>/o/ should I pull the trigger? >I'm 33 yo and I

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>>17311397
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPJ64sTa7KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV9rJwEOCus

>some teenager got this assblasted by the c-class thread
stop shitposting and go get a job, autismo

>>17311397
>61k
I can think of five cars off the top of my head that I'd rather buy with that money.

>>17311471
name them!

>>17311397
Wait two years and that car will be sub $30k. I do not understand people who buy MB at high prices

>>17311416
>Play both embedded videos at once
>Double Scotty Kilmer
>Double anti-Mercedes
This is perfect

I would never pay 61k for a car that will depreciate the way that one will.

That car just does not say 60k to me, I don't see it as worth it at all. If you keep it 3 years it will literally be worth 20something

Aslo I would never own a high end Mercedes out of warranty and the 3 years is up on that thing.

Every little bullshit part on those cars breaks and costs $1000, I am talking 1000bucks for a window motor or seat adjustment motor, it's ridiculous and that shit always breaks as the car gets out of warranty

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>>17311679
Never own a higher end Merc or BMW out of warranty, never.

buy it new and sell it when the factory won't fix it for free anymore or you are basically a poorfag trying to have something he cant afford

>>17311494
30 Miatas
30 Miatas
30 Miatas
30 Miatas
30 Miatas

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>>17311416
Lmao!!

>>17311494
>name them!

Chevy SS
911 porshe
used Tesla
BMW M5
05 GTO with a blower and rebuilt engine

>>17311686
>buy it new and sell it when the factory won't fix it for free anymore or you are basically a poorfag trying to have something he cant afford
this

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>>17311686
>can't afford to maintain an expensive car
>calls others poorfags

>>17311686
>>17311703
What about if you're highly mechanically trained?

>>17311715
Then you would not have to ask us questions and would know you can fix the stuff yourself

however as the video at the top of the thread says a shock is fucking $1100, your labor does not make that any cheaper

>>17311397
what model is that?

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>>17311712
>>can't afford to maintain an expensive car
>>calls others poorfags

You are missing the point, the point is you are going to lose 30k over 3 years owning the car, better buy it for 80-90 and sell it for 50-60 with the factory doing all the repair work and getting to own a new car than to buy it for 60 and sell it for 30 while having weird computer and hardware problems that cost you another 5k and headaches of figuring out the problems on your used car

you lose more money buying it used and don't get to drive a new car

If you're gonna spend 61k on a 2014 s class(almost 4 model years old). You might as well lease a new one. You get to enjoy a brand new s class for 3-5 years. That's all you will really care about driving, and if you decide to keep it(no problems, well maintained), you can buy it out. Don't buy a 61k car if your credit isn't 750. I think it costs like 60k to lease an s class for 3-5 years. You wouldn't want to start out with a used s class if you have 61k to spend.

>>17311700
>used Tesla
>Tesla
nigga, why spend 60k in old tech?

>>17311772
Also, people who are against leasing are poorfags that don't intend to expensive luxury cars.

>>17311785
>nigga, why spend 60k in old tech?
dunno ask OP

I'll never understand going to a lot to buy a luxury car. I make a decent living and could lease probably a 50-60k usd car, not in the upper levels but not poor either.

But to me it's just like, anyone with money could have my luxury car. Whereas driving a restored supra or Cressida, no, just having money won't get you that car, you know? Gotta have at the very least some mechanical skill. Well, that or a really good shop at your beck and call

>>17311804
But Mercedes feels more like a 60k car, a refined luxury car and its very well built.

>>17311772
To lease for 3 years will cost him $51,000 (7k due at signing $1250 per month for 36 months) and he will get to put 36,000 miles on it.

If he buys this thing for 61k and puts 36,000 miles on it it will have 48,000 on it and be 7-8 years old when he is done and worth about 15k costing him $46,000 in depreciation if nothing breaks. Surely 5 to 10 grand worth of shit will break though and thus it will cost him more to buy this thing used

>>17311754
You are missing the point thinking I wasn't just shitposting. However your logic is retarded because you assume cars depreciate in a linear fashion when they don't. They lose half the price in first few years and then slowly slide further. The "weird computer problems" also don't come up if you buy a well maintained and regularly serviced car which is usually the case with S class.

>>17311816
>But Mercedes feels more like a 60k car,
Than a Tesla?

disagree

>S550
>not S65 AMG

poorfag

>>17311834
>They lose half the price in first few years and then slowly slide further.

Not with high end luxury cars. With high end luxury cars they lose about 30% of their value while under warranty the DROP THE FUCK OFF in the first year or two the warranty is over to the tune of 60% or more of the original value

the warranty is a huge part of the value of a luxury car, far more than in an accord or something

you are incorrect

t. live in Boca Raton and see this shit erry day

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>>17311812
>being an attention craving snowflake is more important to me than being comfy and safe

>>17311862
Luxury cars are all about snowflake status, nobody looks at the 60k usd lexus and says "well it IS the safest car out there..."

If you're using safety then 20k is a reasonable price point

>>17311700
Bretty gud taste

>>17311861
Well, maybe it's different in Clapistan. Here in Germany they pretty much follow the normal depreciation pattern with 90% of the time first ownership being by a firm, ie having perfect service history.

>>17311834
>The "weird computer problems" also don't come up if you buy a well maintained and regularly serviced car which is usually the case with S class.

because servicing stops computer moduals from breaking

you just have to change the RAM fluid

>>17311889

It's different where the $100,000 dollar car is a rare import than it's origin country, yes

>>17311871
>Luxury cars are all about snowflake status
They're not, though, at least not the brands we're talking about. Every low-middle class store manager can afford a MB/BMW/Audi nowadays. They're commonplace and hardly stand out. Hell where I live even Porsches a pretty routine. RR/Bentley/exotics is where it's at.

>>17311900
>because normal usage patterns break the computer over time
See I can be a contrarian retard too?

>>17311916
The reinforces my point though. Anyone with a 2 year degree and salary job can drive those cars. But you need creativity and mechanical skill to keep something really "cool" on the road. As for comfort, you can just get a bucket seat.

I'm just not the type for pleather interiors so my opinion isn't likely to change. Maybe when I'm 60

>>17311934
>>because normal usage patterns break the computer over time
>See I can be a contrarian retard too?

they do,

computer moduals break and are expensive to fix, "normal usage" means temperature changes and vibration not found in the home

if you don't think they break why does everyone on every merc and bmw forum bitch about them breaking non stop?

>>17311942
>The reinforces my point though. Anyone with a 2 year degree and salary job can drive those cars.

Few people can really "afford" a $100,000 car that depreciates $70,000 in the few years they own it, even most people that have them can't really prudently afford that kind of waste

>>17311830
Yeah, and also it's a used s class. A new one would be far silkier, cleaner, shinier lol

>>17311950
>why does everyone on every merc and bmw forum bitch about them breaking
I have no idea, but I've owned a variety of BMWs and Audis both used and new and not once did I have a problem with computers. FYI modern car SoCs are well insulated both mechanically and thermally. Save for software bugs there's not much that can break.

>>17311954
Some people who own their own LLC businesses love buying top of the line brand/almost new Mercedes and make it a "biz car" because the depreciation is just absolutely ludicrous and they claim it against their tax liability. Not a bad move really

>>17311942
This reinforces my point though. You care more about being special than you care about trivial comfort and safety. If you think Supra with a bucket provides the same level of comfiness as modern Mercedes with climatized seats and air suspension, then there's not much to talk about really.

>>17312010
In this particular case I can see your point

>>17311988
Have you owned high end Mercedes of recent vintage?

>>17312012
But.. What happens when different people like different things??? :0

>>17312043
Some autists like me cyber bully them to death.

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>>17311842
I dont get it. How can you disagree? Teslas cant even compete with a Mercedes C-class, how can you compare it with a S class?

>>17311842
That's because you obviously haven't driven either.

>>17311397
Doesn't matter if it's an engineering marvel or not, you're a stupid asshole if you think you can afford to keep it running after the warranty runs out.

>>17312086
I've driven both extensively. You have not.

>>17312126
Wew. Solid rebuke there, my lad. Personal preferences is one thing, but Tesla's interior objectively doesn't stand up even to much cheaper cars. There's literally no comparison to S class. If you just want to autistically fap to your favorite ""techie"" vehicle you might want to try plebbit.

>>17312196
>gets told
>resorts to stringing 10 regurgitated insults together
Haha you don't agree with me? You are objectively literally a reddit cuck autistic virgin lad desu senpai.

I'll stick with personal experience with cars I've owned and driven extensively, S Class and Model S included, you can continue to concern yourself with $2500 shitboxes while fantasizing about things you will never touch much less own.

>>17311397
You are triggering me, why would you buy a comfy machine before you need to.
I will never understand.
I hope you have to pretend you are "high class" or some shit.

>>17311397
CLS 63 AMG

>>17312219
>hurr durr your dumb and stupid and I win
Another solid argument. God I wish the summer was over already.

>>17311471
AE86
AW11
Starion
FD3S
Bugeye STI

>>17311397
lol.
>buying a used S Class
I bet you work as a financial advisor, too.

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>>17311679
Wrong. Mercs are cheap as fuck to own as far as luxury cars go, simply because they manufacture in such high volume. Just don't get work done at a dealership.

A window motor on a current model S-Class is about $187 and labor should be about 1-2 hours. It's simple enough to replace yourself if you have basic tools, or you could have an independent shop do it for about 1-2 labor hours.

https://www.oemercedesbenzparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-window-motor-2229060501?origin=pla&gclid=CIfpkuLkoNQCFR22wAod4kcF1w

Seat motors are about $170 btw.

>>17312611
>SEAT motors in Mercedes
Absolutely based.

>>17312617
SEAT and Mercedes-Benz both use the same motors in their power seats. They're just off the shelf Bosch units. Mercedes seats just have more of them per seat
.

>>17312611

Nigga, this is /o/. These faggots wouldn't know luxury if it was up their ass.

>>17311686
lol poor wimpy fag.

I have a 1999 e class and 2000 s class.
One has 250k+ miles the other over 160k. Both are fine and I can work on them using YouTube tutorials.

Idiot

>>17311397
You are literally throwing away 62k the way these depreciate. It's your money but there are better choices. I had a 7 series with 20k on it and it was worthless by 80k.

>>17311861
If you seriously think that, please explain to me how is a '00 vw golf mk4 and a nissan primera/toyota yaris have the same selling price as a '00 bmw 740i in any condition?

>>17313434
:^)

https://www.kbb.com/bmw/7-series/2000/740i-sedan-4d/?vehicleid=5422&intent=trade-in-sell&mileage=179562&pricetype=private-party&options=6304833|true&condition=fair

https://www.kbb.com/volkswagen/gti/2000/glx-hatchback-2d/?vehicleid=7139&intent=trade-in-sell&mileage=179562&pricetype=private-party&options=4477089|true|6309949|true&condition=very-good

>>17313601
>>17313434

BTFO
T
F
O

fucking jews
/o/ is the biggest jew board on 4 chan
Get gassed faggots

>>17313218
What engine on the W220? I've been toying with the idea to get a super cheap ($3500, 110k miles) S500 from 2000 with the SRS light lit up. I figure that's just a wiring problem though and otherwise there seems to be little wrong with it. Airmatic is the only thing that could go disastrously wrong if the drivetrain is fine I think.

I really really want all those lovely toys.

>>17313609
Buy it, old luxury cars with electrical problems are always a bargain

you should buy two

>>17313218
'90 E class here.

Confirmed, these cars are very easy to work on. They are very well thought out for how many systems there are to fix. There is a difference by miles between working on our Ford or Dodge and working on my old Benz.

>>17313601
www.auto24.ee/used/2009274
http://www.auto24.ee/used/2544988
not bad.

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>>17311416
This triggered my autism
I mean its not like newer mercs are not money pit and are the most reliable machines but he complains about some retarded shit
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPJ64sTa7KI
>complains about error codes
lets say a bulb burns out or you run out of fuel
you get an error code and it stays there forever until its deleted
>complains about prices
true
>complains about brake rotors have a ridge on the edge
No that doesnt make an annoying sound my dad had same ridge and so do I and he wore his brake disk to the ventilated slots and only then did it start making noise (duh)
>complains about labor costs from a certified dealer
true
>complains about a frameless door having a function to counter one of the drawbacks of frameless doors
>compares it to a framed door
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV9rJwEOCus
>complains about maintenance cost
true
>complains about spark plugs
ye I guess you can complain about that
>complains about error codes
again mercedes have this retarded thing where you get an error code for everything
I mean he even shows that there is an error code for a trunk light
>complains about buttons
wew
>complains about reliability
ye mercs from mid 2000 really started going the shithole in terms of reliability

I am just pissed off that a lot of people will watch this and believe his shittalking

>>17311700
>Chevy SS
white trash
>911 porshe
meme machine
>used Tesla
>>used
>BMW M5
shit daily driver
>05 GTO with a blower and rebuilt engine
white trash

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>>17314061
He gets it

>>17311700
>used tesla

I honestly cannot think of a worse/dumber buy.

>>17314328
Teslas don't depreciate that much

>>17313601
Holy shit so a $90,000 car and a $20,000 car are worth the same after 17 years

damn

>>17313434
did you read what he wrote?

>>17314061
Yeah 911s and M5s are just beneath you fuck off

Benz are for poor fags get a miata

Buying a benz right out of warranty is retarded

>>17313218
>I have a 1999 e class
>Both are fine
I do not believe for a second that a W210 hasn't rusted.

>>17311397
Post your financial health

>>17311664
>Play both embedded videos at once
I'm fucking dead

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>>17311397
For the amount of money you're paying for this thing used I'd suggest you a) just lease a brand new S-Class or b) wait a year or two for it to fall below $35,000. If leasing new you'll only spend about $30,000 total assuming you get one of their leasing specials and have free warrantied work. If you're in the Southern California area I'd suggest Rusnak in Arcadia. They have $999 lease deals on RWD S550s sometimes.

I'm the anon who wrote this post btw; >>17312611, I forgot to respond to you OP.

If you choose option take some time to learn automotive basics. Mercedes aren't particularly difficult cars to work on, they're just built differently than American/Jap cars. They're much simpler and logically built than BMWs or VAG products by far. On the S-Class i'd say the only trouble spots are the air suspension and weird glitches in the lighting / infotainment systems, but there are very few mechanical issues. Merc drivetrains are generally very solid and durable. The only thing that might screw you is if a turbo goes out. The turbos on these are located in the V bank between the cylinders and wrap around the manifolds. They can be expensive to replace in labor hours if you're not able to do them yourself, but turbo failures aren't common on these. It's a low risk. I'd say go for the car if you like it OP, but I'd strongly suggest not going for this particular vehicle. Were I you I'd go with option B. I'm currently driving a C-Class and waiting for a current gen CLS550s and Jag XJRs to fall below the $35k mark for my next car.

>>17314442
It's carmax, they offer extended bumper to bumper warranties for reasonable rates. See: Doug Demuro's Land Rover experience.

As long as OP gets the warranty he'll be ok. If he doesn't he wont be ok.

>>17315995
I seriously doubt an extended warranty on an S-Class will be reasonable

>>17315979
>They have $999 lease deals on RWD S550s sometimes.
yeah with like $11,000 down

>>17316115
My grandpa got his back in 2015 with $5,000 down for 36 months. Arcadia is like the Chinese Beverly Hills of Socal, they have crazy deals on Mercs in the area. The BMW dealer in Alhambra has similar specials too.

>>17316143
That's still $41,000 in total payment for 3 years, not 30k

The cheapest I see right now is $1200 per month with $7k down

>>17315979
>Rusnak in Arcadia.

Right now they want $50,000 in total payments for 36 months and you can only put 30k miles on the car and every mile over if 25 cents

>>17311397
Its a baby car yacht. Its nice, comfy, and big.

However, why not just get an E63 Coupe later?

>>17316181

Fuck that's expensive, half the price of the car

>>17316181
>>17316186
plus you of course have to have full coverage insurance which will probably be $6000 per year at least

so like $68,000 to drive a car for 3 years then be carless

>>17316195
>so like $68,000 to drive a car for 3 years then be carless
sound financial decision

>>17316185
>E63 Coupe
autism pls go

>>17311397
>buying a car with an electronically controlled gear shift
You're basically asking Obama to drive your ass into a ravine

>carmax
This is how you spot a dumbass and a poorfag with shit credit.

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>>17316609
Ok whatever you say kek

>>17316609
lel

>>17316642
How does Carmax imply shit credit?

Also getting Carmax warranty on old sports cars and getting them serviced at retail dealerships is cash.

Why the fuck would you cuck yourself with a "luxury" piece of shit anyway?
The 60k that you idiots are talking about could get you pretty much any reasonable sports car you want

>>17311842
Teslas aren't luxury.

I want this meme to end.

If the pedals are regular plastic; guess what?
It's not a luxury car!

If the entire interior of the car is plastic; guess what?

ITS NOT A LUXURY CAR

Teslas are cheap pieces of shit. You pay 60k for the electric meme.

>>17312126
I've driven both extensively as well.
>>17312196
I'm with this guy it is a techie meme car.

I lol'd when they called the dude who fucked up big time watching harry potter while driving tech savvy.

Fucking meme car.

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>>17311397
lol

>>17311842
Tesla's aren't fucking luxury. I've been inside of this exact same vehicle but the '17 model. The S550 is a top-of-the-line vehicle. Especially in the backseat where you feel like an executive or even in the front where you feel like you own the road. Tesla's are for autistic manchildren who want a fucking iPad in the dashboard.

>>17311664
this shit right here made my day

>>17315995
Doug Demuro is fucking annoying.

>>17311692
this gets funnier every time you read it

>>17311611
This.

MB is a lease car for people who must drive a current year luxury sedan for whatever retarded reason.

>>17311846
This. S65 is the only Mercedes worth caring about nowadays (and the GT).

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>>17317021
Lucid is what realistically will be challenging the German luxury electric vehicles in the near future, not Tesla, they are going to start going mainstream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbXEWi-OK4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqF2RuNcG7M

>>17311397
>60k
is it an AMG at least?

>>17311416
>This luxury car is expensive to maintain
Hes doing that for views right?

>>17317978
With the v12 that only makes peak power for 100rpm?
No thanks, would rather have the s63

>>17311754
Every car "loses money" - that's a stupid argument. How about buying a shitbox honda for 38k and it's literally a pos to drive from the minute you buy it until the minute the transmission breaks and costs you 5k? In that instance, you wasted 38k the second the ink dried on the contract.

High end cars are expensive their ENTIRE lives. They cost more to maintain, repair, and fuel up. That's the way it is, and the way it always will be. If you're treating a car like an investment and trying to make sense of a rapidly depreciating purchase (every car...) then go buy a cheap, boring, uncomfortable, ugly Asian import, and stew in your imagined superiority.

Meanwhile, those of who actually own, drive, and maintain high end cars will continue to enjoy them every day.

Bottom line, OP...drive what you want, but be prepared to pay for it.

>>17318995
>How about buying a shitbox honda for 38k and it's literally a pos to drive from the minute you buy it until the minute the transmission breaks and costs you 5k? In that instance, you wasted 38k the second the ink dried on the contract.

yeah that happens all the time

>>17315979
Thank you for a thoughtful, knowledgeable post.

This. All day.

>>17319002
Honda auto traansmissions are well known for their shit-tier quality. Not news to anyone but you.

But keep believing that some copy-cat asian mega corporation who buy off Consumer Reports and JD Power and makes cute commercials make the best cars in the world. I've never been in a honda that I'd use as a restroom, let alone drive.

Defending Toyota/Honda/Nissan after all their poor quality for DECADES finally comes to light...whatever.

>>17319061
>Honda auto traansmissions are well known for their shit-tier quality. Not news to anyone but you.

Yeah buying a brand new honda and an out of warranty Sclass presents the same risk of a surprise $5000 repair bill

ur tarded?

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>>17318694
I'm dead serious my dad is an executive at financial firm that manages money for the Federal Reserve. He's fucking loaded!!

>>17311397
Depends, how much do you make? What's your net worth? For almost anyone I'd say this is gonna be too expensive.

>>17318604
I agree Lucid will be the future luxury electric option.

My father works in magnet wire and just sold them a ton of it for their motors.

>>17319061
>Honda auto traansmissions are well known for their shit-tier quality. Not news to anyone but you.
source?

t. 1999 automatic civic owner

>>17311611
It's already at half it's MSRP you dipshit

>>17319455
>It's already at half it's MSRP you dipshit

That's because at 3 years old and 12k miles it is half way through it's useful life

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>>17319464
>it is half way through it's useful life
You're wrong but okay

>>17319061
>Honda auto traansmissions are well known for their shit-tier quality. Not news to anyone but you.
sauce?

>>17319490
his ass

>>17319464
>That's because at 3 years old and 12k miles it is half way through it's useful life
kek'd

>>17319475
>skidding out 3 times

I can just imagine the seething NEETs with their used civics and foxbodies

>"wah its not a solid investment"
>"wah i work at mikky d's"
>"wah i wish i had a better car and didnt cry myself to sleep and jerk off to anime"
>"fuck anyone who works for a living and has an opinion"

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>>17319509
How else am I going to overtake FWD cucks at the 5 consecutive hairpin turns?

Real talk, don't ever use this mode you'll only end up crashing

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>>17319589
>tfw no dyno mode
>tfw can't do pulls at stoplights to verify horsepower

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Just buy a Lexus you tard.

I'll never understand people (who don't have fuck you money) who drop a ton of money on a euro car that will lose half it's value in a year.

>>17318691
>S550
>Is it an AMG?
This is a bait post right?

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>>17312513
>buying memes

>>17317087
>buying a hyundai
lol

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>>17311397
If you get it used, and its out of warranty, you better be able to work on it yourself or have a specialist you can go to, because like others have said, when shit goes wrong on it, its going to be pricey.

>>17320360
It's not a BMW where the engines have serious flaws (lol VANOS)

>>17319500
Sure...there's zero evidence. I just made it all up...

As for the people wanting real sauce, Honda has recalled literally millions of cars since the early 2000s for faulty transmission designs...poor fluid flow overheats, broken bearings, parking pawl failures, etc.

You couldn't pay me to own a Honda product built from 2001-2011. That's ten years of piss poor transmissions. If that's not an extensive problem, then I don't know what is.

As for the 99 Honda someone mentioned earlier...the systematic problems didn't kick in until after your car was built. I think the 97s or 98s had some minor problems, though.

Every car has got its problems...they're complicated machines...and they all break. Yes, an S-Class is expensive to maintain - it's a 100k car in the US. But...you won't find a better day-to-day car for comfort and quality for anywhere near the price.

Every car loses money...don't worry about the money you "lose" in depreciation. Life is short...drive what moves you.

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>>17320360
It's that bad senpai?

>>17320360
The car OP posted is in warranty. 4 years, 50k miles.

Buy it. Take it to MB dealer. Buy extended MB warranty coverage. Car is under full factory warranty for 3-6 years longer.

3 years for a low-miles S-Class would be about 3k, average. Then, have it serviced at a dealer - there's no better dealer experience, especially if you go to one with the new prototype dealership facility...

Learn to work on it, but most big things that are expensive (suspension, turbos, computers) are not easy to work on and require dealer programmming.

If you want the car, make it happen. Although, I'd say go to a dealer and buy CPO before you go to Carmax.

>>17322500
>As for the people wanting real sauce, Honda has recalled literally millions of cars since the early 2000s for faulty transmission designs...poor fluid flow overheats, broken bearings, parking pawl failures, etc.
and fixed them for for free!

>>17322540
Oh no they didn't! Just try to get them to cover the used car you just bought.

Their excuses, which I've heard with my own ears, more than once:

"Your driving habits caused the bearings to break"

"You can't prove you serviced the transmission at the prescribed interval"

etc etc etc

I understand there a lot of honda fanboys out there...I really do. But they break...catastrophically...and Honda doesn't stand by them.

>>17312513
AE86
>ugh, that guy

>>17322580
You are delirious

Ignore everyone here OP, listen to me. This is the only post you need to read.

First off, get *the* car, but not *that* car.

A 2014 S550 is no doubt going to be a "regret buy". You will obviously be happy.

Find one for 50-55k. I can find a lot for that price and that is a really good deal. 60k is nothing insane. Do not get silver also, go with black.

Do it, you will be happy

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>>17319452
I love them as a company, they're run by a bunch of ex-Tesla engineers who wanted to build more premium, less hype driven vehicles. They definitely seem to have more substantial and realistic business plans and goals than Tesla did at a similar stage in their companies lifespan. I got to meet some of their design staff at an school event and they seem a lot more passionate and capable in a grounded way. I hope for the best for them. I feel Lucid is going to be more akin to Mercedes while Tesla is going to end up more like VW in the long run, or rather maybe the Samsung Galaxy to the Iphone crowd, but that's more subjective. That's not to say Tesla is bad mind you.

>>17320313
Still better than Kia

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>>17311397
>3 years old
>12k miles
>already at HALF ITS ORIGINAL VALUE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>17323447
$60,000 is 2/3rds of $90,000

That's 10% annually. Cars typically depreciate 8%-20% per year. The first year is typically the steepest averaging 18%

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>>17323456
Sorry, I can't hear you over my actually good car brand hardly depreciating at all

>>17323482
Subarus are awesome. Doesn't mean Mercedes are bad though. They depreciate because they don't have superior Jap reliability and most people don't know how to own them affordably I.E. going to independent shops or performing your own basic maintenance. You can abuse the crap out of a Subaru.