>hand built by SRT
>6-digit price tag
>individually customized for each owner
>bespoke V10 engine
>206 MPH top speed
>13 track records in ACR trim
Why is this not a supercar again?
Was*
>>17038312
>>13 track records in ACR trim
Because it needs a none road legal trim to be competitive.
Also anyone thinking the interior is like typical Dodge/Fiat trash has never sat in one. It's solidly put together with no cheap plastics.
>>17038325
ACR is fully street legal
>>17038325
ACR is street legal
ACR-X and the GTS-R is not
>>17038312
>Why is this not a supercar again?
It is. This car makes Yuropooreans cry at night.
>handbuilt by street apes
Because it's a track car
Ferrari cried
>>17038369
As a europoor i am happy to see another sports car by Americans actually.
>>17038312
I consider it a super car
>>17038339
that's a beautiful interior
>>17038369
Why would it make Europeans upset? They make faster track cars that don't need a massive 8 litre engine to power them
See the bac mono or literally any radical
I'm sure the ariel atom is faster as well
Why can't Americans build proper performance vehicles?
>>17038370
>black people make better cars than europeans
Makes you think
>>17038442
Agreed. it manages to be Modern and not too complicated or futuristic. reminds me of the Driver-focused interiors of the 90 perfectly brought to life in the modern era.
>>17038339
Didn't motor trend say the interior fit and finish was shit or something like that?
>>17038444
>See the bac mono or literally any radical
Unlike the ACR they run on road legal rubber.
>it's the 100th America vs Europe thread today
Reminder this is a joint project between America and Italy
>>17038444
Those aren't production cars. i mean the Aero can go 250+ mph and doesn't need 8 liters like the Veyron. the GT can technically go 290+mph.
>>17038481
All Italy did was try to disconnect it from the Dodge brand (calling it "SRT Viper") and overprice it.
Because it's American
>>17038312
>no ABS
>no TCS
>no paddle shift
its too demanding for your average gtr shitposter
>>17038526
The new ACR does have ABS and ESC since it's required by law or something. Previous one didn't
>>17038543
>The new ACR does have ABS and ESC
toggleable or no? regardless, I'm sure a lot of guys have gotten their ecus reflashed to disable it
>>17038526
Those things make you go faster anyway
Even the zonda r has them
>>17038548
You can turn it off completely.
>>17038312
>V10
>only 206mph
murikan engineering
>>17038594
>V8, electric motors, AWD, DCT, active aero, mostly carbon fiber, nearly a million $
>slower around a track than a dump truck with some aero bits and a manual gearbox
German engineering everyone
>>17038339
What oz cup can those cup holders hold?
>>17039063
That said, I still love the fact everyone was circlejerking over the Viper "beating the GT-R" at the Nurburgring in the day.
>spec with no AC and ridiculous suspension
>essentially cheater slicks and practically no interior
>covered in aero enhancements
>only just beating a cheaper V6 Grand Tourer with a luxury interior
gj dodge.
>>17039063
Show me a viper faster than the 918 around the ring or thermal club (918 and acr were put around here with the same driver, not some paid fat ass American journalist)
>>17039121
I forgot to add that the actual professional driver (not some paid journalist amerilard) took the 918 around almost five seconds faster than the acr
Stay btfo
>>17039121
link?
>>17039108
Viper is cheaper and doesn't have AWD, still beats the nip car.
>>17039163
The gtr is faster than the viper around the ring
Unless you want to bring a non street legal purpose built race car acrx into the equation
In which case... the NISMO GTR gt3 laps in 6:40s
>>17039121
If I post Laguna Seca times are you just going to bitch and whine because you don't like it?
>>17039168
All GT3 cars would Lap in 6:40. alphonse or someone said that's where they got the estimate for the time.
>>17039172
Nah, I just don't care for lap times that are the result of an entire day of record attempts in a single car being compared to the best results from a mere handful of hot laps
Which is pretty much the deal with every track in America
>>17039121
Laguna Seca - 1:28.65
Road Atlanta - 1:26.54
Waterford Hills - 1:10.89
Nelson Ledges - 1:06.21
Motown Mile - 51.17
GingerMan Raceway - 1:31.91
Pittsburgh International Race Complex - 58.37
Grattan Raceway - 1:22.09
Virginia International Raceway - 2:40.02
Willow Springs Raceway - 1:21.24
MotorSport Ranch - 1:16.98
Buttonwillow Raceway Park - 1:47.70
Inde Motorsports Ranch - 1:33.75
>>17039214
Oh look, all day long record attempts vs a few hotlaps
So desperate Lmao
Theres a reason dodge hasn't put it around the ring, because they don't want their false reality of all day long record attempts vs random hot laps to be shattered
>>17038481
>Reminder this is a joint project between America and Italy
The only part Fiat had in this car was buying the company and discontinuing it after it whupped the shit out of pretty much every Ferrari.
>>17039262
it was FMVSS #226
>>17038312
So it's almost as fast as the Demon?
It's ok I guess
>>17038312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrehQjsz5ck&spfreload=10
Tfw Pennzoil manages to make better car films than the fast and furious series
>>17038339
I can smell it, i thought king ranch's had too much raw hide.
>>17039610
That's probably a lot better than what the actual viper sounds like. Doesn't matter.
>>17039610
DEAR FUCKING JESUS THEYRE MAKING A DODGE DEMON ONE
>I'VE ALREADY CAME PENNZOIL PLEASE
Because Americans only make overweight shitboxes that can only barely turn. The Viper is only a good car because of Italians turning a literal truck engine into something decent and making a chassis that can handle the stresses while still driving reasonably well.
>>17039386
Until a turn.
I'm American and get a chubby at the thought of the demon but let's be realistic, it's a drag car and nothing more. They even changed the rear suspension from the hellcat for the demon to be soft so it would squat and put power down at the launch. It's built to go straight, nothing more.
>>17038312
It's in the middle of a Venn diagram where super car, sports car, and muscle car meet. It's supermuscle.
>>17038312
Let's face it, as much as I like the viper Chevrolet rekt em sales wise by being just as good for a fraction of the price.
>>17039657
>I'm ok with this description
A muscle car that can turn, holy shit.
>>17039661
>while being just as good
Pretty sure the viper doesn't overheat after two minutes on a track, unlike the corvette e
Pretty sure they don't have wide spread issues of engines catastrophically failing from between 6 miles and 6000 miles, unlike the corvette
Pretty sure the current generation viper didn't have half a dozen recalls within a single month of release! Unlike the corvette
And I'm pretty sure it can manage to beat a decade old v6 nissan
... unlike the corvette
>>17039610
SNEK A CUTE. A CUTE!
>>17039656
Italians never touched the chassis. they recasted the engine in aluminum so it was lighter although in some races it wasn't even allowed to use all 10 cylinders so they shut 2 off making it a V8 which is what it was originally going to be.
>>17039685
Do you actually believe that or are you simply writhing in asspain induced denial from the loss?
>I know the answer :^)
>>17039685
All valid except the argument about recalls.
We all know Chrysler wouidn't bother to address a known issue unless the government threatened them repeatedly.
>>17039703
replied to wrong person>>17039644
How does it handle the touge? Will it be able to get close enough JEE TEE ARU and be able to read the legendary symbol for invincibility?
>>17039703
The Viper V10 has been Aluminum-block since day 1. The truck V10 is actually a Viper V10 in cast iron, not the other way around, and this was way before the Italians anyway.
>>17039190
>lets not attempt to push a car to it's limits in order to get it's absolute best lap time.
Drink Cyanide
>a Japanese v6 beat an American v8
>it took an American v10 to beat said v6
Would the JEE TEE ARU beat snek if it had a v8 instead?
>>17039714
Nice selfie bruh
Stay btfo
>>17039722
And gm doesn't recall ignition switches that they know kill people until they are threatened with fines that would send them bankrupt
Dodge is an angel compared to gm
>>17039759
no, because they would have simply boosted it to get the same power ratings.
>>17039729
https://youtu.be/9WpaRIqDDN8