China has LeEco, NIO, CHJ, Zhiche, Youxia, Qoros America has

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Cars you can actually buy.

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real cars?

>China has econoboom startups that'll fare god knows how well or badly
>America has Silicon Valley startups that are potentially set up to be vaporware all along purely to make their founder richer

>>17581523
> China
Many of those companies are planning and or are already building factories
>America
Lucid is being bought by ford, karma and Tesla sells cars, FF is fucked

And Europe has?

>>17581504
>What does Europe have?
Volvo is planning to go all electric pretty soon, Opel got bought by PSA and will probably get turned into their all-electric brand, VAG is working on getting their own electric cars off the ground, as are BMW and Mercedes, and Renault already has a complete electric lineup alongside their ICE lineup.

t. yurop

>>17581533
>Volvo is planning to go all electric pretty soon
No they are not. They're planning to go hybrid and/or electircally driven turbos.

>>17581537
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/05/geelys-volvo-to-go-all-electric-with-new-models-from-2019.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/07/05/volvo-becomes-first-major-car-manufacturer-go-electric/
https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/07/volvos-electric-future/532659/

They've already dropped every single engine except one with various different tunes and degrees of electric assistance, dropping internal combustion altogether isn't a large leap.

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>>17581530
Cars that are simply being built instead of making a gigantic hype around a few digital renders of Silicon Valley vaporware. Americans fall for the marketing of these hype machine startups sooooo easily.

Porsche, Aston Martin, Ferrari, Lamborghini and maybe Lotus

>>17581567
oh I didn't even realize all those names made electrics until after my post
whoops

>>17581537
This is false. Volvo is planning to build three different types of electrified vehicle with launches starting in 2019. Regenerative braking only, plug in-hybrid, and full electric. All new vehicles launched after 2019 will be one of these three.

So far, Rimac, Venturi, Lightning, COURB, and Bollorè, those are just the highway capable cars.

>>17581595
And that only counts the pure electric only makers.

>>17581510
Cars that actually break down.

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Thinking about starting my own vaporware EV start up purely as satire.
>Just like your dad's old truck. But better.

The public transit infrastructure to support the transition away from fossil fuels .

>what does europe have
fun cars

>>17581576
>Regenerative braking only
What's that supposed to mean?

>>17582429
Mild Hybrid.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mild_hybrid

>>17581545
>rimac
my nigga

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>>17581504
Which one do you think will start production first?
This, or the "first mobility ecosystem on wheels" (LeEco).

>>17581504
>China has LeEco, NIO, CHJ, Zhiche, Youxia, Qoros, Karma, Lucid, Faraday, Fisker, possibly Rivian
>America has Tesla

Rivian is a stealth-mode company that apparently has funds from unknown sources. It can't be one of the major NA companies because those would put out the EV under their own names for the carbon, tax, and MPG credits. Rivian already has a portfolio of electric car patents, so it presumably is backed by the chinese who have ripped off the patents from other vaporware startups that were created to develop patents. One can't just put out EV cars without control or licensing of all patented content in the car.

>>17581576
Wrong!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWmnUuuCdEo

>>17581530
>Lucid is being bought by ford
Lucid was publicly refused by Ford. However, Ford is still looking at the numbers. Lucid doesn't even have a stable design after all this time, but it does have a lot of buyout debt due to golden parachutes and employee stock options. Another worry is how their patents and designs are owned by a separate firm (chinese financed via japanese banks) and licensed back to Lucid. This is worrisome as it means exclusive patent enforcement is likely not possible. Buying it out is basically paying off the patent holders who then use the money to open up a rival EV company in one of the abandoned car manufacturing factories.

>>17582809
>Patents owned by the Chinese

How? BYD sold their stake to Jia Yuting/Faraday who sold it to an unknown investor

>>17581504
Who is this Rivian? It has mystery investors with deep pockets and EV patents that are non disclosed as of yet.

>>17581504
See
>>17581513

Cars that don't exist aren't cars.

>>17581513
Exposed turbos like that turn me on

>for sale now
Renault and BMW
>near future
VAG, Volvo, Rimac, Mercedes

>>17586729
>e-Golf
>e-Up!
>Smart ED
>B-Class Electric Drive

>>17587369
Those are Hybrids, not full electric.

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>>17581504
>Faraday

>>17581504
Europe has Akrapovic.

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>>17587385
no they aren't idiot