more comfortable while shooting is a major threat to humanity.

There's a video of one of our politicians explaining how an ar-15 cans shoot "6,000 rounds per minute, extremely dangerous" it will make you froth at the mouth in anger if you live here.

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>>17653866
Find one of these for sale brand new in California and I'll take back all the shit I've ever said about your state.

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>>17653875
>>17653866
Pic related is what a Cali compliant ar15 looks like. I'm not doing that to all my guns lol.

>>17653891
Mine looks normal and it's CA legal. I have a work around fixed magazines of course

>>17653891
What would happen if you converted to what it used to be and took to firing range? They'd tell me to gtfo?

>>17653881
I want to come to one man, I think the next one is on the 19th but I'm gonna be in Maine visiting my aunt.

I wanted to come to previous ones but my headlights were fucked, finally got new ones so I'm not embarrassed anymore.

>>17653889
What is so hard about finding a 9x19mm pistol? I thought you were going to post a scar-h with folding stock and pistol grip.

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>>17653673
>be floridian
>live outside medium sized city away from everyone but still a quick drive to get whatever I want
>no inspections
>can do whatever to my vehicles
>similar weather
>similar beach babes
>similar illegals
>better gun laws
not even a little

>>17653908
You forgot one important thing
>roads suck

>>17653906
califonia handungun roster. Means most newer pistols can't be sold in California.

>>17653913
actually the roads are being redone in my town so it's quite nice
some back roads are just narrow around here

>>17653908
Hurricanes, Cubans, Haitians, and humidity tho

Your states pretty cool other than that; weather is a huge deal for me though

>>17653913
He's forgetting a few, actually.
>Hot as fuck in the summer.
>No mountains.
They have way better beaches though. Don't get me wrong: I would much rather have a second home in Florida than Cali, but I already live in the mountains.

>>17653908

>be floridian
>have IQ of 35

>>17653906
What's so hard about finding a 308 rifle? ;^)
gg no re

>>17653925
hurricanes aren't a big issue unless you either
>live right next to river/beach
>have a bunch of trees right next to your house
as long as you leave a nice open area around your house and have a generator, there isn't anything to worry about

humidity is shitty but you get used to it, you just gotta use it as a excuse to always go swimming in a spring whenever possible

>>17653916
Yeah but that's not as big of a deal as the rifle restrictions, I mean you can still get a walther p99 or a sig p226 so it's whatever to me

>>17653924
I hear you, central is like that too

>>17653928
>no mountains
Dealbreaker

Never seen their beaches though they are highly acclaimed

>>17653935
>What's so hard about finding a 308 rifle?
Nothing, we could buy them at big 5 in my hometown growing up

>>17653946
The US seriously lacks mountainous terrain with beach access - at least affordably.

Makes me wonder if living somewhere like Chile would be worth it.

>>17653952
at least in florida you can find quiet back roads to hoon on because all the retired old people are sleeping by 9:00

>>17653955
>Makes me wonder if living somewhere like Chile would be worth it.

Have you been anywhere in South America? Especially Chile? lol. The roads are absolutely shit.

>>17653960
I haven't. I'm hoping to travel a lot of it someday when I actually have disposable income.

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>>17653958
Florida is flat as shit what backroads are you talking about.

Just because you aren't driving on a main road doesnt mean its all of a sudden a Touge.

There is absolutely no elevation change.

Pic related is in Tennessee. Deals Gap. That is what I consider a real backroad as it is a Mountain Pass.

>>17653970
Its a beautiful country but you are in for a treat if you think you'd be able to live there.

>>17653955
I guess if you speak spanish, really like the culture/food and don't mind making substantially less money. Their infrastructure also leaves much to be desired as >>17653960 pointed out

>>17653985
not every road has to be downhill to be twisty and fun, but i guess it does help slower cars accelerate faster so that's kinda a plus

>>17653935
Friend of mine has a DPMS pattern AR-10
t. Californian

>>17654004
I was using a false equivalence as he tried to do.
Also, not trying to insult you, but if it's a DPMS it's a LR308 pattern rifle, nor an AR10. Parts are different.

>>17653473
>Why exactly do you live there again?
I don't but the no tinting law makes it appealing.

>>17653999
>not every road has to be downhill to be twisty and fun

have you ever driven an actual twisty downhill road. It is stupid fun and rewarding if you know what you are doing. I personally dont find anything fun about a straight road but if you do, you're in the perfect state for it.

>>17653473
>Living in a liberal shithole
>Ever

>>17654037
>makes it appealing
>SoCal is one of the sunniest places in the US
Kay.

>be me
>live in east bay
>bought and fully paid off house way before recession
>dont have to deal with outrageous prices
feels good knowing when my friends were traveling and exploring i bought a house and they are paying rent still
also
if you have a view of the bay or any sight
rent could go up 2k more and price of house 100k

>Cali
>just no front windows (makes sense huh?)
>e85 and 105 is greatly available
>it's not too bad, only problem is how it's being used (not very well)

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I would much rather live around liberals and hippies than I would possibly militant (alt) right wingers.Those people are some of the most unpleasant, angry, belligerent and dumb people you will ever meet.

>>17653943
This nigga doesn't know about Andrew.

>>17653831
That's not a bad thing. What's bad is living in San Fran. Worst decision I've ever made it's a shit hole. Makes fresno look like it's the cleanest city

>>17655400
Faggot

>>17655400
the problem with liberals isn't the liberals themselves

its the homless and minorities they like to keep around as pets

>>17653901
>They'd tell me to gtfo?
If they were nice to you because you're a regular and the operator likes you. But if you're just some nobody, they are obligated by law to quietly call the police when they encounter illegal weapons. The police then show up to either arrest or make you give it up. You may also get a search warrant (standard) to search your car and home when you have illegal weaponry.

>>17656191
what a shithole

>>17653901
It's law for firing ranges to report illegal items. Don't range them.

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>>17653473
>be Californian
>moving to Arizona this fall
>I can take off my front license plates
>I'll be able to tint my windows
>70-75mph freeway speed limits
>I can offroad wherever I want
>I can have a gun on the same day that I purchase it
>I can carry said gun in my truck with no permit
>gas is cheaper
>property is cheaper
Oh no but my sales tax is a bit higher oh no

California is literally the worst state in the USA.

>>17653831
It's still California and people in flyover country don't know the difference anyway. we are all movie stars here that rode surfboards to school.

>>17656220
And you can't go outside without your flesh searing off

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how the fuck are you guys driving with 91 (95 in europe) and call it "premium" while our "more expensive" gas has rating of 98?

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>>17653522
>>17653494
My car runs better on 94 than it does on 91

>>17656263
Different rating systems dumbass

>>17656271
no shit son thats why i said (95 in europe) i know about AKI and RON

>>17656247
You're all impoverished lowlife bootlickers to me.

>>17656276
94 AKI is equivalent to 98 RON

>>17653473
Because I grew up here and seen the leftist degradation firsthand.
Just haven't seen the opportunity to move yet.
Probably going to go into the military, then get out and go to Montana, not this cuck state so I can still get my mountain land fix.

>>17656282
okay but how available is it?

>>17656288
Everywhere here in Ontario

>>17656280
Funny all Trump voters in my town. All large land owners all have guns and big diesel pickup trucks. All many generations born in California not wetbacks or Midwest east coast transplants. feels good man.

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>>17656292
I didnt know USA had already annexed canada

>>17656303
Canada is basically the US lite

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J U S T

>>17656325
That doesn't sound too terrible, homes in the GTA are far more expensive thanks to chinks

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>>17656329

>>17656325
But you will never get a loan only making 90k a year.

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>>17656343
>Le smug animu face

>>17656360
Come to California young man houses in the central valley are 40-60k Bakersfield is really nice with the river running from the abundant water of the Sierra snow pac.

>>17656254
Nah I'm moving to Flagstaff which means I'll walk out and get soaked by snow that melts immediately

>>17656220
>No beaches
>Hot as fuck
>literally no alternative for water other than the Colorado.

California is the GOD TIER paradise of automotive passion, but only if you are rich.

Just look at Jay Leno and all the small car companies that he features on his show.

>>17656301
>muh Trump voters
Rand was our only hope.

>>17656405
No thanks I actually have a job here

The worst part about California is now that people are realizing its not worth paying cali taxes to live in a waterless, gunless, restrictive hellhole. Now they are flocking in droves to any other state the can afford and voting for the same shitty social services and laws that fucked cali in the first place.

>>17656432
Rand is a manlet and his dad is branded as crazy. I could drive hundreds of miles around California and not see any Hillary signs Trump support wasn't steller but there was no alternative. Only illegal spics voted for her and that's because they were paid and bussed around to many polling places. Just stay away from major cities like San Fran and the traffic of Los Angeles California is great.

>>17656467
Funny because where I live on the coast all I see is texas, Oregon, Nevada and Washington plates. now that property values are up all the people who moved out of calil a few years ago flipped so much real estate in other states they got rich and are all moving back.

>>17656468

>Rand is a manlet

What sort of retarded justification is that?

Rand is smart and more reasonable than his father. Trump is both stupid and corrupt.

>>17656479
Well give us our successful people back and we'll ship you your homeless, unemployable and just plain stupid people back

>>17653473
Actually, I live next to Sonoma Raceway and you can go inside and get three octanes higher than 91 from the Sunoco by the track.

My father and I once put one of the high octanes in our 1994 Ford Mustang GT and it sounded awesome.

>>17656505
Ron>Rand

>>17656505
Spotted the Hillary voter so are you just jealous middle state dweller. it's easy to move to California super cheap to live hear too. but I think you would prefer the liberal utopia cities more they are expensive and inclusive only poor minorities and rich white gilt allowed.

>>17656507
California takes in nothing but useless middle state people and bums coming here for perfect weather and free GiB me dats.

>>17653588
No

>>17653612
Do yourself a favor and make a six-figure salary somewhere else
You don't actually have to live in California to make money in California these days

>>17653673
>Texan
>Dont ever worry about gay car regulations
>93 octane gas
>no property tax
>free to own as many guns as i please
>way less crime and traffic
I'm doing fine

>california
>some of the best twisties in the entire country.
>Most tracks in one state including legendary Laguna Seca.
>largest communities due to size
>for moto guys, LANE SPLITTIN

>>17653673
>be Ohioan
>pay $300 in property tax

Lol faggot

>>17653512
gov brown, or likely future governor newsome are going to raise taxes on everything. a lot of california cities and the state are going to get crippled by a pension bubble. plus all those gibs for illegals.

everyone is going to flood out of california. millions of retarded hard line democrat voters are going to flip a lot of red states.

>>17653612
>make 6 figures
>live in area were shitty small houses cost a million dollars
>rent on shitty small apartments are several thousand a month
>high taxes
>everything costs more

>>17656417
You forget parts of AZ and NM have high altitude.

>>17657472
Not if we can support their secession.

>CA secedes
>numale leftists lose every presidential election from here on out without it's electoral votes and money

Just need New York to go next.

>>17655400
>spot the liberal

>>17653955
South America gets COLD at the coast south of Ecuador. Currents or something.

I'd say Ecuador is the ultimate drivers country. Good and very interesting roads, nice scenery, dirt cheap gas. Rest of Latin America the roads are complete shit with a few exceptions.

Peru and Bolivia are the ultimate with a dirt bike through.

>>17657448
Between land splitting and perfect weather I can't understand why anyone in California owns a car / not a bike.

wow california is misrepresented in this thread. ive lived here all my life maybe youre just too poor to live here

>>17653908
>100% humidity
>hicks
>50% retired people

>>17653908
Florida is the most boring and terrible place to drive in North America. Zero corners, zero elevation, zero scenery, old people and Canadians driving...

>>17657903
In California you're either too poor to live there or not poor enough

I'm a Californian and living here is suffering.

Rent is 3k/mo for a house. Got ditched by 3/5 roommates so GF and I are stuck with whole bill until end of lease. Even then family is offering "cheap" 1br for 1600/mo.

It's either that or live innawoods where 12$/hr is "big" money and everyone is on meth.

Gonna have to bribe a mechanic to smog my Subie this year because cat wore out and the CARB ones cost $800-1200. Normal 48 state cats for it are like $200. Might smuggle one from Nevada instead.

Fucking traffic everywhere. 7-10am and 3-8pm you're stranded wherever you are. Half the drivers are FOBs who don't even know what side of the road to drive on. Public transit doesn't exist. Forget driving manual, you'll fuck up your joints.

Parking is always cramped. Your car better be a ding-ridden hooptie because you'll collect mystery scuffs, dings and key slashes any time you leave it unattended. People are petty and offended by everything so keying is common.

Insurance is fuck you expensive and mandatory.

Gas is actually not too expensive atm. Just came back from Reno and it's about the same.

Gun laws really make me die inside. I dig cars but I love guns. I will never be issued a CCW in my county unless the state is forced to. If I use one of my guns for SD I have to NOPE out immidiately because I'll be crucified afterwards no matter what. Castle doctrine does exist for now at least.

Just surviving getting fucked by my roommates has caused me to run up like $9k in debt. GF just got a really well paying job. Once we save up we're escaping to Oregon or Washington. Either that or she'll leave me with the debt and fuck off, but that's r9k talk.

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>>17656657
>no worry about gay car regulations
>because my state just ended them this year
>“Big states don’t require it. California doesn’t require it. Florida, Oklahoma, New Jersey, too. So here we are — one of the last states that have to deal with that,”
wow your own legislators even admit CA has better vehicle laws
>http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/05/05/texas-senate-has-voted-to-eliminate-safety-inspections-for-vehicles/
also:
>way less traffic
>what do you mean, Katy freeway?

>>17657456
>has to live in ohio
that low property tax comes in handy when you're making $8.15 an hour

>>17658191
>living in the bay
well there's your problem
>escape
>oregon
the drivers there and ODOT a shit
cannot pump your own gas
>washington
better choice but extremely wet

>>17653473
Colorado octane is 85, 87, 91

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>>17658259
>85

>>17658225
I'm in the bay because tech hub. GF is finally making good money, might get promoted to a 6 figure income and allowed to work remotely. You bet I want to wife that. Once we do that we're set to move anywhere we want.

I'm not making anywhere near as much. My finances are taking a pounding although she is carrying a bigger portion of the burden. My job has options to transfer to Austin, Phoenix, Portland or Seattle which I'm going to take if she does leave me. It doesn't look like she will, but there are plenty of horror stories about empowered women suddenly tossing the guy that sacrificed everything to get here there for some minor benefit.

>>17657914
>Implying hicks are bad people on the same tier as mexicans
>implying retired people matter

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I actually declined a high paying silicon valley job in favor to work in Florida, I just didn't want to live in California. It is less pay here, but more muh freedoms, no smog checks, I have my CCW, cheaper living.

>>17658191
Fellow Califag here, fuck this place. The only benefit to living in California is the beautiful views. In fact, a lot of the west coast has beautiful views, but horrible living/people. It's a necessary trade-off if you're into that sort of thing.

The best place to live in California if you're into guns and cars, is the foothils and up. You only need to smog your vehicle once up there, which is why many people register a friend or family member's address in the foothills but live in the valley for work. Gun culture is also much better up there, since libshits are incredibly rare. They're almost like a non-existent minority at times.

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>>17658272
>Here in Colorado, gas stations sell "regular" gasoline which is rated at 85 octane. In most of the rest of the US, 87 octane is the lowest grade available. (As noted previously, higher octane fuel can withstand higher compression without detonation.)

>>17658452
But you still can't even tint :)

>>17658621
3M IR blocking film

>>17658621
You're allowed any % tint on the rear and side rear windows, and 75% up front, which is more than enough. If you need more than that, then you're clearly a degenerate/faggot that thinks they are cool.

Regardless, you still see people with limo tint on their cars every day in this fucking state. Most of them drive BMWs, Audis, Chargers, and donked SUVs.

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>>17653473
I truly wish the best for california so their citizens will stay the fuck there instead of coming up and trying to ruin Oregon

>>17658711
Oregon is just as much of a degenerate shithole, don't kid yourself. The place is full of nothing but libcuck hippies that smell like they haven't showered in days, and self-righteous libertarians.

Which one are you?

>>17653478
what do you have and where do you live?

>>17658723
please, that's only downtown portland. I'm in Hillsboro, where it's either whites or asians and nobody causes a fuss. Oregon is great outside of downtown portland.

>>17658737
Any place is great outside of [insert designated shitting streets here.]

>>17658752
not arguing that. I'm arguing that there are just so many more of those places in california where it infects almost the total of the population. portland used to be much nicer before the big wave of californians started coming around 2011.

>>17653494
>Porsche recommends 93.
Car company recommends you spend money on the most expensive thing to buy for your depreciating asset of theirs. News at 11.

>>17658779
Kys gmfag

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>>17653955
I used to live about an hour north of San Diego. Half hour to the beach, 2 hours to mountains. Dead comfy desu.

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>>17656405
>Bakersfield
>nice
Pick one

>>17653473
This sounds like Australia. You're lucky it's only in one state and not 7.

>>17653478
>>17653490

They pretty much only sell 93 in my state. 89/90 is midgrade hardly ever see 91.

>>17658795
Having visited it a few times, it's tempting, but I couldn't find many entry level engineering jobs there.

>>17653955
SC here, I live 3 hours from the coast, less than an hour from the mountains.

>>17657448
>>some of the best twisties in the entire country.
Enjoy your bumpers.

>>17653473
cars never rust

>>17653473
>octane limited to 91
TetraBoost

>>17657472
>shit up your state so bad you don't even want to live there anymore.
>move to a perfectly good state to shit it up like home

This should be a capitol offense

>>17658812
Have you been there lately they cleaned up some of the old town it's all hipsters their now coffee shops and stuff. new houses all they way to the mountains in the 178. Viselia is also cleaned up rich la people are moving to these valley towns and pricing the Mexicans out. Handford has round abouts now not to mention like 6 breweries. Sure it's hot AF but not as hot as redding.

>>17660212
Californians are literally known to do that. Move out of state then bitch about how things are not like it was back in California.

They're like the Rapefugees of North America except without the rape part.

>be Florida
>20% all around, illegal up front
>cops will never care, every fucking car is 20% or 25% up front
>doesn't eliminate head build-up, but certainly helps

>>17660311
Californians that do this were never real Californians. they are the people from middle States who came out west to make it big but failed then claim California as if it impressed people from the new state they move to. Remember also many people come here for college and go to liberal arts schools then go back to Ohio and hang out at a coffee shop telling everyone how cultured and diverse they were in California. Real Californians don't need to move because they have it so good here for generations.

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>>17653588
Tie a noose around your neck

>>17656360
Holy shit, I thought you were talking about GTA like the GTA 5 videogame (based in a fake Los Angeles). I figured you were blaming chinks because they are always hacking the game and what not.
By the way that's fucking insane.

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>real Californians don't need to move because they have it so good for generations

my family has been in california for generations and I still left. the state is so fucking shit now