/CCG/ - Classic Car General good paint edition Bring your classic

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>>17390144
well I fucked up and picked the wrong picture

>>17390144
>classic car
>shoves a turbo in it
what the fuck

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>>17390161
twin turbo LS

it's a hot rod, hot rodding is fine.

>>17390161
It WAS a classic until it got chopped and fucked with.

But there's so few originals left I guess it doesn't matter.

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>>17390272
hot rods are neat

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To InternatAnon from the last thread: with your electrical issue, I'd start by checking continuity from the headlights into the cab. Youll probably need a diagram. Or at least see if you have power coming into the switch. I'm not familiar with Mopar electrical circuits, but it may run through your cluster, and if it uses that shitty printed circuit like my Bronco does, it may not be making good contact on the board.

And I went with carpet because I like how comfy it makes the interior feel. I did go with vinyl flooring for the cargo area, though.

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>>17390337
i've got carpet in the ferd. It genuinely makes it feel pleasant inside.

>>17390344
It really does. My '72 rust bucket Ford F100 had vinyl flooring and it was not comfy feeling at all.

>figure under dash ac shouldn't be too hard to install
>put off looking it up for a week or so
>units with compressors and mounts for /6 are hard as fuck to find
>find one for sale on a forum
>it was sold 7 days ago
Well fuck me

>>17390567
Have you considered Vintage Air?

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>>17390344
Dunno if you've experienced it but 60's cars seem to have so much window space that when the sun is out it feels genuinely bright and cheery inside your vehicle.

>>17392453
That's one thing I love about my 68 Lincoln.
So much glass, so much visibility

>>17392453
Yep. Only problem is the cardboard in my headliner warped after a decade of sitting in the sun so it blocks my mirror.

You get so much light and air flow though. It's p comfy until you get to about 90 degrees out

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My Camino, got it on 4 jacks and in a garage now. I need to figure out how to hook up an entire engine and transmission before it will run again

>>17392814
That looks way too clean for a car shoved out to pasture.

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>>17392825
I just kept it at a friends house after the engine and transmission swap because I was busy but it was not out there long

>>17390344

The International has a vinyl floor that I've been thinking about replacing with carpet. Probably when I finally get the floorboards patched.

>Corvair gains oil out of nowhere.
That's a new one.
>>17392471
My tC feels like driving a bunker by comparison to these old cars but surprisingly my Duster has even worse visibility.

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So I'm told my car would've had factory air...I mean, as pics show it has the ports on firewall, vacuum reservoir, screw holes for pipe clamps, and two-belt crankshaft pulley.

I was previously told (on this board maybe? Or A forum? Can't remember which) that the fact it had button controlled vents rather than an entirely cable system meant factory air, but this seems to confirm it.

Would it be at all possible for a 134 system to work with the piece that is still in the dash (assuming THAT works), or would that have to be pulled out too?

>>17392445
I also looked there, they have nothing specific to Mopar A-bodies at all--at best, one of the universal setups.

>>17393237
Fuck new cars desu. Also how long it's been shut off for and inclines affect oil level.

>>17393301
>Would it be at all possible for a 134 system to work with the piece that is still in the dash

Depends on if it's a fixed orifice tube (FOT) or thermal expansion valve (TXV) type system.

If FOT, you'll need to change it. TXVs adjust themselves for the different refrigerant.

The other differences between R12 and R134 are:

R134 requires "barrier" hoses; the molecules are smaller and they'll leak through an R12 hose.
Not really an issue since you don't have any hoses there.

R134 requires synthetic PAG oil, not dino squeezins like R12.
Not an issue since you don't have a compressor.

You'll need to change your receiver/drier if it's still on the car since it'll be full of oil and moisture.

The hose and FOT are really the only thing that are different between a 12 and 134 system, you can get away with the same compressor, condenser, and evaporator as you would use with R12.

>>17393420
How does one tell the difference between FOT and TXV? Where might the reciever/drier be located? (Pretty sure it's not there but would need to look). The radiator for the AC system that goes infront of engine radiator is also gone.

I may end up having to take the dash apart anyway, since nothing on the controls works (not sure where tow plug the two vacuum lines in the engine bay, and the fan control doesn't work--a previous owner ran a toggle switch strait to the fan motor)

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>>17393447
If it has a TXV there'll be something similar to pic related under the dash on the inlet (small) side of the evaporator. If there's nothing like that, and the inlet goes straight into the evaporator it'll use an FOT, which goes inside the inlet line.

As for the receiver/drier, if the condenser is gone it might be gone, too. It's usually near the condenser somewhere. It looks like a small air tank about 3" in diameter and 5-6" long.

>>17393447
Also what's that capped line that comes out of the firewall below the ignition box, in the middle picture >>17393301

>>17393504
I can't tell, too much shit in the way. No sign of Reciever/drier.
>>17393550
Seems to travel back along with the fuel line before they disappear.

Also, at some point I may change out the Valiant's rear end, so that all wheels have 5x4.5 bolt pattern and I won't have to carry two spares...according to codes, it has a 2.76 rear...would it be reasonable to go to an even taller gear for better mileage, or leave it as is?

Fucking hell, a/c is going to have to happen in my Bronco at some point.

Took a drive today and I was sweating like a pig after 15 minutes. Really don't want to dump the money right now. I'll probably save that project for next year.

>>17394503
Ahh, the joys of summertime in a place where the only time it isn't fuckin humid is winter.

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>>17390161
>slowfags

>>17394503
>go racing
>car sitting out in the sun all day
>hot as an auschwitz oven
>burning your hands on the seatbelt buckles
>burning your back on the seats
I need to get one of those fucking dash fans

>>17394503
Where do you live? I feel retarded, a month ago I finally drove with the little doors in the foot Wells open and I tallied they were a vent. Made it a little more livable but no action is still a drag. Wind can only do so much

Kit Kat never make a thread again. A significant portion of the board filters you.

>>17394949
You don't like classic cars now, down you Squidward?

>>17394949
Then make the thread yourself

>>17390161
>muh all original
>muh numbers matching
Fuck off. It's about fun and fast. Autists who care about all original because of MUH RESALE VALUE are fucking stupid. Enjoy your car and do whatever you want with it.

Bought a 30yr old car with almost 90k original miles
Should I pay 200 to have a shop do manual tranny oil change? Might as well have them do brake and clutch fluid flush while they're at it right?

>>17395027
If your going to restore a car, do it right. I find a numbers matching car way more impressive than a bastard pro street car

>>17395091
The odds that you'll find a numbers matching model a at this point are low. And if you do, I doubt anyone is going to drop a twin turbo ls into it and weld a camshaft on as a bumper and not paint it.

>>17395091
Oh boy a "muscle car" with a numbers matching stock 350! 170HP!

>>17395137
I mean a 1967 Camaro rs/ss convertible with a 350/350 should remain stock, but a stripper 307/3 speed car? Who gives a shit. They made a gorillion of them.

>>17395137
>>17395137
If you love classics that's what excites you. I saw a numbers matching 68 firebird 6 cylinder last week and I was super excited.

>>17390173
Colorado?

>>17395137
Gm fangirls on suicide watch

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>>17395175
I'm in Colorado, yes

>>17395240
thicc

Anyone got good tips for checking out an old ass car? I'm checking out an 82 trans am tomorrow with a 350 and 350 turbo trans. Live in virginia so rust is a pretty big concern

>>17395254
Seconded, will be looking at a 67 Polara with 383 on Saturday, similar area.

>>17395278
>>17395254
Research berforehand what fucks these cars up. Everything that would be a pain in the ass, engine, transmission, driveline, body, frame, etc. have an idea of what the signs are. Body rust is shitty but less shitty if you have a decent welder and grinder for sheetmetal. Frame rust or inaccessible body rust is worse. Do your research, find forums, buying guides, get a wide amount of info before you look.

>>17395332
What about inspections/testing if there's no tags on the vehicle? Listing says it runs aside from some tuning needs.

>>17395358
That's a state by state thing, see what the legislation is for classic vehicles.

My advice would be try every feature there is, and when you go to check the car out make sure that they do a cold start. Tell them you want to see what it sounds like without any prep.

If you here something fucked up, or out of the normal, that's a negotiating point.

>>17395358
I'm sure you could drive it up and down some street a bit if just for a test drive, but I'm no expert in every state's different inspections and registration requirements. Maybe some .gov site for virginia could help you.

>>17395373
>>17395377
I see, thanks. I got lucky with the Valiant, I didn't really do all that much before buying >W> Then again it technically had no tags either, just the unregistered '71 plate...

Also, NC, not VA!
On an unrelated note, it seems that, behind the local autozone, is a shop hat restores late 60s Oldmobiles...4-4-2s and the like.

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>>17394640
Texas. No humidity but my black truck felt like a fucking oven. Really wish I had those foot vents like you.

A/C...must...happen.

>>17395559
>tfw 95% humidity
You don't know true suffering desu

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What's your opinion on these side mirrors? Should I go with the original side mirrors?

>>17392453
it's pretty sweet, '64 Bel Air so it has a curved windshield and rear window

>>17395559
>Texas. No humidity
Say what?

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>>17395240
Hmmm

I was wondering if the car show was in Colorado, but ok

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>>17396020
That one with the grass was actually an old photo from the good guys West coast Nationals in California from a few years ago. These were from Golden super cruise though

>>17395690
I think they're alright if you have them and they work

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>Dad had a bunch of cars when he was in his 30s ish
>Got too busy with work and family, now most are all pretty much too far gone to be worth fixing
Feelsbad

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Sounds like I might be buying back my 1971 Torino 500 that I sold in 2014 I think. It's 3 hours away. 302/C4, solid with just a few bubbles.

>>17396099
Great looking car

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>>17396099
Going to repaint it and make it into something like pic related, but keeping the interior white. Might make it in a console/buckets car, right now it's column/bench.

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new gas tank

>>17396198
Shove something in with that hose to stop fumes and gas sloshing out. It may be a shitbox but you don't want a burned-out shitbox.

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>>17395254
Dont buy any trans am after 79 and only if the 79 has a PWH block.
Dont touch a 301 turbo or a 305

>>17396314
ellis juan trans am a good though

>>17395033
>$200
Fucking what dude?
When I worked at as quicklube we charged like, $60 for a manual trans oil change

took this a few days ago

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>>17396395
>mfw forget pic

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>>17396398
Sexy

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>>17396243
maybe anon
maybe not.

>>17395660
I do know true suffering. I visited Miami. I don't know how the hell people survive in the summer.

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>>17396314
>Dont buy any trans am after 79
Try and stop me

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After about 2 months and tons of trouble I finally took the truck home last friday, got registration today and everythings fine at last

I may mention that I'm a german and getting an old US-car on the road, that has just left the states and was never seen by a german governmental or technical agency, is like snorting powdered black pepper

ama

>>17397753
are you a masochist?

>>17397761
Why's that? Because of the truck's size?

>>17397753
Why the fuck is there an American format plate that's not actually any state's valid plate with DIN writing on it on your grille?

>>17398219
Because he put up the rebel flag to be as edgy as possible

>>17398219
Because thats my little hommage to the Tremors Movie (the gun nut had an Arizona plate with UZI 4U on it)

But I chose the confed flag because I got friends and family in the south

>>17398292
Nah, not really. Acutally I just wanted to give the truck just a little southern touch - or at least what most germans would call a southern touch

>>17398300
I'm not a fan desu. As much as I love outlaw country, fried chicken and jambalaya, I wouldn't put a battle flag on any of my vehicles. Your truck is really nice though. Good job on getting it registered. It must have been a nightmare

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>Bored posting while waiting on inspection on dd

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>>17398329

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>>17398317
Stop being a faggy yank kit kat the south will rise again!

Memes aside I have a Georgia flag licence plate for my 78 trans am lined up and waiting to be put on.

>>17390173
>buy classic car
>make it modern


Why do people do this shit?

>>17398349
People have been doing it since the 50s. What do you think hot rods are?

>>17398344
They won't.

Nice t/a though

>>17395027
I hate modernising old cars becaus eit defeats the purpose of old cars if you make them into modern cars.

I'm not one of those matching numbers retards.

>>17398349
Cause most hot rods were cars in rough shape to start with and there is no point in restoring a rusty shell into a fully stock, original car when it's prime hot rodding material

>>17398352
A 30's car with 50's technology.


Not a 30's car with 2017 technology.


Just buy a new car if you want something without any character.

He may aswell add plastic pumpers to it as well..

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>>17398355
>Mfw i'm a matching number retard
time to kill myself

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>>17398317
Absolutely not, he's only playing it up. On the bottom line what you actually need to change for a German registration are

- Euro approved headlights (easy to find aftermarket since old American cars all use the same two or three sizes anyway)
- Euro approved tires
- two red reflectors glued to the rear somewhere
- starting in model year 1970 amber rear indicators (can wire up amber bulbs in the reverse housings and put a new reverse light under the bumper)
- starting in model year 1991 a rear fog light

The rest is just paperwork and fees, and it can all be done in a single inspection including the emissions rating if it's prepared properly.

>>17398317
>I wouldn't put a battle flag on any of my vehicles
I guess its a different thing if youre living in the US, huh? Here it is much less of a political statement

>Your truck is really nice though
Thanks man, I appreciate that.

>Good job on getting it registered. It must have been a nightmare

Steps:

1) Get it to Europe
2) Pay customs dues
3) Change stuff thats necessary for germany (headlights, rear turn signals must be yellow)
4) Get a regular technical clearance ("TÜV")

((( 5) Register it and pay your ass off in taxes because its a 360 engine with no means of emission control)))

OR (that what I did)

6) Let another agency look over it so it gets the status of a historical car (at least 30yo, good general condition) That makes you pay only 192€ taxes a year

7) Get car to registration office and beg them to give you square plates because the long german ones wont fit the truck

At the End of the day you pay ammout X for the truck, about 2000 for shipping and import tax and another ~500-1000 to get it Germany legal and registered

So yeah, "nightmare" is pretty close.

>>17398361
Have you ever considered that other people like things that you don't like?

Chopping up a mint numbers mass

>>17398364
Whats the name of your cars color?

>>17398367
It is like that, but the way you tell it, it sounds like a walk through the park - which my stuff clearly wasnt.

>>17398361
>>17398371
A mint model b V8 shouldn't be chopped up, I agree. But I'm not going to be a fag and tell you what to do with your personal property. If all classics where just old cars that were factory condition, car shows would be boring

>>17398368
That sounds like a pain in the ass. And if you want, read up on the history of the civil war and you'll understand the politics of it.

>>17398377
It is a lot of paperwork and some fees, but it's not like they come up with random rules to let you fail. The underlying regulations are pretty simple and clear.

>>17398371
Yeah but people who modernise classic cars are still fuck heads.

Everytime I see a classic car with large modern wheels and low profile tyres I want to call the owner a fuckhead.

There is better ways to destroy a classic that are less disgraceful such as destruction derby..

Atleast cars in distruction derbies are shown more respect by their owners...

>>17398384
If the RAM in the pic is yours, I get why you think its easy. You have to keep in mind that my truck is 42 years old and getting a H-plate was a little rough

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>>17398374
Aztec Gold

>>17398383
Not factory...

Just period correct.


Why do retards think I want everycar to be factory just because I hate retards putting efi and big wheels on classic cars?

They may aswell put prius engines and plastic bumpers on them... Because it's kinda the same thing.

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My classic car with my modern car

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>>17398391
No?

This is borderline autism friend. The inability to accept that not everyone has your preferred taste, and are openly disturbed by it is a bit odd.

They're wheels and tires. They can be swapped. Old cars have shit brakes, and bigger brakes need bigger tires. Most good performance tires only come in modern sizes

>>17398392
It's not, but a co-worker has one. Getting H-plates was your free choice, and it's just as tough of a procedure for any origin of classic cars, not just imports. Domestics get judged the exact same way for H-plates.

>>17398394
Thanks.

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>>17398399
I know that feel

>>17398404
Nippo cars reeeeeeeeeeeee

>>17398404
That a clean s13.

>>17398399
I like a period correct hot rod, but I also like driving fast. A long way down the road, I want my truck to be about to tear ass down the local mountain roads, but I also want it to look and have the feel of a classic truck. This is the mindset most have.

Crown Vic front suspension and a 3 link would be my ideal, but it's a long time before I can afford that.

>>17398406
I know but I don't get why these people cant just destruction derby therir cars instead.

Its essemtially the same thing.

I hate it when you're just trying to enjoy driving your car on proper old school wheels like cragars and some fuck head with with 20 inch billet show wheels decides to ruin your day by saying hello or whatever.

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>>17398436
Your logic makes zero sense

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>>17398436
I honestly can't tell if you are serious at this point. Why would anyone be so bothered by others life decisions that don't affect you.

>>17398445
I have to see their poor cars.

It would be okay if I could avoid these people.

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>>17398444
>>17398445
I think he means that he sees cars like pic related and feels bad that they got fucked up by some ricer/boomer, maybe?

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>Nevada car it's entire life
>bought from a guy with several inches of service records, 158k miles
>Just had a high pressure power steering hose replaced and the front seats reupholstered in my 2 years of ownership
>Just looking into getting the rear a.c. unit working so I can be super baller with the fridge in the back
>Will swap to manual when the 4 speed auto breaks, but it was rebuilt @120k miles so it should last a while
Why did everything work so good for $7800

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I just fucking hate these shit cunts.


Why buy a classic car if you don't want a classic car?

Do they not realise they make non classic cars.

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>>17398452
That doesn't affect you. You are taking something personally that has nothing to do with you, and keeping it dictate your life decisions

>>17398457
I think it's deeper. Either way, who gives a shit if it's not your car? It's not like the foose went loose and overhauled your car without you knowing.

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>>17398459
>mfw I bought this for less than that
If you like it I guess thats all that counts but you paid a pretty penny for it. But if everything works that decent for an old German car.
t.jew

>>17398465
When I see a bastardized car i think "I would have treated you better", or "I bet I could make you right again"
I have a bad problem of giving cars personas and than pitying it.

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>>17398483
I love your olds.

Also I would rather see a beater turbo ls swapped Chevelle being driven hard than this "period hot rod" that literally had never been over 60 and never been over a quarter throttle. I talked to the owner, his words not mine.

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>I have an idea lets buy a classic car and make it not a classic car

>we will put big modern wheels on it like a modern car

>get rid of the old 350 chev and put in a 2jz

>take out the interior and put in the interior from a 2017 model chevy


just fuck off and buy a car that isn't a classic if you don't want a classic car you retards.

>>17398465
If people bought a punch of old picaso paintings and then painted them black and stuck a 5 dollar print over the top..

That's essentially what you are doing when you are turning old cars into modern cars.

>>17398505
It looks like a classic and has the VIN from a classic and is registered like a like a classic.

If it looks like a duck...

>>17398505
Look at you getting butt mad over this, lol. Face it man, the interiors in those things are pathetic, and I'm not trolling you with "where's muh aux cord xd" shit. They're hideous. And those heavy, nasty looking steel rims that are 14 inches big? Yeah nah good luck, a girl would laugh in your face. Don't get me started on those trash engines and carburetors. Lmao, sit the fuck down grandpa. They bought those cars and can improve them any way they wan't.>>17398505

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>>17398525
Carburetors and 14s are alright in my book, as are bench seats. Don't be a cuck and get offended by others life choices.

>>17398520
it looks nothing fucking like a classic.

The only thing about that car that is classic is the perhaps the vin.

It's like these people go "I want a classic car but I don't want anything that makes a classic car have character".

>>17398525
You do realise though that you can buy a 2017 civic, chevy, camry or whatever... if that's what you are into.

You don't have to turn a 69 camaro into one.

think about it

what makes a classic car different from a modern car?

Chrome, meaty tires, carburetor noises, tuck and roll interiors.


Why would you even buy a classic if you don't want that shit?

>>17398533
>Don't be a cuck and get offended by others life choices.
I can't believe you're seriously following up with that. Hippocrite.
>>17398540
But you're free to improve a classic car however you see fit. It's still a classic. That's all in the exterior. The interiors are throwaway garbage imo. The new SS interior is probably one of the nicest interiors ever fucking made. What I would do would be taking a Daytona and putting the interior from an ATS Cadillac in it. Elegant. Simple. Classic. The whole package. Engine would either be an RB30 or a 2JZ with a fat single turbo running nos. Could outrun anyone with that. And it would be much simpler and more reliable than stock. Air ride or bags with nice 19 inch XXRs, not too big. But that's just me. Maybe you aren't an enthusiast if you can't appreciate literally improving everything about a car.

Where to draw the line on trashed interiors when looking for an old car? I'm not afraid of putting some work into the inside but some of the old cars I've checked out I don't know where to start

>>17398598
They're all trashed lol. Thin AAs steering wheels and metal dash boards with little or no air bags. Not hanks I'll take my safety. And air bags cars handle better.

>>17398344
>Georgia flag licence plate
Be careful in the bigger towns. Antifa is burning cars now.

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>>17398602
>air bags cars handle better.

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>>17398602

I suggest buying a 59 impala and modify it in an attempt to have the safety of a 2017 impala.

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>>17398576
>>17398602
>Trying to bait this hard

Go back on Korean car general or something and leave us alone

>>17398650
In Australia people literally do shit like put 2js in American muscle cars.

Usually the young guys.

>>17398409
Does that make the whole procedure easier? Getting "H" is still overly expensive and depends too much on the personal opinion of the engineer who checks it.

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>>17398640
I live in northern Michigan, people around here dont even know what antifa is.
Thanks though

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>>17398660
I refuse to believe this, just why?

>>17398672

I don't know why.

I think this is part of the reason why I hate modernised classics so much.

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>I want a classic american car but I don't want the character of a rumbling carby v8

>>17398662
>Mick again
Rip

>>17398703
Serious question- how's a carb'd v8 sound different than an fi?

>>17398705
The rumble and back fire.

In a carby engine you get a rumble sounds when you downshift suddenly and the carburetor sent to much fuel into the motor.

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A car that comes with a 5 liter v8 with a japanese turbo motor.

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LOOK BUT DONT TOUCH

>>17398717
>driving a manuel

>>17398766
>driving with out a shift kit

>>17398770
>TFW no shift kit

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-87 GTA
was an overheating wreck with trashed interior when I bought it.
tiny ls + t56 swap

4.8 LR4, 1.8 ratio rockers and ls1 cam

>>17399267
Nice looking around for one of these

>>17398717
Fuel injected cars can pop and backfire, it just depends on how it is mapped

Is this rusted out old boomer mobile worth $10k?

https://nwga.craigslist.org/cto/6149707286.html

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>>17395690

I've got them on mine, plus the original mirror. They look cool and are semi functional, but the factory mirror is a bit better.

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>>17394503

The Polara has factory air, but it's locked up. If/when I get it on the road it will be the first thing I fix. The humidity has been terrible here for the past couple weeks.

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And, finally, I got my intermittent "starts, then won't start, then starts" ignition issue figured out. One of the wires that goes through the firewall shit the bed, so I ran a new one today and it seems to have come right out of it.

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>>17395690

No wait, I did have something else to post.

Any idea what's hiding under your matte black? Might want to take a look. I'm glad I did. I used lacquer thinner and it worked like a charm, took the rattle can off and reserved the old red and white.

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>>17400073
god I miss Maine so much

>>17400093
is that a single barrel? why is it not a 4 bbl

>>17400108
how do you live without power brakes

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>>17400119

Come home, son.

>>17400124

Pretty sure it's a two barrel, but I haven't dug into it yet. The car was given to me last week and it has frame rot. The rest of the car is in good shape, engine runs strong, brakes are up. Still looking into getting the frame fixed We'll see.

>>17400131

Well, shit. I've never had a classic with power brakes, so I don't even know what I'm missing. The manual brakes all work fine on mine because that's the first thing I fix/adjust.

>>17400124
>>17400137
It's a 2-bbl Carter BBD.

http://www.allpar.com/mopar/318.html

>>17400579

Thanks, bro.

>>17395559
Where in Texas? I feel you, it was 110 in Waco last week when I was changing a tire

>>17395254
What is it you hate to do, or least like to fix? My advice is to avoid cars that have problems that require obscure parts or skills you don't have or enjoy. Google "classic car checklist" if you don't know where to start

>>17401103
>What is it you hate to do, or least like to fix?
Good advice desu. Went to check one out today and was pretty lost whether or not to get it. I knew damn well what I'd be getting into with it but didn't know if I wanted to or not. Ended up turning it down

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I've been reading up about the slant six, and I've been wondering, would a header-style tubular intake manifold not be advantageous in the 6cyl configuration? Something like pic related. Just wondering why I haven't seen it before. I was planning on getting used headers and upgrading to the 2bbl Carter carb, maybe a new dist and some head work

>>17401103
>tfw forgot to namefag
Does anyone care tho

>>17401146
who

>>17401163
me, I thought I'd start using this name but I keep forgetting

>>17401173
what the fucks a mopart

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>>17401181
Mopar
Mo-parts
Parts

This seems to answer my questions about intake manifold efficiency
https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/hcc/2013/01/Manifold-Destiny/3720831.html

>>17401181
It's a pun brah
Sorry, next time I'll stick to xx卐卐WILD__HOG卐卐xx

>>17401219
>Sorry, next time I'll stick to xx卐卐WILD__HOG卐卐xx

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>>17401259
perfect

>>17401136
You sound like a dumbass. Please never touch a car ever again

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>>17401297
Give him a chance at least he is trying.

>>17401136
Post the ad mate i'm curious, I would still HIGHLY suggest not buying a bird later than 79 but in the end its you cash.

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>>17401327
>tfw gf's dream car is an '88 firebird
she says she likes the pop-ups

>>17400579
fuck carters. and fuck the AFB and the edelbrock clone. get a holley 4bbl

>>17401347
Sell the carter to me, I need it for my super six

>>17401327
There's no ad but it was pretty trashed lol. Like 90% of the interior needed to be replaced, spliced wires all over, hack job of a 350 swap that was leaking from the rear seal. Surprisingly no rust though. I'm really into the look of the third gens so that's what I'm mostly going for

>>17401347
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

Holleys are complex, leak-prone garbage piles.
Seriously, who thought vertical sealing surfaces and a floating valve body was a good idea?

You need to tinker with them every month to keep it running right.

Carters just work. They're fucking magic like that.

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>>17401355
gross.
there are only 3 acceptable carbs for a straight 6
Del orto side draft
weber DCOE
Mikuni side drafts

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>>17401343
>>17401364
The best third gen is probably a 1989 Pontiac Firebird Special edition because it came with a Buick 3.8L V6 turbocharged from a grand national. But the regular trans am were good too. Just dont get t-tops because the new plastic tops warp badly, And switch out the intake because they put a really restrictive one on all the third gen v8's.

82 was probably trans ams worst year dont pay over 1k for one.

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>>17401389
carter a shit. keep your gas toliet.

>>17401407
i would say the best was the firehark 3rd gen. but those are just as rare as the turbos

>>17401407
I'm looking at 87-89 ones with the 350. Pretty narrow search but they're out there

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>>17401364

If you have 30 minutes to spare and can stand the sound of pure unadulterated autism I made a video for one of my education classes about trans ams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWyV1eJcQC8&t=882s

>>17401418
What am I looking at here? That looks neat

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>>17401441
the file name for gods sake

>>17401396
>3 carb setup in a daily driven truck
Carter BBD came stock on the super six, it's a no-headache upgrade from the 1bbl, best budget option for mileage+power. I can always upgrade to a Holley 390

http://www.slantsix.org/articles/supersix/article.htm

>>17401454
No one reads file names now a days, that's just weird

>>17401438
nice feet

>>17400114
It'll be blue and red. One of the POs restored the cab to red, but left the front clip and bed blue. Other PO painted everything black. Even if I remove the black it'll still be weird...

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>>17401459
it also came on the CJ7 and it was a nightmare pos with clogging idle vents on it.
not an upgrade.
people usually throw them in the trash and throw on a weber.

>Weber time tested carburetors can deliver more horsepower, fuel economy and dependability than stock units. Experience noticeable gains in torque and better acceleration. Most kits will deliver up to 18% increase in hp over factory carburetors while increasing fuel economy by 10-20%.

Replaces Carter BBD 2 barrrel carb. Designed for motors that have been worked over in the way of cam/crank/header modifications. May need to buy a fuel regulator for optimal performance.

it does not matter it came with it. it was junk. you need to learn carbs.

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>>17401471
y-you too

>>17401493
>I need to learn carbs
>therefore I should buy carbs that require constant fiddling
The webers are obviously better but are they really more practical for my application? Whether the carter is shit or not it IS an upgrade from the even shitter 1bbl

Since you are an expert is the Holley 390 not a pretty decent option for these motors?

>>17401525
what intake manifold are you using? it plays a part too. are you just cutting open the stock one so you can fit a 2bbl?
you know, if you can find the holley for a decent price, say less than $150 which is very high to me, that seems not bad. you will hate life with the pos bbd.

>>17401539
That's why I say it matters that it came stock, the bbd manifold and carb can be had together for ~$200, or less at a salvage yard

Haven't looked for a 390 but I heard it goes well with an offenhauser intake

>>17401554
you know its your money. go on and get the carter and learn the hard way.
i think i would pair the carter intake with the holley, if memory serves the offy intake gives priority to the center runners, letting them go rich.

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>>17401483

Ah, lame. I hated my truck in flat black, glad there was something decent underneath so I didn't have to get it painted right off.

>>17401609
looks pretty nice to me

>>17401597
Lol, I'm just saying, if I'm going to use the same intake anyway... The holley starts at about 200 on ebay, I'll wait for something to show up on CL

>>17401654

Could be worse, I suppose. I much prefer the two-tone red/white. Can't wait for my back to heal up so I can finish taking it off.

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>>17401666

>dem trips

HAIL SATAN

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>>17401654
you might tell im a weber guy, them being the most simple of carbs. but sadly its kind of a thing where it makes me feel like a carb nerd

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>>17401671
>I drove 12 fucking hours for this heap.jpg

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>>17401690

25 hours on the road, plus 24 hours prior being awake and a copilot with no license will get to you. Right about Connecticut, actually, I lost my fucking mind and went into autopilot until I hit Portland. You ever drive somewhere and reach your destination only to not remember the ride? That was Connecticut to Portland. It's a wonder I'm even alive. Same thing happened when I got the Dart. Driving through NYC rush hour traffic with a vehicle on a trailer while sleep deprived isn't wise.

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>>17401765
Mate, I went to UNE for a year, I fucking hate Portland with a passion now and just transferred to Tennessee.
Wish I knew some fellow /o/tist were in the area, Good luck with the shit weather.

>>17401802

Portland is the only thing in Maine worse than Lewiston. And I've been to Biddeford and Sanford. They're all terrible. Luckily for me, I still have to drive 3 hours up 95 to get home.

>>17401820
My primary campus was in Biddeford but I had to drive to portland for a class every two days. Place was fucking sketchy and I had never had to use toll roads before so I was pissed that I had to pay to drive.

>>17401842

I went to SMCC for a year and between doing live-in firefighting, working part time at a quick lube for gas and food money, and commuting to Wells for my EMT class I was broke and tired as fuck. When I got the job offer in Lincoln I took it and never looked back. That whole part of the state should be given back to Mass and walled off from the rest of Maine.

>>17401686
Any books you recommend? I don't mind fiddling if I actually know what I'm doing and I have a 240z that might get Webers someday

>>17401842
I miss Oregon desu.

>>17401894

Portland, Maine.

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>>17401911
Oh. Kek.

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>>17401894
So close

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>>17401935
Like just a measly 3000 miles off

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>>17401960

You tried.

>>17401493
Out of curiosity, what carbs can mount easily on the /6 manifold meant for a Carter BBD/Holley2280?

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>>17390144
What day were you there? I got to go for free on Sunday

>>17402185
Fuck phone posting

>>17398368
It honestly depends where in the US. I live in Virginia for example and it isn't very controversial at all, a school nearby uses the flag as it's mascot.

>>17402185
I was there Saturday. You going for July?

>>17398505
I actually agree with this guy, holy shit.

Eh, I get the draw. Classic style with modern convenience. Look at that 65 Impala Chip Foose did, I hate his rims, but the car looks amazing and the interior (modern Camaro interior I think) actually looks really good in it.

Having said that, if I was going to spend big money on a classic, it would be pure.

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>>17402493
I enjoy all walks of classics, pretty much the only thing I don't like is korean cars

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Been doing so more work on my car, got the dash painted and I am currently working on some other cosmetics, since I am dead broke after buying her.

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>>17403117
Nice paint. I know if I get the truck painted, I'm going to have to totally redo the interior

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>>17390144

>>17403117

Did you rattle can that? Looks damn decent! Are you looking for a replacement steering wheel or are you going to repair that one? JB Weld and some patience would do it wonders.

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>patch panel arrived yesterday
>carpet arrives tomorrow
>diff rebuild in the next two weeks
>the MJ is finally gonna be roadworthy
I'VE BEEN WAITING ALMOST A YEAR FOR THIS

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Here's my 1502. 52k original kilometers, no rust.

I'm thinking of selling it for an equally mint squarebody C10. Seems like an absolutely awful choice, but I don't really feel at home in the BMW. I don't really enjoy slinging it around corners as much as I thought.

Finally got a new temp sender for the International today, installed it, it works!

But the gas gauge quit!

Hooray, old cars!

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>>17404393
That we did! Sanded and masked everything then wiped it down before hand with denatured alcohol. Worked wonders. As for the steering wheel I am more then likely going to get some leather wrap for it, since money is tight as hell.

Heres another pic of the trunk after the same deal.

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Generous application of elbow grease to the Polara makes the paint shiney.

>>17406438
Well keep applying it>>17406438

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>>17406455

I'm making the wife do it, so I'll go crack the whip.

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Did some more work
>>17406474
nice car, was thinking about getting a polara when I couldn't find any falcons in my price range.

>>17406474
Roasties btfo

>>17400137
power brakes in classics vary, but for the most part they're alot firmer than modern boosted brakes.

The firmest brake pedal I've ever experienced was from my 1968 power brakes galaxie.

Funny how cars have completely switched from one finger power steering and a firm brake pedal to basically unassisted steering feel and squishy as fuck brakes

>>17406482

Price range? This bad Larry was FREE. Best deal I've ever made.


>>17406485

Roastie?

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>>17406514
Had 1000 dollars total for my first car. Spent that and another 300 for U-Hual trailer and truck to just bring her home. Been worth every penny since working on her with my dad.

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>>17406554

Had $1000 in my Dart, and $200ish in tolls and trailer. Tell the fuckers you'll have it back in a day and the uhaul trailer is only $50.

>>17406513
Ehhh, I once drove a relative's 67 Mustang with power steering, it gave *no* feedback...I've gotten accustomed to manual steering anyway, none of the borrowed CRX's I'd spent years driving had power assist. (From 43mpg in those, to 15mpg is the Valiant, heh....much more fun though)

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>>17406514
A "roastie" is a vagina with beef flaps.

/r9k/ invented and latched on to the term a while back.

I'm surprised you haven't heard that term before you FUCKING NORMIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>17406585
they where being pricks with us, they even try to charge us more because apparently we said we would bring it back before 9 the next morning, which was BS because we said we would bring it back by 5 the next afternoon. Oh and 2000 ford ranger wasn't good enough for them, which was some horse shit.
>>17406609
Don't choke on your own saliva.

>>17406630

Our local Uhaul guy is bro tier. They gave no fucks about anything as long as I brought the trailer back. I used my brother-in-law's trailer for the Polara because it was free, but I'd have no issue renting from Uhaul again.

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Hand painted these a couple of days ago, the on the right was before I painted the black back in for the falcon logo.
>>17406639
Lucky

>>17406650

Looks good, bro. I love Falcons. Wish my wife did, because I think she'd have much more fun driving a smaller car.

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>>17406650
And yes I know the paint is not the right kind, I just needed something for the next couple of months to get her going, I did seal them up with 3 layers of mat varnish so that should hold long enough for me to get some money to do them right.

Same goes for the black on this trim as well.

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No judgement here, bro. You're doing what you gotta do. Better than letting it sit and rot like a lot of guys do.

I'm sitting here drinking beer with a bum back while my wife does all the hard work.

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>>17406658
They are fun cars, had my eye on them since middle school because they had that look, but at the same time where small and just good enough gas that I could afford to DD one. Also doesn't help that this one old man I always saw since middle school has 65 2 door in near mint condition that he daily drives. Just was a nice lookin car.

>>17406676

I've got a buddy with a Falcon Sprint convertible and it's just sitting on flat tires on his barn. It kills me every time I see it.

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>>17406695
Bring it home, it deserves better. No classic deserves to rot...(expect for pintos maybe...)

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>mfw put it in gear and she moves under her own fucking power after a motor swap
we m-made it

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>>17406720

I don't think he'd sell it. I offered to help him get it back on the road but he's just not motivated enough.

Polara came out nice. I'm limping it over to the garage tomorrow to get the frame fixed. Good thing I just got that credit card with no interest for 18 months.

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Repainted the floor panels after rust removal, they don't even have a rug yet and look 10 times better.

>>17406730
Whats your plan with the Polara, fix and sell or keep?

>>17406730
Very nice~

(On an unrelated note, anyone know of a discord or something for this sort of thing, or do you all talk of it only on here and forums?)

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>>17406743

The wife has fallen right in love with it, so it probably isn't going anywhere soon. I figure I'll drop a couple grand getting it on the road and tuned up and then drive the wheels off it. It's worth it if it makes her happy.

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>>17406752
From my lurking, just here. Could be wrong, but that what I gathered after years of lurking.

>>17406757
Good to hear it has loving home.

>>17406773
Ahh, Alright. Just yet another interest that zero of my IM contacts are also into...

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>>17406801
I understand that feel. Of all 7 of my friends only one other kind of sees classics cars as cool and interesting. The rest only see cars for what they have become, boring oval shaped things with 4 wheels a engine and a stereo.

>>17406816
I see. Not the first time I've had that happen, eheh...

I am wondering if maybe I should swap a 318 in place of that /6 ...would have preferred that in the car anyway, but when it's tough to find a 4-door 70-72 Valiant in *any* condition, one can't be choosy! Although, if I end up getting that 67 Polara in a few days, I'll prob just leave the /6 and just give it a less anemic carb.

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>tfw I washed the car up all nice and got caught in a storm shortly after

I don't know why I try anymore.

>>17406885
>Decide to wash car
>Wash it real good
>Let it dry
>Go home
>Go outside
>Realize that the paint is so fucked that it literally makes no difference
Iktf

>>17406916
Fuck, my Valiant is the same way...chrome stripes on the side are gone but it's obvious they used to be there...hood badly painted black, even painted over the "Plymouth"...it's like the only difference washing makes, is with mud and pollen.

>>17406928
Pretty much. I really want it painted, but I know that once I get going with everything else I'll forget about paint.

How much is a decent paint job anyway?

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>>17406916
lol my Volvo was painted by the previous owners, pretty sure they did it in their garage. Single stage, orange peeled to all hell. I only need to wash it occasionally since there's no clear coat and you can't really tell when it's dirty. I went on a trip and left it parked by a few trees, so now I have to clean off all the fucking sap.

>>17406940
I've not yet looked for a quote on that, but probably something like "$400 for shit, $4,000 for excellent"

>>17406940
You could do the "$50 dollar rustoleum paint job"
I will probably end of doing this in the future my self.

Or if your maaco people are not shit heads you could try them.

>>17406955
forgot link,

http://www.rickwrench.com/index79master.htm?http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html

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Couple things

Can anyone identify what car these taillights come from for me?

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>>17406964
And is this or is this not the Eliminator spoiler from the 1967 Mercury Cougar Eliminator package?

>>17406964
Looks like a 69 gt500. Something around there.
>>17406963
>>17406955
I've seen those, they come out alright sometimes. I just don't have the time or space to do something like that. Honestly I'd rather pay a guy I know desu.
>>17406951
Shit sucks

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>>17406885
>>17406916
>>17406928
>>17406940

The paint on the Impala was a wicked shitty aftermarket job. It kind of looked neat, but I don't miss it. Never looked clean.

>>17406970
They key from what I can tell is wet sanding every layer of paint before adding another layer of paint. Which is makes sense to get rid of orange peel and other imperfections. But as someone who works as a painter, I can vouch for this shit taking time, like 2 weeks of my spare time to get it right.

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>>17406970
I should mention, this is a screenshot from The Crew, the videogame, and that actually is a 1967 Shelby GT500 but many of the cars in the game have these crazy made up aftermarket parts that don't exist.

I'd be compelled to believe the same goes for these taillights but the spoiler (that could possibly be from a Mercury cougar Eliminator >>17406968
) has me wondering. And Shelby taillights can actually be switched out for '67 Cougar taillights, they're the exact same shape.

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Replaced the starter today, no more getting stuck on hot days anymore.

>>17407063
That looks like a Ford starter. I've replaced a gorillion of those on mine.

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>>17407070
Oh shit, i forgot my name..

Yeah, the old one was shitting out on me when the weather was hot (after driving it for a bit), it just didn't want to turn the 'ole 351 over... So I upgraded.

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>>17407091
>>17407070
high torque mini starters are the only way to go.

>>17407091
>>17407128
Biggest problem I have with starting during summer is all the heat in the engine bay. The starter fires fine, but I don't think the carb likes how hot the engine bay gets.

Having the interested manifold, and carb, basically sitting on top of the exhaust manifold can't help.

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>>17407142
I never had any problems starting my 250, even in the hot ass tennessean summers. but if you're having problems then I would suggest either buying a phenolic carb spacer or making one yourself out of 3/4" plywood.

Either works, both are good insulators which will keep your carb cooler.

>>17407142
Ah, so the starter doesn't labor or anything to get the motor turned over... Mine would go "Whuff Whuff Whuff Whuff ........... wuff ............. wuff ................." and just stop turning.

It might be what >>17407153 is suggesting, and the gas could be boiling in the fuel bowl. an isolating spacer would fix that.

>>17407215
Insulating spacer

>>17407153
>>17407215
Insulating spacer seems like a good idea

>>17407142
Without a spacer the fuel in the carb boils off making it difficult to start. Just add in an insulated spacer, no aluminum.

>>17407296
Wood or plastic seems pretty good

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>>17406757
>>17406955
My fiance is the reason I bought my Bronco in the first place, she loves it.

Speaking of paint, my co-workers father is a 20 year professional paint and body man, does excellent work He's giving me a killer deal on a paint job for my Bronco, $500 labor plus material cost so I can't really pass it up.

Only catch is I have to strip the bed liner off. I got the most toxic shit I could find at Lowe's, and makes the bed liner easier to come off but not quite what I was hoping.

What do you guys think about brake fluid? I can use the waste brake fluid from work. I'm thinking about taking all the lights and grille off and just soaking a panel at a time in brake fluid for a few hours and then scraping it off. That stuff typically makes paint just fall off, so it might work for the bed liner.

>>17407342

That is a hell of a deal. I took my flat black off the International with straight lacquer thinner and "bug remover" sponges from Wal Mart, but admittedly. that's not the same as bed liner. Let me know if the brake fluid works better.

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>>17407342
>tfw when no female friends I know who are in to cars

>>17407408

It's okay, in the end, you can always spend all your money on your car instead of what you have left after spending it on your gf/wife.

Luckily for me, I found a wife that's a wicked enabler. I own a 180x100 lot and have 5 vehicles on it.

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>>17407463
The spiral dissent into loneliness continues.

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To be honest I get the feeling once I get into college in the next 2 months or so I should be able to acquire some ore friends who are into cars. Possibly a female god willing.

>>17407408
>only female I know who's more into cars than me is fucking my close friend as a side bitch
wew

>>17407514
Jesus

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0qQtbmB4Vc

i did a walk around ok.

>>17407562
If your turn signals work your one step above my falcon at the moment.

>>17407562
Your autism amazes me

>>17407587

I've got turn signals in the Polara, but no headlights or dash lights. Apparently it's a common issue, thanks to the fucking rare-as-hens-teeth headlight switch. I'll have to tear it out and see if I can rebuild it. I ain't paying $200 for one.

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>>17407627
It literally took me 3 years to find a NOS one way wiper switch for my Ford.

Welcome to the jungle, we've got fun and games.

>>17407627
told you nigga.
You can try spinning it around really fast and it might clean up the connection a bit.

>>17407627
found this hope it helps
https://www.ebay.com/i/282494105625?chn=ps&dispItem=1

>>17407650

IT DOESN'T SPIN IT'S A FUCKING SUPER DIFFERENT THREE-WAY TOGGLE THE LIKES OF WHICH I'VE NEVER SEEN. WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING, DODGE?

>>17407667

I had seen that, I was thinking of offering $50 and seeing if it stuck, but god damn, I've never paid more than $13 for a damn headlight switch.

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Anyone know where to find rear view mirror glass for 1964 falcon, and and side mirror glass to. Been thinking about buying all new mirrors, but I rather get new glass since the mirrors stands themselves are good.

>>17407698
>IT DOESN'T SPIN IT'S A FUCKING SUPER DIFFERENT THREE-WAY TOGGLE THE LIKES OF WHICH I'VE NEVER SEEN. WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING, DODGE?
then just actuate it really fast and see if you get anywhere. Those old switches get dry and crusty.

>>17407751

In my defense, I did try that. To no avail. I'll be pulling the switch out to see if I can clean the contacts and refurb it myself.

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>>17398368
>I guess its a different thing if youre living in the US, huh?

In the US it's a way for Americans to recognize our morons.

>>17394503
Dude fucking same. I need to replace the entire system. $500 or so. I'm honestly hoping I can take apart the compressor and rebuild it myself rather than spending $200 on a new one. Reman one. Whatever.