If Ferrari and Lamborghini are rivals, if BMW and Mercedes Benz

well in the racing world it was Audi

its doesnt really have a rival

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I... Ask myself this everyday

Ferrari kind of, even though they always got BTFO just like Lamborghini got BTFO by Ferrari

Porsche > Ferrari > Lamborghini

Nobody because they're too good

>>17181120

in terms of unreliable overpriced pieces of shit their rival is Audi

nobody
theyre unironically the best euro manufacturer and the rest know they cant compete with Porsche

>>17181182
Audi can't be rivals with Porsche because they are both owned by VAG

Nissan?

>>17181182
>unreliable
Needs citation

>>17181190
No

>>17181190
Did you put any thought into this before you posted it?

>>17181190
what did he mean by this?

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>>17181202

>>17181190
this

>>17181120
Anything but Chebby and corvette.

Toyota

Tesla

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No body can rival them

>>17181200
Well, listen me out. I know they are volume sellers but they have the Z and the GTR.
I can speak from experience of owning more than 20 cars. From the first car I owned. Toyota Carina(that thing was a space shuttle) when I was dumbass 20 year old to the last 2015 BMW 3.
I have also owned a Porsche (Cayenne- motherfucker used same amount of fuel a tank would).
And I have also driven gazillion cars.
Among them were Porsche Carrera and 350z.

I can honestly say that amongst all the cars I have ever driven, the second most raw power I was feeling from a car was coming from the 350z.

Only the 350z was comparable to Carrera, both in speed and feel.
This is just a personal opinion, but I believe same can apply to GTR Nismo vs Porsche 911 turbo S.

In automotive racing it used to be audi.

>>17181120
Porsche has his own league.

>>17181120
MClaren you dumbfuck

>>17181120
Corvette/911 has always been a longstanding comparison.

>>17181120
They are not fighting against any brand its a bit like Nintendo with Xbox and Playstation, just doing their own thing for people who enjoy it.

>>17181509
McLaren would be rival of anyone that does hyper cars only

>>17181120
In terms of occupying the same segment?

Lotus comes the closest to what Porsche used to be.

>>17181120
No one.

>>17181120
I can only think Aston Martin or Maserati could compete in some same segment with Porsche other than not alredy said.

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>>17181190

>>17181120
AMG

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Porsche is too stronk to have rivals

>>17183301
That poor fucking 10th place team
>you had one job

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>>17181328
>well, listen me out
I listened, and for that reason I'm out

>>17181120
Used to be Mazda

A little bit of a stretch but Lexus

>>17183483
>>17181269
>>17181190
WOW

>>17181196
He is correct though Audi is shit.

>>17183502
Or jaguar

Nobody.

Like....hasn't the 911 been hailed as the best street car for.....like ever?

>>17183301
Fuck me that's a great ad.

Christ you guys are fucking retarded. Porsche's rivals are AMG and BMW motorsport.

>>17183675

Nope.

Porsche in a league of it's own.

>>17181120
kinda ferrari and kinda audi.
The F40 and 959 can be directly compared.
The endurance races is where audi and porsche can be said to be rivals, where porsche blows them the fuck out so hard, audi crashes into a wall.

that laws of physics. which is why the keep making death traps.

RR 911s with no driving aids and wonky suspension geometry.

carrera GT

>>17181120
shit tier VAG's unless you have a GT3

>>17183529
Not a citation.

>>17183529
Least reliable cars under 3 years old:

123. Ford S-Max 8.2% 67 000 km
124. Ford Mondeo 8.3% 74 000 km
125. Renault Kangoo 9.0% 46 000 km
126. Dacia Duster 9.2% 51 000 km
126. Fiat 500 9.2% 28 000 km
128. Ford Ka 9.4% 31 000 km
129. Dacia Logan 9.8% 43 000 km
130. Fiat Punto 10.5% 33 000 km
131. Chevrolet Spark 10.6% 30 000 km
132. Chevrolet Captiva 11.0% 49 000 km
133. Kia Sorento 11.2% 52 000 km
134. Kia Sportage 11.5% 43 000 km

Most reliable:
1. Porsche 911 2.1% 29 000 km
1. Mercedes-Benz GLK 2.1% 52 000 km
3. Mercedes-Benz B 2.2% 40 000 km
4. Mercedes-Benz A 2.3% 40 000 km
5. Mercedes-Benz SLK 2.4% 29 000 km
6. Mercedes-Benz M 2.5% 63 000 km
6. Mazda 2 2.5% 33 000 km
8. Opel Adam 2.6% 26 000 km
8. Opel Mokka 2.6% 35 000 km
10. Audi Q5 2.7% 61 000 km

>>17184976
3-5 years old most reliable:
1. Mercedes-Benz SLK 2.9% 41 000 km
2. Audi A6 4.2% 88 000 km
3. Audi TT 4.4% 57 000 km
4. Porsche 911 4.8% 47 000 km
4. Audi Q5 4.8% 86 000 km
6. Mitsubishi ASX 5.0% 71 000 km
7. Audi A1 5.4% 57 000 km
8. Mazda 3 5.6% 60 000 km
8. BMW X1 5.6% 68 000 km
8. Mercedes-Benz GLK 5.6% 75 000 km
8. Hyundai ix20 5.6% 52 000 km

Least Reliable:
114. Ford Ka 14.7% 49 000 km
115. Fiat Punto 14.9% 57 000 km
116. Chevrolet Captiva 15.0% 71 000 km
116. Fiat 500 15.0% 46 000 km
118. Chevrolet Spark 15.3% 50 000 km
119. Volkswagen Fox 15.4% 54 000 km
120. Chevrolet Cruze 17.8% 64 000 km
121. Dacia Sandero 18.1% 58 000 km
122. Fiat Panda 18.4% 50 000 km
123. Renault Kangoo 18.5% 69 000 km
124. Dacia Logan 22.6% 72 000 km

>>17181186
VAG owned by Porsche. Nice family.

McLaren

>>17181178
When did Porsche btfo Ferrari?
Porsche is to afraid to compete in F1.

>>17185145
Porsche won with McLaren in F1. Also Dakar Rally, that Ferrari can only dream.

>>17183582
>hasn't the 911 been hailed as the best street car for.....like ever?

If you read the mostly german-owned motoring press in Europe . . . .

>>17185149
Hahahaha
Dakar?! Holy shit.
Fucking cowards.

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>>17185149
Please tell me more about glorious Porsche-F1.

>>17181120
Every other brand in its respective segment
Cayenne - X5/ gls
Panamera - cls/ s-class, some maserati
911 - m4/ c63 (and up, there are so many versions of it)
Cayman - 1m/ rs3/ slk
Macan - x3/x4/ glc

>>17181120
If rival=enemy? RWB.

>>17181120
There really is no company that can compete with the quality that makes up Porsche's lineup.
The only argument you can make is they don't have a cheap FR car, but as you faggots have shown with the BRZ, there's simply no market for it.

>>17185177
This
Boxster/Cayman competitor is the M2/TTRS though
Panamera competitors are 6 series gran coupe and Mercedes CLS

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Unrelated but am I the only one who is unsettled that the voltswagon and Porsche look somewhat similar

>>17185349
deisgned by the same guy

>>17181120
RUF [spoiler]:^)[/spoiler]

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>>17183529
Whatever you say buddy

>>17181120
Any brand that markets towards rich husbands looking for a shopping car for their trophy wife is rivaling Porsche.

>>17185349
God that VW looks retarded. It's like they literally folded up that Porsche's front and didn't change one bit about it. What were they thinking?

>>17184988
>no FCA products in the most reliable list
>3 fiats in the least reliable list
that hurts FCA cuck feelings

>>17181120
Jaguar Land-Rover

>>17181120
The world

>>17185349
One is trying to emulate the look of what the other evolved from.

>>17184988
>>17184976
BAD NEWS EVERYONE

>>17181178
>Lamborghini
the ones, who produce cheapest hypercar of those, who can run Noschelife for <7:00 min?
the ones, who produce faster supercar for <$200k?

>>17181182
>Unreliable
Porsches are actually pretty reliable for German cars

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>>17185245
Well almost everything is better looking than Panamera. Especially Aston Martin Rapide and Maserati Quattroporte. Even the Audi S7.

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>>17186437
oh no the dacia!

>>17184976
>>17184988
>Dacia Logan that low
I had mine for 5 years and literally absolutely nothing ever went wrong with it aside from the battery going flat because I left the interior lights on for 2 days.

Guess I got lucky.

>>17185539
So BMW it is

>>17181200
>>17181202
>>17182391
>>17183511
Think he might be referring to that period of time when Nissan tried shitting on the Cayman & 997 Turbo

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>>17185145
but they had the boat anchor

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>>17181190
oh am I laffin

>>17185525
Sauce.
If it's from Consumer Report I have to doubt it, they've been caught faking test results and fraud. Why people still go to them is beyond me.
I so want Porsche to be up there yes.

>>17181120
It would be cool if there was a complete mirror brand that competed with them, but I think they compete with particular cars, not entire brands. I think the closest would be Ferrari and BMW?

>>17188710
Sauce?

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the AMG GT is pretty much the closest thing I can think of at least in terms of competing with a 911

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>>17181190
dood

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>>17181190
Nein.

>>17191023
M4 GTS competes with 911 GT3

>>17181120
Mayyybe Maserati? At least when they were making non-shit cars.