https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone y/cars/2017/07/22/report

normies only buy SUVs now

and rednecks only pickups

>streamlining a product lineup to better meet the demands of the market

>What did they mean by this?
economics

the only car ill miss from that list is the impala anyway

>>17590821
>UAW President Dennis Williams said Thursday the union is in ongoing discussions with GM, Ford and Fiat Chrysler about falling car sales and how to keep the automaker's U.S. plants operating at full capacity.

if they stopped pacing their car with useless shit and stop developing new platforms every 5 years they could drop the price of their cars down to a decent price point.

>>17590837
Party like its 2004.

>>17590821
>gas prices will never ever be high again
t. burger

lmao why are my fellow lards so retarded? is it a prank?

>>17590864
The issue isn't price per say. It's the fact that almost all new car customers HAVE to finance to be able to afford a car. Dealerships are just as much a lending institution as they are anything else.

Things are fine when banks are willing to throw around sub-prime auto loans party confetti on new years, but when the loans slow down, so do sales.

And the UAW literally shits it's pants at any mention of slowing production. They'd rather GM slash out slow selling vehicles and ramp up production on the higher sales volume cars so they don't have to idle any production lines

I own a [fucking] LEAF, an Insight, and a S-10.

I can't wait to see people a few years from now, on the local news crying about how they can't afford to fill their SUVs.

>>17591125
What year leaf? How many bars do you have on it?

Who else ready to pick up a cheap as shit 3/4 ton trucks and 3rd row SUVs in a few years when the Jews raise oil prices again?
Actually no, they learned their lesson from the last time and from c4c. They'll do a cash for guzzlers and take in all of the 3-10 year old "guzzlers" to crush to cripple the used vehicle market to force people into buying new cars again just like last time. Mark my words.

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The CT6 is getting a refresh Escala insipired face and interior, Johan said there is no plan to kill it

>>17591146
2014, its my second LEAF I've leased. I had a 2011 before the current.

the 14 still has 12 bars. the 11 only lost one before I turned it in. I put 10,000 miles a year on the LEAFs. a few dozen DC quick charges a year.

Am I allowed to think less of people who buy SUVs without actually needing them?

>>17591162
ct6 plug in, is being made in china and exported to the USA.

Never even knew sonic existed

>>17591168
that's pretty good. Gonna upgrade to the 2018 one eventually? Should be 200mi+, with things like auto parking

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>>17590821
KILL SONIC AND BRING IT BACK AS 300HP RWD

>>17591181
Sonic/Aveo are made in korea.

>>17591185
no. I extended the lease on my 14. I get the first 3 months free. which should hold me over till I can get a model 3 delivered. Then I can turn the LEAF in and cancel the lease with no cost to me.

>>17591168
It's weirding me out that you're typing the name of the car in all caps.

>>17590828
>The news comes as sales of cars continue to plummet in the U.S. and as consumers increasingly turn to SUVs and pickups.

I may not be correct, but I guess it's those kind of people who think riding in a bigger car/truck will less likely be injured, which again is a stupid thought. Or they just want a truck because fuck it, everyone else has one so why not them?
besides GM's pickup sales started to plummet bad after that launched that retarded campaign of theirs, my guess is that "Chevy Shake" they never bothered to fix.

>>17591178
Yes, but the ICE one is built in the US

>>17591186
So a v6 mustang, or a 2010 mustang GT?

>>17591236
it is a backronym for, Leading Environmentally-friendly Affordable Family car.

>>17591251
LEFAFC

>>17591198
smart. Any idea where in the 400k line you are with the 3? Gonna get it in a year/6mo/what

>>17591287
well i'm not an existing tesla customer and I don't live in a mandate state. though I did make my reservation the morning of the first day. I'm also getting a single motor 60 model. so the calculator puts my delivery at December 2017.

https://teslanomics.co/model-3-delivery-estimator

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I'm from Dayton, OH, and my grandpa worked in the Moraine Assembly. M-maybe they'll reopen it?

(this will definitely never happen, there's an auto glass factory there now that employs like 1/5 of the original workforce, but I WANT TO BELIEVE)

>>17591839
for context, the Moraine Assembly made small SUVs like the GMC Jimmy, the Chevy Blazer, and the GMC Envoy

>>17590821

Can't wait for millennials to be blamed for this, to be quite honest with you.

>>17590821
looks like the next recession is finally arriving.

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hopefully one of those other 4 cars is the corvette so that GM stops embarassing themselves

>>17591242
Gas is cheap and Americans are cucks.
http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2017/07/usa-first-half-2017-rogue-cr-v-and-rav4-outsell-altima-civic-and-camry-in-crossover-rush/

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>>17590821
>it's a Mary the Waste Slayer episode
YASSSS, SLAY QUEEN!
This can only mean more awesome cars thanks to based Trump relaxing regulations

>implying you wouldn't

>>17592502
>being so desperate for pussy that you find that old hag hot

>>17592525
>implying she isn't
I would sink a Toyota shipment for a night with her

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>>17592502
she is so cute, I wish she'd punish me for all the GTR shitposting

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>>17592502
>Mary comes in her jumpsuit sweating after a track day in her Z06
>anon, I'm dirty after such an exhausting and hot day, you will have to clean me up
>"forces" me to lick her footsweet and her pusysweet
>strips me naked while I resist it and rides me

Toyota should take over GM like they did in the 80s, maybe they could actually save this shithole company from going down under.

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>>17592552
>being a footfag
like seriously? come on. it makes more sense than scat but seriously it's weird.

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>>17592552
moar pls
I wonder what her footsweet tastes like

>>17592558
>said the faggot
how to make a faggot fuck a woman? shit in her cunt

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>>17592563
niggerfaggot just got BTFO

he cannot recover

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>>17592563
why did you get triggered? it was a question
>>17592566
reported for racism

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>>17592573
grow a pair nigger

>>17592582
reported

>>17592582
this lmfao
>>17592573
I didn't get triggered. I'm not even a footfag, it just adds to the powerful woman fantasy. Doesn't make your faggotry excusable though.
>>17592573
>>17592588
you know announcing reports is against the rules don't you?

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>>17592588
grow a pair nigger

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>>17592591
There's nothing wrong with loving the male form.
>>17592596
reported

>how to keep the automaker's U.S. plants operating at full capacity
Here's an idea, don't make a ton of shitty cars? Why does GMC feel the need to have a specific car for everyone in the world? Stop making shit that doesn't sell. Look at how many goddamn SUVs they make.

>Yukon
>Terrain
>Acadia
>Equinox
>Suburban
>Traverse
>Tahoe
>Trax
What is the fucking point of having that many?

GMC makes too many fucking cars that don't sell.

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>>17592604
grow a pair nigger

>>17592604
I love the male form, just not in a sexual way. That's wrong unless you're a woman.

>>17592610
reported for racism
>>17592616
nope. gay sex is pure.

>>17592608
nigger, half of those are just badge engineered models
Back in the day there was a difference between GMC and Chevrolet but it's not the case anymore

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GAS IS CHEAP, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

TIME TO GET MYSELF A BARGEMOBILE 3500

I DON'T CARE WHAT TOMORROW BRINGS

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>>17592622
grow a pair nigger

>>17592623
>Back in the day there was a difference between GMC and Chevrolet but it's not the case anymore
That's what I'm saying. Why does GMC even do this. Just make three SUVs total. That's it. One under the GMC name and two under Chevy. What is the purpose of having that many fucking models.

>>17592622
pure degeneracy
>>17592633
they sell them at different dealerships
you don't see a Tahoe in a Cadillac dealership, but you see Yukons

>>17592636
Nobody cares what you think
>>17592629
reported

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>>17592638
grow a pair nigger

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>>17592502
>>17592552
oh my god

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>>17592638
>nobody cares what you think
>replies to my post

>>17592644
I want her to tie me up and gag me, put me in the trunk and give me a rough ride

>>17591125
>let prices of guzzoline hit rock bottom
>promote SUVs and trux
>retards gobble them up
>jack up fuel prices
>idiots trade their guzzlers in for fuel-efficient cars
>repeat until everything falls apart completely

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>GM fangirls are closet femdom fetishists
can't make this shit up, no wonder you cucks keep buying garbage V8s with pushrods

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>>17592667
ik it's pathetic

>>17592667
I'm not a femdom fetishist, but I'd love be Mary Barra's sub

>>17592667
>>17592670
go to sleep Alphonse

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>>17592502
>swn smother you with her tits
why live senpai

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>>17592667
s/o/viet here, I am no a GM fangirl and have a huge femdom fetish

huge as in I would fap to shit you couldn't even imagine

>>17592558
no kink shame pls

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BLACKED

GM fangirls btfo rotflmao

>>17592649
niggers can't compute logic

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>>17592688
>huge as in I would fap to shit you couldn't even imagine
like, getting pegged by a woman? because that's something I'd probably allow her to do to me. I can't think of a thing I wouldn't let her do to me. She's like an older Poklonskaya, so fucking hot.

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>>17592702
>She's like an older Poklonskaya
MOMMY

>a woman runs GM

I guess that explains why their cars are so shitty. Women know fuck all about cars.

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>>17592702
yes thats nice

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>>17592712
>I guess that explains why their cars are so shitty. Women know fuck all about cars.
>implying we haven't seen a GM renaissance since she took the job
Funny enough, she came with the same observation as you are making, about the shitty cars. Since then we've seen Cadillac coming back, stronger with each model. And now we're watching her slay the waste. Some Cadillacs have better interior design than many Mercs now.
http://fortune.com/2013/10/16/gms-mary-barra-to-staff-no-more-crappy-cars/

FUCKING DRUMPFH!!! FUCK DRUMPFH this is his fault!!! Fuck white people ur KILLING the PLANET!

>>17592712
but seriously, you didn't know she was running GM? She's one of the few successful women CEOs, unlike Carly Fiorina or Marissa Mayer.

>>17592730
>stronger with each model
Yeah, but is it prone to have a shit ton of recalls just like any typical GM car? Yep. She ain't slaying shit.

>Some Cadillacs have better interior design than many Mercs now.

Looks are just looks, and by the looks of it, it's just as equivalent as putting lipstick on a pig. They're trying to turn Cadillac into something it's not, a GERMAN car. Talk about originality, what ever happen to that?


I'll just keep watching the company sink until it reaches rock fucking bottom.

>>17592737
>successful

Ha, stop you're making me have an audible chuckle.

>first 6 months of this year
>sales have increased 11.5% for the Volt and 172% for the CT6.
Meanwhile the impala and lacrosse are failing big
>herp deep let's cancel production for all of them

Top kek. Can't wait until the Saudis allow oil prices to rise after Syria cools down. The idea of these thousand pound guzzlers rusting in people's garages due to fuel prices makes me moist.

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>>17592747
>Looks are just looks, and by the looks of it, it's just as equivalent as putting lipstick on a pig. They're trying to turn Cadillac into something it's not, a GERMAN car. Talk about originality, what ever happen to that?
they aren't though, have you looked at the autistic mess that German cars are currently?
The CT6 is as American as they come and a return to Cadillac's world class luxury roots.
And it's not just looks, it's ergonomics and user experience.
>>17592747
>Ha, stop you're making me have an audible chuckle.
She's been doing a pretty good job tbqh

>>17592787
>The CT6 is as American as they come and a return to Cadillac's world class luxury roots.
But does it sell? GM was mulling over reducing the number of models further. Some of the possible cuts are cadillacs.....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/07/22/report-gm-may-kill-chevy-volt-sonic-and-four-other-cars/501798001/

Impala demand has dropped 66% so that is terrible.

>>17592953
see >>17592773
also
>However, Cadillac President Johan de Nysschen told Jalopnik late Friday that the CT6 will not be phased out. Introduced in 2015, the CT6 is intended to serve as a flagship for the Cadillac brand.
>“There is absolutely, if I could speak all capitals now, they’d be coming out of my mouth,” de Nysschen, company president since July 2014, told Jalopnik. “There is absolutely no plan, at all, to cancel the CT6.”

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>>17592953
I'm worried about the CT8 project though

>>17592550
>>17592531
>>17592552
>>17592561
>>17592644
>>17592685
I really hope you're all being ironic.

>>17593233
I really hope your homosexuality is just ironic shitposting

>>17590864
100%. $2k for extra stickers, $5k for padded leather interior, $3k for auto climate control, and any truck with a respectable powertrain is the size of a fucking house.

Nigger, give me a midsize truck with a V8, manual transmission, power windows, and a backup camera for under $30k from the factory.

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>>17592502
>>17592644
>>17592702
>>17592708
>tfw I looked up Mary Barra leaks and apparently there isn't any
Hold me /o/

Did trump end cafe standerds already?

>>17593274
That comes later

>>17592622
put your trip on negro

>>17591839
Yeah, it's Fuyao now.

>>17590821
Moral hazard in action.

>>17592747
>They're trying to turn Cadillac into something it's not, a GERMAN car.
I think it's the opposite now. German cars are turning their reliable and well built cars into dog shit piles that fall apart after the warranty period is over like GM cars.

>>17592747
>They're trying to turn Cadillac into something it's not, a GERMAN car.
Why would anyone want to do that?

>>17590821
I swear to god if I see the big 3 pump out any more fucking "crossovers" or unibody ""SUV""s I'm gonna fucking shoot someone
>tfw due to safetycucks we will never have cool fast cars again that aren't bloated with features

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>>17593233
nope, I want her to make me her foot slave

she'd punish me for every Corvette shitpost I'd made

>>17590828
>>17590821
These people are going to be so fucked if gas ever goes up again.

Feels good having civic type r and a zx6r

>>17594280
>These people are going to be so fucked if gas ever goes up again.
Wealthy people are price insensitive towards gasoline. The only people hurt by $10 per gallon gasoline are the poor people and lower end of middle class.

>>17595227
A lot of the crossover and SUV market is middle class households making 70 to 150 a year that have shoestring budgets because of overinflated vehicle and home payments. An extra 30 dollars a week in gas compounded by price hikes on all consumer goods when transportation costs skyrocket will break those households today just like it did 12 years ago.

>>17595276
>compounded
This word does not exist in the vocabulary of most people.

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>>17594256

>>17592582
>grow a pair nigger
What is a "pair nigger" and how do you grow one?
Did you mean, by any chance, "Grow a pair, nigger."?

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>>17596204

>>17596276
This. I mean he's an even massive faggot for thinking that any of this matters on a damn image board.

>>17596308
>an even massive faggot
*an even more massive faggot

>>17592502
I'm so disgusted with myself right now.

WOULD
O
U
L
D

>>17596330
>I'm so disgusted with myself right now.
you shouldn't, anon :^)
any heterosexual white man would want a taste of her delicious pusy

>>17590821
It means that no one outside of commiefornia and jewyork city gives a fuck about electric cars or tiny American cars (you can just buy a much better Japanese car for the same price).

I'm so happy the electric car is dead.

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>>17596409
>it's an Americans-hate-their-most-successful-state episode

>>17590821
GM is a badly run corporation? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you. I had no idea.

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p-please don't get rid of me

>>17596430
When you steal all you neighbors water, have all the labor in your state done by people who don't pay federal taxes, but are still paying local sales tax into your economy on everything they buy, and you use the 9th circuit to enforce your bullshit mandates and immoral laws on the rest of the republic and still think their is anything good about your "success".

But this is not /pol/ so we should probably let it go before the nazi's and sjws show up.

>>17596409
The Bolt isn't in the list faggot

>>17596561
wow, that one actually looks decent unlike the one with the open headlights
a bit too VW-esque though

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>>17597044
forgot pic

>>17591839

Holy shit I'm from Dayton too.

WHERE ARE YOU?!

>>17597061
the sanic is a bit smaller and isn't a true 4 door

>>17596561
Dear God, chevy can't even copy properly.

>Let's take the 8th gen Civic and use that as a template
>Now let's make it uglier and less reliable
>Let's also give it a gigantic second grill, even though it isn't necessary

Pathetic

>>17597097
it looks bigger because uma delícia wheels are tiny

>>17597097
>>17597212
I just checked and it's not just that the wheels are the only thing giving the impression that it's bigger, the Fox is actually smaller than the Sonic lel

>>17590828
so they'll just make more hybrid suv's

i see tonnes here in aus

>>17591125
Why the fuck did you buy a leaf faggot

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>>17592685
iktfb

>>17597377
What is a "leaf faggot" and where can I buy one?

>>17595276
>middle class households making 70 to 150 a year that have shoestring budgets
That seems more like a myth that 70K to 150K households cannot make it in the current economy.

>>17591985
Well, honestly, automakers have been trying to get millennials to buy cars by designing car for them for years now and it hasn't really worked out very well. Maybe they will stop building cars specifically targeted at people that like don't like cars and go back to the days when they didn't alienate their entire consumer base.

>>17599867
If you make cars for people who like cars there's a chance those who don't will start liking them, but if you do the opposite people will just tell you to go fuck yourself

>>17590852
Channel stuff till the market implodes. Executives still get bonuses, union dudes get make work jobs for anoand the well positioned get cheap cars. Repeat every 10 years.

>>17590821
>Brobama forces US automakers to produce tons of shitboxes no one wants because muh CAFE
>New president takes office
>companies want to stop making low margin shitheaps that no one wants any way

Color me unsurprised.

>>17597377
Because it is cheap after incentives and low operating costs. Plus i get to use hov/hot lanes alone and for free.

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>>17593233
we don't around here newfag

>>17590936
>It's all da union's fault
Maybe if the upper class wasn't actively decimating the middle class so they can enrich themselves slightly more than they already are, there'd be bigger pool of people that could afford to buy things like cars without needed cheap easy credit.

>>17599768
Depends on the location. A family living in CA, CT, NJ, or NY will likely have a much more fragile budget compared to a family making the same in the Midwest or Southeast.

>>17592644
HNNNNGGGGGG

>>17596561
Drove a sanic/aveo once.

What a fucking miserable shitbox.

Felt like a real shitty import but with power windows and A/C.

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>>17599768
Those households also have much higher debt loads and a lot fewer options for mitigating that debt then someone making twenty grand a year and renting a shithole apartment. We have support systems, both nonprofit and public funded to support the latter, but all we have for the former is to take on more debt till it crashes down on you, or ruin yourself with bankruptcy. It's an ugly reality that the poor don't want to hear about because they are poor, and the rich, who are actively profiting on the interest and trade of that debt don't want to stop.

>>17602473
Well, their tax burden is only going to increase because the number of people on social welfare is always increasing AND the taxable jobs have lower wages than in the previous century when adjusted for regional cost of living changes and inflation changes. Jobs have also changed from manufacturing jobs with full time work and benefits to part time service jobs and contract labor jobs.

The only way out is to create a business and have that business run the household and car for tax advantages. In my city, some people make up really esoteric businesses such as a baby sleeping service for "babies" 1 to 5 years old. This house to house business gives an excuse to own the family car (a crossover) which is used for everything from shopping to trips and I last saw it taking the family skiing earlier this spring. Their house must be in my area since I see that crossover every now and then at the store.

>>17596330
Is it because she's a married woman and desiring another man's wife is a sin?