What is the best hatch you can get right now, and why is

>>17375088

>...why is it the Mazda 3.

It isn't.

Golf

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Nemesis of busriders

>>17375122
What are you paying the extra 6k for?

>>17375128
sounds like my kind of car

>>17375088
Civic hatch as well.

>>17375135
styling, comfort, interior quality

>>17375150
Valid. But why has it gone from a family looking car to a teenage dream? They look pretty gross now

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>>17375162
what?

>>17375162
VWs have styling?

>>17375162
>golf
>styling

Pick one

>>17375162
He was asking what the golf has, not what it lacks.

>>17375183
>a fucking tablet

>>17375197
>>17375202
underage

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>>17375088
Why do you ask a question if you already have your own answer?

>>17375293
>t. triggered vagfag

>>17375122
Older golf's vs older mazdas, sure, but the Mazda will last longer than new German shit

>>17375293
I'll ask just once... which one of these >>17375183 would a grown-up more likely choose to drive

>>17375328
right one of course

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>>17375353

>>17375353
>Retard acts like a retard
Yeah, and water is wet, it's not surprising

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>>17375369
>>17375379
>waah different opinion

kys

>>17375088
Mazda 3 WAS great and had winning designs. Now they look shit even compared to some Toyotas or koreanboxes, let alone Gods best ever created all around hot hatch Golf. So, no, its not good anymore. Mazda3 ended up on first gen. Now its just no more than any other manufacturer. Better buy a Focus for lower price if we talkin about daily usage

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nowhere near enough space in the boot IMHO

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>>17375088
> 0-60 in 8-9 seconds

>>17375811
>benchracing faggot

A few friends have Mazda 3's. They are a bit older model, but are still pretty nice.
I have a Focus now, but would consider a Mazda for next vehicle.

>>17375823
>benchracing
>literally moving at bench-like speeds

>>17375839
what do you like/dislike about the Ford Tough® Focus™?

>>17375948
It feels like it drives pretty nicely. Goes exactly where I want it to, wheel feedback feels pretty good. Cabin noise very minimal.
Despite complaints about the DCT, it really has only given me grief from stop; usually just giving it more gas / being more deliberate with throttle.
Though its just an SE, I can punch it and still feel it doing something. Though I always long for an ST.
Friends riding in it have never complained about the ride (or room) in it either, so that's a plus.

I guess my only disclaimer is that I haven't driven a whole lot of cars before (especially modern ones). This one still feels kinda fun to drive around despite its low power, and I'm sure that opinion would change should I drive something more powerful.

>>17375308

This is what someone who isn't even old enough to drive says.

>>17375088

>in the market for a hatchback
>not buying a Golf GTI

why

>>17376063
see
>>17375135
>>17375183

>>17376086
So, memes?

>>17376103
>needlessly more expensive
>unprofessional look
These aren't memes. They're reality busrider

>>17375150
WRONG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTURtQvSvHI

>>17376141
>buying a hot hatch to look professional
Wtf senpai

>>17376290
doug demuro is a jew and a shill that frequents reddit

the fuck was your point

>>17375183
Having to spend $27k on a GTI so you don't get stuck with plaid cloth seats is one of the biggest turn-offs for me.
If they would make leather seats an option on the lower trims, I would buy a GTI in a heartbeat.

Every owns these in Canada, I don't know why nobody gets them in the US. In my course of 13 people, 3 of them own one of these (1 auto sedan, 1 manual sedan, 1 manual 2.5L hatch). The 2L feels super anemic (I drive an ST mind you) but I like the interior.

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>>17375135

>>17375162
>$6k more for a car that's gonna need $6k in repairs as soon as the warranty is up

>>17377755
see
>>17377748

>>17377764
It's still gonna need the $6k in repairs while the Mazda isn't.

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>>17377780
doubtful.

>>17377785
Just a small note on this: JD Power includes things like "the voice command system doesn't always recognize what I say" and "the blu-tooth won't sync to my phone sometimes" as part of their dependability rating.

Look at the drivetrain ratings only.

>>17377817
Plus if we're talking cost of maintenance, you have to take into account cost of parts in addition to reliability, and I have a feeling Volkswagen is a bit worse off in that regard

>>17375088
my sister has one and fuck me, no matter what I adjust, I just cant see shit out of it. spoiled by big windowed shitboxes I guess. Only car ive driven where I actually felt I NEEDED the reversing camera

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>>17375088
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best hatchback is is the Civic hatch sport. lighter, MORE power, BETTER shifter, BETTER looks (subjective but it really does look good), holds value better, is a LIFTBACK (tailgates are for women, all good cars were liftbacks).

Ford Focus ST

>>17378662
Looks shit on the rear end. Plus overdesigned. Coupe looks shit, hatch looks shit. Interior looks like its been made by chinese ebay sellers. Too childish and too complex car.

>>17378662
New civic is ugly, slow and sounds like a cheap shitbox and there is literally no reason to buy it