help im in a fucked situation had my heart set on an audi rs7

>>16950808
He's the only dealer at the dealership?

What did he do to you?

>>16950815

what do i say? i want to be served by someone else? there were 3 people in there when I went :/

>>16950808
just buy the car and get it financed through an external bank, I'm sure he gets incentives for financing deals.

>>16950825
just kill him, you will be served by another dealer then
also
>byuing a new audi

Just drive a couple hours to the next dealer you beta phaggot

>>16950808
>buying an audi
just don't
Get a Volvo if you want a FWD based AWD premium car. Or better yet, get an AMG CLS63 S 4matic. It has MB's AWD which is much better than Audi's.

https://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/c-class-w204/139684d1221740131-quattro-vs-4matic-4matic1.pdf
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/c-class-w204/139685d1221740131-quattro-vs-4matic-4matic-2.pdf

>>16951967
You know what I love about MB's brochures? They're honest. They even tell you in which aspects the competition does better than themselves. You don't see this from other manufacturers very often.

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Just go to a different dealership.
>inb4 lol too far

I drove from LA to Norman OK to buy a chebby truck because of an insane deal.
>10k off MSRP
>got an LT z71 4x4 5.3 for 27.5k

Get the M4
you can't do skids with the rs7

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>>16950808
>not getting a superior CTS-V for less money

>>16951988
What's the deal with these deals? Are they selling lemons or what?

>>16950827
>borrowing money
You poor or something?

>>16951993
OP this man is speaking a lot of sense explain your poor decision of "german engineering" mumbo jumbo

>>16952037
>not using debt in your advantage
Use bank money and keep yours if the rate is right. Parting with your all your cash at once doesn't have to be a requirement. Sometimes you can get a better deal by financing and using your money to generate more.

>>16950808
rs7 looks nice on the inside and the front. rear looks ugly

m4 looks fantastic all around and on the inside

choice is easy m8

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>>16952050
>this man is speaking a lot of sense
And it's not like it's a little cheaper, it's like 30k cheaper. And you get an interior without an autistic tablet. The design and glossy plastics are questionable but not quite as bad as the Audi's autism.

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>>16952062
>rs7 looks nice on the inside
lmao
literal VW with leather and a tablet

>>16951998
They're the biggest chevy fleet truck seller. They're practically giving away short bed short cab v6s for 19k.

>>16952086
But how do they make profits? It baffles me that they're able to undercut the competition so much. Don't most dealers sell

>>16952086
>>16952094
Don't most dealers sell for around MSRP?

>>16951975
Germans don't take dishonesty lightly.

>>16952302
lol, best joke ever with dieselgate and the cloud of corruption surrounding mostly VAG

>>16952101

When it comes to new cars, dealer make most of their money off of kickbacks and bonuses from the manufacturer and post-sale servicing. They don't really plan on making much money on the sale of the car itself - if that does happen, the salesman gets a nice little commission/bonus himself, which is why you'll have a much easier time getting competitive pricing by going online and cross-shopping with different internet sales departments (they work off of a different comp system).

>>16952430
Interesting. The whole American dealership system is very foreign to me. Here you don't see stuff like haggling when buying brand new, although it's common when buying used from a private seller.

>>16951967
If you have the money to afford a Merc i'd say the same

Why do Audi clutches grab so high?

>>16950808
>so i cant just go and buy an audi from another dealer because the services and all that shit need to be done at the dealer you buy it from.
What kind of shitty country passed a law requiring this?

>>16951967
Audi isn't fwd based, except for the A3, is longitudinal front engine with 2 drive shafts just like all actual AWD systems. Or is there something I don't know?

>>16952763
torqueless shit boxes

>>16953018
The cars are literally engineered with FWD in mind, which results in the engine being way over the front axle and nothing but understeer

>>16952728
If he can afford an Audi he can afford a Benz. BTW being able to afford is more than just being able to buy.

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>>16950808
>buying an Audi

The only thing worse is a Mazda

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>>16954800
>implying Audi is more expensive to maintain than MB

>>16951993
Cadilax look like shit and have a shit stereotype. Rather drive a tsunami raped totalled diahtsu Mira than a Cadillac.

>>16954915
>much less reliable
>equally expensive to repair
>more of a pain in the ass to work on

>>16954915
but they are, about 20% more expensive
http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer/AvgRep

>>16952069
holy shit that doesn't look half bad. much better than the germans who forgot that their car needed an ipad and just glued one on at the top

>>16954916
Get out of /o/ some time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WKgSCPqY4M

>>16950808
>even considering a VW partsbin special with a luxury car price tag
kys

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>>16954915
even if the average maintenance weren't as expensive as a MB you'd get higher costs on the audi due to more repairs. pic related.

audi a fucking shit

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>>16954942
Wow, ditching Chrysler really did wonders for MB didn't it?

>>16954942
Why is Porsche the only brand that truly lives up to the "German = quality" meme?

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>>16954942
>>16954963
I don't get it. According to reviews Porsche is either utterly unreliable or one of the most reliable brands on this planet. Given the recent VW scandal, I bet Porsche is into shady things.

>>16954996
German TÜV says they are the most reliable cars.

>>16954996
>recent VW scandal
Diesel Porsches are almost nonexistant

>>16955013
>how do i reading comprehension

>>16954996
some of the reliability surveys are weighted by repair cost. when a porsche breaks it will on average cost you more to repair it when a civic breaks so that bumps it down the order

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>>16955012
>>16955013
Not him, but his point is that VW is utterly corrupt and they buy awards regularly

>>16954996
It might depend on if the statistic factors in the price of the repairs. Porsches break rarely if theyre maintained properly, but if they do youre paying a lot.

>>16955048
this

>>16951967

how is Mercedes AWD system better than Audi's?

Quattro has been perfected from YEARS of AWD history as well as legendary automotive rally racing history which has led to amazing systems for the entire VW group.

>>16956938
Did you even read the links?

>>16956938
>how is Mercedes AWD system better than Audi's?
Superior traction, handling and safety. Audi has better dynamics though.

>>16955048
you got a source on that? also fuck you VAG

>>16952308
Jews, on the other hand, take to lying like a duck to water

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>>16956938
look son, another victim of VAG's marketing lies

>>16953644
That's to provide more interior space, these aren't sports cars kiddo

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>>16961671
Funny because MB, BMW, Jaguar, RR, Bentley and many others don't need to resort to that bullshit.
They're forced to do that compromise because it's a FWD based design, so the axle gets pushed back and so do the wheel wells. And because they have to make provisions to accommodate for the AWD drive shaft that the AWD versions have, you also get the disadvantages of RWD with the bump in the middle. In short, Audi offers the worst of both worlds.

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>>16961671
>RS7
>RS
>these aren't sports cars
>kiddo

>>16952094
>>16952101
>>16952450
idk about american dealerships but it's usually a 50% markup to MSRP so they can drop it withing that margin.

>>16961784
wew lad