Has anyone lived in their car before? Dad is considering kicking

>>17606259
>Dad is considering kicking me out
why and how old are you

yes it's relevant to your question

>>17606279
because he thinks im a leech and im 21

>>17606291
That sucks op, i was able to stay til 24 then i found a good job and apt. Start making moves fast imo cuz living out of a car sucks big time

>>17606291
>21
>living with your paps
get a job anon

>>17606291
do you study or work?

I have slept in my car, it's uncomfortable as fuck specially if you're tall

>>17606307

It's not 1967 you dumbass baby boomer

Where do you live? Maybe you can live in a tent, if it is warm enough.

>>17606306
I imagine it not to be so crap.

I would use a library during the day for internet and warm indoor place. I would use my 24/7 gym to shower, shave etc. It can't be that bad.

>>17606259
What car?

>>17606331
718 boxster

Are you a Neet? Get a job, get roommates.

The biggest part on living on someone else's expenses is what you contribute. Do you do chores every day? Do you help your parents run errands? If you're just benchracing all day and don't contribute anything at all to water, electric, rent, groceries, etc then yeah you're a leech. You have to make it where it is convenient for you to be there and them pay for all your shit. I can promise you it will not be easier when you move out.

You'll have to do all said chores and errands because you have to, on top of paying for all bills and utilities. A lot of people will give you shit for being 18+ and still listening to your parents, because back in the day boomers could go to school, buy a car and own a home with only one job. It's far from that anymore. Spend the time with your parents to save money, pay even just a little bit like 200 or 300 a month to help cover your expenses and keep the house clean as fuck.

If you're looking for work keep a spreadsheet of every job you've applied for in order to show you're at least trying.

If you're not then you better start anyways because you won't survive as a NEET outside the home.

>>17606347
i hate living with my parents though we never get along. i also want to buy my own food because they buy shit

>>17606382
are you NEET though?

>>17606414
yes

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Living in a car is great, if you have private internet, and a fat bank account

otherwise, get a job, rent, save, invest.

>>17606425
if you had a fat bank account why wouldn't you just rent an oceanfront vista?

>>17606447
because maybe you want to live in a car due to the freedom it gives, if you like travelling and you're the minimalist type of guy.

>>17606452
>uncomfortable
>no where to store food
>if it gets cold/hot you have problems
>can't sleep well

The only reason you'd do this is if you were poor.

>>17606420
>21
>neet

what are you doing with your life? get a job you faggot


I never understood the neets, I get that the system is not ideal, but how can you not work or go to college, don't expect to get thrown out of your house and find a job that will pay you a an apartment and food, all the decent jobs require experience, to get experience you need to flip burgers for a few years while you're living with your parents and don't have to worry about rent

>>17606523
He's probably talking about expensive van conversions

lol OP posted this thread twice on fit and scoffed at everyone telling him to get a job

So he moseys over to /o/ and asks the same shit for the third time (probably more)

>GO
>TO
>TEMP
>AGENCY
>AND
>GET
>A
>FUCKING
>JOB

People can and do live out of all sorts of things, OP. Cardboard boxes, slapped together shanties and cars too. Your biggest problem will be staying hidden from the cops. Cops love to pick on homeless people because they know they can't fight back. As far as figuring out how to live in a car and stay hidden, you're dumb if you think a Vietnamese image board is the best place to start figuring this shit out. Google and youtube that shit.

Run along now, and good luck.

>>17606420
Go get a job at McDonald's or Walmart. They always need people and I guarantee they'll find somewhere for you. That'll hopefully get your dad off your back, it's at least something.

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>>17606259
Just get a job anon, I support myself with a overnight security job (literally just drive around an empty building every couple hours, shitpost the rest). Even if you are socially retarded, or even mentally retarded most will hire on an instant if you have a license and can work overnight. Its shit pay but beats being homeless, I still have my own decent place with no roomates and a car I like.

Living in a car sucks. Living in a camper van is very less sucky though.

>>17606606
not everyone wants to be a slave like you.

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>>17606340
Dude are you fucking kidding me? You're about the live the dream: HOUSE PORSCHE

>>17606673
No one owes you anything, if you want to not be a Slave as you say then prepare to either Steal for your living or live on the streets

>>17606673
You need a job in order to earn money, you clueless freeloader. No wonder your dad is thinking about kicking your worthless ass out; I would have done it long ago. Get a job and pay your fucking way like literally everybody else or go live in a shelter.

>>17606673
Youre fucked in the head

A job gives you MONEY which equates to freedom. A rich person can truly do whatever the fuck they want

If you arent a slave to your job youl be a slave to the government handouts or a cock slave to some rich gay guy, or a slave to your dad who, by the way, is ashamed of you

You cant just run into the woods or sleep in a shitbox parked at walmart and 'be free' buddy

Get a grip on reality

>>17606673
Youre gonna end up dancin for nickels outside the liquor store like all the other homeless trash

>>17606340
Is that your car or your dad's car he's just letting you drive? In any case, good luck living out of that. There's not even room to put the seats back. Are there even cupholders in it? I'd have to check.

>>17606259
>Dad is considering kicking me out
Once you're moved out never do anything for that boomer faggot again

>>17606259
See the other thread too

>>17606291
>he thinks im a leech and im 21
>21
>still living in daddy's basement
Your father makes a lot of sense. Get a job you waste of oxygen.

Also never lived in my car, but got kicked on the street at 15, lived under a bus station for a month before getting enough cash to buy a ticket to North Carolina and stayed with my Aunt for a year. Then she kicked me out too and I was basically homeless for another full year going between friend's houses and living at a church. Fun stuff. Doing well now though, sorry for the blog post niggers.

>>17606307
The entire world isn't India

>>17606313
>mfw 19 and living on my own
You're right, it's 2017, go flip some burgers you dumbass millennial

>>17606692
>live on the streets
As a NEET on the streets, the other homeless or street gangs or individual muggers will quickly steal your Porsche and sell it to a chop shop for parts. You won't be living in your Porsche for long. How'd you afford a Porsche and its insurance as a NEET anyways? No wonder why your parents are upset with you still being a NEET at 21.

>>17606259
Get a job ASAP. Take whatever shit cleaning job you can. Also if you have any friends or familys couch you can crash at take advantage of it. Also get of 4chan it fucks with your head if you're here for too long. That being said here is my advice from living in a car for 3 months:

1. Sleep in a sleeping bag in the passenger seat.

2. Eat off the dollar menu while you find a job/place. Or live off non-perishables that don't require cooking such as PB&J sandwiches and beef jerky.

3. Shower and do all your bathroom shit at a gym or truck stop.

4. Sleep at a truck stop, or if you know your neighborhood well enough to find a place where no one will bother you do that.

You're gonna have to eat shit for a while so be prepared.

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>>17606849
>Get a grip on reality
Some NEETS just daydream about going on social welfare until they get their inheritance. But little do they know it is a growing trend in america for the parents to NOT pass most of the inheritance to the children who were irresponsible and didn't even care for the parents in the latter years.

I have a rich neighbor down the street like that. He's divorced long ago and is a business multimillionaire. He hides from relatives since it is another corporation that owns the businesses and he's able to be private and hide. He's changed his name and made his first name a single letter. His current home in my HOA was bought by one of his companies, so someone without MLSS database access searching his name as a property owner will probably not find him. He is trying HARD not to have any of his wealth go to his relatives when he dies. His kids were raised by the ex-wife and have no fondness for him nor does he for them. He's even got a fake name plate on his house entrance. It's also next to impossible to walk to his front door now as he put an armored door in the side of his detached garage. The doorbell is there along with security cameras. The legally required gate to his front door is hidden in a wall of ivy and is actually kind of stiff to open due to the branches being stiff. That's if you can find the latch among all the black widow spiders. One touch of spider web and you'll pull your hand out fast and not want to search. Trick: the sidewalk from his front door to the wall is not where the gate is located. The gate is actually off to the side. So if you think the gate is where the sidewalk on either side of the wall is, then you will never find the gate.

He's aware of the typical shenanigans relatives do when someone with a Will dies but leaves nothing to the relatives. In order to do that, enough time has to pass after disbursement to avoid challenges. He plans to donate the wealth to various charities.

>>17606313
>>17606291
You are a leech. Do you mow the lawn every weekend? Do you pay rent? Do you clean? Do you cook? If not, you are a POS son mooching off his father.

Get a fucking job. Get some fucking roommates. Move out and become a fucking adult you POS. I moved out at 18. Got two jobs and went to school. Stop being a lazy fucking shit numale and grow up.

>>17606673
>bernie was gonna gib me gibbss!!!!!!
get a fucking job. Jobs have existed since humans have. You think a village would allow you to sit on your fucking ass while everyone else hunted and gathered food/water?

>>17607055
>2017
>Voluntarily being exploited for slave labor and people treating you like shit
Worst 3 years of my life. Freelance is hard but at least it's gratifying work. Get a skill and work for yourself OP.

>>17608466
You're an absolute fuckhead. It isn't that easy for people these days, it never has been. I say that as someone who DID move out at 18.

Thanks for being part of the fucking problem, nowhere but the US do parents look at their kids like parasites rather than grown adults who can contribute to the family name.

>you're staying at home?
>REEE NOOOOO! I DON'T CARE IF YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN A MOTEL! GO AWAY FOREVER AND LIVE IN SQUALOR!
>see you at Thanksgiving

>>17606420
>>17606673
youre a fucking faggot, im not even your dad i want to kick you out

>tfw my parents just started making me pay rent, and I got sick of it after a while because I still had to adhere to their rules (not allowed to keep my guns at their place, wasn't allowed to get a doggo)
>Decided to just move out and get my own place where I can now do both of those things
>realized they were playing 3D chess the other day


All in all it was a good idea anyway cause I'm 23 years old. Feels good to have my own place

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>>17606340
>718 boxster
Too small to hold any possessions. But how will you get gasoline and insurance for the car? What stops a lot of homeless from living in their cars in my suburb city is when the police come by due to a loitering complaint. They are allowed to ask questions such as how long you were parked there (a legally filed complaint allows them to ask related questions without triggering the 4th amendment). Police can ask for identification, a drivers license, and proof of insurance for anyone on the public roadway. They will check plate registration to see it is current or TOW.

A lot of homeless don't satisfy the insurance requirement and end up losing the car to that once the police questions pile up.

There is nothing good about being a NEET because it makes your brain less capable. Remember, people train (education) to make their brain better and sharper at making decisions. This is a proven fact millions of times over every year in this and other countries. BUT what a lot of neet and lazy people forget is that you can also train your brain to become less capable and slower thinking and less sharp. You do that by lazing around each and every day in the basement bench racing or playing games. You may get good at games, but that is not the same as the type of experience you get from real education and applying yourself to a job with other people to consider.

You will find out that America is not the USA your grandparents had with its social welfare programs. Sooner or later, the budget deficit will force social welfare programs to cut benefits. And national medical care will only exist in name but not as a practical thing. You'll find out you have no social security because you didn't pay into it and thus have basically none of the advantages of the government adding their money to the pool. The current SS working period is 37 years and Congress was thinking of raising it to 40 years. Sucks.

>>17606382
>i also want to buy my own food because they buy shit

They buy your own food. Don't just sit there with the attitude of "Want This", "Want That", "Ohh, I want that too".

>>17608484
Because kids today don't do SHIT to contribute to living at home. You eat the food. Dirty the house. Do no chores. Don't repair anything. Don't help with bills. And waste all your money on NEET shit and cars. Fuck you, you dumb faggot.

>these days
Nigga I'm not even old. Get A FUCKING JOB AND A FUCKING ROOM MATE. STOP WASTING MONEY. STOP WASTING TIME. GET A MOTHER FUCKING JOB AND START YOUR GOD DAMN LIFE.

>WAHHHHHHh we have it soooo hard, you don't even know. Our parents make us get jobs and do something with our lives.

>>17608569
There are no fucking jobs that let you live like a human being these days. When my mom was a kid she waitressed and paid for a townhouse in Baltimore. You hint at it in your post but you dance around it - the ONLY living arrangements these days are communal. That's it. You can either pay rent at home or pay rent with 5 strangers, the problem is dick heads like you who sperg out that someone might value their offspring and be OK having them live at home.

Every other country I've visited had no problem with 3 generations all living under one roof, America is unique in that we have been fed some lie that our kids need to gtfo while their brains and personalities are still developing so they can stay bitter, destitute fuckups.

>>17606447
>if you had a fat bank account why wouldn't you just rent an oceanfront vista?

Some people like to live frugally. I once knew of (he died of old age type health problems) an old asian guy HSIAO who went to the same university. He was retired and spent his retirement as a university student taking whatever classes he wanted. He was a member of various university clubs and some were great for him due to travel opportunities. But since he had money, he could really make his dollars go further due to the student discounts. So instead of staying in some cheap place, he'd find the more expensive accommodation that was still at the student rate. Those are rates the general public cannot get. He had a good life full of fun. He was there before I attended univ. He was still there when I left with my masters.

>>17608589
BULLLLSSHHHITTTTTT.
No generation was just buying a house at 18 with minimum wage jobs. Go work construction. Go work in NDT. Go work in the oil field. Or solar. Or for a comic book store. Or as an assistant. Or pest control. Or any of the other thousands of jobs.

>Rent home for $1000/month
>live with 2 other people
>$333/month for all of you
>$100/month for home related bills each
>$433/month
>$10/hr job will be about $1350 after tax each month
>can't live off of $917/month

You are literally the problem with your generation. Everyone wants $40/hr with no experience then cries when they have to get normal jobs like the rest of America. You can sell fucking cellphones at ATT and make $30k a year easy. Or, you know, just keep finding excuses for your failures.

>>17606259
>Has anyone lived in their car before?
You can't simply exist on the streets with a car unless it's some sanctuary state or city. My state is not a sanctuary state nor is my city. So if you try that here, the police will give you the letter of the law treatment. There is no where you can park that they police don't already know about.

You complained about the food your parents buy for you to eat. But when you live on the streets, you'll find out what it means to have problems with both hot meals and no refrigeration for food items.

You'll also find out what it means to have black gangs mug you for your EBT card and PIN number. If the PIN you give them doesn't work, they will beat the crap out of you. So you can't always depend on having your EBT card for food.

>>17608589
>decent homes in my major city (nothing fancy but decent)
>$110k
>$515/month
>make $10/hr
>$1600/month
>can't afford it
LOL

>>17608653
>Or, you know, just keep finding excuses for your failures.
OP seems too lazy to even come up with excuses as he hasn't bothered to even post any. It's like he's in "cruising mode" all day long in some self-inflicted mental haze.

Did he graduate high school? With what grades? I assume he just did the minimum to get by and pass. Not hard since high schools admin and teachers make money by graduating students due to how the federal government pays money to the education industry and withholds money for each student that doesn't graduate. Teachers want to get rid of the problem cases instead of having them stick around held back for another year. So they find a way to graduate them or mark their exams as pass when they actually failed.

>>17606259
Buy some form of weapon and become increasingly unstable and unpredictable, they threaten to kick you out you take an old desk chair or something disposable out in to the living room and smash it the fuck up, chuck in a threat or two as well if you want but I found that just smashing shit worked for me, I was in the middle of a full time course and had just been fired from my job and I was threatened with being kicked out so I did that with a kukri, fucking mauled that chair, wood chips and upholstery foam everywhere, my family was scared as fuck and didn't even mention it again.

Moving out should be on your own terms and when you're able to support yourself properly unless you are like 25+

>>17608653
I personally make good money, but I'm not stupid enough to ignore the dwindling middle class and the lack of resources. We can't ALL be affluent, but the number of have nots grows, and grows, and grows, every year. You categorically cannot say "there is a problem with ALL 75 MILLION millennials," at some point you need to take a look at the game they all keep losing at

>moved out when I was 18 to go to college
>2 roommates
>rent $450 a month
>first year work 60 hour weeks in summer busting my ass
>go to school and work around 20 hours a week
>find time flexible job and work myself up to full time after a year
>become manager and make my own schedule
>go to school full time and work full time
>STILL saving money
>go to gym 6 days a week

If I wasn't paying for my own education cash I could easily buy a house for myself. 1 year left anyways for my bachelors.

So many retards bitch and moan about being broke and having loans. No one has a work ethic anymore.

If I could go back I never would have gone to college. Absolute waste of time and money. Get into a trade and make 60-80k a year because there is a desperate need for people who can actually work. My current job is focused around my degree, but only because I don't want it to go to waste.

Get a job pussy.

>>17608752
I have maintained for years that physical labor jobs are going to be worth more than office jobs. EVERYONE is computer savvy today, and there are so many overweight and lazy people that there aren't enough to fill all the manual jobs. Wait and see. I give it 15 more years. The antifa libcucks are accelerating it even more.

>>17608589
>There are no fucking jobs that let you live like a human being these days.

It is up to your ambition and how you plan your future actions. My mother and father didn't pay for my university education. I had a cheap bicycle and that was good enough. It took me an extra year to get out, but many who work do take as much as 2 years more. But if you look, you find jobs. I even part timed at the photocopy shop and other places. You can work on one homework problem before the next tasks comes. But after a shift, you can have a bunch of problems solved. Every minute counts.

After I got out, I still lived frugally but also knew the value of getting along with other people. I had a nice job due to the company interviewer recognizing my life story of working thru school. I also had documentation and pictures of the fun on the way which impressed him that I looked for the positive items in life no matter how tough. At 26, I finally owned my own home. I could have flipped it but living frugally despite having a nice job meant I paid it off. It's nice enough that 23 years later I still live there. I look at past stories of high school acquaintances. Some have failed but that was because they made a string of bad decisions.


>>17608653
>Or, you know, just keep finding excuses for your failures.
Or they can keep voting Democrat until they implement Universal Stipend Reparations for those that don't work.

>>17606259
Yeah, I've done it a few times.
I don't recommend it.

>>17606259
>Has anyone lived in their car before?
It is impossible in my area. That's because each time the police find you, they note that in the computer. On the third time they find you in the city limits, your car will be towed to impound. So you can live in your car for 2 days in my city before you have to move to a different city.

>apply for job
>get email back
>we let u know in 3 weeks if u got the job
just get a job loser xd

>>17608690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFRArJmAedA

>>17606673
I think you're grossly misunderstanding the definition of the word you're using.

>>17608810
>getting a job online is hard, so I should just give up
Have you tried going to SMALL companies and applying in person, you lazy fuck?

>>17606922
Yeah, taking care of his shit ass son for 21 years wasn't enough, right?

>>17608818
>He works for a company
>He thinks he's not a slave
I think you're grossly retarded, and should promptly kill yourself, you inept ignoramus.

>>17608373
I remember getting this exact same response from someone 2 years ago when I was getting kicked out.
Rings true.
In fact, you don't know how shitty living in your car is until you do it.

>>17608830
>>17608830
>le fedora millenial
>contributing to society u slaaveee!!!
>errthing should be free
>and paid for by those who work!!!
>I'm a transkin

>>17608817
Vid won't load for me mate, what's this?

>>17608768
HVAC, plumbing, carpentry, mechanics, etc will all be 6 figure jobs in a decade I believe.

>>17608830
Slavery involves no compensation you dumb liberal faggot.
>inept ignoramus
No wonder you're a waste, you don't even understand how to communicate. Get a job loser.

>>17608843
We already have to pay mechanics over $20/hr at the lower levels to keep them around. My friend owns his own HVAC company, and it's EXPLODED the last 5 years. Plumbers are making $30-$40/hr. I work in NDT and it starts in the high $20's once your level 2. that $60k a year after a few months of learning.

>>17608508
That's some solid parenting.

>>17608845
>Wagie slave gets mad he got BTFO
>Cries because he knows he can't formulate a coherent thought and put me in my place
How utterly drole. You clearly are not worth wasting yet another petty second upon.

Begone, slavie. Your kind is not welcome here.

>>17606291
you should move out at 18 you worthless yuropoor

>>17608845
All work and no play makes wagie a dull boy. Hurry up now, my food isn't gonna make itself.

>>17606259
It can be scary to sleep in the car. Best place to sleep at is at white neighborhood and sleep in the trunk if you have a big one. Never stay in the same location

>>17606673
You have no fucking choice. If you're a NEET you are worse than a slave. You are literally just a parasite on your father. You have no right to have any pride over 'wagecucks', because you are lower than them.

>>17608911
>Wagecucks genuinely believe this
Shouldn't you be bending over for your boss, wagecuck? He needs to make four times as much as you do by doing four times less than you. Also my burger needs extra cheese, and skimp on the pickles.

CHOP CHOP, wagecuck. Another day another dollar :^).

>>17608928
Well, what do you do to make money?

>>17608928
Another day and no dollar is somehow preferable

>BLOGPOST

I'm currently and am probably gonna be moving out when I'm 21, by that point I'll have a fuckload of savings and I should have enough stability with my job for it to not be a big financial risk. Currently making $40k/year (take home after taxes) and only paying about $180/month in expenses, which is all my parents are asking for. For reference I'm a leaf.

Also, don't live out of your car, start paying rent or something. But if you must live out of a 4+ wheeled vehicle, doing a van camper conversion is a decent option, as is becoming a trucker.

>>17608949
**Currently 19

It's possible, you need to have gym membership and good mobile internet service, but it's very possible. Also much better than having roommates. Always be suspicious of people that suggest having roommates or lived with some stranger in the past.

>>17608928
Not all jobs are burger flipping anyways, genius. If you have any technical skills of note you could just work tech industry, they're hungry.

I did it my entire senior year of HS. Good luck. Hard times are ahead. If you make it through you'll be better, tougher, and a whole lot craftier for it

>>17608937
I dunno. You can't take the money with you when you inevitably die. Nor can you take the toys with you either.

What you can take with you are the things you know how to do. You can't take the sports car with you but you can take with you all the skills to maintain it and all the skills to drive it. You don't have to be a wagecuck, but you should be doing something with your time. Take something with you before you leave.

>>17609034
The worst part is he has a car. He can *drive* to a job. That is such a huge barrier for most NEETs and he's already overcome that. Entering the workforce sucks, but if this dude is so full of pride he can't bear to work some menial shit versus just be homeless, he can't be helped.

>>17608981
Were hungry. I'm hearing reports silicon valley is going in reverse. That place is feast or famine and it's famine for the next few years. Besides, those tech jobs are all going to China at some point. Sustainable work is whatever can't be outsourced.

>>17606259
Get the windows tinted and get a space at a public parking garage that offers monthly parking. You should be good for a while. Make sure to do this in the city so that you have the opportunity to shower and stuff at the YMCA during the day.

>>17609040
I don't agree with the whole 'make more money high score' BS thing, everything is transient.That being said you do have needs that must be met, and presumably as a human being you'd prefer to exist with adequate food/shelter/whatever versus live in a state of destitution.

Seems more like decision making paralysis, OP wants a good job, but can't into one because reasons (i.e. glut of manpower in workforce for entry level shit, general trend of decreasing wages). But I think an aspect of becoming an adult is coming to terms with subpar scenarios and overcoming them. Godspeed, OP.

>>17607055
The idea that you need to move out as soon as you're legally an adult, or as soon as you go to college, or whatever is a dumbass American myth and it's not conducive to becoming a responsible adult because it's a needless waste of money. It basically prevents young people from saving any money before they can comfortably move out. That's why you see so many people in America struggling financially. Sure you can move into a slum and work paycheque to paycheque while eating nothing but rice and beans for a couple of years, but that doesn't prove you're a better person than someone who lived with their parents until their late 20s. It just proves that your parents are retarded.

>>17609052
Hinges on what you're doing. I work at a privately owned SaaS company, there's a baseline competence you want to maintain to keep a money-making machine going that you don't necessary want to put in another country.

I agree with you that there are no guarantees, we've seen a dot com crash in our lifetime, we'll see another one, but you know there are retard tier IT jobs for dudes like OP.

>>17606259
join the military stupid faggot.

it's literally welfare for fucks like you.

free food and housing and you keep your checks

don't blow it on chinese whores and drugs

>>17608449
lel NEETcucks BTFO

Neet here it's funny watching all u wagies sperg out because op doesn't want normiefag scraps.

Op it ain't that bad desu get a van something u can sleep in

>>17609080
Well OP could also just be a little bitch that doesn't stop whining about tendies and now he wants to run away in his mom's car. We hear the side of the story he wants to share.

I agree with the whole 'moving out at 18' thing not being a reality anymore for tons of people, and I think with time the stigma has faded away to an extent. Still, I can't imagine something more frustrating than watching your kid sit around and do nothing. I wouldn't wish retail on my enemies, but a cursory effort to appear to give a fuck about your state as a human being would probably stop his dad from bitching at him.

>>17609084
I bet the Marines could make a man out of him.

>>17609093
NEET tendies are better? I had a few shitty jobs before I finally landed something decent that I enjoyed. Dragging on a NEET phase isn't going to yield you some sort of buddha-like insight into the human condition, you fedoralord.

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>>17609084
>don't blow it on chinese whores and drugs
>tfw i did this

no regrets. best 4 years of my life tbqh.

>>17609110
DI would probably be able to motivate him to do shit where his father failed.

>>17608653
b-b-but I don't want to have roommates!

What a bunch of faggots. I currently make 105k a year and I have two roommates right now because it simply allows me to save more before I buy my second house.

>>17609129
Good strategy. Get rental income in place and let that supplement your next mortgage. You could be the landlord for OP.

>>17609099
I don't know. I am 26, NEET until 23, then I started college. Took out a student loan and didn't work for three years until I got my diploma. Got a job out of school and I still live with my parents, but I make more than either one of them (they're both working class). I'm hoping to move out this year because frankly I'm tired of not having any privacy and I think they encourage my bad habits (like drinking).

I agree that he should at least do something if he's going to live at home, and if he's getting kicked out he's basically got no choice but to get a job asap no matter how shitty it is. Still though, it's a bad way for parents to treat their kids and I think it is unnecessary. How much of a burden is it really for the parents to let him live in their home? He's American so he likely lives in some bloated McMansion so there's plenty of room and no rent to pay. Food is dirt cheap and his parents are probably obese anyway like 60% of Americans. Now that he's getting kicked out, he's in for some hard times. If his dad let him stay and left him be, he would wise up in a couple of years and go back to school like I did, or get an apprenticeship or something like that, and he'd have a shot at getting a respectable job. Instead he's going spend his 20s mopping floors and stealing toilet paper from gas stations.

>>17608875
you're a joke.
Like one of those kids people on here make fun of constantly for thinking he's really smart, but actually isn't.
Good luck with your life, or if you're roleplaying, go fuck yourself.

>>17608906
I don't do that shit. Part-time jobs aren't meant to sustain a living wage you pathetic NEET.

>>17609156
>Part-time jobs aren't meant to sustain a living wage you pathetic NEET.
Good goy.

>>17609129
>
You're pretty dumb m8.

buy a house and get 2 roomates who pay their share.

You'd be paying a mortgage already.

>it's another "people who have it made brag about everything" episode

>>17608569
I don't want to spend 50% of my income just on rent. and that's the cost even with a roommate.

real estate prices are retarded in Toronto. High as fuck but it's not like we even have lucrative jobs here. Most people just get barely $5 to $10 above min wage

>>17609174
I'll be your roommate bro. Where you at?

>>17609171
>it's another "people who actually got off their fucking ass and worked for what they have explain to SJW's how to be adults" episode

>>17609147
I think a lot of it is momentum. If you've been ground down enough on the wheel of pain, and have some idea of how society works, you're going to have habits that overcome deficits that might have otherwise prevented you from getting a job (i.e. being a sperglord with no social skills).

>>17609174
>I don't understand what moving is
>I stay in absurdly expensive places then cry about the prices
Okay then.

>>17609160
>calls Mr Noseberg a parasite
>actually *is* a parasite

>>17609169
You're not wrong, but I just moved to a new city and I'm doing this as a temporary measure while I look for my next house to buy in this city.

>>17609189
On the other hand, if you're truly terrible at dealing with people (as I am) and you keep applying to normie jobs like service or retail, you're going to get rejected or keep getting fired and your precarious income situation will prevent you from investing in yourself by getting an education that gives you marketable skills that will stop employers from turning you down as easily. When you have no skills to offer, almost every single other applicant is more qualified than you as long as they're a conventionally attractive turbonormie.

>>17609113
I've had work it's just the pay was so I quit.

Straya is fucked for work nobody my age can get work or decent hours our entire labor force is now imported like a million chinese

>>17609222
Yeah, for sure, my CHR score is pretty low. I'm sure there's a grind for just about any set of skills, though. I did geeksquad type shit before I got an in with something better paying, and that sucked ass.

>>17609152
>Wagie so mad he is literally having a meltdown
O I AM LAFFIN'.

>>17609239
Sorry to hear that. You can defeat them in the next Road War.

>>17608829
No. Don't have a kid unless you're ready to put them first until they are comfortably living on their own. Dump his boomer ass in the worst senior home you can find in a 150 mile radius, OP.

>>17609256
Most of us have probably been tendie eaters at one time or another. No hard feelings. Perhaps if we were hunter gatherers again we'd have some sort of dignity restored to our existence, but we've been pretty much going downhill for the last few millenia. Slave, serf, retail worker, all variations on a theme.

>>17609310
Comfortable living on his own may be never. For some people that is the case. His dad probably just wants to get back to living his own pre-child existence and let the kid finally be a man.

>>17606259
Pretty sure I've got some threads archived asking about it months back; I spent a few months living out of my car and asked /o/ for advice on the matter.

If you've got a minivan or a long bed truck with sleeping room, you're pretty good. You'll have neck cramps all the time if you have a coupe or sedan, though, because you'll be sucking dicks to sleep somewhere more comfortable.

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>>17609046
>if this dude is so full of pride he can't bear to work some menial shit versus just be homeless
You can tell by how he posts he is quite passive. He posts just the minimum each time he answers questions. It's like he doesn't bother thinking about providing enough info in the first post for us to help him. So it's no wonder more people, including myself become irritated and make angry posts.

Anyways, there are social services in any reasonable size city to help people get jobs. The state has an unemployment office with lots of info. Let your parents know you are doing something and show them what you are doing.

But if you keep on doing the minimum in life other than seeking pleasure, you are burning your bridges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReUaQlsZZ5I

>>17609160
they're not.
Part-time jobs are for high school kids.
Niggers and dumb socialists seem to think they're entitled to every little thing.

>>17609256
your life is a meme a socialist joker.

>>17609310
What if he was doing good, and hit a corner with the depression in 2007-2008.
You don't have to take care of a child past 18.
Pay respect to your old man, one day you'll be one.
Then again, liberals don't have a long life expectancy and are typically gay, so maybe you won't.

>>17609612
This logic is retarded. These are jobs that need someone to do them and it's pretty unreasonable to expect everyone to be skilled in some way because some people don't have access to the education (in America especially), and some people are just plain stupid and all they will ever be able to do is menial labor. People deserve to be able to make enough money to comfortably sustain themselves on any job as long as they are working full time. "Unskilled labor is for high school students to get experience" is a meme. Besides, if in your hypothetical perfect world every person who works in service or retail became skilled and would qualify for "real" jobs, the market would become even more oversaturated than it currently is and finding work would be more difficult for everyone.

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This board is comedy gold. Every day.

>>17606922
>Once you're moved out never do anything for that boomer faggot
After 21 years of taking care of you and paying for you, you decide to be very ungrateful not just to your parents, but to society as well. Let me know where they live and I'll show up with a little courtesy. They will deed their inheritances to me instead of you. Because the one day I showed up just to say hello and thank you for your taxes that supported the community, they were so grateful that someone finally said thank you.

>>17609088
That's one way to make a living.

>>17609065
A gym membership allows that. Remember that a lot of gyms are sensitive towards keeping homeless out of their facilities, so they try hard to institute dress codes such as gym appropriate athletic attire required.

>>17609949
>This board is comedy gold. Every day.
Schadenfreude for you.
Consternation for me because I'm a taxpayer and want more non-taxpayers to become taxpayers. Instead, OP is heading down the road of being a net loss on the balance sheets.

>>17608449
This sounds like a good thief level

>>17608653
>Rent home for $1000/month
Try doing that in Commiefornia, no way.
>but just move you faggot
I drive pleasure yachts for a living so my career depends on sunshine and good weather.

>all these idiots with jobs

good job not investing in btc when it was cheap

t.23 y/o neet

>>17606382
>i hate living with my parents though we never get along.
Aren't they the ones that paid for your Porsche?
Aren't they the ones that pay for the gasoline?
Do you work to get money to pay for the car insurance that is mandatory?
Who paid the license plate registration and smog checks?
Who pays for your internet?

Who pays for a place you are staying at that doesn't have muggers walking by you at all times of the night? This one thing is incredibly valuable but so many NEETs take for granted until it is too late and they lose it.

Have you ever been beaten up? I don't mean shoved or punched in school. Beaten until you have a bone broken? That often happens on the street because they stomp on your leg or arm to break your joints. As a cripple, you cannot harm them even if you find them again. That is street logic. Without safety, you cannot have a car. The other homeless will take everything from you.

>>17609052
Im 23 and make 150k in SV. rent is under a grand with roommates. literally free money here.

>>17606259
OP, there's no way to put this nicely, but it sucks. However it's a great way to put away a lot of money quickly. You'll already be paying for insurance, registration, and fuel anyways.

>>17606523
>uncomfortable
It's only uncomfortable if you make it uncomfortable.

>no where to store food
Oats, powdered milk, fresh bananas, and jars of peanut butter. Fresh water can be acquired nearly anywhere.

>if it gets cold/hot you have problems
The cold isn't an issue. Heat on the other hand.. you can only take so much off. Thankfully fans are cheap.

>can't sleep well
Slept better in my van out in BFE than I do in my house.

>>17606577
Used vans are cheap. Lumber isn't that expensive - some even use PVC for framework.

>>17608373
>You're gonna have to eat shit for a while so be prepared.
I ate like a /fit/izen the entire time I lived in my van. Taste wise, terrible.

I'm bummed I never took pictures after my first build in the van. Once the novelty wore off I never really thought to take pictures. I do have pictures of the van parked in random places in the woods though.
>No pictures of my desktop PC in the van
>No pictures of the 32" TV
>No pictures of my blender in action
>No pictures of the books I read
>No pictures of the 5v DC fans I had running in the windows
>No pictures of the battery that leaked everywhere destroying the carpet where it was

>>17606340
>trying to live out of a sports car
Sell it and buy a cheap RV or even a van. RV recommended because you can live in an RV park. Vans are more mobile but you'll have to move from place to place to avoid cops.

>>17610121
>I do have pictures of the van parked in random places in the woods though.
Sounds like you spend a lot of gas money to get out there. OP doesn't sound like he's as motivated as you were in getting a van, using wood working skills to construct a living space inside it, and keeping away from law enforcement. OP is also stuck in the rut of believing that working is slavery.

>>17606259
OP is probably getting pissed off at us for trying to shove him off the couch to do something. With his talk about slavery, I wonder if he's one of those Black Lives Matter dudes that talks about how blacks are still enslaved by the system.

>>17610118
not for long lmao all of u fucking sv skids are moving to washington and ruining seattle

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>all these millennials bitching about how hard it is to support yourself and that the odds are stacked against them
The fact that you are trained enough to express your thoughts on text on a device that processes information electronically qualifies you for 70% of the jobs in this country.

I cut myself from the teet a year and a half ago and since then have been able to pay all my own bills (on time, I'll add), start and manage my own credit, buy my own furniture and go from a job making 21k a year, to 30k a year, to 53k a year in the course of 12 months, all starting at 20 and I'm now 21. The way I did this was attitude, of you feel entitled to a better job or position, without doing anything to earn it nothing will ever satisfy you and the odds that you achieve that position are slim. Since I was 14 I've had a mentality that a job is just a way to earn a dollar, and it's up to me to determine how many dollars an hour of my time is valued at based on my effort.

To keep it car related, I just bought this last weekend on my own with my own money that I earned by falling for the employment-jew. Try it sometime

Get a membership to a 24-hr gym with good showers. Sleep in your car. You can survive this way easily, providing you have a source of income or savings.

>>17610227
What in gods name did you smoke to consider buying that?

>>17610118
please, my personal plan is to ruin portland

>>17609622
>Lefty mongoloid
>Thinks his opinion matters
LMFAO FAMALAM

>>17610253
He's a tripfag, so most likely cock.

>>17606259
Wagon

>>17608614
This is basically me in a few more years desu

>>17606340
how do you have a new 718 if you're a neet?

>>17606922
That boomer faggot bought OP a fucking porsche

Get a job or go to college anon. Food, electricity, water, heating and cooling... it all costs money. You need to contribute, you're no longer a child

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>>17606259
>Dad is considering kicking me out
>I'm a little worried

Then you should stop doing the things that annoy your parents so much that they would kick you out. Living in your car in a homeless area is tough. Just wait until you discover the problems of pooping when there are no public restrooms and you have a lack of toilet paper and soap to wash your hands. Pretty soon your clothing is cross contaminated. You can't really smell yourself, but everyone else can smell you.

In a homeless area, even the tame cats don't look happy as you can see in the picture. There's lots of mice and rats, so that's why the cats hang around.

>>17609046
>The worst part is he has a car. He can *drive* to a job.
Can he drive? When he gets kicked out, I assume they stop paying for his expensive car insurance, license tabs, gasoline, and any car inspection fees. Without any of that, he can't really drive. If his city's police force have computerized cameras, those can autoscan the plates of cars as the officer drives by. My city has those and that has cleared the streets of cars with fake license tabs.

He'll also need a new mailing address since any mail addressed to him at an old address would be marked "Return to Sender, Does Not Live Here". Once that status appears in the post office computer, most of the mail will be automatically returned to sender due to the post office using OCR to scan and redirect mail.

>>17609080
but OP is 21. Also I live in a decent neighborhood in a house with a pool, not some ghetto. I have 0 complaints.

>>17610320
Because his parents are just as idiotic as he is.

>>17606322
why don't you get a job

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>>>/biz/2890206

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>>17610337
>Get a job or go to college anon.
OP has probably burned so many bridges with his parents and alienated any acquaintances that he has fewer options. His current method of relating to people is clearly not working.

I've been a volunteer worker before and have seen this pattern many times. A common complaint many such people on the cusp of failure have is that "I have the right to live!" but they don't mean that in terms of not being murdered or killed or sent to jail. Their context is that they have the right to have food, housing, clothing, social services, internet, and entertainment provided to them for free simply for existing as human beings. They don't think of the government as being an institution supported by the will of taxpaying voters. They think of it as a take for granted entity that is obligated to take care of them because they "have rights to life". I saw so many discouraging things that are basically unfixable that I lost heart and stopped volunteering. That's after like 20 years of it. Instead of decreasing, this type of mindset has become more prevalent year after year.

Major newspaper in South America:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folha_de_S.Paulo

Yeah, yeah, I know. A lot of usa citizens will go "folha de Paulo" what is that? There's such a thing as south america? Is that like south texas?

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>>17606576
>I never understood the neets, I get that the system is not ideal, but how can you not work or go to college, don't expect to get thrown out of your house

Because they have the MENTAL CRUTCH that the social welfare system will take care of them. The other problem is that words out of their mouth have no value because they have no commitment or sincerity to what they say.

What would the world be like if these high test individuals were running the USA in 1941?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor
Ahh, perl harber, too much trouble. Fuck it. Let it ride. Back to fapping.

If OP was in charge when Tibet was invaded, then Tibet would be part of China. Oh wat, it looks like OP was in charge. The next step is the chinese takeover of Doklam which is part of Bhutan (neighbor of Tibet). China has a Belt and Road Initiative which eventually aims to expand China's borders into the South China Sea thru island ownership and to have its own Chinese territory naval ports in the Indian Ocean and Africa. OP says "who cares?! Denouncing work as slavery is more important. Just like fapping all day every day."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doklam

Doesn't look like they'll ever get a job. We got thousands of them here too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVGg_5grOTg

>>17608484
>it isnt that easy for people these days

It has never been easy.

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>>17606626
He's here only because those websites don't have magic advice. He's here hoping someone will post some magic words for him to repeat that solves all his problems of being NEET for the rest of his life.

How will he pay insurance for that Porsche? Who will pay his cellular phone bill? Whenever the police sees him with a car, they can legitimately ask to see a Driver License and proof of insurance coverage. At that time, he'll either lose the car or his parents will take possession of it. But if he drove far away, it may get impounded and towed by the police, and the parents might have written the loss off as a lesson for their wayward ungrateful son.

Some parents officially disown a child. That's because the legal separation is necessary in case the parents die and that child tries to make a claim on inheritance. If the parents feel foul play is possible in their deaths, they should listen to their lawyer and disown in order to forestall any criminal benefitting from death.

>>17612484
>ferdfags will justify this
>MUH ALUMINUM MEME

>>17609328
>His dad probably just wants to get back to living his own pre-child existence and let the kid finally be a man.
Shouldn't have created a life then. It's entirely his responsibility for making a unilateral decision of creating a child.

>>17609629
>You don't have to take care of a child past 18.
You fell for a boomer meme. The US is one of the only developed countries where anyone even thinks this. Respect is earned. Kicking out your child doesn't help garner respect.
>le libruls
Enjoy your boomer brainwashing you cuck

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>>17608475
Lol, Freelance.

Granted Corporate loyalty means less now, like if you know what other people are getting at another company doing the same job as you, cross the floor, or use your new found info against your current employers to get what you want.

Granted you be a peon and demand that your job give you more with out proving your self

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>>17610320
He told them some insincere words they wanted to hear, so they got the Porsche for him. Once he had the car, he didn't follow through. Although I don't know OP, I can make this prediction with confidence because I've seen this pattern of behaviour before as well as having read about it being a frequent problem with children who were coddled into feeling entitled to everything.

Has OP abandoned this thread? Maybe he's making a new thread at some totally new forum site now. Reddit would jam a stick into his ass more cruelly than us here. This thread has been remarkably civil towards OP.

>>17606322
>I would use a library during the day for internet and warm indoor place. I would use my 24/7 gym to shower, shave etc. It can't be that bad.
Libraries are closed at night when it is cold.
The good gyms around here keep homeless out. They can and do cancel memberships for homeless here since having homeless come by means cars get prowled in their parking lot.

>>17611351
>>17612539
If he's serious about leaving he should sell the fucking Porsche. If he tries to sleep in it, it will get stolen and he will get raped.

Fuck just sell the car dude use the money to start a new life! How is that not the immediate thought he would have? If his parents are still paying for it I doubt they'll let him sleep in it, and if it's payed off and in his name he needs to sell it ASAP. OP if you're reading this, sell it, buy a shit box or a bike, get an apartment and start trying to get a job. I mean a 718 is like 60k, you're about to be homeless motherfucker you don't need a fucking porsche what is wrong with you?

>>17610121
>You'll already be paying for insurance, registration, and fuel anyways.
OP isn't paying for those things. His parents were paying. He doesn't work and doesn't have a work history. He's also old enough to have wasted any high school record preferred eligibility in getting into a university or college program. So it will be more competitive for him to educate himself as he has no sponsor or priority of eligibility. All that is OP's fault of course as he is the one that has been squandering the opportunities.

>>17612595
>If he tries to sleep in it, it will get stolen and he will get raped.
You don't have to park in the shittiest nigger infested ghettos every night before bed. You realize this, right?

>>17606259
Do you even own your car or is it registered to your parents? If it's not yours you won't be living out of it. They'll tell you to beat it and leave the car behind.

>>17610226
>fucking sv skids are moving to washington and ruining seattle
It's one of the admittedly fewer and fewer places in the country that doesn't persecute. But seattle is nearly at the breaking limit despite the rich people (allen,bezos,gates,etc) dumping so much money into the social service problems. Amazon even bought a property and then gave it to a charity so it could do its services in the downtown seattle area. But other states keep on sending their problems over such as prisons in other states busing their released prisoners to seattle. This makes the homeless population top-heavy in ex-cons and former criminals who were toughened up by the prison system.

>>17606259
>want to move out but my job only pays $11/hr and the cheapest apartment in the middle of the ghetto is about $800/mo. Boss is a Jew about overtime too. Can't afford college. Can't even afford trade school. Permanently denied financial aid because I took too many credits when fucking around a few years ago.

Life is suffering.

>>17610309
I sort of want to do this too. There are lots of classes I'd like to "audit" out of curiousity and the desire to try new things. The only problem is that the universities are full of foreigners who pay a lot. So I might be admitted but be unable to obtain classes because class registration has a perference heirarchy to assign classes to those who are majoring in that discipline.

A lot of college classes also have restricted access to only those who are majoring in that department.

>>17612605
>I would rather keep my $60K uncomfortable two seater sports car and sleep in the park and get arrested rather than have an actual place to live

Are you disabled

>>17612609
In America, that's a death sentence.

>>17606313
Moved out when I was 20, had to move back in once but the point is to at least make the effort.

If you don't start somewhere, you'll always be a failure.

>>17612678
The point is not to fail and come back, retard. The point is to finish college and then get a real job or enlist. To actually have a place in polite society rather than living like a fuckin' bum.

>>17612662
>Are you disabled
he might be if he gets mugged by the blacks here.
they like to kick your head and stomp your arms and legs so that you can't go after them.

>>17606313
>>17612678
I too moved out when I was younger. In fact, the very day I graduated I moved into my own apartment.

Huge mistake as it was a massive drain on my income.

Ended up going no where as I was constantly working just to sustain what some would call a life. Eventually dropped out of college when my car failed while 12 hours away from home. Didn't really drop out, but was failed due to attendance. Not sure to do this day why attendance was such a great deal, but it pissed me off. Never went back as I wasted tons of money on tuition and books. Parents made just enough so I didn't qualify for help, however most of their income went towards living expenses.

So I took up a skilled trade and make more than a majority of my college degree friends. Ages 18-22 were an absolute shit show but I finally got on my feet correctly around 23 or 24.

>>17612490
My guess is it was a woman that did that, they try to do like 10 different things when they refuel, instead of just refueling.

>>17612857
How do you get into a trade if you never went to a technical high school? People make it sound like it's free but all the trade colleges cost like $10k-20k for the 2 year program which granted is less than a four year school but still too expensive for me.

>>17612930
Get a cdl I am going to the school for about 1500 dollars but alot of trucking companies will train you as well its a decent living over the road for about 47k a year for a new driver

>>17608692
I award you the post that makes the most sense in this thread award

>>17606259
I know some guy that will pay you EVERYTHING,
but only if (You) join some racing team and win every race

>>17606259
>has a year old car with MSRP 54k
>complains about not having enough money

go sell your dumb shit porsche and use the money for something useful you dumb fag
get a 5k corolla and use the rest of the money to get a standing point

>>17606291
Join the military if you're too socially retarded to pass a job interview. Worked out for me, though I get paid way more than the poor bastards in the US military.

>>17612755
I got a job, the economy took a shit, and I had to move back in briefly, not that I preferred to stay home, I had no other choice other than the street.

>>17606340
instead of moving out, get a job and do chores around the house. indeed.com is fantastic for finding blue collar jobs, construction pays fairly well.

>>17606673
The world owes you nothing if you do nothing for the world. You can leave any time if you like.

>>17606259
>car

Trade for a truck quick. Gets a lot easier with a truck and can make it kind of fun while you figure shit out,

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>>17615542
OP is not informative. He makes it hard for anyone to bother helping him since he doesn't provide info about circumstances. Is that a downstream effect of his attitude of not caring much about anything? Or is it just that he's embarassed to say anything?

It seems easy enough a problem to solve, but OP seems to be dead set against working as he comes up with excuses that working is like slavery. But that means he must have a description to describe not_working as well. I'm sort of interested in what he describes as "not working" when he says "working" is slavery.