Now that the yadda yadda yadda, what is /o/'s opinion

>>17198925
On par with the Miata, though I prefer the Fiat's looks. Can't say anything about the Abarth version.

>>17198925
It's an ND with a better suspension tune stock, and a tarbo motor with lots of existing aftermarket. It's pretty awesome.

>>17198943
The Fiat looks so fucking generic. The Miata is so recognizable.

Looks better than the Miata, worse engine, no 50/50 weight distribution, Abarth is too expensive

Still thinking about getting one of these. Strange thing Ive not seen an Abarth version with the black hood.

Looks like a Mustang mini roadster.

>>17198962
>worse engine
Wot

>>17198976
Smaller displacement, SoHC

>>17199005
What part of turbo do you not understand?

>>17199012
Has to turbo just to match the Miata numbers. You can turbo a Miata.

>>17198961
>The Miata is so recognizable
Yeah, maybe the older models, but the newest design looks like generic Japanese convertible #425.

>>17199020
It's a turbo on a very conservative factory tune with a crap factory exhaust and whatnot. And the ECU has already been cracked because it's the 500 Abarth motor. Adding power will be as easy as an exhaust and a tune to up the boost. Maybe a larger intercooler as well. Whereas you have to go through the whole shebang to turbo the miata and it's already running 14:1 compression.

>>17199022
No way, I can spot the ND for miles away

They look cool as fuck.

>>17199005
SOHC is a bit of an understatement. The intake valves actually use something similar to freevalve.

>>17199029
>Muh potential

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Has nothing on the ND.

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wary of the hydraulic roof but it looks brettygud

>>17199022
I dont know any other Japanese convertible that are currently in production.
Kei-cars dont count.

>>17199151
>hydraulic
electric

i prefer everything about the ND except ease/cost of tuning. you can still get 200hp na out of one though.

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>>17199113
i prefer the colored trim on the rf instead of black

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>>17198976
>high strung 1.6l running 22psi stock
everythings fine here
just dandy

>>17199169
Fucking hell you're right. I take back what I said, how the hell do they need that much boost to make 160 hp?

>>17199022
There are 424 other Japanese convertibles?

>>17199020

>adding a turbo to a NA skyactiv

Sounds like you want it to explode

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stock it's not much to pay attention to, the powerband is kind of shit as well

it's going to get really good once good tunes and turbo swaps begin to appear, that engine can make 230whp on stock internals in the 500 abarth

>>17198961
i don't think the fiat looks great, but the miata looks like every other modern car with le angry headlights

>>17199236
it's been done. orange virus tuning is at the forefront of skyactiv turbos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpvTawfrbbk

>>17199271
I'm so tired of people saying the new miata has angry headlights. They don't look angry to me at all, especially with the open mouth grill, it just makes the car look excited/happy but in a less gay way than the NC looked.

>>17199820
They're too chinky, ugly, and smol.

>>17199847
Well it is very Japanese looking to me, so I can see that, but ugly is subjective. Personally think they nailed it for making it look good without being too aggressive like modern toyota/lexus cars are.

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>>17198957

>>leaving a Miata suspension stock

>>17199881
Well, you have less to do if the suspension is better stock.

>>17198925
It's a miata that doesn't look like a clown car

Nice vehicle.

>>17199154
370Z roadster