Name ONE (1) 2017/2018 car or truck RIGHT NOW that'll still

Hyundai elantra. Those things will be 3k civics in 20 years.

>>17444403
Any tesla

>>17444426

Even electric motors wear out, not to mention batteries.

>20+ year old electric car with electrical gremlins

Pretty much any modern car that isn't high strung or forced induction. Modern cars are more reliable.

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>>17444444
>those numbers

none everything today is garbage. Saturn's and Pontiac's will out last new model cars today

>>17444466
If they aren't chop shopped for parts...

>>17444444
That's fucking sexy boiiii

>>17444444
At least the digits went to a wagon

>>17444466
>GM cars from the early 2000s will outlast cars not made out of shitty plastic

>>17444414
Hyundai lineup in general. They maybe chink quality in terms of plastic but they will last.

>>17444535
Where I live they're regarded as 7-year-car for a good reason. Koreans are masters of planned obsolescence.

>>17444444
nice digits
nice car
nice color
nice roof rack
nice white tires
very nice get

>>17444403
Gen 2 LS/GS430

>>17444403
Peterbilt 389

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>>17444444

Unironically Ford F 150. If I had a penny for how many 80's F 150's I still see on the roads today.

Say what you will about Ford but their trucks are built to last.

>>17444444
As much as I love W123 (they're literally my favorite cars), that post is off-topic. I mean, didn't the OP ask for cars that are being built NOW?

>>17444438
This has got to be a fucking joke.

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Based on what I see at work, I'm going to say the Chevrolet Impala, regardless of engine. Our of all the cars and trucks Chevy sells, the Impala seems to have the least mechanical problems. I haven't seen any with the 2.5L or 3.6L come back with major issues. The trucks maybe but they seem to get recalled every couple months

>>17444535
they also have electric steering

any Toyota, the auris/corolla with the 1.8 valvematic in particular

NA 3rd gen Ford Focus with the 5-speed manual

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My Dad's 8yo Kia has around 210k miles on it. So, gookshit I guess?

>>17446226
Pretty muchThis, Toyotas really are built to last, my Toyota 4runner is almost 20 years old and has had minimal problems, most of which are just cosmetic.

>>17444444

>Maximum Over-Checked

>>17444403
Any full size pickup or BoF SUV that isn't built by Nissan.

>>17444403
Ford F150

>>17444403
My dads 2008 corolla.
That thing is still as new and gets overpriced Toyota dealership services yearly.

We need rules not just running.
>no lower engine rebuilds
>original trans
>never need more than $1500 of work at one time

>>17444444
My heart is melting

ND Miata will be fine except for the electric steering.

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Any cheap shitbox that's not European or """"American""""

>>17444403
Camry, easy

>niggas think that Hyundais will make it to 250k

Idk man the current early models can't even make it to 150k

Honda hrv or the older 1.8 civics.

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>>17444403
You can stop waiting now

>>17446756
sorry scratch the civic comment. Just realized its only 17/18 cars

>>17444403
For shit sake, get over your self. I just pulled a refrigerated box of a 2000 chevy 1ton that had 40k on the small block chevy under the hood. I had a '90 f150 that I recently sold that had that kind of mileage. ANY modern car that is not run into the ground and taken car of will do what you described. Will they need occasional repair work? Well yes. But shit wears out on any car, even 70s Checkers or 80s Volvos.

>>17446989
The chevy 1ton had 400k on the odometer.

>>17444527
>shitty plastic never dies
>ecotick engine can do a million miles on irregular oil change

You can shit talk gm about a lot of thing. But gm makes cars that will run like shit longer than any other brand will last.

Gotta plus 1 the year 00 GM cars with the 3100/3400 series V6s. They just seem to run forever without a care.

>>17447025
>EST
Kebi magama ja mine vittu, kuradi pede raisk

I mean I'm not sure if I'll be right or not but I think my fiesta ST will last that long. Who knows for sure it's all just guessing

>>17447032
Tra miks nii närviline varahommikul? Tahad niiske vändaga pikipõske saada v?

>>17444436
>20 year old electric car
Quite reliable.
>electrical gremlins
something you pulled out of your ass.

Only thing that will go significantly wrong in 20 years is the battery

>>17447070
>reliable
>DURR ECELTRIC GREMLYNS DON' EXKIZT
If there is a single 2017/2018 tesla running in 2037/2038 without a motor change and no electrical problems, aside from the batteries, I will shove an entire goddamn Camaro transmission up my asshole.

What will keep any new car from 250k on 20 years isn't the car. It will be the idiot behind the wheel that runs the car into the ground.

>>17447079
>blah blah blah blah blah blah

>>17446752
>I currently have a 15 y/o Hyundai Accent with 168,XXX miles on it with zero engine/transmission issues
I just change the oil regularly. It's also a manuél, which may explain the lack of trans issues

The excessive amount of electronics in modern cars makes me question the long-term reliability (and by "long term" I mean 15+ years - not 3 years like JD Power's ratings).
Electronics are almost always the first thing to break in a car, but it hasn't been as much of an issue as it is now.

It used to be the radio or headlights would go out, and you could either repair/replace them for a fairly low price or just ignore it.

But now core components, things like speedometers or digital. It's even worse for all of these cars with "driver assist" packages on them.
All of these people accustomed to driving with blind spot sensors - what happens when it breaks, they don't shoulder-check, and run right into someone?

>>17447079
Buckle up buckaroo kek

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>>17444403
Chevy SS

>>17447070
I operate a lot of electrical machines over the years, they have all sorts of gremlins. I can't wait for the first Tesla to have one. The turd will stop dead in the middle of the road. And I don't mean coast, I mean it will lock up the wheels and slide to a stop. You better hope there isn't a trucker behind you.

>>17444426
>tesla motors (a fucking electric motor) went bad after just 36,000 miles
Lmaono

>>17447294
Commodores will run forever with some basic care and maintenance.

>tfw no VF commodore
;-;

>>17444403
Skoda Octavia

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>>17444403

>>17447425
lmao
my buddy's dad has one, worst quality ever
interior started peeling everywhere in under a year

>>17447231

The blind spot sensors constantly light up when cars go past you as you're driving.

I reckon it'd be pretty obvious if they weren't working as you'd never see them light up

>>17444403
Any Chevy or Ford pickup with a V8 and not some shitty Ecomeme™ engine.

HARDBODY

>>17444438
Stupidest shit I've heard in a long time.

>what are massive spider webs of wiring harnesses that only degrade with time.

>>17447122
>uh oh, he's right!
>now what?
>>17447261
I swear to fuck it'll happen if a tesla makes it.
Seeing as there are already Tesla motors shitting the bed, I suspect the transmission is staying in the car.

>>17444403
Subaru Outback

Probably the non-turbo Honda civics and CRVs.

Those things are like roaches they never die

>>17448047
>the transmission
they have no gearboxes

>>17448077
No, see, it's a camaro transmission that isn't going to be doing the fornicating.

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Majority of Toyota's or brands which are known for reliability.

>>17444403
Most 3/4 ton+ pickups should hit that no problem assuming they're reasonably maintained.

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>>17444403
Any car.
its not like the non-replaceable shell wears out. everything else is replaceable to make the car live on.

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These have already been confirmed to last at least half a million miles. One guy on the forum is still running his at 400,000+ with the original timing chain and gaskets.

>>17448177
>>17448180
Not a 2017/2018 model

>>17445716
Because the average impala owner is 70 years old and drives 2000 miles a year. Same reason why Buick scores so high in the reliability charts. Old people usually take really good care of their shit too.

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>>17448114
I-is that a Cressida?

mazda 3/miata
fiat 500
hyundai genesis
nissan 370z
most porsches
maybe most bmw/mercedes
vw golf/jetta
ladas that are still being made

i can't speak to current truck quality

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>>17448047
dude electric motors run forever they're just so damn simple

86

>>17444426
>I know literally nothing about electricity

I'm sure these highly complex cars with batteries that lose capacity with every charge will be running perfectly in 20 years. I highly doubt a single tesla will crack 150K without some kind of serious issue, especially if they continue their route of "supercharger stations"
>hey jump dump a fucktonne of amps into your battery, that won't affect capacity at all

>>17447814
>too retarded to replace a wire

Subaru, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia,
VW, Mazda,

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>>17448213
It's an AE93 GTI Corolla

>>17448980
>a wire
you have to pretty much disassemble the whole car in some cases

>>17449044
kewl
that grille throws me off and makes me think it's a higher end model for some weird reason although I looked and it's from the Corollas of that era in general

>>17444403
Maybe a low-trim Lotus Elise?
The non-supercharged version is a stock standard toyota engine, and has no electronics to malfunction whatsoever. If the car doesn't get smashed or driven like a retard it should survive.

Cases from all the big 3 pickup manufacturers will exist. Half tons, 3/4s and one tons will all have examples well north of 250k.

250k is absolutely nothing in the fleet world. The manager that inspects jobsites once in a blue moon will have 500k before he gets a new truck.

Ford Focus/etc. Will have lots of high mileage examples. Again, these are used as service vehicles.

Vans do that mileage regularly.

Falcon
Commodore
Camry

can you point me to a list of modern fleet vehicles?

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any car if properly taken care of

the shittiest, worst design vehicle being made RIGHT NOW will last that long if you dont run it into the ground like a retard

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>>17447025
i really hope the expensive car brand name duct taped/spray painted onto a shitbox becomes more popular. it is the funniest shit to me

ANY car that gets regulair maintenance.

>>17449204
>2017 commodore or falcon
>running in 5 years let alone 10
dont make me laugh

>>17447442
Sounds like a shit dad who doesnt take care of anything
t. 2015 owner with immaculate interior

>>17449289
Barras are just as reliable now as they ever have been.

Mazda Miata

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>>17444403

these regularly pass 500-750k miles

My Highlander with the 2GR-FE motor in it.

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Understressed Na v8, no bullshit suspension setup that's well thought out, easy maintenance and has an oil dipstick

Just having an oil dipstick is rare these days

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>>17444444

nobody mentioned Opel.
the company i work for has a lot of Opels with around 400k km and some VW golfs with up to 500k. the opels are in better condition though.

>>17444403
Any full size pickup. 250K isn't shit.

>>17445667
Truth. Chevrolets too. They are easy to keep on the road.

>>17444403
Ford Focus S 5spd.

Duratecs easily see 200k+.

>>17449359
yeah as if it's possible to prevent the shitty silver paint from peeling with regular usage

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>>17450217
>Understressed Na v8, no bullshit suspension setup that's well thought out, easy maintenance and has an oil dipstick
>Just having an oil dipstick is rare these days
that and the discount S class in your pic really made me think of this

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>>17445667
>bed gets pierced by an empty toolbox falling on it
laffin mahass off rite nao

>>17450662
Enginnes might but the rest of the car would have needed replacement by then.

>>17450920
You do realize the Focus S is the base model without the bells and whistles right?

>>17444444
>>17444466
>>17447122
>>17448077
>>17449044
>>17449366
>>17450566

Checked, great work.

>>17450907
ya but the only people who drive them are douchebags and cunts with too much money.

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>>17447029
My grandpa has a 2000 buick century with the 3.1. He says its been the most unreliable turd he's ever owned and he's owned 80's Chrysler vehicles.

>>17450964
that's good, it means they'll be well maintained

>>17444414
I passed 260k in my 05 Elantra.

>>17450915
That's cosmetic damage and has nothing to do with overall vehicle longevity. (It has everything to do with CAFE requirements.)

If I had to beat the shit out of I'd just toss a suitable sheet of steel into the bed (that trick goes back at least to the 1940s) and continue to beat the shit out of it. Trucks are tools.

BTW I keep trucks for many years and found it wise to remove all the bed bolts, slather them with anti-seize, and reinstall. Comes in handy when you need to unbolt a bed to change a fuel pump the easy way.

>>17444403
Any car that doesn't get pushed hard

>>17444436
I mean I'll argue that most "Electrical Gremlins" are a result of mixing mechanical and electrical systems multiple times, with a fully electric car you avoid this because there's no BS engine control/sensors/alternator to deal with, the actual drivetrain is much simpler, you have a motor maybe a gearbox of some sort and a hall effect sensor for rpm/position there's just a lot less to go wrong there.

Now batteries like >>17444436 and >>17448407 mentioned are likely to be a wear item, I'd give them 10 years at best if modern hybrid systems are any sort of a litmus test but they're apt to be somewhat replaceable.

>>17452421 also meant for >>17447079

>>17452421
>the actual drivetrain is much simpler
yet it requires more computer shit
and it's proprietary so good luck replacing it when it shits the bed unless you're an electrical engineer and a genius

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>>17444466
>>17444527
>parents bought pic related 1997 sw2 brand new from dealership
>older brother and I being children trashed the fuck out of the interior with food and shit
>brother turns 16 and tries to learn how to drive in sw2
>gave up after a month or so
>lets car sit out on street for about 2 and a half years
>I finally turn 16, want to learn how to drive
>parents say get the saturn running and it's all yours
>go outside, charge battery for 10 mins, and try to start it up
>first try.jpg
>all it we gave it were new tires, an oil change, and fixed the exhaust leak
>16 year old me treats car like trash, drive all the time for part time delivery job, give oil change every half a year
>currently has 230k miles on it and still going strong

those late 90s saturn shitboxes are absolute tanks if I ever fix the oil leak it might make it to 250k or more

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>>17452970
think again

>>17446752

My forte koup is nearing 125k miles 80 of it being Turbocharged.

>>17452963
I unironically love how this car looks. Pontiacs and Saturns were the only good looking American branded cars of that period. Anyone else like the Pontiac Aztec?

>>17452963
>>17453147
I like that saturn too, looks like a burger SAAB or something like that

>>17444444
witnessed

>>17452904

Sure in the case of a Tesla there's way more shit than their needs to be, but that's because it's a luxury car for people with too much money, done with reliability in mind you could literally just use some sort of brushless hub motor for each wheel so there's no fucking around with CV joints and differentials, you can design the car without having to worry about how to get mechanical power to the wheels since all you need is two power cables and a PWM line for the position sensor, this cuts out a ton of weight and complexity.

This means that it'd be piss ass easy to make a electric 4wd and since it's electric you would have maximum torque at zero rpm which would be great for offroading.

>>17450907
The professional version maybe, the one you posted has too many electronics. Mercedes doesn't do reliable electronics these days, not sure if they really ever did.

>>17453712
Hub motors are shit, Even for something as simple as a Ebike. Motors need a relatively high gear reduction which is why literally everything powered by an electric motor uses a gear reduction. That "ludicrous instant torque" in a Tesla comes from the gear reduction.

>>17450907
If only you could get a 2 door with a soft top and an I6.

>>17446262
Clearly you don't live in the rust belt

>>17453712
>all you need is two power cables and a PWM line for the position sensor, this cuts out a ton of weight and complexity.
>using 1/0 motors
lel

>>17453897
not too many when it comes to essential functions
also you could downgrade it to an older model electrically with relative ease since they're so simple mechanically

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>>17444444
tenouttaten

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdJXh1ffs8g

Ausfag here we already have a tonne of 20-30 year old SS's here they are unkillable

>>17447331
rip holden