Why the fucking nigger shit can I not get a fucking Land Rover defender
Crash rating that's about equivalent to a steel box dropped on your from a few hundred feet
>>17015008
Why bother? You know how bad they hold up? Get an old shitty GWagon, they're god tier. Or maybe even a Land Cruiser.
>>17015022
What is this, communist fucking China?
WHO
FUCKING
CARES
>not being free enough to import one
Just get a Wrangler.
>>17015023
Those are shit
The defender is the only Jeep available besides the Wrangler.
>>17015008
..import one for <20,000 or try and buy one that was sold by land rover in the 90s for like 60k
>>17015031
I will be
But you know damn well if defenders were available that wranglers would be 40% less.
>>17015048
Online says you'll get fucked hard by the law if you import
>>17015008
Why would you wan't one? Wouldn't they flip if you cranked the wheels full lock and accelerated? That makes a Jeep doing a moose test look like a F1 car. There's none left because they've all fallen apart.
>>17015068
Because jeeps are unique and it's even more unique
Jeep is a goodcar and the defender is a goodjeep !
>>17015008
After traveling half the country in a defender, my advice is: Don't.
For all your hard core off road stuff it comes down to ground clearance and a winch, and to a smaller degree diff lockers.
Once you realise this you can get in almost any diesel 4x4 with a big enough tank.
Defenders are uncomfortable. Extremely noisey in the cabin at 60mph. And the switches are on the opposite sides of the steering wheel than most cars
>>17015151
but they look cooler than any other off road car and thats why most people want them
>>17015957
They're also better off road than most other off road cars, just not great on the road.
>25 year import law
>The older ones are pretty much the same, except the engine is bigger, less powerful or efficient
>>17015957
But its actually an ugly eurobox turd
>>17015151
Defenders are a fucking hoot to drive
The newest ones with the big turbodiesels can bully Mercs and Beemers on motorways
They roll like a drunk pirate through corners
You will always win in any traffic accident
They're so ugly they look great
What's not to love?
>>17015008
>>17015008
Bong here, they are terrible. Trust me, you don't want one.