How do you respond to people who ask you to fill up their gas

What

Do you by chance have schizophrenia?

>>17458865
I've had this issue. If you have the ability to help tell them to pull their car up and you'll fill it up. Under no circumstance should you give cash. This scares 98% of them off.

Op pay my internet bill so I can keep replying to you? Thank you

>>17458961
>>17458978
Sometimes people come up to you when you're filling your car and ask for money. More likely to happen when you're in certain areas, and also when you're driving a car that looks nicer/more expensive.

>>17458865
Had never happened to me before until recently. Told the guy I needed my cash for tolls (was actually true) because it caught me off guard.

>>17458865
>"Maaaan, I just lost my job at the bbq pizza bun refinery plant and was about to try to hit you dudes up for some gas"

>>17458992
>letting people know you have cash
There's your problem, retard.

>>17459003
heres what you need to do to everybody except charities
>I don't have money
>No I dont have a cell phone
>No
>no
>no
>no

>>17459017
*everybody including charities

>>17458865
Mostly you just tell them to Fuck Off. If you wanna be a beta about it you tell them to bring their car up and you'll fill it up for them. Usually they'll give some song and dance about how it's somewhere else though.

I drive a 97 chevy k1500 pickup with straight pipes. So I just say, "all my money goes to this gas guzzler, sorry man." Then I peel out and leave. If they ask for a phone I just say. :Mines dead and this old truck doesn't have a charger. Sorry man"
>it has two ports, a cigarette lighter and my new stereo has a usb port, bu they don't need to know that.

>>17459003
It's not like you announce you have cash first, and then people come up and ask for it. The problem is the area and/or your car.

>>17458865
Who still carries cash?

I tell them I don't have any cash.

Tell them fuck off. It's a yes or no question, and you're not obligated.

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Lol America has become a nation of beggars and thieves.

I've heard a startling number of people on this board complain about others coming up to them at gas stations and begging for gas money. It's fucked.

You have the second amendment - use it. Kill anyone who asks you for anything at all, the law is on your side.

>>17459130
Fucking oath mate. Aussie here, i wish we could open carry like you americans.

I also had this problem while driving in the NT, some abos came up to me asking for goon money.

I got right up in their face and told those dirty coons i would give them a fucking taste if they did not piss off, 2 fucked off but the third got uppity.

I planted my rock solid fist into his jaw and cracked it like thunder, slamming his filthy communist ass down to the ground.

So sick of people wanting a handout.

>>17459130
the law is not on your side. Tell them to fuck off, and if they assault you, THEN you can draw

>>17459130
>>17459138
It's what makes America great.

>Begging for gas
>Guilt tripping for gas

They can take the bus. Their problem extends deeper than an empty gas tank if they're expecting you to fill.

If you feel threatened, you might consider not stopping at ghetto gas stations. Particularly the ones with wrought iron bars on the windows.

>>17459144
They're Aussies so the answer is yes, they're retarded.

>>17459164
Isn't just gas stations, shopping center parking lots get this a lot too. The one constant ime is that it's niggers though. I also think they do it just to see if they can make whitey feel guilty.

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>>17459144

You shouldn't have to suffer the indignity of having someone beg for money from you. The founding fathers foresaw these sorts of problems, and ensured all citizens would be equipped with the means to protect their own quality of life.

What kinda shit holes you fucks live in where this happens? Asking for a friend.

I live in canada and this has literally never once happened to me.

If it did happen, I keep extra bus tickets in my wallet because its easier/cheaper than parking downtown is. I would offer them one of those. Fuck giving a stranger money for "gas," I need that money to get drunk or high just like they do.

>>17459217
you still use tickets? we have tokens in toronto because somehow we have the best transit system in north america

>>17458865
>driving a fancy vehicle

nigga I drive a fiesta, nobody asks me for shit

get yourself a shitbox

>>17459194
Cunt, you're askin for a bruisin
I'll snap ya fingers inside me bumhole

>>17459229
>Implying it's that tight anymore
>2017

pick one

>>17458865
> sorry, I can't

Then if they say anything else I just pretend like they aren't there until they leave

>>17458865
"Don't talk to me again"

Assertiveness is a lost art, apparently.

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>>17459138
I love you aussies.

>>17459276

"Don't ever talk to me or my wife's son again"

>>17459227
I drive a Miata and people still do this to me

>>17459130
>Lol America has become a nation of beggars and thieves.

I had this belief, too, when I was a teenager to upper-middle-class parents. Then I got type-1 diabetes (the rare kind that you just get for no reason, where you go into a coma and die after 5-10 days of no insulin shots) and found that life sucks for some people. Early on in my insulin treatment I got low blood sugar at work one day and got fired from my cushy $20/hr office job as a "safety hazard." Because of the way they fired me I cannot get unemployment and still haven't been approved for disability two years later, even w/ a specialist lawyer. It currently costs around $800/month on an obamacare plan just to get insulin and if obamacare were repealed it would cost 2-4k per month (or more, if things go wrong).

So, Trumpists expect that an 18 y.o. with no or poor parents (not me thankfully) to suddenly manage paying $30+k every year just for medical costs (and that assumes no hospitalizations or complications) for a disease they had no control over getting, which they could be fired for at any time? Mind you, the average per-adult income in the US is $30.2k..

Just imagine being a black person brought up in an impoverished neighborhood in a shitty school where the culture is to make fun of you if you try hard.

>>17459330
I came here to rage. Not to feel.

>>17459314
You're dead kid

>>17458865
I got one woman come up to me asking me for money. I drive a riced out civic si with bad paint so I was weird choice. I could tell she was full of shit, they're always full of shit. She asked me for gas money to get her kids across the bridge to see their father but she didn't mention the $5 toll to get across it.

I just say nah it's diesel sorry

>guy pulls up to me in his suv while I walk Intj gas station
>hey, hey! I'm trying to get home to Ohio, man, and I'm running low on gas!
We're in Maryland and he has Maryland plates
>I don't carry cash, man
>guy sucks his teeth and drives away, burning the gas he needs to get to "Ohio"

He was white looking, though. What compels people to become trash

>>17459330
You didn't get fired for nothing, if you did, you'd have a lawsuit. Don't bullshit me, wrongful termination is a real thing I've been through and if I could win with my bullshit case then you can win for being fired over your illness - unless you're lying and got fired for a good reason

>>17458865
never carry cash.

>>17459330
Muh socialism

>>17459130
>Lol America has become a nation of beggars and thieves.
It's going to get worse as the gobment expands its fake services.
>but, but Obamacare!
>$10,000 deductible
Fake insurance

>>17459847
>You didn't get fired for nothing, if you did, you'd have a lawsuit.

I filed a lawsuit with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. I did some research and found that cases taken to trial have an ~8% win rate, cost a lot up front, and take many years to finish. I went to mediation (the defending team brought six lawyers) and got 2 weeks worth of salary; the former EEOC lawyer I spoke with was surprised I got that.

Even though I worked in a cubicle farm they could legally fire me as a safety hazard because it was a full-vehicle assembly plant and my diabetes was not "perfectly controlled" (no one's is).

>>17458865
Um, don't drive a BMW?

>>17459326

They don't really want gas money, it's just a conversation starter. They're hoping it'll lead to you blowing them in the gas station bathroom.

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>>17461302

That's discriminatory - don't you Americans have some kind of labour laws or human rights code?

Christ, in Canada if you fired someone for having diabetes your whole fucking COMPANY would suffer forfeiture to the government.

Seriously, the company would be forced to find you accommodation in some other way within the company, maybe move you to a back office type job or somewhere you can't physically get hurt.

I worked with a guy at a hardware store, he was a store manager at Home Depot and got fired. Sued HOME DEPOT, and after 13 months, he won. Got 3 years salary ($81,000/year), + some legal costs. All in all he didn't get rich, but he did waste a lot of money and force the company to reform their niggerish practices.

>>17461437
>don't you Americans have some kind of labour laws or human rights code?
We do, but companies have become so powerful here that they hardly even matter. They have the best lawyers around, and nobody can even afford half a decent lawyer to defend themselves. They draw these things out long enough that it exhausts and destroys the defendant until they have nothing left to defend themselves with and they just give up. Our own fucking president does this kind of shit. Basically if you have money, you can get away with anything here.

I just say no. No reasons or apologies. If they get pushy I get rude. Why does everyone I see try to make some excuse or apologize when they are asked?

>>17461302
you were let go because you weren't needed. Companies aren't around to just give your ass a job, they're here to provide a good and/or service in exchange for a profit for the shareholders and investors of said business. Your ass being fired saved them some money.
You're so fucking useless that you're not even able to make yourself worth a measly $41,000 a year.

Welcome to America chump, either get to work or get to dying.

>>17461437
Just like American vs. Canadian healthcare, the US labour laws are skewed hugely in favour of corporations instead of individuals.

>>17461437
I typed a whole thing about shell companies, conglomerates, money, and the legal system. I went to delete a typo and pressing backspace took me back a page and I was typing in a pop-up reply.

Let's just say that the legal system in the US is not definitive unless you are poor and a defendant, then the law is followed exactly. Money and obfuscation trumps all in the US legal system.

And yes, the EEOC who I filed with is a federal agency that enforces the Americans with Disabilities Act. They did an investigation and found that discrimination did happen but it's apparently not that simple, especially if you're young and fresh out of college (read: broke) and the company involved is the highest-grossing company in the county.

>>17461510
Spot the pimple-faced /pol/tard virgin everyone

>>17461510
If I wasn't needed then why did my boss and the department manager separately write letters to plant management asking to reinstate me?

I was making a MATLAB program, with a GUI, that would take in transmission run data from vehicles leaving the plant and correlate them with the likelihood of in-warranty transmission failure. I am well aware MATLAB was not the right tool for the task, but it's what they wanted.

It was easy as fuck, IMO, but no one else at the plant knew how to write applications.

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>>17461489

Sounds like you need to take the law into your own hands.

>>17458865
>driving a X3
protip they'll suck your dick if you offer them cash
easy win win

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I tell them to fuck off usually.

>>17461522
>m-muh pole boogeyman

>>17462137
back to /pol/, drumpfkin

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>>17462148
I'm from /k/ though.

>>17462168
go back and stay there

>>17459326
I drive a Miata and I've never heard of this happening

>>17461420
Lel

I live in Oregon so I dont know this feel

>>17462168
Just as bad neckbeard, kys.

>>17458980
This. or say a quarter tank or something.

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>>17459330
"GIVE ME FREE MONEY BECAUSE I HAVE A DISEASE" - Shut the fuck up. Why don't your 'upper middle class' parents help you out? Stop being an insufferable little bitch and grow a fucking pair.

>>17458865
I've had this happen many times in the skeevy areas of the country, like the city I grew up in. I don't even drive a "nice" car, it's a car normies would completely overlook as some poorfag in an old car and only a niche enthusiast would think I have money for owning it.

Just say no dipshit. It's not hard.

>>17459330
>Early on in my insulin treatment I got low blood sugar at work one day and got fired from my cushy $20/hr office job as a "safety hazard."
YOU didn't keep YOUR medical condition in check and YOU became a safety hazard.
Who's fault is that? Why should an employer keep such an irresponsible person like you employed?

>Because of the way they fired me I cannot get unemployment
Why should you get paid to do nothing because you were irresponsible at your previous job?

>still haven't been approved for disability two years later
Why should you get paid to do nothing just because you have a completely controllable and manageable illness that doesn't prevent you from working?

> It currently costs around $800/month on an obamacare plan just to get insulin and if obamacare were repealed it would cost 2-4k per month (or more, if things go wrong).
Why should you not have to pay market price for medication just like everyone else? Why should anyone else have to pay for it for you?

>Trumpists expect that an 18 y.o. with no or poor parents (not me thankfully) to suddenly manage paying $30+k every year just for medical costs
Fuck Trump.
Why shouldn't someone be expected to pay for their own illness? Why is it anyone else's responsibility to fix YOUR problems?

>for a disease they had no control over getting
The american tax payer had no control over someone getting diabetes either. Why should they be on the hook for it?

>which they could be fired for at any time?
A private business can choose not to employ someone they deem to be a safety hazard or not beneficial to their organization!?! Oh the horror! How dare they choose what to do with their money and their business as the please.

>Just imagine being a black person brought up in an impoverished neighborhood in a shitty school where the culture is to make fun of you if you try hard.
How does being black or being impoverished make any of this the burden of american tax payers? Why is it anyone else's problem?

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>>17462766
I've had a job since the week I turned 16. I worked a bridgeport mill in a factory through a lot of college. I have a science/engineering bachelors and 2 years worth of engineering internships. I was able to live on my own just fine - until I got diabetes.

I'm complaining that the medical industry is holding my life hostage and insurance companies want nothing to do with me just because my immune system decided to attack my pancreas one day. And it's all because of free-market dipshits who've been hooked-up with jobs their whole lives that think they somehow "earned" it.

Pic related - I go through 3 vials of Novolog and 1.5 of Lantus every month. Then consider the $5-10 of test strips daily, and the syringes which many pharmacists refuse to give me even though I'm picking up insulin, and the constant doctor visits to make sure I don't need a foot lobbed-off... shit sucks.

It is only expensive in the US because companies know they can do it - it's many times cheaper (even w/o insurance) in every other country.

I suggest that you grow some fucking balls, anon. I doubt you worked in a factory at 17.

>>17462865
why dont you just kys. much cheaper that way and you wont be a burden to your family or taxpayers.

>>17462865
Anon above has a point. The sooner genetic failures like yourself take themselves out of the gene pool the sooner we wont have to deal with illnesses like diabetes.

>amerimongrels are actually subhuman enough to deny people basic human rights such as healthcare

Lmao, fucking 3rd worlders.

>>17462840
These are easy things to say when you don't have it, bro. I take ~50-80 units of insulin each day, and it varies depending on whether my pancreas is rebuilding itself temporarily, my carb intake, my heart rate, my level of stress, the weather outside, and other factors - but I have to guess all of that ahead of time when I take my insulin. If I guess incorrectly by just 2 units I could easily pass out unconscious.

I didn't even pass out at work - I told my boss I was going to the break room to treat a low and a security guy thought that I was 'acting odd' by chugging a regular coke in the break room. That's all it took for me to be a "safety hazard."

I hope you get leukemia and can't afford treatment.

>>17462887
>basic human rights
>healthcare

Show me where being provided a service by and goods from other people for free is a "human right".

>>17462887
Basic human rights don't rely on forcing someone to do something.

>>17462895
>>17462902
>yankee mongoloids have been brainwashed into being materialistic corporate slaves to THIS extent

Lmao

>>17462895
Did you see the graphs I posted about the cost of insulin in the US? Insulin is old as fuck and the people who discovered it sold the patent to a university for $1 with stipulation that it would be free to users. It's only expensive so execs who've never learned calculus can give their families $2-mil mcmansions.

>>17462902
>>17462895
Don't reply.

>>17462892
>These are easy things to say when you don't have it
You presume I also don't have a debilitating illness.
I do. I require biweekly infusions of Remicade ($7600 per dose plus $12 per infusion at an infusion center. Look it up or anyother biologic) for Crohn's disease. I also take a borderline toxic dose of mercaptopurine daily (which puts me at high risk of lethal hepatosplenic t-cell lymphoma) and have to sit on high doses of prednisone for 12-18 months at a time putting me at extremely high risk for diabetes and osteoporosis.

I also have to severely measure and restrict my diet.

Even with all of that I have to run to the bathroom every 15-30 minutes. More if I'm having a flare up.

I also have severe anemia due to blood loss which puts me at risk of loss of consciousness, and RLS which prevents me from sleeping.

And I still don't think my medical issues are anyone else's problem, nor do I expect anyone else to pay for them. I make my own way financially despite my medical issues and I don't bitch and blame everyone else for my problems.

>I hope you get leukemia and can't afford treatment.
No wonder you bitch like a child and expect others to take care of your problems. You are an immature child.

>>17462927
Tripfag BTFO

>>17462910
you didn't answer the question.

>>17462927
>$12 per infusion
should say $1200 per infusion.

>>17462927

Do you pay for all of this?

>>17462949
I was diagnosed at 24 while in school. I'm 31 now.

In school I paid for cheap insurance with a part time job which covered part of the cost and got financial assistance from Johnson and Johnson to lower the out of pocket expense.

After school I've gotten better and better jobs (engineering) which provided better and better insurance options and covered incrementally larger monthly out of pocket costs.

My latest job has me part of the International Botherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW) which enables me access to high quality 100% paid for medical coverage, life insurance, dental, vision, etc.

>>17462930
>>17462917
>these amerisavages are actually serious

Lmao, dumb yankee scum

>>17462984
You still haven't answered the question. I suspect this is because you don't have the means or intelligence to do so.

I'll reiterate:

Show me where being provided a service by and goods from other people for free is a "human right".

>>17462978
Fun fact: before Obabocare insurers could (and would) drop your ass within 2 months of starting this treatment. Thanks, "socialism."

>>17462991
>Dumb american animal is still missing the point

LOL

>>17462994
Also, you don't require that treatment to live.

>>17462978
>31 and on 4chan

I was in Reno a few years ago filling up my rented U-Haul cargo van at a gas station when some kids approached me asking for gas money. I had been awake for about three days at that point and was particularly hungover so my senses were a little bit faded to say the least. When they asked me, a combination of my state of mind and autism resulted in me shouting at them NAW MAN I AINT GOT SHIT ALRIGHT to which they responded "whoah ok bdudy thanks". I think what scared them was I started saying my response before they even finished asking

>>17462994
I had insurance before Obamacare and this did not happen.

>>17463003
Untreated severe Crohn's disease is a wasting illness and does cause death due to malnutrition and blood loss. That's if you don't kill yourself on the toilet first.

>>17463001
I'm not missing the point. You claimed something was a "human right" I am asking that you validate this because it surely is not. All you have in response is some tired low intelligence memeing.

>>17463009
and?

>>17463022
>and?
Sad

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>>17463024
cool.

>>17462840
You're also forgetting that medication prices in burgerland are inflated by 1000's of percents to line CEOs' pockets because they can get away with it. See martin shkreli. You can get a 100ml vial of insulin in Mexico for $20, here it's $138.

>sorry man I can't help
>butbutbutb sir
>I can't help
>whatever cracker ass white boy broke bitch ass

all it takes. I don't give to the homeless anymore

>>17463039
>You're also forgetting that medication prices in burgerland are inflated by 1000's of percents to line CEOs' pockets because they can get away with it.
Do you know what the free market is?

>You can get a 100ml vial of insulin in Mexico for $20, here it's $138.
Nothing is stopping you from moving to Mexico to get cheap insulin.
Do you know what the free market is?

>>17458992
>Sometimes people come up to you when you're filling your car and ask for money

Does this really happen in America?

>>17463047
>muh free market
I know it's free. That doesn't make it right for the ceos to bankrupt people for a medicine (just to maximize profits) that they don't have a choice in buying, especially when that brand is the only brand. The cost of the insulin that Panda5 needs is the majority of what I make in one month at $11.21/hr, well above minimum wage. There definitely wouldn't be enough left to cover rent and food. That's what antitrust laws are for, but the government is so fucking slow to do anything it hasn't caught up to that yet, and the ceos are allowed to lobby our politicians to not do anything about it.

If the price of this shit wasn't so inflated, it wouldn't cost things like Medicaid so much, which by the way is tax funded. Your taxes are lining these CEOs pockets even without buying any of their medicine.

It's a scam you retard.

>>17458980
>be at a gas station eating a granola bar waiting for my friends to finish whatever the fuck they're doing
>some drugged up bitch comes up begging for money because she's beyond hungry
>offer her the rest of my granola bar
>she looks at me like "I don't want that shit"
>friend offers to buy her some food
>she declines that too, but keeps begging for money
I fucking hate beggars and druggies

.>be me
>see a nigger asking people at gas station for money
>see him taking it and filling up a huge tank in his trunk
>have my gasoline can in the back of my truck
>fill it up with diesel
>go up to nigger, tell him "I have this left over"
>dumb ass fills it up

I really hope I fucked his or whoever's engine he was selling the gas to.

>>17459155
yes but I don't want their diseases so I don't want them touching me

>>17459847
What shit state do you live in where the company needs a reason to fire you? Where I live the company has full rights to decide if they want to fire someone or not. It's their money and they get to decide how to spend it.

>>17463093
>Does this really happen in America?
yes. niggers accost any white person they see. it's fucking ridiculous here. I even drive beat up shitbox but white=gimmie cash honkey!

violent little fucks too but luckily I carry a gun since I live in tx.

>>17463096
>That doesn't make it right for the ceos
Who are you to dictate what a private individual does with the private company in his charge to maximize profits, the entire point behind a corporation.

Just because you don't like it or think its "fair" doesn't mean shit. Life isn't fair you child.

>to bankrupt people for a medicine
Nothing is stopping these people from moving to a socialist shithole or some mudhole like Mexico if they can't afford medicine in the U.S. Do you know what a free market is?

>they don't have a choice in buying
They absolutely have a choice. They have a choice to make more money,or borrow money, por go somewhere the medicine is cheaper.

>The cost of the insulin that Panda5 needs is the majority of what I make in one month at $11.21/hr, well above minimum wage.
Sounds like the problem isn't that the medicine is too costly, but more that you don't make enough money. Are you also going to complain that you can't afford a new BMW on your $11/hour wages so BMW should sell them for cheaper and cut into their bottom line? That's exactly what you are saying. Sorry, businesses don't work like that.

>>17463176
>they have a choice to make more money
Boomer detected. Jobs don't work like that.

I say go get a cup and I'll fill it with gasoline. Haven't had any takers

>>17458961
I've never had this happen, if someone ever actually dared to ask me that I'd probably fucking kill them right there on the spot.

>>17463186
>Boomer detected. Jobs don't work like that.
I've already stated my age.

Yes they really do. If you make shit money get a better job. If you are not employable at a better job make yourself more employable at a better job.

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>This entire thread

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>>17463193

>>17458865
I fuck with them. I'll tell them, "Oh I don't have any monry, but do you guys have a minute to talk about Scientology" and as they walk away I usually say shut like "Don't play me at my own game"


Story that kind of relates to this
I live in So Cal, maybe 3 hour drive from Mexico Border
>At gas station at 2 am
>Stinky Beaner (Confirmed border hopper)with Ensenada Plates parks to fill up and asks me how to get to Perris Lake from where we're at
>Tell him to keep taking the 91 east and he'll be able to see the signs for Perris
>Keeps saying, I've been driving 91 East, I don't see it
>For 10 minutes I keep trying to explain to him that he needs to keep going because it's about an hour away
>Asks me if I can drive to Perris and have him follow me
>Tell him no because I'm heading home (Plus I'm not driving to fucking Perris Lake, 2 hour round trip, Especially not after he insulted Papa Trump)
>He keeps having me explain where it is
>FuckingWetbacks.gif
>Tell him in Spanish (if you live in So Cal you have to know a little Spanish to make life easier), "Keep driving on the 91 East and you will see the signs for Perris Lake"
>Asks me again to have him follow me there
>Told him, I'm sorry, I'm not driving to Perris Lake
>Gets mad at me and leaves
>Dumbass ended up going 91 West, I think he ended up going to Fullerton
>GodBlessMurica

>>17463202
Not one Europeon has given a convincing argument for why i should have to pay for everyone else's medical problems.

>>17462865
move to canada eh
if you're college educated you wont have an issue

>>17463176
Also car manufacturers aren't making 900%+ profit on cars, they're making barely anything. Medicine manufacturers are making their profits off of sick people, cars are a luxury. Medicine isn't. Nobody needs a car to live, and car brands also have to price competitively because of how many different brands there are. If BMW asked double what a 3 series is worth, they wouldn't get it because the customer could just go to Mercedes or Audi instead. Medicine is a requirement to live for some people, and because it's a private industry they hold patents on the drugs for years that prevent others from making it too, creating a monopoly so they can price as high as they want and people will still have to pay it just to live at all, because nobody else is legally allowed to sell it in the US. I'm not saying they shouldn't make any profit. It is a business and they do need money for R&D, overhead, etc. But there's a line between making enough to grow your business, and cheating people out of their money just because you can. They've clearly crossed it a long time ago and while they are allowed to, that doesn't make it right.

>>17463211
Why should you have to pay for roads you don't use? Why should you have to pay for city infrastructure that doesn't affect you? Oh right, because that's how living in a civilized nation works.

My point is that if the scumbag CEOs weren't profiteering hugely off of people who need their product to live at all it wouldn't be nearly as much of a burden on taxpayers. It's literally on your side, you'd be paying less in taxes or paying the same and seeing returns elsewhere that might be more relevant to you.

>>17459330
Natural selection

Please don't reproduce

>>17463270
>republican
I'm libertarian, shithead.

>>17462887
omg lol, imagine being an American.

>literally denied healthcare
LMFAO. Americans on par with shitholes like Africa. rotflmao

>>17463211
Because doctors want to charge thousands for shit worth hundreds and hundreds for shit worth tens (like sitting in their chair)

Little competition (one or two hospitals a city, drug monopolies) + ubiquitous insurance = you can charge more and drive a porsche

Surely the solution is more insurance.

Increase competition
Reduce insurance
Reduce medical school tuition and doctor debt

>>17463281
>>literally denied healthcare
This would only be a problem for you if you were worthless and lazy.

I have fantastic heathcare payed for 100% by my employer because I worked hard in an industry that pays well and has good benefits.

I can see why a bunch of lazy euromongs would think the U.S. is a bad place. Because they couldn't come over here and be lazy on someone else's dime as easily.

Sorry kiddo, I live in a nice low crime area in a nice house with a nice car and work at a nice job with taxes hilariously lower than ausfailia or some other socialist shithole in Europe.

>>17463294
>muh middle class privilege
good for you. meanwhile billy bob has a golf ball tumor on his neck because moonshining wont pay his hospital bills

>>17463300
I have a major illness and I'm not bitching because I worked hard and have a solid job with awesome healthcare.

You want to be lazy and want a system there to support your laziness. America does not provide that so you are free to fuck off to another country where they allow lazy vagrants to live off the system.

What people don't seem to understand is the medicine would not exist in the first place if it wasn't a profitable venture.

>but they make TOO much, they should only make a little bit

If there was some kind of profit cap the risk wouldn't have been taken in the first place to hire all those people and spend years developing something that may not even work. Possibility of good profit is why most cutting edge drugs and procedures are being developed in the US or in other for profit markets. Fortunately the patent expires after 20 years, if you are on a tight budget you can still have the best stuff from 1997. If you want the latest and greatest you'll have to spend more.

>>17463132
Gave a scrounger some money once since he straight up said he wanted to buy a bottle of wine. I was drunk and appreciated the honesty.

>best thread on /o/ isn't even related to cars
Sasuga.

>>17463307
>>muh middle class
I don't come from middle class. I was born in the back woods of Florida to poverty level parents. I dropped out of highschool at 17 due to family issues and started out with nothing on my own. I worked hard to get where I am, even with my medical issues. There is literally no reason someone else couldn't do the same

>privilege
go back to tumblr. The rest of the purple haired dykes there are probably a more appropriate audience for you.

>meanwhile billy bob has a golf ball tumor on his neck because moonshining wont pay his hospital bills
Well billy bob should have made better life decisions so he would be in a better place to take care of himself should he run into any medical issues.

I don't see how billy bob's poor decision making, lack of planning, and poor health is my problem.

>>17463309
>work 60 hours a week for $6/hr plus whatever I can get from tips
>have to feed three kids, pay rent and bills
>literally cannot afford healthcare, and if could, wouldnt matter because kike insurance company will just deny claims for any serious illness
muh freedumbs to slave away and get nothing, gob bless capitalism

>>17462865
>3 vials of Novolog and 1.5 of Lantus every month
Holy fuck how?? I go through one bottle of each type once a month and my A1C hasn't been over 7 in years. How the fuck do you use so much goddamn insulin???

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>>17462885

>>17463331
>>work 60 hours a week for $6/hr plus whatever I can get from tips
Whos fault is it that you have a shitty job?

>have to feed three kids
Who's fault is it that you had three kids that you couldn't afford?

>pay rent and bills
If you cant afford to pay your bills it sounds like you are spending too much and living beyond your means, have a shit job, or both.
Who's fault is that?

>>literally cannot afford healthcare
Sounds like you need to find a better job, put your kids up for adoption because you are not responsible enough to take care of them and focus on paying for your medical bills.

>muh freedumbs to slave away and get nothing, gob bless capitalism
You are blaming capitalism for your irresponsibility fo lack of good decision making skills?

lol, take some fucking responsibility.

>>17463330
>There is literally no reason someone else couldn't do the same
Yeah thats why 14.5% of the population lives in poverty
>inb4 muh blacks and mexican, they make up 50%, and most of that is single woman households

many other nations offer free healthcare AND have a significantly higher human development index than the kikenited states
stay poor and unhealthy

>>17463332
>>still doesn't understand it isn't a matter of laziness
>reading comprehension is hard.
Yes it absolutely is. You're just too stupid to understand why.

>>17463350
>lol, take some fucking responsibility
Yeah if only it were that simple

Get outside your mothers basement some time kid

>>17463323
The problem with that is that there can be only one drug that cures someone's problem for 20 years until a generic can be released. It becomes either pay out the ass for your life saving drug for 20 years or die.

>>17463350
Where are these magical better jobs that seem to grow on trees where you live? Please, direct me to them. "Just getting a better job" isn't that simple, even with a relevant college degree. (i.e. not fucking art or women's studies.)

>>17463351
>Yeah thats why 14.5% of the population lives in poverty
I never said there weren't lazy or stupid people out there anon.

People do not work hard for themselves and they end up in poverty expecting everyone else to make up for their failings.

>many other nations offer free healthcare AND have a significantly higher human development index
because they tax the ones who do work hard and do well for themselves to make up for the lazy fucks and their inability o improve their own lives. I'm glad the wellfare state status quo appeals to you. but as someone who works hard and does well for himself, it doesn't appeal to me.

>stay poor and unhealthy
Actually, as I've said, I have fantastic healthcare coverage and a very good job due to my hard work. Thanks for caring though.

>>17463359
it is that simple. you seriously want to blame other people because you have a shit job and you were stupid enough to have kids you couldn't afford?

You seriously think that's anyone else's fault but your own?

You made stupid life decisions and you want everyone else to pay for them. You don't want to take responsibility and live the life that you have choose to live through you piss poor decision making an judgement.

Learn to take fucking responsibility for yourself.

>>17463363
I have explained why it is a matter of laziness. You are too stupid to comprehend.

Sounds like you are the one who is illiterate.

>>17463366
>Where are these magical better jobs that seem to grow on trees where you live?

Opportunities are everywhere. Go look for them.

Just in my industry alone companies hire people off the street for $15/hour jobs in utilities surveying. After a year as a surveyor you can get into office QC, field QA, etc. and be making $18/hour.

The larger companies start people off at $18/hour for bsic field work.

After a few years of experience you can move to planning, technical planning, fiber engineering, etc. and make ~$26-35 an hour at a utility contractor.

After a few years there you can move to a major utility as a planner/estimator and make $38+ an hour.

Hell you can get into lineman school for a field surveying job and they will pay for your schooling at a lot of contractors. From there groundmen make $70k/year+. and a journeyman lineman can make $90k+ plus unlimited overtime.

There are tons of guys making $150k a year with a highscool diploma and some hard work in the utilities industry.

If you're working some shit job at a restaurant or grocery store and blaming the world that you're not making enough money. you have no one to blame but yourself.

>>17463384
no u

>>17463421
the only people who think that are poorfags who wouldn't be paying for this so called """""free""""" healthcare

>>17463377
>its because they are stupid and lazy and no other reason because i have zero life experience and am an idiot
happy family, husband has working class job but still lives well enough, has life insurance etc,
suddenly one day husband dies, kike insurance company refuses to pay for bullshit reason, widow is in mourning, has to dig into life savings/retirement for the funeral and survival in the mean time, widow could easily win a payout if goes to court but cannot because kike lawyer costs
widow is stuck working 60 hours as a cleaning lady to feed, clothe, house and educate her three kids, cant afford shit else

or,
old sick person, lost all their retirement money in the recession, cannot afford the kike pharmaceutical company's $1000 a month bills, dies of pneumonia


>huur just get a job old man, fuck your dementia and whatever else
>huur just work harder widow, you married your husband out of high school thus have no quantifiable work experience, just get a better job
kys kiddo

>>17463426
yeah, because people with good jobs in *actually developed countries* totally think "damn i hate paying for universal healthcare"

american healthcare system is a joke and you are just deep in denial
deal with it

>>17463431
>making speculative appeals to emotion thinking it changes the argument.

bleeding heart liberals are worthless and need to kill themselves.

>>17463442
>damage control
thanks for playing, better luck next time
hopefully now you understand that everything isnt as cut and dry as you think it is. get out of your basement some time

>>17463435
>yeah, because people with good jobs in *actually developed countries* totally think "damn i hate paying for universal healthcare"
until they get their paycheck and realize they only see 60% of the money they earned.

>american healthcare system is a joke and you are just deep in denial
Didn't seem like it was a joke last time I was there when I went into a brand new state of the art building, paid nothing to see my doctor with no wait, had my labs done with no wait, got my infusion with no wait, and was out in about 45 minutes. 35 of which was me sitting in a chair getting my infusion and watching TV.

>>17463453
resorting to illogical appeals to emotion to try to get your point across means you've got a shit point.

>>17458865
>needing to make an excuse instead of saying no
You know how I know you have autism?

>>17463468
republicans are retards.

My point still stands.

>>17463457
>until they get their paycheck and realize they only see 60% of the money they earned.
I keep more than 60% of my paycheque, and I dont ever have to worry about going into debt for treatment of some chronic illness, or worry about making sure that I have the healthcare to cover such a thing, or pay for medicine

you do realize that insurance companies rarely pay for everything, and even less often pay for it forever?

>Didn't seem like it was a joke last time I was there when I went into a brand new state of the art building, paid nothing blah blah blah
Big whoop, poorfag junkies get the same treatment in the actual 1st world, roflmao!

>>17463465
>illogical
sorry not sorry but those are real life situations
get out of your basement some time, kiddo

>>17463489
>Big whoop, poorfag junkies get the same treatment
I know. And I'm glad my wages aren't confiscated by the state to support those junkies like yours are.

>in the actual 1st world
The U.S. is 1st world by definition. Seems euro schooling has failed you.

>sorry not sorry but those are real life situations
doesn't change the fact that appeals to emotion are illogical points in a logical argument. Framing your argument about emotional appeals means you have a shit point.

>>17458865

I keep my timesheets and show it to them then say "I don't work 70 hours a week to throw it away"

>>17463502
>And I'm glad my wages aren't confiscated by the state to support those junkies like yours are
nah, they are just confiscated to give to mexican cartels and islamic extremists

>The U.S. is 1st world by definition
sure, they are an allied nation... but a tru 1st world nation doesnt make their citizens pay $600 for epipens

>appeals to emotion are illogical points in a logical argument
its not an 'appeal to emotion', its reality. stay mad that your world experiences are severely limited by spending all day on 4chan in your basement

>huur everyone just needs to work harder
top lmao, polkids are so funny

>>17463157
At will employment, yes, but if you have that then you're working fast food, call center, or grocery store. Big companies negotiate salaries and contracts

>>17463534
>a tru 1st world nation doesnt make their citizens pay $600 for epipens
cool definition that you completely just made up and is nowhere close to reality.

>/pol/
nice try. I've never gone on that shit board.
cool attempt to disregard a position you don't agree with by attempting to group with a bunch of other pople you don't agree with.

You really don't have an argument beyond appeals to emotion, saying I'm from /pol/, and not understanding what a 1st world country is?

>>17463157
>>17463584
>haha just get a fucking job you stupid retards, you're not ENTITLED to [x]
>haha you got fired sucks to be you, you're not ENTITLED to job security
wow that really does rev my engines

>>17463534
Eat a nice big slice of cake and never wake up.

>>17463590
>and is nowhere close to reality
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-epipen-costs-idUSKBN16Y24O
lmao

>You really don't have an argument beyond appeals to emotion
and what is your argument? logical?
>huur im fit, healthy and smart, i worked hard to have a job that pays health insurance for me, if everyone else cant achieve the way i have then they are lazy scum that deserve nothing
its clear you have the mentality of a kid, just kys

>>17463595
>monkey doesn't realize he's not entitle to a job and isn't entitle to keep that job

Don't be a shit worker Tyrone. When you're a valuable employee it's not a matter of you keeping a job, it's a matter of the job keeping you. You will be offered more money not to leave and other companies will actively seek you out and offer you money and perks to come work for them.

Of course that's never going to happen if the best you can do is working for fucking Walmart or Mcdonalds.

>>17463630
Why does anyone owe you anything?

>>17463630
>>and is nowhere close to reality
>http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-epipen-costs-idUSKBN16Y24O
>lmao
what the fuck does epipens have to do with the definition of 1st world you illiterate retard.

The retarded definition you made up has nothing to do with first world and is nowhere close to reality. Healthcare costs have literally nothing to do with the definition of a first world country.

>and what is your argument? logical?
very.

>its clear you have the mentality of a kid, just kys
>EVERYONE SHOULD PAY FOR MY PROBLEMS
and i have the mentality of a kid? lel

>>17463638
>monkey doesn't realize he's not entitle to a job and isn't entitle to keep that job
so why shouldnt they be entitled to free healthcare then?

>When you're a valuable employee it's not a matter of you keeping a job, it's a matter of the job keeping you
so delusional. were you old enough yet to realize what was happening during the great recession?

>the best you can do is working for fucking Walmart or Mcdonalds
yaeh well some people lost the genetic lottery and that is the height of their mental/physical capabilities. not everyone is a 'superior specimen' such as yourself, roflmao

>>17463652
>what the fuck does epipens have to do with the definition of 1st world you illiterate retard.
and you are calling me illiterate. lmao

>Healthcare costs have literally nothing to do with the definition of a first world country
your american education doesnt allow you to read what i type or something?
>sure, they are an allied nation
1st world in the 21st century being synonymous with developed nation, a 'truly' developed nation offers free healthcare :^)

>>17463662
>so why shouldnt they be entitled to free healthcare then?
because people are not entitled to free stuff from other people for no reason.

>so delusional. were you old enough yet to realize what was happening during the great recession?
I've had a job since I was 17 in 2004. i worked through and lost a job in the recession. So yes.

>yaeh well some people lost the genetic lottery and that is the height of their mental/physical capabilities.
If that's all they've resigned themselves to ever be then they can't be surprised when they are in debt and cannot afford things.
Then if they make poor life decisions and end up with kids and further put themselves in a financial hole. It is unreasonable to expect everyone else to come and bail them out.

>not everyone is a 'superior specimen' such as yourself, roflmao
I think I am completely average. Unless you consider hard work and ambition 'superior specimen' qualities.

>>17463366
>The problem with that is that there can be only one drug that cures someone's problem for 20 years until a generic can be released.
Ok, but the other option is shortening the patent time or doing away with them, which means it would no longer be profitable to develop those drugs, so these new drugs would never be conceived/made. There's no magic solution.

>>17463638
>haha just get a fucking job you stupid retards, you're not ENTITLED to [x]
>haha you got fired sucks to be you, you're not ENTITLED to job security
wow that really does warm my brake fluid

>>17463686
>and you are calling me illiterate. lmao
You are illiterate. You took me talking about your unrelistic and off base definition for first world to have anything to do with your bloviating about eppipens.

>your american education doesnt allow you to read what i type or something?
I read it perfectly. You tried to liken healthcare costs to having anything to do with a countries status as first world. I corrected you and you got butthurt.

>1st world in the 21st century being synonymous with developed nation
That is absolutely not the definition of first world.

> a 'truly' developed nation offers free healthcare
Cool made up bullshit definition bro.

Claiming the U.S. is not a developed nation is the height of idiocy. It is one of the most developed nations in the world. To say otherwise is fully retarded.

>>17463638
also I don't work at Walmart or Mcdonalds you cuckold cumswallowing niggerloving jew-enabling littledick manlet failed abortion raised by a single mother

>>17463712
you are not entitled to anything from anyone.

>>17463723
>haha just get a #fucking #job bro you gotta pull up those #bootstraps
>haha you got fired sucks to be you, you're not #ENTITLED to anything
By your cucklogic I can fuck your gf and it's ok because she can say "sorry Kevin, you're not ENTITLED to this pussy"

>>17463719
seems I hit a nerve :^)

>>17463726
you seriously think someone OWES you a job? get fucking real.

also your girlfriend logic makes no sense.

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>mfw my supervisor at my last job got fired literally because a manager didn't like her ("""""""At-Will employment""""""" state)
>your average Amerimongrel will fevently defend this

>>17463731
>get hired to work for an employer, do the job with maximum effort
>get fired one day because your manager decides he "doesn't like you"

>start dating a girl, be attentive and fuck her good, work your 8h a day cuckslave job
>get home one day and she's fucking me in (You)r bed because she decided you're not "entitled" to her vagina

makes perfect sense when you apply your nu-logic, cuckboi

>>17463732
>an employer fires an employee for a reason he deems appropriate in an at-will environment
>this is somehow wrong or unfair

lol kids these days.

>>17463742
>haha bro you're not #ENTITLED to a job, if you're a good employee, then you're gonna have a problem with KEEPING your job!
>haha bro you're not #ENTITLED to job security even if you're a good employee, stupid fuckin kiddos!
I'm 38 years old by the way, you sheltered millennial suburban shitling.

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stupid burger doesnt even understand how insurance even works lmao

>huur i dont want to pay for other peoples medical bills!
too bad dumb fuck, you already do

insurance companies are a business, they make profit, this means the total payed out to customers is significantly *less* than what they get from customers. so a universal healthcare system (that isnt an abortion designed to keep propping up pharmaceutical and insurance companies) would cost you *less*
and btw that money they payout to people is coming from your pocket, and other people are paying for your aids treatment, dumb faggot

>bbbut muh work pays insurance
if your company didnt have to pay insurance you would be getting paid more
idiot

>bbbut muh euro countries with 40% tax
thats because of retarded social programs, not healthcare

>>17463715
>still trying this hard, arguing literally nothing
okay, lmao

>That is absolutely not the definition of first world
Did you miss the part above it, retard? i know what a 1st world nation is, the original definition is irreverent in the 21st century and it has become synonymous with developed nation. stay mad

>It is one of the most developed nations in the world. To say otherwise is fully retarded
'one of', not even top 10 lmao

>>17463744
Post wrinkly old balls and timestamp.

>>17463738
It seems like you dont understand the employee-employer dynamic.

It's clear you've never been in any sort of supervisory role.

An employer does not owe you a job. you are one half of a (hopefully) beneficiary relationship for both parties.

If for any reason you want to terminate that relationship, you are free to do so.
If for any reason the employer wants to terminate that relationship, they are free to do so.
What is so hard to understand about this?

You think you should be forced to continue at a job after you decide you don't want to be there? No? Then why should the employer be put in that position?

>>17459330
The problem is that insulin costs that much. It's probably a few dollars in Mexico.
I still refuse to pay for your health care though. It's not a right. The only thing you're entitled to is death, everything else comes only through your hard work.

>>17463744
You're literally not entitled to EITHER of those, from ANY company. It's sad but true.

You're the fucking faggot who joins the army and tries to get people to sign his petition saying "PT scores shouldn't matter," screw off

>>17463744
38 and you've never been in any sort of supervisory role and you don't understand the employee-employer dynamic?

Damn bro. Still live with your parents too?

>>17463751
You're not ENTITLED to my ballsack.

>>17463755
>haha bro you just need to get a job and pull up those #boostraps! work hard and you'll get ahead, I swear!
>haha you got fired just because your manager doesn't like you? you're so fucking ENTITLED, stop being so ENTITLED, who cares how hard you work

>>17463769
Sorry the dream of the 90s dried up the moment you got out of high school. Try portland, they seem to support your kind.

>>17463755
It seems like you dont understand the boyfriend-girlfriend dynamic.

It's clear you've never been in any sort of relationship.

A girlfriend does not owe you sex. you are one half of a (hopefully) beneficiary relationship for both parties.

If for any reason you want to masturbate to anime, you are free to do so.
If for any reason the girlfriend wants to fuck tyrone, they are free to do so.
What is so hard to understand about this?

>>17463768
I make all my money through a quarterly dividend I receive from a property that I lease to a mining company. Not all of us are Amerimongrel jewslaves who fervently jump at the first chance to fellate the kosher overlords.

All the cucks ITT defending this type of shafting-of-the-average-blue-collar-worker is exactly why I made the move to support myself instead of working for some kike who can fire me at a whim, regardless of how efficient or productive I am.

>>17463777
What? Literally nothing in my posts is even indicative of what "kind" of person I am, you narcissistic sheltered millennial suburban child.

>>17463782
You get it.

>>17463761
>haha bro you just need to get a job and pull up those #boostraps! work hard and you'll get ahead, I swear!
>haha you got fired just because your manager doesn't like you? you're so fucking ENTITLED, stop being so ENTITLED, who cares how hard you work

>>17463769
do you know what the free market is?
you are free to be fired.
you are free to find a job somewhere else
you are free to not work at a job that is not a good fit for you
likewise
your employer is free to fire you
your employer is free to not like you
your employer is free to hire someone who is a better fit
your employer is free to not appreciate your work, however hard it may be

You really think an employer should be FORCED to keep an employee on against their will?

There is no way you are 38 year old. No one makes it to that age and is still this delusional. I refuse to believe.

>>17463785
do you know what the sexual free market is?
you are free to be cucked.
you are free to find a gf somewhere else
you are free to not be with a gf that is not a good fit for you
likewise
your gf is free to cuck you
your gf is free to not stay with you
your gf is free to choose someone who has a bigger dick
your gf is free to not appreciate your pencildick, however many times you may thrust it

You really think a girl should be FORCED to stay with a man against her will?

:^)

>>17463785
38 puts him as a first wave entitled hipster millennial. Makes perfect sense that he's this delusional.

>>17463783
You can slather on sarcasm all you want, you're still speaking the bone-stock truth. Did you know that babies can die from diseases as well, and nobody can do anything about it? Why not write up some smarmy post about that?

So can I sign your faggot petition or not? I'd love for uncle Sam to come in and tell businesses who they can and cannot employ.

>>17463799
>e-everyone who doesn't agree with me is a stereotype!
Sorry, but I'm literally defending the concept of "getting paid for hard work". How is any of that "hipster" or "entitled", you intellectually dishonest bus-riding cucklord jew-fellator?

Do you just enjoy getting shafted on a daily basis by kikes, or are you a cuckolded nu-male (((civic nationalist right-wing millennial)))?

>>17463801
>implying anything in my posts even remotely alluded towards government intervention
You millennials really are a special bunch.

>>17463761
>You're literally not entitled to EITHER of those, from ANY company. It's sad but true.
How old are you? In the '1st world' there are rules put in place so a good employee cannot be fired because their manlet cuck boss feels inadequate when standing next to the employee.

>>17463337
Hmmm the plot thickens. I bet that anon is obese and eats like shit

>>17463806
$5 says he's an 18 year old whose mommy still shuttles him around in her Toyota Sienna. Everything he learned about the real world he learned on 4chan though, so he's totally "redpilled"!

>>17463805
Then who ensures you keep your job? There's nothing to protect you otherwise. You sign a contract? cool. Who enforces that contract? The fucking tooth fairy?

You think millennials are dumb while you sit there and pray that someone bigger and stronger will swoop in and care for you? Really? Fucking gen x faggot, you're all the same

>>17463782
>>17463798
You're trying to troll but fnily enough your analogy is perfect.

Much like an employer. A girl is under no obligation to stay with you, likewise you are under no obligation to stay with a girl. If either party wants to part ways they are free to do so.

There is no entitlement for you or her to stay with the other.

It's the same fucking thing. Two private independent entities choosing to have or continue a relationship. Or either of those two entities choosing to end it.

The fact that you think an employer (or a girl) somehow owes you anything means you are a child and don't understand how the world works.

>>17463799
anon was born in the 70s, learn to do math you stupid americunt

>>17463806
do you not know what at will employment is?

>>17463816
>literally defending cuckoldry
TOP
ROFLMAO

>>17463815
I'm a blue-collar landowner, you cucklord. I don't need anyone to "take care of me", because I'm not an entitled little effete child like you are :^)

>>17463824
Yeah like I said, most Amerimongrels nowadays are unironically lost causes. They're pretty much born to worship at the altar of the eternal jew

>>17458865
Tell them that you're a cop, and if you were in duty, you would have to arrest them.

>>17463810
Whatever bro. I'll just enjoy being 25, affluent, employed and useful while you get on the anonymous image board to lament your shortcomings and that at any moment you fear spontaneous unemployment.

>>17463825
You're the one crying that it's not fair that someone might not seem you useful enough to earn your precious 15 an hour, so I don't know what you're talking about. Nice use of emoji though, very precocious. Can you link me your insta?

>>17463824
"I missed the point" - The Post.

Do you seriously think you are entitled to a girl being with you?

Sure is getting /r9k/ in here.

>>17463749
>stupid basement dwellers still ignoring this post
kek

>>17463835
Whatever "bro", I'll enjoy collecting $70k every 4 months and shitting on millennial cucks like you who jump at any chance they can get to defend their jewish leash-holders. I like how all of you self-righteous zealous millennial know-it-alls become selectively illiterate with regards to things like people older than you making sounder financial decisions and being overall more successful than you.

Why don't you just buy some land and lease it to a mining company like I did?

:^)

>>17463844
It wouldn't cost any less because I'd still be paying for everyone's healthcare, except instead of them being employed, they'd be bottom dwelling scum. A third of the US doesn't even pay taxes.

>>17463852
>/r9k/ busrider roleplays

>>17463835
>affluent
lmao okay, how 'affluent'?

>employed and useful
you arent useful, you are disposable trash. just like everyone else. you have just deluded yourself into thinking otherwise so you can feel a sense of superiority. you are only posting itt to feed your ego. i bet you have a small dick and are ugly roflmao, you are a horrible person just kys

>>17463861
lol the millennial is having a meltdown

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>>17458865
Tell them to hold their hands out and say 'when.'

Spray them like this.

>>17463862
That's the crux of most millennial "im successful and ur not" shitposting on almost all of 4chan nowadays
>I'm 25 and I make $15k a month by shilling for Cars 3 on Instagram
>b-but it's impossible for someone older than me to make any kind of serious money in real estate, t-that's just LARPing!

>>17459130
I CC a shield, but in my mind I try to act as though I'm not carrying at all. If I can defuse, escape, or even defend myself without my weapon, that is ALWAYS preferable to using it. That said, given the type of people that I live around being a poorfag college student, I take full advantage of living in a free country and a state with decent gun laws

>>17459703
dude thats awesome,

>tfw I'll never get my dream car that is only a diesel version of my current car (VW Golf)

it makes me sad sempai, but maybe I'll get a diesel wrangler when they come out in '18

>>17463937
>being a poorfag college student, I take full advantage of living in a free country and a state with decent gun laws
you rob people? otherwise you wouldnt be taking full advantage

>>17463862
If this is your mindset then there is no point continuing my discussion, I look forward to leaving my house and getting my dick sucked in my supra while you sit here and refresh the thread to see if I reply

>>17458865
What? You didn't think there was any downside to driving a status car? What, you thought it would be "Oo, look at him, isn't he something, leasing his precious German plastic luxury car"

im just glad i never have to look any of you in the eye

>>17459138
None of this happened

>>17459330
You were doing great until that last line

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>>17463047
>just take a trip to mexico bro

>>17463045
I'm not even white and I've been called a cracker ass bitch for not giving money too
Black dudes are hilarious

>>17463138
Probably not. Maybe if it was mixed in it might spark, but diesel fuel in a petrol simply won't spark. If you put petrol in a diesel though, good fucking luck to you.

What the fuck is 90% of this thread? Get this off /o/

>>17459330
Do us all and yourself a favor, shoot up your office building. Get rid of some traffic

>>17465873
if you're too poor to afford medicine in a developed country, go to an undeveloped one where you can get it cheaper.

Their cost of living is also cheaper there too, you'll love it.

>>17458865
I've only had this happen to me at the gas stations near where I work. I usually just say sorry I don't have any cash on me and that's typically the end of it. Probably helps that I work in fast food so I'm wearing my uniform when I come out of work and I drive a shitbox. They know I don't have money to give them even if I wanted to.

It's probably worse for you with a BMW. Do they pester you more if you look wealthier?

>>17466430
Anybody who drives a status car will get this done to them. Whether or not they deserve it. I guess you can tell who's owned one before by whether the anon is surprised at this or not.

You literally just ignore them.

>>17458865
with another thread >>17468599

>>17459330
Damn dude move country. I'm in NZ and got type 1 two years ago and it's pretty much fully funded because our healthcare isn't shit. The pens were free and I just pay like $20 now and then for the insulin.

>>17463337
Idk, dawg. If I really limit my carb intake I can get it down to ~1.75 vials of novolog a month. My last a1c was 6.3 with no lows under 74.

>>17463809
I have never heard of a fat (type 1) diabetic. I'm 27 y.o., 5'8, and 150 lbs.

saged.

>>17458865

Happened to me a few times.


>Guy walks up to me holding a gas can
>Running low on gas blah blah have to get somewhere.

>Sorry, I don't have any money

>Dude I'm not asking for money I'm asking for gas

>gas costs money

>he gives me the most dumbfounded look in existence.

>>17459130
>I've heard a startling number of people on this board complain about others coming up to them at gas stations and begging for gas money. It's fucked.

You need to tell the station staff that people keep on hanging around outside badgering the customers for money. Go onto Yelp and make comments about the station too. Some publicity is usually what it takes to make them do something about problems.


>>17459138
>I got right up in their face and told those dirty coons
Someone recently told them off at a local gas station. Due to liberal witnesses, Hate Crime charges were filed against the driver for using discriminatory words. The driver was arrested and charged for hate crime based upon witness affidavit statements taken by the police. Remember, beggars are people too and can have the police and courts file hate crime charges against you.

>>17459194
>shopping center parking lots get this a lot too
If there are homeless shelters nearby or other social welfare services in the vicinity, then those store parking lots have a lot of loiterers in them. Be sure to report the problem to the store manager. If you just tell some random employee, they'll go sure sure and do nothing after you leave.

>>17461420
>They don't really want gas money, it's just a conversation starter.
In some cases, the conversation is to distract you while someone else sneaks up on you. That happened in my walmart parking lot.

>>17461493
>If they get pushy I get rude.
Better not go into the store to pay for your gas. You leave your car, they scratch it out of anger. I've had youths throw rocks at my car before at the gas station. Then they run off.

Its as easy as " No habla inglés "

>>17470516
Activists wanted to have our city add homeless shelter, homeless social welfare service center, and a needle exchange and new syringe supply center. Yes, a center that gives out fresh new syringes without exchange. I can see our downtown sliding downhill some more. Adding that only makes certain people loiter around the whole area. City Hall has a park around it that no one uses or ever sits on the benches. Not even protesters use it. They should move the homeless shelter there if the council wants these crime magnet services so much. Let their cars be prowled.

Right now, the downtown parking garage is a scary place. I never know if someone is going to dash out of their hiding place between cars or behind a car and a wall. Walking alone from the car or walking alone to the car is a bit scary.

>>17458865
"No"
and I go forth about my day.

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>>17458992
>yanks

>>17459330
Wow America is an absolute shithole

but at least I could finance a v6 camaro!

>>17471382
>Wow America is an absolute shithole
It's just that there are no regulations or competition in both the medical and legal fields. No advertising or competition on price and indirect price fixing means huge profits to the sellers. Having a strong national medical plan to hold costs down is discouraged.

The problem with the USA's high costs is that it also hurts medical care in other countries. Doctors in those countries can make a lot more money in the USA, and so they abandon those countries once they get their medical degree and emigrate to the USA. 2 weeks ago, there was even someone in an /o/ thread who said he was leaving the netherlands since it was only paying him $66K salary (equivalent) for his medical degree.

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>>17471367

Now, it is more likely 48%

how is this thread about to fucking cap off.

who are these people giving this therad 2.5 responses each

>>17458865
'Sorry, I cannot help you' and standing your ground is usually more than sufficient. Most of the time they'll get huffy and stomp off to find an easier mark.

>>17472374
You can also take an alternate route when you drive out of the store's parking lot. Look for signs of broken glass on the ground. If so, then there is a lot of car prowling. That's because many major store lots are cleaned each night (or every other day, 3 days) by those sweeper trucks. So if you see glass on the ground, that had to appear there since the previous cleaning. It can also serve as a guide how far out in the lot you can park. At my local walmart, that is no further than halfway out before the risk zone.

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>>17472124
>No regulations in the medical field

>>17463262
You like in America, you Vegas AIDS nigger

>>17459330
lol look at tubby melting down

>>17470542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L174xUWK6bg

>>17459330
Call a charity you faggot.

>>17459330
>>17473816
http://www.healthline.com/health/insulin-medication-comparing-patient-assistance-programs#2
Get looking you faggot.
BUT MAH GOVERNMENT SHOULD JUST GIBS!

>>17459330
>Type 1 diabetes is a complex genetic disorder. It occurs more frequently in families in which there are other relatives with type 1 diabetes and other autoimmune conditions.

>Children have a 5% to 6% chance of developing diabetes if their father has type 1 diabetes, and a 3% to 4% chance if their mother has type 1 diabetes. It is thought that some of the mother’s chromosomal material, or DNA, gets inactivated when passed on to the child, thereby accounting for the difference in the children’s diabetes risk.
Also don't breed, I don't want to have to pay for your kids "life saving" medicine if we could just have them not live in the first place.

>>17473866
*observation

>>17459130

Edgy

>>17473828
>designed to assist people who don’t have any prescription drug coverage.

I have insurance. The issue is that while I may only pay $40/month copays for my insulin, the insurance has to pay for those insane prices- hence why my [low deductible] insurance premium is over $600 monthly.

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>>17473938
>waaah PAY MUH HEALTHCARE

Lol look at the fatboy melting down

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>>17473952
the tripcode adds 100lbs by default so things aren't looking to good for Tubby5.

>>17463093
This happens everywhere bums asking for money and there is also gypsies people from other countries who pretend to be homeless and beg for money. They keep part of it and give the rest to the boss?

>>17473952
Boogie?

Yeah hes's fucking fat, like planetary fat and I'm a bit fat my self, but seeing him gives me hope that I'm still able to save my self, that mother fucker needs a surgery or some shit at this point.

>>17473444
You don't need to pretend to be stupid. You should already know what that poster meant since the context was about competition. It is not about malpractice regulations, medical standards (regulations), licensing regulations, etc.

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>>17473975
Fat people on the internet always claim their diabetes is type one so they can go MUH GENETICS some more and don't want to admit they have diabetes in the first place because they're fat fucks.

>>17473896
It isn't an obsession when your degeneracy is talked about

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this is what you get for driving an x3

>>17473963
>gypsies people from other countries who pretend to be homeless and beg for money
I was fooled by teenagers into giving them money. They were only pretending as a source of easy money. Damn, american kids have no pride as honest ethical human beings. All that matters is getting money even by scamming.

I became salty after that. Now, I don't give any money away. All charity giving is on moratorium until those kids give the money back. I also vote NO whenever I can on any referendums for social welfare until those kids give my money back. Until that occurs, I say let evolution sort out the problem like it used to. Humans physically and mentally improved from the cro-magnon species days to how they were in the 1900's due to evolution. But now, social welfare re-introduces the keeping and propagation of undesirable genetic mutations and diseases. Evolution has been halted for some time. Maybe we even have reverse evolution due to extensive social welfare.

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>>17474004
Does this look like a fat man's forearm? I'm 27, 5'8, 150 lbs plus or minus 5.

>>17474052
>AIDS

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>let let manage the price of drugs the """"""""""""free""""""""""" market will always be the best.
>>17463839
maybe because he to use the most retarded analogy on earth to prove that he is not a cuck

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>>17474217
>fat boy got his brother to take a picture for him

lol the meltdown continues

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>>17474401
>mfw I haven't talked to my brother in a year.

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>>17474422
you posted the wrong image. Let me help you.

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>>17474428

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>>17473938

>$600 monthly

Way to go faggot, I pay more than that in income taxes every month.

Living in America seems great if you have means, but if you're an unintelligent shitposting faggot with no money, I guess it sucks.

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>>17474217
What up nig?

>>17459326
T2 isnt passed by genes. Lol what a fatty retard

Where the fuck are the mods

drive a nissan gtr in albuquerque and get approached daily with this shit

>>17462168
>I'm from /k/ though.
no you're not
quit trying to make us look like retards and get the fuck off the site, stupid cunt

>>17463742
>Boomer high on diversity sees mr chan working so hard, they're all such great workers" he thinks to himself
>mr chan gets promoted to manager
>Entire staff suddenly laid off and replaced with zhangs, and lucy lee's
I'd argue with you but i actually have a subtly Jewish last name and it's helped me out quite a bit. Wouldn't have had a job through uni without it, but chances are its not good for you or your kids since there are better options that favour meritocratic hiring/firing practises.

>>17476071
>/o/ mods
O I am laffin

Look at the beggar with a confused look and say in a very weird accent "sorry, no english, no english." If they persist, make some fake Arabic up and speak gibberish at them.

Always tremendously lulzy.

Maybe 7 years ago, I had to drive to Minnesota. For whatever reason my credit card got flagged as suspicious activity, and wouldn't work. It was thru my bank, they gave me the runaround and said I had to wait 2 days before it re-activated so I was stuck sitting at this gas station in the middle of Bemidji thinking..."wow, I'm going to actually have to ask for money like a degenerate."

I ended up getting 20 bucks off a lady and limping home. I asked her for her address so I could send her a check, and I think she got freaked out that I would rob her house. It's something I think about all the time, with shame. My lack of preparation and carelessness led me to beg. I make sure now that I have enough cash on had always to make it back home, no matter what.

>>17458865
>How do you respond to people who ask you to fill up their gas tank because they need to go to their dying aunt's cancer party 500mi away in the desert?
"I'm not a charity"

>>17458980
Ya pretty much

>>17476875
No, start speaking Russian to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofx7w_7dDEc

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>>17475700
I like these 0.3cc ones with the half-unit marks.

I do understand those 1ccs with the 1/2" needles are good for banging drugs though lol.

>>17462978
>I shouldn't have to pay for your medical expenses!
>durr insurance pays for all of mine

do you know how insurance works? are you retarded?

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I gave money once to an old man who was crying in the streets, he told me he's brother left him behind with no money and no cellphone. He asked for about three fiddy for the bus.


Next week, I find this old man in the same spot asking for money again, this time he smelled like alcohol. I went to him, asked if he remembered me, spat on his face and left.
I have never given money to anyone again after that, if they have an issue and I feel like helping that day, I either pay for the thing they need (food, bus ticket..etc) or they can go fuck themselves.

>>17458865
If they're asking for a fill up and not money? Yeah, I probably would. Dunno if I'd fill up their whole tank, but I'd give them a good 5 gallons or so. If you can't get where you're going in 5 gallons, you need more help than I got.

>>17481970
>If they're asking for a fill up and not money?
No way I fill up someone else's car with a fake sob story. I'll fill up if the story is real. But there's so much lying out there that I require proof it is not a liar's story. This is probably another scheme the welfare and homeless use to fill up all their cars without paying. After conning more gas, they just go on their way. If they want gas from me, then they should not lie for it.

>>17458865
>How do you respond to people who ask you to fill up their gas tank because they need to go to their dying aunt's cancer party 500mi away in the desert?

I require names and then I will look them up to verify the truth of the story as I have a subscription account to a data service. If they refuse to be cooperative, then I would just tell them they are the ones that chose to be uncooperative.

>>17458865
>How do you respond to people who ask you to fill up their gas tank

I play the 20 questions game. I ask a ton of questions. I don't say yes or no to the money they want to fill up their car. By the time my questions are over with, my car is filled up. I then drive away.

>>17465977
lol actually did this in a van. had hiccups for few days, all good after next fill up. it was 1/3 petrol in it

>>17483519
Hope you used top tier gas after that to have the detergents remove traces of diesel out of your gast tank, fuel system, and the carbon that results from burning the diesel oil.

>>17459330
bullshit and all your bullshit about losing your case against them is also bullshit

>>17480153
insurance is a financial tool that people and corporations pay into willingly in order to spread medical costs around and even out participants healthcare costs into easy monthly payments

the trick here is that all participants actively and willingly choose to partake in this interaction
this is different from socialized medicine which forces people to participate regardless of their desire to

>>17463039
>Mexico
the reason healthcare is cheap in Mexico mostly has to do with insurance and financial responsibility for malpractice

yes, insulin is cheaper in Mexico, but good luck getting any financial compensation from the manufacturer for a defective batch in Mexico

>>17459088
most people

>>17462840
is this what austism looks like?

>>17485094
He may have had a crappy lawyer that only went thru the motions. There are bad lawyers and good lawyers just like there are bad students and good achieving students. But since lawyers and doctors have a weird type of non-competitive control of their marketplace, free market forces don't help the consumer as much. Thus the bad lawyers often cost as much as the good ones.

>>17459330
god damn it costs 30k a year just to keep you alive.... and we as a people should be expected to sustain you? you should work to keep yourself alive, dont you think that's logical? muh gibs

>>17459330
aren't you a junkie you fat diabetic piece of shit

>>17463256
>why you ask? THATS JUST HOW IT IS, BUSTER!

>>17485094
85%+ of the plant works for a "recruiting company" that is literally headquartered in the factory. I was hired through the recruiting agency to work for the company's national conglomerate shell company headquartered 1000+ miles away in another state. The people who fired me worked for the actual company. Every company pointed the finger at each other and there was no definitive evidence of who was wrong so they all got off the hook.

Subversion and money always win.

>>17458865
>not carrying around counterfeit currency for exactly this reason

I always give them $50 and they continue on their way. Only ever got called out on it one time.

>>17487383
>Subversion and money always win.
No, a lot of times it is from your own lawyer giving up because his company rates cases in terms of cash flow - dollars per hour. At some point, it is more profitable to him to move onto another case to churn through them. He may also be under pressure to churn through a case load.

A judgement could still have been done. The wrong did occur. What happens is your court case is then put on hold while a 2nd court case is opened to determine who is guilty among the four. That's the purpose of court trials. It's just that your lawyer probably felt you didn't have enough money to pay him for the 2nd case, so he wimped out at that point.

>>17470506

wtf is a hate crime?

>>17459330

>Just imagine being a black person brought up in an impoverished neighborhood in a shitty school where the culture is to make fun of you if you try hard.

Maybe not having the safety net will lead to a change in cultural attitudes? Try hard or die.

>>17487623
Why should I be slaving away for the white man's prosperity? Slavery is illegal. What we have now is a modernized form of slavery.

>>17459330
>Just imagine being a black person brought up in an impoverished neighborhood in a shitty school where the culture is to make fun of you if you try hard.

This is why we need to liquidate the occupants of these ghettos. Build giant walls around them, then send Stormtroopers in to purge the world of this filth.

>>17487771
oh get the fuck out of here

>>17487532
>It's just that your lawyer probably felt you didn't have enough money to pay him for the 2nd case, so he wimped out at that point.

You're right; hence "money always wins."

>>17487623
>Maybe not having the safety net will lead to a change in cultural attitudes? Try hard or die.

In a world where everyone buys from walmart and amazon, it's nearly impossible to run a local business of your own. This leads to millions of wageslaves who can't afford their own housing and transportation - and many turn to crime.

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>>17487771
>Slavery is illegal. What we have now is a modernized form of slavery.

I used to not think this, but I see it every day. I come from a family rooted in 'the intelligence community' and there are so many rich racist rednecks in mcmansions hoarding/hiding money it is crazy.

I see police break the law nearly every day (mostly traffic laws), but it's okay to put depressed men in cages and make them do labor because "drugs are illegal, the law's the law, and that's just how it is." It's nearly impossible to use a car or a computer and not break the law, but 1/2 of federal prisoners are there because of drugs which are completely harmless (heroin is just a morphine delivery system and meth is just fat-soluble adderall).

Humans need to learn empathy.

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>>17488036
Ayy, BoC. Noice

>>17462865

>>it's all because of free-market dipshits who've been hooked-up with jobs their whole lives that think they somehow "earned" it.

What a line of shit... You do know that while you may have a genuine disability it doesn't mean the rest of us haven't busted our asses to get what we've got. So, to side with the conservatives in the audience, fuck you snowflake.

P.S. I've got a degenerative spinal disorder with which I lose about a half inch of height each year as my spine folds and tries to climb out under my ribcage. I am saving all I can for the absolute fortune all the surgery is costing me... get bent (heh, little pun about myself there). if I can keep a job I don't see why you can't. and if you can't, well, that's why, unlike the conservatives, I don't mind still contributing part of my already decimated income to support programs.

>>17488036
>Slavery is illegal.
The many african tribes were already enslaving each other long before the white man or the brown man sailed to their waters. As living conditions go, those were far more primitive than now and there was certainly no social welfare and social medicine. So if blacks want reparations for a slavery culture being beaten into them, they should seek it first from their african kin who created that culture for them.

>>17459130
>I've heard a startling number of people on this board complain about others coming up to them at gas stations and begging for gas money.

Or they have the "I need bus fare to <pick location 50 miles away>". The stories are fake since there are no buses to that location I was told. The person didn't know I was from that area. I have yet to hear a "real" story although some are fairly convincing lies because they typically require the listener to know things he cannot know.

ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS to poke a hole in their stories. If they need money for a ride back to somewhere, ask them how they got to here in the first place. And don't be satisfied with a non-answer such as "i got a ride from someone".

>>17459164
>you might consider not stopping at ghetto gas stations.
They commute using mass transit bus systems for which they get free subsidized monthly or quarterly bus passes. So its no problem for them to go to the nice areas where they have a better chance of bigger scores.

My Arco and Shell and Chevron stations can't stop the loiterers on the public sidewalk from walking over. Sam's Club had that problem until they dug a drainage ditch between the sidewalk and the station. It is deep and muddy but importantly, the sides are slick and hard to climb out. The nearest drive in entrance to the station is hundreds of feet away of walking to be able to reach the closest car getting gas. That's due to the remodeled landscaping barriers. With that great a walking distance, the loiterers don't have a chance to walk in and out each time. All shrubbery is low and airy so no one can hide behind a bush. Sam's spent quite a bit on the landscape paving and remodeling after a lady customer getting gas was robbed by a loiterer.

Sam's probably wouldn't have done anything, but the police obtained security footage showing the cap wearing minority loiterer. It was put on TV and sam's club was mentioned as the unsafe place. The newspapers had a snapshot example and also mentioned sam's club as the unsafe place where you have to watch out for robbers. I bet that bad PR stung Sam's enough for them to make changes and they did.