>actual engineers and city planners made this explain this

t.burger

roundabouts make sense when they are standalone, but double/triple/shitfest roundabout combinations are utterly pointless

Looks pretty good to me.

>>17583241
thing is, here in the UK the standard of driving is very high; the driving test is difficult and has a very high failure rate (in my area, the pass rate is 30%). The roads are narrow and rarely straight, and full of bumps and potholes. Because towns and cities are so densely packed and sprawl lie, the roads are twisty and sprawl-like as well. This means that in order to actually drive in the UK, you need to be a very good driver that understands the rules of the road. So this complex looking roundabout system is actually no problem at all.

In murrica all your roads are straight and you can be a 70IQ subhuman ape and still drive.

>>17583241
>>actual engineers and city planners made this

Government Union Employees (notice I didn't use WORKERS) are literally the worst

Traffic circles are cool when there's no traffic but if the road is busy, you end up waiting many times longer than if it'd been a redlight. They're also complete garbage for any combination vehicle as they usually end up needing to take up every lane, which only confuses and endangers every one

>>17583322
Isn't it a waste of time and resources to make everything more complicated than needed?

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>>17583322
>muricans r dumb because their roads are bigger, wider, and the rules are more common sense
yes ladies and gentlemen, yuros ARE this retarded

>>17583349
that's false tho
round about lets trough around 30% more cars in the same time span

>complex and confusing
spotted another burger with 70IQ

>>17583405
>>complex and confusing
>spotted another burger with 70IQ
Except nowhere in my post did I say they were complex or confusing.
Spotted another Eurabian with poor reading comprehension skills.

>>17583374
Ssshhh, let them have their delusions.

>>17583322
>The roads are narrow and rarely straight, and full of bumps and potholes. Because towns and cities are so densely packed and sprawl lie, the roads are twisty and sprawl-like as well.
>laughing_new-englanders.jpg
You ain't seen shit bro

>>17583374
We make do with what we have.
Few of the roads in the uk were created with motor vehicles in mind.
Many of the routes were formed hundreds, if not thousands of years ago. There are roads in use now that have Roman roads as the foundation.
The result is a mixiture of highly efficient modern multilane highways, narrow twisty county lanes and near impossible to navigate city centres.

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>>17583241

>Amerifats are so stupid they can't into roundabouts correctly

The other day, I saw a car drive three circles through a roundabout, but then I noticed a dog's head sticking out the rear window.

I think they were just fucking with their dog.

>>17583556

Canadians!

>>17583241
that makes perfect sense. You go around one and follow onto the next lane which shits you out at the next mini roundabout.

>>17583322
>bragging that your roads are shit and traffic is disgusting

Bongs are this delusional.

>>17583374
But the complication is actually needed, otherwise the present road structures and urban structures would be overloaded and other countries would descent into the same unsustainable gluttonous waste as the fat, lazy shitburgers.

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>>17583241

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>why ya'll gotta make things so complicated ya'll, easy things are the best things
>why ain't everyone paving twenty lane highways and hundreds of square miles of suburbs per city into the landscape?
>everyone should have access to driving
>our city planning is the best in the gawd dang world if I do say so myself
>debt? what debt? crumbling infrastructure? what does that word even mean?

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>>17583675
Non-Americans need a LOT more, bigger freeways

>>17583241
Europeans seem the need to over engineer everything. They've been compensating for losing the race to the moon back in the 60's ever since.

>>17583675
>ya'll
Fucking Eurabians can't even comprehend contractions. Learn the language.

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>>17583241
How did they mess up a roundabout so badly? What's with those mini roundabout within the roundabout?

They're so simple, how do you mess them up like this?

>>17583721
It's not like English classes have been replaced by Arabic classes in schools.

>>17583322
>here in the UK the standard of driving is very high
Mate stop chatting shit, the standard of driving here is piss poor.

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>>17583687
What for? All they do is increase sprawl and traffic. It now takes -longer- to get into Houston on the Katy Fwy than it did -before- the massive expansion, because now even more people move into the area and attempt commuting by car. Los Angeles has already given up on ever bigger highways and funnels its infrastructure fund into light rail expansion now. It's impossible to simply scale up a city by the same traffic principles as a small town. Everyone driving works for small towns, not for cities.

>>17583703
You can't lose a race you didn't attend. You're confusing it with the Soviets. And they beat you to space in the first place, despite not having all the German Jewish scientists to help them. You basically went to the moon on a German rocket.

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>>17583545
We have them here in the northeast of burgerland. The burgers around here seem to do just fine with them.

>>17583740
They also lost the race to mars.

>>17583740
>You can't lose a race you didn't attend.
>"W-we didn't lose! We realized there was no way we could win, or even finish, or even make it to the starting line, so we just chose not to race. "

>>17583744
Those burgers aren't the retarded ones that post on /o/ though

>>17583744
>The burgers around here seem to do just fine with them.

http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/east/2011/06/28/204259.htm

>Although the rotaries are built to ease congestion and lessen serious injuries, data obtained by the Albany Times Union show the number of collisions increased after most of the roundabouts opened in New York State’s Capital Region.

Fatburgers are literally too retarded to grasp roundabouts.

>enter when there's traffic
>enter in the wrong direction
>go straight across
>HWUTS GOIN AWN HEEAAR

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How could anyone actually have trouble with this?

>>17583744
They're in South Carolina too. They ACTUALLY DO fix certain intersections, especially at rush hour, when a dominate road is un-crossable.

I've actually seen a middle aged white woman go around a roundabout backwards. I was honestly mortified when I saw it because she had to take a turn steeper than 90 degrees to go left. Thank god it was only us two there and I wasn't in it yet.

>>17583769
>HWUTS GOIN AWN HEEAAR

This made me chuckle

>>17583769
Can confirm, all my roundabouts here in Georgia have tread marks on them from when hicks end up plowing straight through, usually while speeding.

>>17583769
>Fatburgers are literally too retarded to grasp roundabouts.
people here literally don't give one fuck about anyone else. it's hard to grasp but, running into someone inconveniencing you for 1-2 seconds is perfectly normal here. The whole yield to traffic thing doesn't happen.

What state in the US has the best drivers? They're fucking awful in CA, FL, all of NY, MA, NJ, PA

>>17583925
According to one study it's Minnesota followed by Ohio (Ohioans will disagree) and Vermont. According to another study it's Rhode Island followed by Connecticut and indeed Massachusetts (New Englanders will disagree on all), which alongside Ohio, Nebraska and Virginia (Virginians will disagree) were the only states to rank in the top 10 of both studies.

>>17583925
Drivers are bad everywhere, anon.

>>17583775
Looks like you're having trouble with it because you're on the wrong side of the fucking road half the time

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>>17583775

>tfw i was near swindon a few weeks ago and didn't get to go on the magic roundabout

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>>17584026
Alternatively if you're a scared wuss you can just take the long way around.

>>17583756
Do you assume every single reasonable poster is not an american?

>>17584130
Not him but that sounds logical.

>>17583675

that pic makes me feel a little dizzy

It make sense when you think about as a two-way roundabout.

>>17583727
They haven't?

>>17583775
Are you fucking retarded?

>>17584453
NO HABLO ESPANOL

Why didn't they just build a one gigantic roundabout?

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>>17583675
>all that fucking traffic
>all those fucking lanes
>all those rapidly appearing and disappearing lanes
>left lane exits and entrances
>automotive journalists and reckless faggot car YouTubers alike relentlessly complain about how their freeways aren't an autobahn

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>>17583322
>you can be a 70IQ subhuman ape and still drive

>>17583724
Says the guy who posted a picture of a round-about going the wrong way.

>>17584549
Weak bait, bong

>>17583467
Plymouth here, I don't go farther north than Weymouth for that reason. Last time I went to Cambridge I nearly had a fucking aneurysm the roads were so bad>>17583537

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wtf europeans

>>17583322
>roads are all straight
Excuse me?

t. Pennsylvanian

>>17583241
Roundabouts, even confusing ones are safer than intersections, which is why theyre growing even in the USA

Don't see the problem from a driver's point of view anyway, ZOOMing through a wide roundabout is fun as fuck, and tricky double mini roundabouts are kinda fun too like puzzles

Traffic lights make driving fucking boring, just start and stop when you're told - straight lines only. When I went to America the city roads were so boring and miserable its understandable why self driving cars will flourish there, because driving there is so braindead to begin with. before you get triggered, I'm sure there are endless twisties for fun out in the rural areas.

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>>17583322
>In murrica all your roads are straight

Are you fucking retarded?

>be burger
>have glorious freeway system
>no tax on having bigger high HP v8
>get from Vallejo to Sacramento in 25 minutes in middle of night
Where else can you have this level of efficiency? Yuropoors just mad because if they were as efficient as us they'd have more Kebabs.

>>17586011
That and they're now getting blown up more than we are getting shot

>>17586011
I mean to be fair to the Yuros, their cities have been around thousands of years and grew naturally over time, their nations aren't young like the US and able to look at other's mistakes and just start from scratch. This is why we're so successful, we were able to work from the mistakes and success they had.

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>>17583241
This stoplight used to exist in my town until very recently. The green arrow next to it indicates that you're allowed to turn right on red, the blue sign next to that says that you're only allowed to turn right on this junction.
The problem was that because of some wierd regulations, it had to be a stoplight, not just a stopsign and because of how the junction worked it wasn't allowed to turn green, it was permanently red.

This stoplight stood there for 29 years

>>17586658
A simple yield sign wouldn't suffice?

>>17586664
Techincally yes. But because of our traffic code, if one road on a junction has a stoplight, all other roads on it have to have one aswell. It's just retarded

Even more retarded, when the lightbulbs on it were changed, even the ones for the yellow and green light were changed eventhough they would never be turned on

>>17586705
But why did have that one a traffic light?

>>17583775
I'm fucking crying here m8

>>17583775
I'm still laughing at this.

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>>17586708
This is the junction in question. It's pretty busy so it would make sense why there would be stoplights there. The red dot is where the stoplight was. As you can see it's a pretty small road so a stopsign would suffice but as i said because other roads on this junction have stoplights, this road has to have them aswell. It just shows how retarded bureaucracy can be sometimes.

https://www.google.de/maps/@51.0542502,13.7583066,17z

>>17586740
And what is the reason it's not allowed to go green? Fitting it with a sensor would solve that problem you would think.

What the fuck Germany, this isn't Ordnung!

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>>17583241
>actual engineers and city planners made this
>freemasons made this

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>>17586748
I have no clue. I guess because it just doesnt need to turn green since you can turn on red and it would cause more traffic jams for nothing if it would turn green, since it would obviously become red on the big road. Who knows.

>What the fuck Germany, this isn't Ordnung!
Quite the contrary. It's just too much of it. And there are so many stupid stories like this that, it hurts.
Another traffic related one is this one: The Oststadtkreisel in Karlsruhe.

Looks like a perfectly fine roundabout, right? Well, it technically isn't a roundabout,it's a junction. That means that left yields to right unlike a roundabout and you cant change lanes in some cases. The city claims that it's not a roundabout because the traffic would be worse then but I don't believe it

>>17584692
It's a donut, you should have no trouble mastering it.

>>17586402
>their nations aren't young like the US and able to look at other's mistakes and just start from scratch
It's ironic because American urban planning is the biggest mistake yet.

>>17583675
is this some asian shithole?

american highways dont look like this

>>17586890
That's the The Katy Freeway in Houston.
Pretty sure that's in the US.

>>17586874
To be honest it looks like an intersection with a circle in the middle, and if one of the roads is a Bundesstraße it's important to maintain priorities.

>>17586890
>Americans don't recognize their own roadsigns

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>>17584692

it works like this

>>17586903

it's difficult for americans because of

>muh keep your lane
>muh freedoms on my lane
>muh fucking commies sharing and switching lanes

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>>17586903
The orange line of yours is a bit weird

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>>17583241
>driving on the wrong side of the road

explain this shit, in what world does this make any sense at all?

>>17586970
>guy in China looks down
>guy in America looks up
>both are looking in the same direction
You can't explain that.

>>17586925
This actually makes a lot of sense now. We don't have these multi-roundabouts here in Sweden but it looks like a good system.

>>17584026
what do those squiggly lines mean?

>>17585964
Look the other way? There might be some muscle cars in ditches from the first corner

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>>17586874
>stupid americans and there 8 lane wide intersections, don't they know that the superior roundabout doesn't need lights?
>roundabout still has lights

>>17584692
>the ultimate drift track

>>17587001
Did you even read the post? It's a circular junction, not a roundabout. Are you one of the 20% of Americans who can't read?

>>17583241
>keep clear

so... what do if i stand in front of it?

>>17587011
>circular junction
So A FUCKING ROUNDABOUT?

>>17583241
This is called a magic roundabout or something, from what i've read they're meant to be pretty effective because you don't have to circle round 4 turn offs to turn right; they're also meant to be safer but i assume that's because there is like only a couple working examples.

>>17587088
Circular junction =/= roundabout

>>17587082
You don't have a drivers license, do you?

>>17583241
as an american i support the building of such a thing here in burgerland.

if nothing else it would make for good youtube videos of people who can't drive.

also seems to make perfect sense to keep the flow of traffic going.

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Video evidence that Americans can use roundabouts the best and muscle cars can turn.

took me a good minute to understand wtf is happening here. Now I understand it, it looks pretty fuggin good. I'm sure some of the single toothed strayan' bogans here would be quite perplexed though

>>17583967
Massachusetts has fucking awful driver's. CT can be bad but holy fuck Mass drivers are so fucking aggressive

>>17587100
Not him but what the hell is the difference? One has lights and one doesn't?

>>17583728

You've never driven abroad if you think that's true

>>17586705
The level of retarded buerocratic bullshit in the EU is outstanding.

>>17587427
On roundabouts, traffic outside yields to traffic already on the roundabout.
On (circular) junctions, traffic yields to traffic from the right, so traffic on the circle yields to traffic outside the circle.

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>>17583241
In all seriousness:

The reason double and multi-roundabouts work is because they're meant to be confusing. When drivers are in a confusing or uncomfortable situation they tend to pay more attention. It makes sense actually, but it only works in advanced, well-civilized countries where people are generally better drivers. Put this shit anywhere outside Europe and North-America and people will run striaght across because they have no fucking idea what going on in the slightest.

>>17583349

>but if the road is busy, you end up waiting many times longer than if it'd been a redlight.

This is not true. In certain situations where you have 2 traffic slugs coming from different directions no amount of roundabout, stop sign, give way or redlight is going to help.

>Combination vehicles taking up more than one lane are confusing

How so? You see something that is obvious, and you expect the likely result.

It's like those burgers that see a tractor trailer 1000ft away, cut close to the curb, pull back out into the road, throw on its reverse lights and they still squeeze up right behind it wondering what's going on.

>>17586903

Burger detected.
Your orange line is wrong nigga wat u doin.

He would've gone straight over the first one onto the dotted lines.

Doing a u-turn on a mini roundabout is impossible, even if your turning circle were tight enough you'd crash into someone coming from opposite side who was expecting you to go straight over or turn left.

>>17583652
>Terrible antiquated infrastructure is the salvation of the western world! I swear guys?

>>17583730
>/o/ shouldn't live in big cities
Agreed. No one worth a shit would live in a big city

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>>17583322
>here in the UK the standard of driving is very high; So this complex looking roundabout system is actually no problem at all.

>>17583744
They are trying to put these in Texas and I legit saw some guy just drive straight through one with his lifted bro truck...

At least we have highways with 80mph limits

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>>17587727
>more roads'll fix everything despite all statistical records saying the opposite!

>>17583322

Your road layouts are actually well thought out, width is generally large, condition is deliciously smooth.

I agree you had a shit layout to begin with but you guys have worked wonders with it. If you visit many other places in the world you will realise that England has a top notch road network. England is my favorite place in the world for comfy driving, I lived there for 6 years and I have driven everywhere except the most Eastern of Midlands.

I mean we have a roundabout (there are only two) that tractor trailers have to go around backwards and the entrance to the roundabout is blind with two houses on either side. So truck man just lays on his horn and who ever is in his way just has to back up.

>>17584146
You've almost made me want flags here just to prove you wrong.

>>17583241
>explain this shit, in what world does this make any sense at all?
It is for a country whose drivers are actually required to pass genuine examinations. In america, if you claim your license was denied due to racism, you get issued the license. The level of skill needed to drive in america is miniscule compared to driving on narrow EU roads.

Sure, the USA has some tough examiners. But the applicant simply applies again and gets a new different examiner that is more concerned about having no complaints (especially racism ones). So that applicant passes easily.

America also has sanctuary states that deliberately don't check for citizenship such as washington state. Thus, illegal immigrants go to those states to get a driver license. It's way too easy to get a driver license in the USA.

>>17586886
>It's ironic because American urban planning is the biggest mistake yet.
The problem is the money under the table keeps on causing exceptions to be granted.

>>17583769
New Yorkers are notoriously horrible drivers, second only to New Jersey drivers who are downright suicidal.

>>17587418
Massachusetts has more varied drivers though. There's some outrageously horrible ones, and some who know what they're doing. NY, CT, and NJ are all garbage all the time.
Everybody in Massachusetts tailgates though.

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>>17583322
>Bongistan
>high standards in anything

Tell that to the suicidal Paki drivers

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>>17583775
The fucking right angle in the middle of the 4th mini round about. My sides are gone

>>17583241
People with legit autism should not be allowed to become a licensed engineer the same way autists can't pass oral portion of the bar exam or medical board exam.

>>17583241

>This kills the retard who was dumb enough to buy a manual

>>17583322
everything you posted has absolutely nothing to do with anything. get off the computer akmid.

>>17583675
>Tfw drive this highway almost daily

Its the widest highway in the world I think, honestly its really only bad during traffic hours or when theres a wreck. 85% of the time its moving 65-75 mph. 59, 290 & 45 are all way worse shitty highways you are more likely to get fucked up on.

>>17589084
Meanwhile the majority of cars in the UK are manual and no one has a problem with it.
Git gud.

>>17583322
<britain
>good drivers


lmfao no

t. londoner

>>17583730

>ridiculously wide
>barely anything comparable road to drive on/off from

Jesus fuck

>>17583241
Play this one at full volume:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M
and play these five at half volume:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M

>>17583241
Would you prefer a six way traffic light?

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someone approved this instead of a roundabout.

>>17586993
>looks like a good system
> a series of dizzying donuts and lane changes
>for just one intersection
Personally, I hate traffic circles, but I also understand the logic and reasoning behind them. When your shit gets this complicated for a single intersection, it's time to bite the bullet and put in a traffic light or two.

>>17590873
oh fuck slow it down to .5 speed for some sick vaporwave

>>17584130
Yes.

>>17585964
What's the betting that has a twenty limit not sixty mph?

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>>17591389
what the fuck

>>17586970
It's down to not being cucks to the french army.

>>17592165
I mean, I get that the four biggest turboshitters are burgers but it's not fair to judge the rest of us from their posts.

>>17589361
Try driving in Paris, LA, NY or Rome. The only places I have driven with as good a standard as the UK are Japan and Germany.

>>17583775
Christ alive.
Honestly, is this bait?

>>17591389
>>17592184
I don't know specifically where this pants-on-head intersection is, but in most states, you can turn right-on-red as long as you come to a complete stop, and yield. additionally, each of the 3 through-lanes should have their own turns in the traffic light-cycle while there are "right/left turn only" lanes in the larger main roads.

But still this is a pretty retarded intersection, even by MURIKA fag status. Most major cities in MURKA are built with a street grid, because we anent designed around 300 year old goat paths like ewwwwwrope

>>17592214
>Try driving in [...] Rome.
Don't remind me. I wasn't even the driver and I still have nightmares of the three lanes turned into four car lanes and three scooter lanes.

>>17588668
To be honest for their traffic density they're not that bad. The only reason Nebraskans seem like better drivers is because there's no one to crash into when they veer off the road drunk.

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>when you came up with the most retarded solution possible so you can overprice it and get a cut because an under the table arrange with the contractor

>>17587604
>everyone I talk to from out of state complains nonstop about Michigan lefts and refuses to acknowledge their superiority

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>>17593346
I didn't mean to memetext that

>>17583467
>>17583322
>laughing_appalachians.jpg
not to mention blind curves before bridges so narrow that only one car can cross at a time, random patches of unpaved road, and narrow, blind bridge underpasses where a hand painted sign tells you to stop, honk, and check the convex mirror that is tied to a tree
>still better than driving in New Jersey

>>17591389
>>17592648
>Decatur, Georgia
You're welcome

>>17583241
if you're too dumb to figure that out, you're too dumb to drive

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>>17583775
Don't even know what I'm looking at here

>>17583785
They put one in the middle of fucking nowhere near Darlington because some bitch killed herself running the stop sign and no one understands how to use it, I've seen about 7 trucks just drive over it

>>17583675
>>17587782
Whenever I see photos like this I remember the start of Terminator 2.

There's a traffic jam in LA in the heat, then a white flash. Next scene is skeletons in burned out cars. Scary shit.

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>>17583241
I HAVE BEEN IN THIS PLACE BEFORE

>>17587099
This is *the* magic roundabout, as in the roundabout in Swindon. The one in Hemel Hempstead is called the Plough Roundabout. Probably because people plough into each other on it but w/e.

I think they're great. the morons can't grasp the idea so i go the "wrong" way round it and skip all the traffic.

>>17593349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fshW_O_XggI

Just look how much traffic Telegraph pushes through. It is the way to go.

>>17594060
It's strange seeing all the roads I drive on every week being featured in a video like this.

>>17583740
>Americans went to the moon on a German rocket

Please, the Russians R-7 based rocket family which was used in pretty much every soviet space mission and still has derivatives in use today is literally some oversized V-2s strapped around a central core

>>17594060
Telegraph is an excellently designed road. Traffic never has to touch the brakes in a travelling lane for anything other than a red light. The only thing threatening it are the recent influx of Canadian left lane nazis who think no one but themselves should ever be in the left lane on a surface street and speed and tailgate to try and scare people out of making their turns.

>>17583322
I actually believe that in the US the tests are so easy is that more people get on the road. More people being allowed to drive = more new cars sold. More cars on the road = more focus on road infrastructure

Some people are seeing huge profits from these easy tests and would do whatever it takes for it to remain this way