Mercedes drops V6 engines and switches back to the intrinsically

>>17591560
I'm starting to like mercedes a little more, bmw is still the king of based straight sixes though

>>17591560
Old news.

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>>17591560
Some more V6 BTFO for ya. this guy should've made the new GT.

>>17591560
v6 were never not btfo.
no need for this thread.

>>17591575
New news for me.

AND FUCK YES, CARS AND TRUCKS NEED TO GO BACK TO I6s, ESPECIALLY FORD!

They had based I6 in their old ass trucks and can go through hell and still make it out.

>>17591575
it wasn't for me, that's why I posted it
the new i6 mercs haven't made it here yet
>>17591568
agreed
I gotta say the 48V hybrid trend bothers me a bit though. Imagine having an electric malfunction and having the whole engine shit the bed because the water pump is electric. It also places even more complications for the guy who can't depend on dealerships because he lives in a remote location or a guy who just wants to work on his car himself.
>>17591600
Red Bull is so based. This is what Horner had to say about F1 V6s:
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/18536170/f1-focus-entertainment-technology
>>17591624
I'm glad it was news for someone else than myself lol.

>>17591643
>I gotta say the 48V hybrid trend bothers me a bit though. Imagine having an electric malfunction and having the whole engine shit the bed because the water pump is electric. It also places even more complications for the guy who can't depend on dealerships because he lives in a remote location or a guy who just wants to work on his car himself.

Yup, I feel like bmw and merc need to stay on the right track and stick to the types of cars/engines that made them so famous. It's cool that they like to experiment but hybrid cars are best left to the asians imo, buying a german hybrid is basically like buying a prototype.

>>17591659
I meant the 48V hybrid tech as a whole. I wouldn't buy one from the Asians either.

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Yea sure but how long, if ever, will it take for others to follow suit?
And how long, if ever, will it take for it to show up in an affordable sports car?

>>17591690
define affordable
also it's not like sports cars are the only cars that matter

>>17591560
Still ass mad that Mercedes doesn't use hydraulic tappets.

>>17591643
>for the guy who can't depend on dealerships because he lives in a remote location or a guy who just wants to work on his car himself.
Well at the same time you have to remember that cars these days are built for normies and people who can afford to pay someone to wrok on their cars. Personally I believe that cars maintained by the owner is rapidly coming to an end.
As someone who's first car was built in 1975, I really enjoy having a large engine bay. I used to think a big engine bay was a waste, but in reality it's really quite useful. Whether this has anything to do with the engineers not having access to FEM and FEA, I do not know, but it's useful.

>>17591600
Never even considering the Shit8, my man.

>>17591600
>solid mounting instead of isolating the vibrations of a hopelessly imbalanced engine like it's usually done nowadays
based

>>17591616
Nice break from crying prez/o/

>>17592916
Nice obsession

>>17591560
The reason they switched to I6's was because they started to produce to little V8's and too many inline 4's though. It's a matter of economy of scale.

>>17591560
>Manufacturer who's lineup is roughly 80% RWD "luxury" switches back to I6

What's a surprise! V6 is only good for FWD shitboxes with delusions of class, not actual quality cars

>>17593153
so they did the right thing for the wrong reasons
I'm okay with that

>>17593174
>What's a surprise! V6 is only good for FWD shitboxes with delusions of class, not actual quality cars
>this triggers the Audi fangirl

>>17593174
Which explains why Audi is even going so far as dropping the old 4.2 V8 for a twin turbo V6

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>>17593201
Audi BTFO

>>17593201
Well yeah, sticking an inline 6 ahead of the front axle wouldn't exactly be good for weight distribution.

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>>17593212
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmQAUJmvoBc

Yeah, a V6 is totally better in terms of understeer

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>>17593212
Well, it's not like they give a fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZLYse15cj4

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>>17593231
Audi is a fucking meme

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>>17593235
This is on the """"sports"""" version too, not some badgewhore bait base model

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>>17593219
>>17593231
>>17593235
>implying RWD and oversteer is much better

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>>17593241
Stay BTFO, VAG fangirl

Audi is nothing but a marketing scam that only badgewhores fall for

>>17593244
ayyy are you the author of that pic? lel
I'm the memeball author lol

>>17593241
>implying it wasn't the autistic petfucker's fault

>>17593231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8plO4AeKNU
Top kek

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>>17593261
Sounds like you knew I'm fond of Alfa :^)

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>>17593261
>>17593297
>V6

>>17593312
Just showing the power of not having a completely retarded drivetrain layout

>>17593261
this deserves wah wah wah sound superimposed on it when audi crashes

>>17591560
>i6 instead of V6
>Twin Turbo V8s

If it wasn't for all the fuckery Mercedes does with their low-end models, they would be my favorite.

>>17593312
>implying V6s can't be good sometimes
Don't get me wrong, I wish it was an I6, but that thing is like listening to a siren sing. Alfa has always made godly V6s, and this time Ferrari designed it. FFS, an anon here had to go to the cardiologist because the excitement of hearing it gave him tachycardia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLbwN08COlA

>>17593219
why are you posting that video as if its to say v6 cars/engines have bad understeer?

its fairly obvious the car understeered because of the speed/weather coming into the turn

>>17593379
To show having an engine all the way out in front of the front axle is a stupid engineering decision, which Audi only does so they can easily make FWD and """"AWD"""" versions of their cars

Not even a V6 with its better packaging compared to an I6 can save Audis from being pigfat, nose-heavy understeer machines

>>17593383
so you posted a video understeering as a fault of the driver to make fun of audi ?

>>17593411
Yes, that's what happens when you try to push an Audi beyond its (very low) limits

It understeers right off the track and into a wall, nothing you can do about it

>>17593411
>as a fault of the driver
top kek
the Alfa had no issues
from what I read in the comments that was an Audi test driver but it could be bogus

>>17593441
check the original video im responding to

not the one with the suv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmQAUJmvoBc this one

>>17593474
this cant be quattro, it did not even try to help, it's just a brick

>>17593482
nobody said anything about a quattro with that video

>>17593383
why do you say "and """"AWD"""" versions of their cars" when audi has one of the if not the best awd system currently

im fairly suprised i knew about benchracers but not benchengineers

>>17593474
my bad
still that's fucking sad, the thing didn't even begin to steer
props to it for barely getting dented at all though, I'd have expected a lot worse

>>17593502
>audi has one of the if not the best awd system currently
4Matic > quattro
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/c-class-w204/139684d1221740131-quattro-vs-4matic-4matic1.pdf
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/c-class-w204/139685d1221740131-quattro-vs-4matic-4matic-2.pdf

>>17593502
>fwd-based AWD
lmao
Audi crams the whole AWD system in the front because they don't believe in having center diffs and then these videos happen

>>17593504
its a fwd car so it did not exactly have any way to correct itself when the driver set the car up for a massive understeer situation

>>17593516
beat me to it, based

>>17593524
Ummm, that's quattro sweetie, 6:09. It didn't need to be towed out of the gravel trap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOA3h4PVclo
Also inline-6 porn at 10:43

>>17593590
Funny how every single Audi in that video comes in with a huge amount of steering angle and all of them still push out wide

Meanwhile the BMWs and Mercs look much more balanced with a fair few slightly kicking the tail out on the exit

>>17593606
well, they don't call it audisteer for nothing :^)

>>17591560
POST RB26

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>>17593261
Kek

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>>17593742
AHAHAHAHA, Audi fangirls on suicide watch

>>17593730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLYq5VZP3S8
:^)

>>17593312
And your problem is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2OlsCu1tfc

>>17593235
>>17593240
Literally why. Do they know that only soccermoms buy that shit and don't care?

>>17593976
Probably, they know badgewhores will buy anything with four rings on it, no matter how shit it actually is

>>17593931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wysO0nj2bMQ

>V6
>not Busso

>>17594003
>1996 155 V6 Ti

>Busso V6

Pick one. The Ti version used the 90º PRV V6, meaning it's a french engine with italian heads.

>>17591560
>how will they ever recover?
Probably by waiting until Mercedes head warping becomes a meme.

>>17591643
>red bull racing
>based
The only reason they said that is because there power unit manufacturer can barely compete.

God-tier based af I6, bow to your perfectly balanced overlords.

Don't believe me? Name one reputable semi truck manufacturer that uses a V6, go ahead I'll wait.

>>17595832
Does mercedes count? They built the 12 liter V6 diesel actros for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxoJk-T-Oc4

>>17596048

They did years ago, and I believe Detroit did in the 70's but no one nowadays uses them, everything is straight six. I have a DD15 and it's designed for 1 million miles without an inframe

>>17592930
Nice projection. Stay obsessed and anally destroyed.

>>17596064
detroit v6 were fucking godlike
318ci
listen to the fucker
sounds like a race car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21h7vnW1tIw

>>17595832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whXagelxg-8

listen to it purr
that instant throttle response too

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4nrokRanX4k

>>17595789
Yeah, that must be why the former chief aero engineer from Red Bull decided to put a V12 in the Aston he designed

>>17596069
I'm not even Prez/o/ lol, you're definitely obsessed.

>>17596167
Keep projecting.

>>17596175
>projecting
>deflecting

>>17596159
>2 Ford duratec v6's attached at the crank
V12s are irrelevant because they can't fit behind axles.

>>17596189
Lol, so obsessed.

>>17591560
This i6 will come with a electric turbo, can't wait to see how much turbo lag time it will reduce

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>>17596216
>if I keep saying it it'll become true!

>>17596848
Stay obsessed with your loose asshole.

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>>17596998

Neato

now all we need is bigger displacement i6's

i6/v8 master race!

>>17591643
>>17591659
>a guy who just wants to work on his car
It'd just be like the guys who only work on carburetors who consider fuel injection to be too complex. At first it was a niche and expensive technology for electric driven accessories, but soon it'll be as common as fuel injection. Can be said about most new car technology that can be really good

>>17597239
nah m8, it's orders of magnitude more complex

>>17597027
Nope.

>even non-AMG V8 cars will have their engines developed by AMG
noice

>>17591560
>lolpushrods

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From what I remember, the R32's engine, the Supra engines (both JZs, but 2 in particular), and other I6s can handle a surprising amount of boost and easily push out 500HP on stock internals, right? Is this because of the nature of the I6, or are those engines just built for power?

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>>17591560
god motor is back

>>17597403
>twitter
>alphonse trumpet
wtf is this

>>17597410
Kek

>>17591600
>>17593200
>>17593244
>>17593411
>>17593433
>>17595044
>>17596111
>>17597200
praise kek, V6 utterly and completely btfo

>>17596143
Sounds like a vacuum cleaner with grinding gears, not cool

>>17593219
>>17593231
kek
literally can't make this shit up

>>17591560
Boxer 6>I6

>>17602191
wrong

>>17603137
>implying
that's only unbeatable because that circuit doesn't exist anymore

>>17602191
V6>I6>power gap>H6

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>>17603462
>V6>I6

>>17603696
My bad, I thought the record was from before the reform.
Anyhow the only reason it hasn't been beaten is because no one has brought a LMP1 car there after that.

>>17603696
How much can I buy that car for?

>>17603955
If you have to ask, you can't afford it

>>17604661
nice one smartass

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Regardless if Merc changes to the God made Inline 6, that doesn't change the fact they do everything else fucked up. Like having 50 sensors for your trunk lid.

>tfw hope other manufacturers follow
>tfw they probably won't
>tfw new Supra will prob have V6 despite new footage sounding like inline 6

>>17591560
BASED

Jaguar needs to follow suit and return to v12 and i6

>>17606272
Their V8 is very nice though.

>>17593332
The low end models they sell to idiots funds all their nice models.

>>17606278
A v12 would be nicer though.

>>17606287
Definitely, but the V8 is nice enough to stay as a middle ground between the entry-level straight 6 and top-tier V12.

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Post your favorite mercedes i6

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>>17606297

>>17591560
is this diesel or gas?

>>17606341
both