>2017 >still scared to buy american >he wants an offroad

whats even worse are people who buy subaru's and plan on "going offroad" with them

i guess i should use this thread to explain common mistakes that idiots make when purchasing a vehicle they plan on adventuring with....

>>17524777
Tell America that I want an offroad capable vehicle that I can depend on to get me in and out of where I want to go, then I'll think about it.

toyotas are good offroaders

>>17524799

alright fags, listen up

1.) you need ground clearance.
through large tires. this is the absolute most important thing when going offroad. its more important than having 4wd. its more important that having a lift.
your tire is what gives you total ground clearance, but also, is what navigates through hazardous obstacles. the bigger your tire, the smaller the obstacle becomes, this is very prevalent even a single additional inch will make or break the next dip in the ground, or large gouge, or rock.

2.) forest routes in all the good states (CA, OR, WA, UT, NV, CO) and canada require this ground clearance. these states are much different than the faggot shit you are used to if you live anywhere in central america or the east coast. get the idea of buying a subaru out of your head. its not going to work anywhere around here

3.) nissan is junk. just stay away, or learn the hard way.
they use sintered metal gears on the differentials, this is a main driveline component which is both prone to immediate failure and prone to premature wear. and is more costly to fix than an automatic transmission. nissan is absolute junk for offroad. and they don't even have large engines, you need a large engine when going uphill, and you also cant tow anything with a nissan.

4.) toyotas are not really made to handle any of the good places either. you are in for some trouble if you take any pricey toyota shit out here, unless you can really afford to fix something major. dont do it. it will happen, you will be fucked. make sure your toyota didn't cost you more than 5 grand if you plan on coming out to any of the good states

All American cars are garbage. You can thank unions for that

>>17524921
>>17524777
I can only speak for small trucks here but,

TACOMA
A
C
O
M
A

Although only the pre-2004 and then only if you live where snow isn't common or you know the frame was replaced under warranty which is still available free for post-2002s

Reliability wise the original engine and transmission can be expected to run for 300,000+ miles with nothing except regular fluid changes and a preemptive timing belt change if you go with the V-6, if you go with something newer than 2004 the gen-2s tend to have minor rust issues and and the ball joints will need to be replaced at 150,000mi, however the engine and trans are still as solid.

The reason the Tacoma is more expensive than the Dakota or Ranger is because your getting a truck that will on average run 25-30% longer, the both of the other options will have transmission issues starting at around 150,000 miles, and the engine starts to go at 200,000-250,000 (180,000 if you have a SOHC in the Ranger), the Tacoma ends up being cheaper in the long run due to needing less work done on it, however that metric might change depending on how much work your willing to do yourself.

I live in northern nv and my f150 has gotten me through some crazy places, shes been tough and reliable for me so far.

>>17524777

American Top Gear taught me that a small Toyota will do more offroad than a dodge, a ford, or a chevy.

>>17524921

>toyota

Nigger have you seen what the technicals in afghanistan and iraq? If that doesn't prove Toyota's reliablity I don't know what does. Those fuckers attach AA guns to the beds of your average Tundra or Tacoma and they run motherfucker.

If they can handle the dunes of Iraq they can definitely handle any baby trail in America.

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>>17524921
>the good states
>literally all cuck states with shit laws and crazy high taxes
Maybe good for visiting

>>17525586
This
The faggot in that post is delusional if he thinks his little forest trails match up to these places

>>17525295

shit dude, that reminds
there is some top secret ultimate offroading in this specific area of nothern NV
and im not even talking about the ruby mountains

this place looks amazing

>>17525586

you are stupid to think any toyota truck made after 2004 is going to be good

really fucking stupid

enjoy paying that chinese mount sirabachi toyota tax for general ford-tier hardware

>>17525586
>Nigger have you seen what the technicals in afghanistan and iraq?
Yes.

>If that doesn't prove Toyota's reliablity I don't know what does.
It does. Not at all.

>Those fuckers attach AA guns to the beds of your average Tundra or Tacoma and they run motherfucker.
Attaching tops a few hundred pounds to the bed of a truck does not affect it's ability to run. This means literally nothing to the reliability.

>If they can handle the dunes of Iraq they can definitely handle any baby trail in America.
Dunes are harsh on people, not automobiles. All you need is a decent cooling system and air filer and dunes are nothing.

The terrorists use them because they're available and common there.
Stop entrusting literal goat fuckers to figure out what truck is the best.

>>17525265
>The reason the Tacoma is more expensive than the Dakota or Ranger is because your getting a truck that will on average run 25-30% longer
Buy a 1 ton truck and it'll last 100-200% longer under the same usage.
If you baby a Ranger the same way the average Taco owner babies his Toyota, it'd last just as long as the Taco.

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>>17524921

>>17524921

should also mention
standard truck tires installed on most full-sized trucks are adequate. going an 1-3 inches above this is ideal.

these are very large tires, and will do just fine.
you don't need 4wd unless you are planning on doing jeep trails. and 4wd is mainly for negotiating obstacles while on an incline.
you can visit about 90% of these areas with 2wd alone.

>>17526017
>If you baby a Ranger the same way the average Taco owner babies his Toyota, it'd last just as long as the Taco.

quite true, but also notice how taco owners are actually babies themselves
they buy japanese because they need that safe-space. they always need to be assured something isn't going to break. they need this assurance because they don't actually know what they are doing.
owning a toyota is like a giant red badge of mechanical ignorance.

literally for children who do not belong offroad

>>17524777
>>17524921
Ever heard of a Land Cruiser you poor stupid fuck? Hell even a 4runner with a few mods is a more capable vehicle than most amerishit, and i'm american.

>>17527769
Weaboo

>>17527752

also, you cant take most of the good (pre 2004) tacos offroad without bending your frame anyway. so they are literally worthless

its extremely easy to bend the rear bed

>>17527769

>safespace japanese baby tank

ever heard of a ford f150?
literally just as reliable, only you dont end up looking like a commie faggot on the trails

hey everybody, look at me, jap boy needs his reassurance! vroom vroom! lol

>>17527963
>engine starts to knock at 80,000 mi

No thanks amerishart, I'll stick with my superior jap trucks.

>>17527963
>cares what he "looks like" on the trails

American truck owners everyone

>>17528121

>get stuck on trails
>expect someone to help your antifa faggot ass out

just look at all that reliability bro

>>17528148
https://youtu.be/m-NXqi9UT6g

>>17528148
Lets be honest here, getting stuck is more of a matter of having shit tires or being stupid, if your not an idiot you should be able to get out of pretty much anything you get yourself into, mechanical failures are really the only thing that can hit you out of the blue which is where most Jap vehicles rise above their American counterparts.

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>Toyota "reliability"

Top kek

>>17528324

you don't really know how mechanical failures work tho. they don't ever happen unless you're an idiot
and toyota has been producing plenty of shit since 04
you just don't hear about it because toyota of america corporation knows how to keep its image razor sharp.
talk to any toyota mechanic who has been working at least 10 years. all kinds of pricey failures left and right

toyota owners are about the dumbest they come

>>17529049

of course you never hear about when a toyota fails, because all their owners are simpleton faggots who drive 90% highway miles, none of them are actually put to work like american trucks are. literally none of them.

toyota of america also suppresses the shit out of plenty of things which should be a TSB
they like to specifically hide things that go wrong

>>17529063
how assmad are you? did a toyota exec fuck your gf or something

>>17529040
As a Taco owner, if you got the truck in during the warranty period, (15 years/unlimited mi), Toyota would replace the frame for FREE, and provide you with a rental truck while it was in the shop, people who didn't take their truck in are idiots.

>>17529094
this.

wtf, OP. toyotas can be good and so can fords and chevrolets.

>>17529127
>Chevy

Nigga wat. Show me a good Chevy truck that came out after 1994

>>17529144
V8 single cab chevrolet colorado

or that pickup ute that looked like a PT cruiser

>>17525586
>If they can handle the dunes of Iraq they can definitely handle any baby trail in America.

>(you)

>>17529040
they reliably rust

Imagine being this buttmad because you couldn't afford a Toyota.

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Show me harley davidson and indian's extensive lineup of dirtbikes.

*blazes past you and your spotter while you figure out how to get all four wheels over a funny looking rock*

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>>17529102
>people who don't like toyota don't know anything

surprise

also, pickup trucks aren't meant for severe offroading. they're for carrying shit down roads, sometimes shitty roads, but roads for the most part, not ultra-technical trails and rock crawls. they're too big to be called offroaders. too big, too long, too heavy, and too wide. they're more like chunks of iron.

>>17527752
>>17527808
>>17527963
The only fucking difference is that one requires more maintenance then the other. If you want to look at the same car interior for 300k mikes then be my guest. I'd drive a Jeep for as long as I'd drive a Taco or a 4Runner before I'd sell it. Hell, I'd probably keep the Jeep longer. There's no reassurance just, longer maintenance periods. Buy what you want just don't be a fucking dick about it.
>inb4 you drive X.
I've driven a little bit of everything.

>>17529040
Please specify by saying "American Toyota". Real toyotas are higher quality than what comes out of that place.

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>>17529381
grow a pair... of 5 ton axles.

>>17529404

looks completely useless unless its driving forward

>>17529404
I'll just wait until you can't get through a trail because there's some trees spaced 6 feet apart...

>>17529127
This.
>>17529314
No cup holders.
>>17529381
This especially. Off-roading trucks bigger than a 1500 are the biggest meme. Trucks during the winter are an even bigger one. Mine can hardly handle both.

>>17529424
That's what chainsaws are for. Too bad they're probably illegal there. If your trails are that narrow you'd have more fun on a quad or dirt bike anyways.

>>17529426
>No cup holders

Beer hat.

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The real off road champ

>>17529447
Camelback full of monster energy.

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Just get a Toyota, they're perfectly capable off roaders.

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im just going to leave this here

>>17524777
American SUVs handle like shit, are unrefined, depreciate like a mofo, do 4mpg and are LHD only, you can keep them.

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>buy offroader from any country that isn't Russian
Are you perhaps a bit mentally retarded?

>>17529802
Trust me, If we could get new Nivas over here in Burgerland, I'd swap one for my Taco in a heartbeat.

>>17529825

dont sell yourself so short like such a fag

you can buy real military humvee's with low miles and upgraded engines for 25k here
and a humvee is literally the king of offroad

that russian garbage truck is nice, but much rather have a real humvee

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>he believes japan makes good trucks
>he takes japanes trucks offroad in america
>he really thinks japan knows how to build a proper offroad vehicle

>he doesn't recognize america as king
>he posts 3rd world garbage

>>17529147

>bonestock

P O S E R

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>he actually bought a japanese truck
>he could have literally bought this instead
>it will last 3x longer than any japanese truck
>its diesel
>the entire drivetrain is beyond bullet proof
>literally over 400k before you even need to replace a wheel bearing


>believing in the japanese reliability meme

>>17529102
It isn't even a Tacoma. It's a 91 hilux. Which ALSO had timing chain chatter. Toyotas aren't any more reliable than any other vehicle.

>buys a nippon offroader
>8 years old 10 grands
>what could go wrong. Japs are reliable
>frame snap in half on a parking bump

>>17529497
Do you consider kmart parking lot offroading? Because I'd agree with you on that.

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>>17529802
Based Unimog when?

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>>17529783

black color

>>17530065
Just hear me out here, sure the Humvee is better for pure offload capability and the initial purchase price is low relative to it's capabilities, but your going to get Jewed with any repairs due to rare and expensive parts and you would need to use and carry an asston of diesel to get anywhere which gets expensive if you have to drive any distance.

Something like the Niva on the other hand,(assuming we could import it), is designed to be a cheap offroad shitbox, new examples would be apt to go for around 8-10K which make it competitive to get new over something used and due to the fact that it's used worldwide and the design hasn't changed much since the 80s, parts are cheap even if you have to import them, in addition to that since it's so light with large tires you have insanely low ground pressure so it pretty much just floats over mud and other obstructions. Sure it's not massive and doesn't have much engine but it's essentially a modernish Suzuki Samurai, it's not made to pull trailers or haul shit, it's meant to get you and a few other people to a remote destination and be easy on your wallet.

>>17530893
>essentially a modernish Suzuki Samurai
the Niva is from the '70s what the fuck are you on?

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>>17525742

>LOL NOTHING MADE AFTER [ARBITRARY YEAR] IS GOOD
>BECAUSE I SAID SO

Faggot I have an FJ Cruiser with Prado/Taco/4Runner guts and it's bulletproof. My friend drives one as well, his is a 2008 with 344,000km on it. He's replaced the steering u-joints, front bearings, and a piece of line that runs to the transmission cooler. Total repairs over that time span haven't even cost him $1,000.

You're a dumb nigger and a child, go play with your lifted Ford you triggered fuck.

>>17530999
>cherry picking the FJ

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>>17531006

>making a blatantly retarded post that blanket shits on everything Toyota
>ignoring the best large production offroad vehicle to sell in North America in nearly 50 years

About the only thing stronger were the original Willies Jeeps, which were built for actual warzones.

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>>17529063

Unlike GM or Ford who tell you straight up that your gas tank will explode from minor rear-end collisions and burn you alive, or that your car will shut itself off on the highway doing 90mph and you won't have any steering or brakes or controls at all.

Jej. Yes, American companies sure are known for their integrity and build quality.

>>17530144
>Toyotas aren't any more reliable than any other vehicle.

[citation needed]

>>17530091

That's why America asked Toyota to build their vehicles during the Korean War, right bruh? lol.

>>17525265
>tfw bought my dumbass uncles v6 prerunner for like 2k when he went to jail
>bout to hit 200k
>runs like a fucking champs
feels good

Since this is really a shitposting thread anyway I figured I'd ask a question.
Are there any small, sporty cars that don't get shit gas mileage?

>>17530979
The Nivas started production in like 77-78 and the Gen 2 Samurais that we got in the US started in around 81 so they're not that far off in terms of development.

What I mean by "Modernized" is that it's still in production and can be bought new, in the US we were only able to import Samurais from 85-95 so all of the ones here are reasonably old, plus most of the new Nivas come with an EFI engine rather than carbed which is welcome for reliability.

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>>17524777
what part of nevada are you from and more importantly what's your mos?

>>17530111
>the entire drivetrain is beyond bullet proof

Don't those eat cv axles because of the inboard brakes?

>>17530111

>beyond bulletproof

Lots of legless soldiers would disagree.

>>17530893

i hear u nigga
and u true

but the humvee is a thousand times more awesome.
just look at it.
its king of the dirt road

>>17531016

dude nobody actually takes those offroad
they all sell in CA and normal people buy them. they are way too pricey to actually use offroad. have never, ever, once seen one of those on a trail which is difficult but within its capability. literally have never even seen one of those on dirt.
you can find a used one with 220k miles (not eurobitch kilometers) for just a shy under 10k burger dollars. (which is a ripoff).
those vehicles last around the 220k mark before needing a new engine and tranny IF they have been properly maintained. and you cant get a quality reman on those, you have to go to ultra mega shit LKQ and pay more money to get ripped off, or you can pay stupid money for a rebuild kit and have a machine shop do some work it.
its no where as affordable than just rebuilding an american truck which is 10 years and older

also, plenty of american trucks outlast the FJ in both engine and transmission life
not everything toyota makes is a miracle machine designed to run in 3rd world sand storms while hauling a bunch of chinese garbage and no oil change in 500,000km

swear to god, you toyotafags are so delusional

>>17531047
I owned one, for starters. Also, did you miss the factory recall for rotting frames? They aren't any better or any worse than other vehicles in the same class. They just have engines that stand up better to abuse. Literally every Toyota pickup I've seen has had rotting fenders and a bed made of swiss cheese. 4runners seem to fare a little better, but not much.

>>17531354

>the furious 17 year old continued to shitpost
>despite being BTFO by irrefutable evidence that Toyota makes better vehicles than his daddy's American shitbox automaker

OK kid, keep shitposting. See if that fixes the bodyrot and fried electronics in your RAM, faggot.

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>>17531354
>dude nobody actually takes those offroad

obvious troll is obvious

>>17531390

no

Get a 1920 Dodge. 0:24 through 0:40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWgW1NW45o8

>>17530999
Ahh the FJ. The official car of 60 year old Asians.

>>17531407

yeah, over 90% of people who own those don't take them offroad
my townhome complex has two of them, both of them are dads with family, none of them ever go offroad. i know them both, i know what they do

>>17524921
>west coast literal gaylord calling mid/east gay

o im laffin

>>17524777
"Japanese" trucks are made in America.

>>17531426

>townhome complex

confirmed for jealous poor white trash with blind hatred for imports

you probably smoke cigarettes too, degenerate

>>17529398
According to the VIN it was built in Japan and shipped Here.

>>17531006

cherrypicking? its just a landcruiser prado with a different bodykit.
being this reliable is the norm for toyotas.

>>17531551
Post the vin

>>17529802
georgian here, see shit ton of russian trucks/suvs
they offroad like motherfucker, are cheap and easy to fi yourself. and also run for decades
seen shit amount of old kamazs still running perfectly

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>current year
>not getting a powerful japanese isis chariot
If it's enough to move in terrorist lands it's well enough for your softcore """off-road"""

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>open thread
>dumb americans saying dumb shit

as usual

>>17529798
Hey. That's not true.
I get 9.5 mpg.
Even though your other points are fairly accurate, you forgot:
>reliable drive train.
>enough torque to pull out jap shitboxes that get stuck.

Go ahead and check the winners of the last 40+ years of Baja 500/1000....

>>17530091
>>17530111

holy fuck
literal japan destroyer

literally king of the mountain

AND priced lower than jap shit
25k will get you a hummvee with a 2010+ engine with under 10,0000 miles and under 40,000 miles on the rest of truck

you can still buy a hummer for 8k with over 60k miles and it will still be much more amazing than plastic nihon japanese shit

>>17528148
The last two vehicles I rescued out of the bush were of burger origin. The jeep had to be towed home broken.

I'll keep the hilux thanks.

>>17533715

bro???????????

humvee>ford>toyota>jeep>a bag of wet dicks>nissan>GM

but ford ultimately wins because late 90s-very early 2000's are built like tanks, beyond reliable, have plenty of parts all over the place which are damn dirt cheap, so you can really do fun things with this vehicle without breaking a 400$ tie rod end or twisting a 3500$ driveshaft

>>17533662

>GM 6.5
>TH400
>Amazing

No.

>>17534823

>has only the good GM parts, minus everything else, which is shit

seems alright with me

lol both the 6.5 and th400 are shit

fuugg fugging GM

>>17525586
They are hilux which are way more rugged and incredibly less expensive than the garbage we get here. I guess that's what you get when you build an entire empire around drive thru shopping malls

>>17535529

>3rd world reliability is better

also, what good is reliability if parts cost a metric shit ton?
toyota is a joke.
man i thought i had to order a new throttle body for my 99 expedition,
20$ + free shipping for the entire assembly on ebay
it cost the person around 10$ to ship

go look at the price for 1999 toyota shit
its a joke

>>17535423

>6.5 GM
>Good

No.

>>17536063
You wouldn't need the new throttle body in the first place, parts for non-Toyota shit are cheap because there are tons of them in scrapyards rather than on the road.

>>17536109

its only good after you do 5 different mods to it
the th400 is garbage too

>>17532787
I don't have it anymore, got rid of it.

It was a 91 with a "J" vin.

>>17536343

yeah, no
i see more 97-02 f150/expeditions on the road than similar year toyotas. and those are supposedly the best year of toyota

live in los angeles by the way
millions of cars all around me.
by far the most in the united states, probably the world

>>17536109

yeah well. still rather have the hummer over any toyota any day
the original humvee is just about the most amazing vehicle you can possibly drive

at least GM parts are available and cheap

>>17536361
I can only speak for the East coast here, but as a Tacofag, it's rare that you see 1996-2000 Tacomas show up in scrapyards that weren't totaled by a collision, whereas with Dakotas and Rangers engine/transmission failures are what bring most of them in and there's easily 3-4 times the volume of Tacos despite similar sales numbers.

>>17536415

in los angeles, those trucks are strickly driven by mexican gardeners. and mexicans are the worst car owners on this planet.
never change oil

but nobody is saying those trucks suck, asside from the rust and the frame snapping, they are pretty solid. especially out here in CA with pristine perfect auto weather.
but personally i would rather have a fullsized truck which is just as reliable if not better, and can tow large things, and can go offroad better, and has a huge market of used parts dirt cheap, and has better aftermarket for literally everything (powersource engines are transmissions are the best), and has a lot more room inside, and doesn't feel like a tincan

>>17536507
Different strokes I suppose, around here having a smaller truck is nice for trails since you don't get battered by overgrown underbrush as much and you have a fighting chance on some ATV trails, plus the largest boat I've got is never over 2000lbs even fully loaded and pretty much anything past that is a PITA to deal with launching so I don't really need the extra tow weight.

>>17536581

trailer towing
like a camper

>>17536624
Yeah, I just use a camper shell on the back with an air mattress or bring a tent, since I backpack frequently I've never really seen the point of a dedicated camper you get screwed out of stopping at nice secluded places since it's so large and when you do find somewhere the usage fee is usually as much a cheap hotel room nearby, with just the truck I can just stealth camp somewhere with a view.

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*sigh*
people just dont understand the 97-02 F-150 and Expedition

The asthetics look weak. They give a general impression of cheapness and are unattractive. But few people know these trucks on the inside.
They are built like tanks. Rock solid. It's the last real american truck.
Plenty of these trucks are still on the road, more than any other vehicle of the same years. And they never get the attention or respect they deserve.
It's the aesthetics, definitely not fords best. But this also is good, because it keeps the "hype" down. People don't want this truck, which is great.

Personally don't give a shit about aesthetics.

>>17536692

97-03*

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>>17536662
I don't like the big ass 2200lb campers, You might as well get a trailer at that point unless you really need to tow a boat or whatever. This is more of my style though it would suck to live in.

>>17536372

>GM 6.5
>TH400
>Amazing to drive

No.

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>>17524921
>Nissan shit

>Toyota shit

Cunt, have you not heard of the Nissan Patrol 4.8 and the Toyota Landcruiser 4.5?

>>17536692

wtf

isnt maintenance on these a fucking nightmare? blown sparkplugs and the ones in the back are literally inaccessible?

what about the death rattle

they're shit, or am i thinking of the wrong ford v8?

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>off roading
>don't buy Japanese

Bitch, please

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PSA regarding Toyotas:

Their D4D engines are fucking garbage, mostly because of the fuel injectors.

Seriously, do not buy any newer Toyota diesel if you want it to last. I've seen engines where the pistons have cracked due to the injectors failing after 120k miles. I've seen engines with oil pickups completely clogged with carbon deposits because the injector seat seals wear through after 60-70k miles.

This shit is not okay. Toyota reliability is a meme.

>>17537961

plugs are difficult, but not with the right tools.
you need a special plug socket, and you also need a special 10mm socket you can only get at one place. plus you need an uncommon type of wrench extension

death wobble, not rattle, is from certain year superduty trucks (f250 and above) and is caused by the way the front end is manufactured, and mounted to the frame. there is a specific term for this "angle" which i forgot, its a variable used in alignment. and it has nothing to do with the engine. the only way to solve this problem is by welding these 15$ plates or brackets somewhere on the frame

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>>17537967

>he thinks pouring money into any truck makes it special
>he thinks his little J-bitch SUV is more capable or awesome than a US military humvee

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>>17539476
>Blocks your path

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>>17539476
humvees are fucking trash, you are delusional

>>17539476
>he thinks his little J-bitch SUV is more capable or awesome than a US military humvee
it likely is
t. soldier

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>>17539476

>driving up mountain
>not just using VTOL drop ship to deliver an M577 armored personal carrier on mountain peak

but honestly,
can we please stop pretending the humvee is not the most bad ass vehicle to ever live.
really, nothing can compete
not even remotely close

>>17537967

that yellow thing is the front is the front-axle disconnect, right?
cant imagine anyone being so stupid to actually wheel that chinese little popper

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>>17529314
Nice if you've got a camp site near a road, and you're hauling them with you, but if you're camping out in bumblefuck then good luck bringing all your shit in a backpack.

>>17539476
humvees are fucking garbage. we'd be better off using LC70s like the hajis do

>>17539788
>>17539476
The humvee is actually so fucking bad that the americans get so much shit from the other vehicles in conflict outside of the US.

the only people who like them are the people who don't have to get in them. or people who do anything other than desert running the humvees.

t. oilcuck "freedom" fighter

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>>17539760
I know you're telling the truth and an actual soldier because you think that the HMMWV is shit. But be reasonable, despite the fact that they max out at 70, have trash fuel range, cost a shit ton to drive, don't use keys, have a relatively complicated light system, require a helmet to drive legally, make you look like a douche canoe if you own, and generally hold no real practical use that couldn't be better suited using different vehicles, there is ONE thing they do well. Off road driving.

>>17524777
>being this assmad from being BTFO'd on /ORG/
>this thread continues to bait bump
>drains all the replies from /org/ killing that thread
holy fucking shit, good job, OP

>>17539476
>guaranteed set of replies
also, good job. here's your well deserved sets of (You)s and (OP)s

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>>17540020
Only in the desert. They also do well against IEDs because the medium support vehicles have their complete suspension setups and are easy to repair.

There's this one time we tried to get over a large piece of fallen concrete from a demolished building and we had to back up and go around simply because of the lack of articulation and weight. The Canadian G-Wagons vastly outperformed in articulation.

It's alright in the desert but shit for everything else.

God I love threads like these. Retards and autists screeching back and forth and getting knowhere other than triggered.

>>17540042
Was yours an armored one as opposed to an unarmored Canuck truck? If that's the case no wonder you weren't going to be going up anything too easily, as was established earlier a vehicle that's too heavy isn't going to want to go up a rocky or steep slope.

>>17540071
we ran unarmored for civilians and the plates were carried by the medium support crawlers.

our entire squad loved the g-wagons and wish we could've been in those instead. they went faster than us even with heavy plates on the sides

>>17540020

>most bad ass vehicle ever to live makes you look like a "douche canoe"
>he drives a toyota instead

sure buddy

gas aint that bad for offroad tho
you're obviously not supposed to daily drive it

king of offroading

>>17524835
far superior to any of the american bullshit for sure

>>17540282
this.

stop feeding OP you fucking retards.

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>>17524947

>>17540282
Riiight. Even stock Jeep axles hold up better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHKWIJpScRw

this the /org/ thread?

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>>17540363

>>17524921
>Rear gears are more expensive to replace than an automatic is to fix
lolwut.
You can build a rear end for $300.

>>17526017

>>Those fuckers attach AA guns to the beds of your average Tundra or Tacoma and they run motherfucker.
>Attaching tops a few hundred pounds to the bed of a truck does not affect it's ability to run. This means literally nothing to the reliability.

It's cute that you think AA guns weigh "a few hundred pounds"

Try more like a literal ton.

Soviet ZU-23-2 - The double barreled AA cannon you most often see jammed in the back of a technical
Weight: 0.95 tonnes (2,094 lbs)

That's without ammo, either.

They're exceeding the rated bed capacity by at least 500 pounds or so. Plus ammo, which adds up very quickly.

>>17529442

>Tfw this guy goes out of his way to offroad when you pray for a day to avoid it.

>>17540630
no.
make your own.

>>17540740
why pray to avoid it? don't you have the trail clubs in whichever part of the world you're in? it's a pretty common sport.

>>17540779

>pretty common sport.

It is not a sport when it is daily life.

I wish I could have nice wide smooth asphalt roads and not have to rebuild suspensions on 3 year old vehicles.

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>current year
>off-roading
>not buying the most reliable truck ever

>>17540838

>USDM vehicle
>Reliable

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>he thinks the japanese can't make good trucks

kek

>>17540829
What do you do in daily life that requires offroading?

I have a Ranger for work (one contract a month requires dangerous road conditions that aren't just gravel or logging paths). It gets fun and changes around the pace.

>>17540852
>usdm
>sold internationally
>middle east

wot?

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>>17540853

>10 guys in the back
>1500 lbs

An American 1/2 ton would be on the bump stops

>>17540855

Guyana

I live in a mountainous area and I go to cell sites, all with unmaintained paths.

The main "road" isn't maintained either so I have a winch on my l200 to drag me along it and help the DAF equipment truck. Thankfully it's all jungle so there are lots of large trees to latch on to. This is everyone's road.

Our telecoms road is in much worse condition and we usually hike up to the site first with all the light equipment we can carry to assess and maintain. If we find that we need any heavy equipment or materials to go up we come back next month with a team to recut the road. Next month because it takes a few days to a week to assess one tower.

>>17540630

no, it contains useful information and is not filled with bullshit and communist japanese safe space wagons.

>>17540712

"rated" capacities are BS though

only toyotafags actually believe hauling an entire ton is like some major accomplishment

>>17540862

>Sold internationally

If the dealership buys a USDM vehicle and imports it to their country to sell to an oil baron at a ridiculous price it is not a Chilean domestic vehicle now is it?

>>17540958

It is when my ram hits the bump stops at 2,200 lbs.

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>>17540933
Ah yeah. Up in North America, we either have the larger tractor vehicles do the pulling and cut paths in the area or we have the heavy logging vehicles with treads or military tyres. They build all our stuff and we don't have jungles to cut through. All our DAFs are built in order to handle the harsher roads.

I can't imagine the jungle terrain in terms of offroading for work. I normally do low-risk (safety wise) deliveries into thin forests or farming areas. When I'm not doing that, I like to go deep innawoods camping since we can drive the entire length of your country and we'll still be in the same county, lol.

Post some of your rigs and pictures here if you have them!
>>17540799

>>17540942
>communist japanese safe space wagons
lel
triggered much

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>>17540942
>communist
>not knowing anything about socialism in japan
not that i expected you to know anything outside the general sphere of american ignorance and general mechanic failures, desu

>>17540989

>Post some of your rigs and pictures here if you have them!

I will try to remember to take pictures. I am often too busy dealing with one disaster after another. I have only been working this beat for 3 years but I started 6 years behind schedule and I feel like that I am now 12 years behind schedule. They still have the defender that I was initially given waiting on a head for the last 2 years. Have got people who have been out of cell service for over 4 months.

Despite the monopoly the company can't "afford" actual equipment so we cut the roads with man power. If you have a chainsaw in your crew then you a walking next to the boss.

>>17540361
Is this comic being intentionally ironic?

I thought the main reason a lot of people voted for Trump was because the American manufacturing industry was losing out to foreign markets?

>>17540071
>armored

literally irrelevant

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>>17541454

no, they voted trump to spite sjw's

play stupid games, get stupid prizes simple as that

>>17536692

yeah, the aesthetics convey a streamlined, weak truck.
but underneath is very heavy and beefy. the truck is built extremely well.

the aesthetics really do make a huge difference,
it effects everyone, even people who think they know better.

>>17541577
Well, I still don't see the point of that political comic, because it seems to me that american manufacturing really is getting fucked over by regulations that prevent it from competing with foreign industries.

>>17541868
That's true for some parts, but for light trucks there's a 25% import tariff and insane crash safety and emissions requirements that's kept the domestic makers from having to consider reintroducing cheap trucks which really sucks ass, back around 2010 the Indian car maker Mahindra was looking at importing their Imperio which is similar in size to a Taco or Ranger but has a diesel option and would run around 11,000 new with a 4wd version starting at around 16,000 but they decided against it since the testing and import tariffs made it too expensive to be competitive in the US.

>>17524921
>WA
>Subarus won't work here
NW Washington Offroad and SJR would like a word with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0USfT3bH2Y

>>17527752
>wanting the better vehicle makes you a child

>>17524921
Your opinion became invalid with your list of "good states"

>>17543106
no

>>17529147
man you really fucked up putting that dumb sticker on

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>>17528188
>Trusting men in dresses to drive well