This is it b/o/ys, THIS IS IT. I got DESTROYED by a VW Transporter

Shut the fuck up

learn to drive gooder

also bait thread

>>16952718
>buys slow economy car
>is mad when it's slow and economy

Here's your (You), OP.

>>16952718
I have a T5, they are pretty nippy when not fully loaded.

The 2.0l 140 engine is very nice.

>>16952718
Shit bait
Shit post

>>16952718
In other things that didn't happen, a mustang turned and a corvette compleated a lap of the ring.

>>16952718
Its bait
but
>HKS or Vortech supercharger?
is actually an intersting question.

HKS or Vortech?

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Daily reminder

Just stick in a 2GR-FSE and call it a day

>>16952856
I'm aiming for 0-60 in around 5 seconds and top speeds ideally upward of 165 mph. I know the 280 bhp Vortech kit is good for 5.4s and 164 mph, so a slightly more aggressive tune should do the trick, if not, half a second give or take, who cares at the end of the day...

The fastest 86 I personally know has a turbo kit and roughly 300 bhp and clocked in at 5.07s 0-60.

Has anyone in tge world done a 1UZ swap into a BrZfrsGt86?

>>16952905
For what reason when there's already plug and play LS kits?

>>16952911
For shits?

Also is there anything a LS wont swap into?

Edelbrock or JRSC or bust.

>>16952941
Both not available in my country. TÜV wouldn't allow it, even if I paid the horrendous import tax.

It's not always about speed, takashi. It's how fast you get around those corners, why have a powerful car when you can't use it to it's full potential in the short straightaways.

>>16952958
Because all the other cars go faster around the corners. Speed and power is a huge part of getting around corners quickly. The brz has no significant agility because it has no power to make it agile

>>16952958
>implying the 86 can turn either
Nice try though

>>16952772
>>16952736
>>16952742
HAHAHA
>ITT BUTTHURT TOYOBARU OWNERS
How does it feel to be driving that waste of money memebix around you flaming faggots.
It won't increase your dick size.

>>16952982
But..but... It can drift

>>16952958
Yeah uhhhh unless u live in niphole, manchuria where the land is small and all you have is twisty mountain roads, the US is mostly straight away races.
You'll get fucking embarassed by 20 year old cars with just two more cylinders.
Dont even try and pull that "track day" bullshit either. Tracks have straightaways:

>>16952718
false flag thread.
Nobody who buys toyobaru and leaves it stock is interested in drag races. And they wouldn't get salty over it because they, unlike the bench racers, know what the car is for.

>>16952995

A GT86 with dedicated performance summer tires can keep up with much faster cars on a track.

>>16953032
I have Michelin PSSs on the stock wheels and my friend with a 280bhp hothatch can't keep up with my otherwise stock GT86 on a twisty road. Torque frequently shows slightly upward of 1g in the corners.

>>16953041

I wish the Sport 4S would launch in Canada, the PSS are way too expensive. I was looking into getting Hankook Ventus V12s but I'll wait until stock tires die.

>>16953059
I pad 480 bucks for a set of PSSs, when I learned the PS4S doesn't come in small sizes.

>>16953073

That's an insane price. I got quoted 800$ USD for 225/40R18, installation and all that.

>>16953080
The magic of 17" wheels.

>>16952736
>butthurt FRS weenie

lmao no power.

Also
>when will they learn?

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>>16952889
no

no

DELET THIS

>>16952718
this is the most millennial picture i've seen in a while

>>16952889
>implying anyone that posts here is doing the hurdurring under 9:00

>>16953149
I'm German and I actually did a 9:02 in my GT86 last year. Almost as much traffic as on the Autobahn, so that's good enough.

>>16953152
>that's good enough.
but its literally not

>>16953156
Traffic you cunt, there's fucking 125cc motorcycles and buses and shit that hold you up in every 2nd corner because you're not allowed to pass on the right.

>>16953156
How many laps of the Nurburgring have you done, fellow busbro?

>>16953172
He's probably waiting to put a real engine in his 86 first.

>slower than a Genesis.

The memes write themselves.

>>16952889
I'm surprised how fast the Nissan R33 is. Fucking wallops the more expensive NSX from the same period.

>also surprised how slow the Hyundai Genesis is
It has like 140 more horses than the 86GT and only about a second faster. So why aren't we talking about how shit the Genesis is.

>>16952771

We used to have a 2.8 T5 which we fitted a larger turbo to and had remapped. It was about 190hp at the front wheels, and was crazy fast up to about 80, then it petered off. Was hilarious baiting boy racers in shit boxes, then destroying their dreams in this tatty old van.

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>>16952967
>this post

>>16953025
>What every toyobaru tells themselves when they get walked by nearly every shit box on the road

>>16953195
>So why aren't we talking about how shit the Genesis is.
Because hating the GT86 and saying literally every car is better than it is mandatory virtue signalling to fit in on /o/.

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JUST

>>16953346
>>16953194

>>16953358
There is literally nothing wrong with the pre-refresh multipla.

>>16953362
:^)

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if you wanted a fast car
you should have bought a fast car

what do people not understand about what the 86 was trying to accomplish?

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>>16953346
mfw not coming to where I live, why?

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>>16953032
>>16953041
>>16953059
>>16953073
>>16953080
This doesn't matter you stupid fucking nigger cucks.
You can put decent tires on any car and it improves performance.
The point is spending that much on the pathetically underpowered "sports" car is undeniably retarded.
If your friend with the hit hatch hand your same tires he'd still wipe the fucking asphalt with your slow ass.
Nobody can justify the disgusting gimmick that is the 86/frs/brz.
Commit suicide.

>>16952889
its got to be faster around the nurb than 8:44, for fucks sake there are 100whp ae86's pulling faster lap times than that on the nurb.

>>16953447
8:44 full lap is actually pretty ok. You're probably seeing BTG laptimes with are about 20-30sec quicker

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>>16953447
I know anon.
That's The Joke

>>16953439
>You can put decent tires on any car and it improves performance.
A Fiat Multipla with semi-slicks feels like a Formula 1 car, yeah sure.
>If your friend with the hit hatch hand your same tires he'd still wipe the fucking asphalt with your slow ass.
He has the factory option Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s. Top fucking kek lad, top fucking kek.

>>16953447
>its got to be faster around the nurb than 8:44
It is actually, below 8:30 is easy with real tires. None of the other times you're seeing were set on literally deliberately low grip drift tires.

>>16953152
thats pretty good, you´re around 55 seconds slower than a pro.

>>16953346
>almost an egg shaped air scoop for a nose

closer...

>>16953473
Itt:
Stories that never happened
Lies from butthurt toyobaru owners
Intense damage controls.
C'mon anons. That """"197"""" horspower from your shitty outdated subaru motor gets dropped hard through that heavy chinkshit driveline and you know it.
The car is slow.
Either stop defending it and accept your failure or just get another one with decent power.
Kill you are selves.

>>16953439
You can't just slap grippy tires on anything and expect great results. You think that a fucking Fiat Multipla with slicks is going to pull the same cornering speeds as a 918? No, retard. You need the chassis rigidity and suspension balance to make sure the car can handle the high cornering G's. Luckily the GT86 has a very good chassis so it does just fine with high grip tires.

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>>16953473
lel I didn't say shit about a fiat multipla or a formula one car.
I just said it improves performance.
>this much damage control

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>>16953497
>bringing up the fiat again
>implying older cars with more power don't have chassis rigidity
Holy fucking kek dude just stop lmao you're embarrassing yourself.

>>16953517
>bringing up older cars
The retard is you.

>>16953495
Still faster than the bus you don´t even own.

>>16953517
New cars usually have better chassis as a result of technology developing. It's common knowledge. I guess I shouldn't trust a retard like you to know, though.

>>16953546
>btfo toyobaru owner denying the truth
literally degenerate.
I hope you get cancer but can't afford medication because of the payments on that "driver's car".

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>>16953556
No you fucking faggot retard.
New cars have heavier chassis also because of new safety regulations.
A sports car from the early 90s/late 80s still had good chassis but less weight and more power because they didn't get cucked bu regulations.
You don't know shit about cars and that's why you invested so much in a slow chinkbox.
Now do some sikkkk exaust mods, pipe it uo to your cabin air vent, roll up all the windows and rev for 10 minutes. thanks.

>>16953562
>I hope you get cancer but can't afford medication because of the payments on that "driver's car".
I'm already incurably ill, got free healthcare and paid the car cash upfront. Tell me more about your 20 year old shitbox.

>>16953573
>New cars have heavier chassis
How heavy is the 86 again?

>>16953473
>all seasons
>drift tires

>>16953587
>How heavy is the 86 again?
Not light enough to matter

>>16953592
They used the Primacy HPs specifically for their low grip. They wanted the car to be tailhappy, not carve through corners.
>>16953601
>the 86 doesn't matter
In your tiny world maybe.

>>16953601
>Not light enough to matter
I like this parroted meme, only new car in price range lighter is Miata

>>16953608
>They used the Primacy HPs specifically for their low grip.
No those are just prius all seasons tires because they're lazy fucks who won't ship it with slicks

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>>16953608
Shut up faggot. That anon is right it's not light enough to matter.
Reminder you can get a 2600 lb integra type r for less, throw good tires on it and watch you toyobaru cucks die from embarrassment.

>>16953627
That's a used FWD riced out car

>>16953615
>new car
If you weren't some beta nu-male faggot you could get an old one cheaper and wrench on it like real enthusiasts.
Oh wait this is /o/.

>>16953615
It's not light enough to bolster its agility. Fact being that it's getting out performed by heavier cars in the same agility aspects that it claims to be good at. It's obviously not light enough to matter for its stupidly low power and torque dip that Toyota won't fix

>>16953637
>buy an old used shitbox instead
Never change /o/

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>>16953633
>riced out
Literally drink bleach
A stock type R is lightweight and has an engine with almost the same power.
It's not rices unless you buy it from some spic or you threw on some "sick aero mods" yourself.

Just buy a damn Mustang. It's the fastest you can get for the money.

>>16953639
Same could be said about Miata, heavier cars get better laptimes that doesn't make em more fun to drive
>>16953649
A stock type r is nowhere to be found and 20k for one with over 100k miles you jackass

>>16953645
>having no skill or knowledge on cars.
Find a new board faggot nobody respects you.
Neither here nor irl.
I hope that cuck semen leaking from your gfs vagina doesn't have too many stds man.

>>16953663
Yep, another triggered poorfag

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>>16953663
>I hope that cuck semen leaking from your gfs vagina doesn't have too many stds man.


literally what?

>>16953680
He's having an autism attack

>>16953673
>projecting this hard
Kek it's sad that you think just because people have the skill and ability to wrench they have to be poor.
If you had even a decent amount of money saved tou could have easily bought something modern that's faster.

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>>16952995
unless you have a racing license and are in the highest skill group the straight on a track is used as a passing zone for all around faster cars
>have two 996 porsche's and a cadillac ats-v on my stock 1.6 miata's blue flag list

Guys stop shitting up the board this argument is old, the 'yobaru is not a fast car, nobody said it was. Can we go back to gtr vs camaro memes?

>>16953685
What new car at under 30k is better option? All I can think of is WRX that comes close, maybe Miata but I wanted an actual fixed hardtop

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>>16953705
I'm just trying to help the 86 cucks come out of their Dagumi meme fantasy and realise life is not /a/.
Don't spend that much money on a sub-par toyota, please.

>>16953695
Enlighten me

>>16953720
DUDE LSD LMAO

>>16953723
literally what?
I'm not talking about the poorfags who opt for the open diff.
You can get the LSD.

>>16953735
Base models don't have it

>>16953705
Ecoboost mustang is 26,000

>>16953745
No, WRX IS better in every way than Ecobewst. 86 is for fun but if benchracing is what mattered to me I'd rather get WRX

>>16953742
Yeah I know this you fucking retard.
Base model anything is for poor children.
Even if you go base you can easily swap in an lsd.

>>16953756
So then the 370z doesn't apply then you mongoloid

>>16953761
Hmmm looks like you're a poorfag to me

>>16953786
Nope, just responsible adult with a budget.

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>>16953761
You don't need Lsd anyways you're going to get dragged on by a base model 370 on any straight you fag.

>>16953795
Herp derp stoplights, you realize a heavy bloated challenger would fuck you up at the stoplights? Does that make the 370z shit, no. I'm starting to think you shitposters can't into logic

>>16953804
The 370z does twistes better than the 86

>>16953804
370 has better lap times too.
Yes, base model open diff.
Stop trying ti justify your slow shit.
You lose.

>>16953814
Doubt.jpg, even if it does is it that much a surprise knowing out the door you spent over 35k?

>>16953821
Why are 370z owners becoming so insecure

>>16953831
Why can't gt86 owners accept the truth?

>>16953832
What truth? Nobody claims it's fast, I enjoy mine on good roads while the rest of the dorks circlejerk at carmeets

>>16953831
The bottom line is the gt86 just doesn't have enough performanc to be worth that much.
It's all body and advertising.
some manufacturers out there are still concerned with proving themselves as producers of superior performance, not baiting unknowing boy tacers.

>>16953837
>I enjoy mine on good roads
You can even enjoy it on bad roads desu.

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>>16953837
>rest of the dorks
found the bullied childhood

>>16953840
It's priced right actually, weight or power is what you gotta ask yourself. If power I'd just get a used 07+ 350z
>>16953850
Northern California has great roads desu alot of fun
>>16953854
What was the discussion at the last meet, optimal vape juice?

>>16953859
nah it was about all the girls we slutshed back in high school and how that little awkward kid with an 86 is still a virgin

>>16953887
slutshamed*

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>>16953887
Keep dreaming buddeh, try hitting the backroads with some actual friends

>>16953899
>buddeh
You actually disgust me bro

>>16953831
>>16953832

Both of you need to just fuck already.

>>16953904
>I have no argument

>>16953899
>Dat factory rice celica
KEK

>>16953917
No it wasn't an argument, you just sound like a permavirgin.

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>>16953921
Celica was brotier, My neighbor just bought an M3 had some fun around the turns.
>>16953926
Jesus so insecure get over it

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>>16952718
>mfw the wrx is cheaper and faster
>mfw the Honda civic si is cheaper and faster

>>16953963
Civic si matches evenly just a matter of preference with RWD/FWD. WRX is great deal I agree but just not as engaging

>>16953963
>economy cars with sportier engines
>sports car with economy engine
Different target audiences

>>16953970
The wrx has the same engine as the brz but it's turbo instead

Why did subaru charge wrx prices for a cheaper engine? Surely the turbo costs more?

>>16953661
>A stock type r is nowhere to be found and 20k for one with over 100k miles you jackass
>What is importing?

>>16953980
Not an option in burgerland

>>16953970
>WRX
>economy car
You're fucking retarded

>>16953985
Why is it not an option?? You can import in burgerland

>>16953998
Anon, just stop

>>16953823
Uhhhhhh.........

I'll probably get banned for posting a link to CarMax, but here's a 2016 370z base as fuck for under 25k out the door. You can slap an LSD in this and still be under MSRP for a nice toyobaru

If you want to talk out of your ass, better make sure you can't fact check it.

>>16953985
>It's not an option here so it can't be anywhere else
Kill you are self nigger. Enjoy those shit insurance rates and ""18 year old Muhammed"" raping those school children

>>16954005
How many miles on that? Like I said above if I wanted more power I'd get lightly used 07+ 350z
>>16954010
Relax Lucas, I didn't choose where I spawned

>>16953823
The sport package is only 29k

It has a bigger faster engine and gets a way better laptime on nurburgring. If nurburgring isn't twistes and elaborate turns of all kinds I don't know what is

>>16953814
>The 370z does twistes better than the 86
Dude, a k-pop genesis and a v6 mustang run better twistes than the 86.

>>16954026
Honda civic si is cheaper and does twistes better

>>16954026
>buying a genesis or V6 mustang
Wew

Dude, an LS1 swapped Fiat Multipla does twisties better than the 86.

>>16954041
It would probably be cheaper tol

Lol very angry soul parroting what shitposters say
>>16954026
>>16953906

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>>16954020
>If nurburgring isn't twistes
That's either a funny way to spell Tsukuba or long straights. Yes, the turns are elaborate, complex and difficult for the driver, but you can't gain even nearly as much time in the corners as you can on the flat out passages. Power, top speed and getting there fast is more important on the Burgerking than cornering ability.

>>16952718
Works Turbo kit. Superchargers are old hat now due to parasitics from the drive system. If you don't want to figure out how to map turbo systems properly just get their CARB compliant kit which comes with a map you can flash.

>>16952905
Why the fuck would you swap a 4L N/A V8 with no real forced induction and an ECU that has never been cracked? I love the 1UZ but just fucking LS swap it if you want a V8.

>>16953195
R33 had ~330 horsepower (no boost restrictor) for that test probably. Suspension is stiff on the GT-R VSpecs, 4-5 kg/mm is 40-50 N/mm. 55/45 weight distribution is a lot better than the 38/62 distribution in the 993 Turbo or 40/60 in the 996/997 Turbos. Weight is somewhere in the region of 3200 pounds so it was comparable to the 996 Turbo there. Aero was pretty decent for its time, minor front lift and decent rear downforce. AWD + long wheelbase meant it was fairly stable as well.

People kind of underestimate the R33 because it's the "red-headed stepchild" and looks soft/pigfat. But stock it was much faster than the R32. The R34 with the Nismo R1 engine (R34 N1 turbos) was significantly faster than the 996 Turbo.

>>16954248
>Works Turbo kit
Not available/legal in my country. I'll gladly trade a couple kWs for the linear power delivery of a supercharger. I'm an automotive engineer, mapping for a turbo doesn't intimidate me at all, but installing a simple supercharger in front of the engine, instead of a turbo down near the exhaust header to get an acceptable delay, seems orders of magnitude easier. And I don't want to pay someone to do it for me.

>>16952952
>not completely deconstructing your car every time you have to go to TÜF

>>16955852
Police looks under the hood even once and it gets crushed, along with my license and wallet. Young driver in a red exotic sportscar, illegal modifications are an absolute no-go.

>>16956143
ah

sleeper mk3 golf wagon is much less conspicuous

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>>16954018
Carmax #14111648

search that number on their website and it will show it.

2016 370z
26k miles
no accidents
ticketgetter red
23599

I dont hate any cars really, they all have their merits. What is dumb is being stupid about numbers.

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>>16956747
resize fail

>>16953899
Is that Palomares?

>>16952718
>Shit bait

>>16952897
Stock fuel pump is only good for high 200's remember that. Turbo kits usually require more than just the basic suck squeeze blow parts

>>16952889
>Golf
>7:49
What the fuck? How did a golf get a time like that?

>>16956836
Yes, how do you rate it? I'm biased because I live less than 10 miles away but I think a solid 7/10 because minimal cyclists,never any cops or traffic.

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Ya fukt up m8,
>I paid 24,000 USD

>>16958325
You realize the insurance and maintenance premium would kill most people on this board?

>>16958142
It's a good 6 or 7/10 in my book, Redwood is better, imo, but like you said, way more cyclists

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>>16958325
>I paid 24,000 USD
For repairs?

It's funny how /o/ shit on the 86 non-stop and yet so many owners are seen here. Talk about being a cuck!

>>16957441
>Turbo kits usually require more than just the basic suck squeeze blow parts
Obviously, intercooler and oil cooler are a given, might as well get a beefier cooler for the engine while I'm at it, we get pretty hot summers.
As you said, the fuel pump is good for high 200s, but higher than that and a fuel pump will be the cheapest of my problems, considering the clutch and transmission can't take much over 300bhp, not to mention the wear on the high compression engine. TJ Cunt even had to replace the drive shafts on his supercharged BRZ with the built motor.

I very much feel like the 280 to 300 range is the sweet spot, after which you get diminishing returns. It's still stupidly expensive compared to how cheap you get that kind of power in other cars from the factory.

>>16957695
>310bhp
>set up like a racecar
>cup tires
It's horrendously bad anywhere outside the Bürgerking. A friend who owns one of every single gen GTI ever made, a AWD diesel Golf as a DD and has a Golf as a company car wanted to buy a Clubsport. He had the money, but getting to buy one was a lottery. Comparing the time of THAT to a car that's been set up for bumpy backroads with prius tires is absolutely fucking retarded. But yeah, that's why my friend with the 280 bhp hothatch can't keep up with my 86 on the twisties, his car was set up specifically for the Bürgerking as well.

>GT86/BRZ/FRS are slow
>Miata is for girls and closet traps
>Porsche is expensive
>Others are American-built cars

This truly is the darkest timeline

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>>16952889
The Nurburgring is a high speed track, with 200mph+ straight aways, of course the 86 is going to be shit there. It's designed for drifting, or very tight winding tracks.

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>>16952718
>red light racing
oh anon

>>16959232
I can't help but feel like the OP was barely more than a comical representation of how /o/ THINKS the average 86 driver is. I don't think OP even owns the car, or has ever driven it for that matter.

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>made to be a sporty corolla
>ITS NOT FAST XDDD
what did you expect?
when you look at a heavy piece of shit with a garbage reject engine what the fuck did you expect?
maybe if they had made it lighter and not had a flaming dogshit engine in it then it wouldnt be shit but here we are

>>16953236
you reek of butthurt

>>16953627
>FWD

This is how I know you're a busrider.

>>16957695
FF maymay

>>16958325
When I saw the thumbnail I though the posts in the back were like diesel truck exhaust stacks.

>>16952935
No, literally nothing.