/ccg/-Classic Car General Vegas edition A thread devoted to

>>16935884
I straightened out the cable and operation from within the car seems to work now.

Thanks guys. I know it's a simple thing but fixing it made me feel good about myself.

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The 302 is in, running, and running well.

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>>16935974
kek, what did he do?

>>16935982
Reverse two plug wires, iirc.

This is not how you do a firing order swap.

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>>16935982
>>16935985
Probably reversed more than two, he read the diagram upside down. All good now, though, doesn't seem like he damaged anything.

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Dumping some automotive pornography to get this party started.

Normally not a big fan of LUVs, but fuck me does this one look mean.

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>>16936048
Normally not a big fan of wagons, but fuck me does this one look mean.

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>>16936056
And this one.

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>>16936056
I can convert you

>>16936048
>>16936056
>>16936080
>automotive pornography
More like crack whore snapshots.

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>>16936081

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>>16936083
Different strokes for different folks, I like em' with scars, grit, and stories.

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>>16936081
Sometimes I wonder why I have so many wagons saved on my computer, maybe I'm just in denial.

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>>16935942
>tfw you live in Vegas and see remnants of the cool, stylish, somewhat more wholesome classic Vegas era
>now it's an awful place that thrives on taking money from retarded foreigners and californians
>any remnants of class have been completely washed away and replaced with absurd levels of degeneracy and consumerism

>The California Casino in that picture is now in a shit-tier part of the city
>I had to go in the abandoned hotel across the street from it for a job
>the high rise is filled with trash, drug needles and vandalized rooms
>also some weird dressed-up mannequins that some insane person set up to scare people

This place is trash. I wish the mafia would come back.

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How hard is it to make smogmuscle good?

>400cui
>180hp
>17 second 1/4 mile

>>16936198
It really isn't.

Aluminum heads, a nice mild cam, bump compression to 9.5:1. It'll probably double output.

>>16936198
check forums specific to that car. there should be a guide to removing the smog pumps and the other controls strangling it.

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>>16936198
Depends on your skill set and budget. One of the more popular Pontiac smog-era heads is the big valve large chamber 6X casting which might very well have come on those particular Lemans, I don't remember off the top of my head. But shave the heads, get a head gasket with a smaller crush thickness, run a pretty nasty cam (big engines tend to "tame" more radical camshafts) and valve springs that can take it- The stock Pontiac dual plane intake is pretty good, just port match the gaskets, block the heat risers in the heads. If you're so inclined you can spring for like a Holley carb (700cfm thereabouts). Or the more budget minded approach would be jamming on the Quadrajet (rebuild with a typical kit, hog out the fuel bowl crossover, play with jets/metering rods). Snag a used set of long tube headers, bump the timing forward a little bit and fuel it with 93.

These are the best threads on /o/.

I've been looking at remanufacturing companies like dynacorn, they look nice in theory, but my god the prices start to climb quickly if you wanted to build a whole car using them. A 9k chassis quickly jumps to a 40k rolling chassis with all exterior trim pieces but no interior or drivetrain

>>16937117
or just put a fittec on it instead of a carb

>>16937462
http://fitechefi.com/

>>16937462
Expensive in and of itself, requires a high pressure electric fuel pump which entails modifying the existing basket or fabricating something to accept the electric pump in the tank which is slightly dicey work for the uninitiated (or blow the budget entirely and go with an aeromotive tank with a pump already in it)- And all ultimately for a marginal improvement (maybe) over a well-tuned carburetor.

>>16937494
Or I suppose you could go external pump but those are also rather pricey, still require modifying the tank, and if not mounted and plumbed properly the pump will die.

>>16937494
it may be a bit pricey but I found it relatively easy to install.
Maybe for a complete novice this would be difficulty but for the average car guy it is not that hard.

>>16937581
I've found it safer to assume everyone including people who say they're experienced are novices- But it was less any actual difficulty I was getting at when I said "dicey" but that grinding/brazing what have you on a tank that once had gasoline in it is an uncertain affair.

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I posted this in the other thread not knowing there was a new one. My Impala is finally done! I could only be more psyched if I wasn't stuck at work until Sunday.

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Finally got my bumper sticker lol

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>>16937713
That tailpipe is hilarious.

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>>16937707
Gorgeous.

>>16937938
Yeah, it had no muffler when I bought it, so I picked up a cheap cherry bomb and slapped it on lol. I'll be rerouting it across the back when I get around to it.

>Roll over a speed bump or large pothole
>PING

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>tfw haven't driven my beuehk in 2 or 3 weeks

Feels Bad. I got my front disk brake conversion kit and everything in the mail, but I don't have two days to install for another week..

>>16938034

Very cool car, my man.

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I guess ill post my shitbox again
I bought this for 7k at an auction. Original owner from Canada and had never restored it. Paint was like new and the interior was almost perfect. They put in a supertuner II in the 80's sadly but thats a gem in itself. The crome is pretty shot but I have felt no need to ever replace it, I like this car how it is, unrestored.
Its a 350 rocket (non ramrod) bore is 4.057 and stroke is 3.385 compression ratio is 10.88:1. It was rated at 310 bhp factory but over the years I bet that has sharply dropped. My cam sounds old and tired and the car is going nowhere fast.

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>>16936056

>>16938201
Damn, I guess I should go to an auction.

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>>16938485
Its rolling the dice I just got lucky on what I got. I have seen people get screwed with auction cars before. Just know what you are looking fore before hand and do tons of research on that to make sure you are getting what you pay for.

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>tfw its friday night and i dont have anywhere 2 go

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>>16938525
At least its not snowing and your classic is tucked away for warmer weather.

>>16938525
>TFW rainy
>TFW wipers are fucked
>TFW doesn't matter anyway because I haven't taken the time to sort out the starting issue
Time to kms

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>>16938547
at least your classic is in one piece

>>16938579
'74 or '75 camaro?

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>>16938579
Not even close its a '78 ws6 trans am.
The pic is a few months old but I have not done much work except take off the airbox, brake booster and master cylinder as well as the steering, clutch and other bits and bobs. plan on taking off the subframe and glass soon.

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>>16938591
FUCK I responded to myself instead of you

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Moar Haybinder

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This was the durdiest car I have ever cleaned. It had dog poop, rat poop, coon poop, human poop (no shit) and unidentifiable poop. as well as a mountain of mice corpses and garbage that was thrown in the car. I went through two cans of lacquer thinner to sanitize this thing and its still grotty.
Pic of the cleanest part

>>16938614
Now, c'mon Camaro and Firebird have a lot of shared parts. Most of what is in the pic could be either car. I didn't think those were Pontiac motor mounts so I had to guess Camaro.

I have a '69 Firebird 400.

>>16938647
I missed those Pontiac wheels..

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>>16938646

Oh fuck me. Is it worth it? What model?

I had a 65 Dart I bought for $1000 that I had to clean lots of mouse shit and nests out of. It never smelled right, but it was fun to fix up and helped me finance the repairs to my Impala once I sold it.

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>>16938647
Not judging they had a lot of common parts throughout the years but the sway bar should have given it away. I have a pontiac 400 w72 in this thing but one cylinder is pretty shot.
I always love people with Pontiacs and more specifically firebirds, I would love pics of your ride.

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>>16938670
I don't have a stock picture of it, I'll have to take a picture tomorrow in the daylight. Best I can do is this one - it's beside the Ford convertible in this pic.

>>16938670
I don't know second generation well enough to have known about the sway bar.

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>>16938682
nice m8 im waiting
This is the oil that was in the car
It looked like cum when it came out and the frightful discovery that the carb was off this car and it fucking rain water got in.
>>16938666
got it for 3k with no rust except the floorpans where rain got in and pool'd. funny enough they spilled a can of grease that saved the drivers side from rusting.

Can anyone help with carburetor issues? More specifically quadrajet. I'm looking to try and fix this before going for a Holley double pumper.

>>16938773
https://www.amazon.com/Rebuild-Modify-Rochester-Quadrajet-Carburetors/dp/1932494189
These books are comfy and are good for learning about your carb and how to fix issues with them. Try and find a pdf and learn :)

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>>16938738

3k for a literal shitmobile? I dunno, bro.

This is my comfy general I go on to chill out. You guys always seem like you love each other's cars and are truly interested in them. There is normally no GM BTFO or other shit memes and arguing and you keep kit Kat contained for the most part. I have thought of buying a classic just to feel like I can post instead of just lurk. Someday.... Someday....

>>16938773
What's going on or what problems are you having?

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>>16938802
>literal shitmobile
100 keks
3k For a 78 ws6 with no rust is actually a good deal. It is also a borg warner 4 speed on top of being a ws6 w72 car so it is a valuable car. It is just going to take alot of love.

>>16938817

Fuck off, we're full.

Nah, I'm kidding. Buy a beater and join the club. But honestly, it's an illness that rarely ends with you owning just one classic.

It also causes you to curse and bleed and spend every penny you've got, so be warned.

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>>16938738
Flash pic in the dark, keep it covered up because of old window seals and water getting under the vinyl roof. I took the 400 hood and bumper off so they would not get damaged.
Factory disc brakes, deluxe interior, YT code 400 RA3, Rally wheels, cruise control.
Had it for 20 years, gone over 100k miles in it.
I keep a heavy duty trash bag over the engine to prevent rain from getting into the engine, the hood badges leak water.

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>>16938837

I believe you. But I'm not riding in the shitmobile.

>>16938817

See:

>>16938847

As proof of the illness I speak of.

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>>16938789
>>16938773
I'll post pics anyway. I rebuilt a SBC350, and an M4MC Rochester quadrajet. I got a rebuild kit from carbkitsource. It included a lot of new stuff. I replaced the Jets, among other things. Didn't replace the float. Didn't replace the metering rods. The car will start, and sputter and snort but will run, albeit a little stumbly. Soon after, maybe 15 seconds of running, the carb will start dripping fuel out the sides down into the intake valleys.

It's definitely not the plugs, those look good. I adjusted the float once, bending it so while the bowl fills, it will close the valve or whatever sooner. That helped slightly, but it still leaked after a time. Did it again, with the float nearly straight, and it helped a tiny bit more, but still leaks.

Do you think the float is just bad and not floating anymore? Can I just take off the airhorn and fill the bowl with fuel to see if it's job is being performed? I'm not sure what to do. Pics related, where the leaks SEEM to be coming from

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So I heard this was the Pontiac thread?

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>>16938874
>>16938825
That picture is the passenger side, by the choke. That arrow is pointing to where the fuel drips from on that side. Coming from that linkage and coming down that way.

This pic is drivers side, circled where it seems to be leaking from still

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>>16938847
Thanks a ton bro love the car, my dad used to own one that was silver that got him into being a pontiac enthusiast.
If you ever are able to go to PSMCDR there are a ton of firebird enthusiast that would love your ride.
Hope to keep you guys posted on my progress but college makes it hard to get home to work on it.
(pic of pop's GOAT at the drags)

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>>16938871
Yep, I got the disease..
'64 LeMans convertible, '66 Tempest Safari wagon in the garage, '69 Firebird 400, '70 LeMans safari wagon with 335HP 400.

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>>16938817
Classics aren't all expensive to own. Some can even be relatively cheap!
>>16938878
Definitely just a Chevrolet thread

>>16938891

Hey, it's better than heroin.

>>16938880
If it's leaking out around the throttle shafts, it is flooding (needle valve and seat)

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>>16938817
Buy a corvair for a cheap good classic
But pontiac will always be bae....so 61 tempest?

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>>16938874
>>16938880
If you didn't replace the accelerator pump, that's generally the first thing I jump to when dealing with a stumble. If you just replaced like gaskets, needle and seat but didn't blow out the main circuit, that's another possible explanation for the stumble. As for the leaking, a gasket may have gotten pimped when you put it back together, there's also a known issue with the well-plugs on Qjets where they were mounted for casting in the factory, they'll develop a leak and just piss fuel. Simply epoxying these is a good way to go for fixing that, and that's what I'd put my money on for leakage problem.

>>16938871
>>16938896
So for about 4k what can I expect. I have money for a new car to replace my econobox but I have no idea what to look for in a classic or if I'm getting screwed.

>>16938817

I bought my Dart on eBay for $1000, had it on the road in a month. Would've been sooner, but I kept getting the wrong fucking parts for the brakes.

>>16938929

4k is a great starting point. I bought my 1965 Impala for 3800, road ready, and my 1969 International Harvester for 3500, road ready. Take a peek at Craig's list, you'll find something you like, no doubt. Most people will dicker, too.

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>>16938929
Classics are an illness you buy one then cant stop. I wasted my college fund on >>16938201
and then found this >>16938614 and couldn't help myself now I am in serious shit and need to sell off my 69.
Just remember one is enough and corvair is always the answer to budget classics

>>16938929
4k is the asking price for my '69 Firebird, most common year, lots of them around. hard to find one that has been left stock though.

Problem is it needs a lot of rust repair. Good mechanical condition, would drive it anywhere so long as it doesn't rain!

>>16938929
Depending on where you live, I wouldn't make a classic a daily. If you're south and won't face a snowy winter, then you're fine.

And as far as what to expect, it really depends on your area. Find a car that interests you. Look around. Learn about it BEFORE you buy it. With cars these old it will be easy to figure it out.

>>16938906
I believe I changed the seats. Maybe I need new needles. Is there anything to the seats besides tightening them? Does orientation matter?
>>16938924
I did replace the accelerator pump, and it does work. I can manually move it and see fuel come up when I have the airhorn off.


I guess I could say the throttle doesn't really do much with the engine. It doesn't really seem to cause it to Rev higher or anything, just stays alive

>>16938969
>I believe I changed the seats. Maybe I >need new needles. Is there anything to >the seats besides tightening them? >Does orientation matter?

Needle and seat are matched, you change them together. Since you changed the seat I can safely guess you have a Rochester (and not a Carter).
Orientation? Just tight. And there is a little ring gasket that goes under it.
It's flooding, and drowns the engine, we all have that happen with old carburetors, welcome to the club.
If you park it for a while, I had one car that the carb will flood when it first fills with fuel and then if you let it sit for a half-hour then it will not flood.
Get a kit from NAPA, they will want the number (something like 7029268 or 7040262), will usually be found stamped into the fuel bowl assembly toward the back of the carb by the secondary on the left side.

>>16939017
I see the carb number in your pic, looks like it ends with 203. Probably 404?203 chevy carb number.

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>>16938878
I'm liking this theme anyone else got any more Pontiacs?

>>16939038
704?203 .. 7040203 is 1970 300HP 350CI stock carb. That fourth number is the last number of the model year.

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>>16939048
Better pic of my Lemans convertible daily driver.
Has over 550k miles, owned 33 years.

>>16939052
It's a 1977 Corvette.

>>16939063

You are my fucking hero. Bravo, man.

>>16939080
>>16939017
And yes, Rochester.

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>>16939063
Fuck i dont know which one of our dailys eats more gas.
Love the cars dude, Pontiac is love.

>>16939088
>>16939052
>>16939038
>>16939017
This appears to be it.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/CRB25795A

But where are the needles?

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This thread needs more chebby

>>16939082
7045203 Rochester R4-M4MC, that's probably it.
1975 Chevy Camaro Malibu Chevelle 350 with 4 speed trans.

>>16939119
Lower left, by all those little ring gaskets.

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Can't wait to take some pictures with the new paint job.

>>16939129
My kit has those, but they don't look at all like the stock needles.

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>>16939105
The old '64 LeMans 326 can give me between 20 and 21 MPG on extended highway trips. 14-16 in town, worse in winter.

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>>16939121
FUCK CHEVY THIS IS A PONTIAC THREAD
(but seriously chevy had its time before the emissions act of 70 then pontiac took the lead...until the 301 and 305 corporate then everyone was slow)

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Maine is such a fickle bitch. Yesterday they said we were getting 16 inches of snow Saturday, today they changed it to less than 1 inch.

Which I'm totally fine with, by the way. Fuck snow.

>>16939146

I like Pontiacs, but I don't own one aside from my 05 Bonneville, so

FUCK YOU BUDDY

>>16939142
If they fit in the seat and seal, and the seat threads into the fuel bowl and also fits up to the float, then you're good.

>>16939145
My gear ratios are set up for drag so I get shit gas mileage 8mpg....thank god I live on campus and only need to drive a mile to my internship.
I am just impressed that you still daily a car that gets that gas mileage. I tip my hat at you for keeping the dream alive.

>>16939146
I have a station wagon with that very same engine and a 3.90 axle ratio. Can pass anything in the short passing zones here in the Arkansas Ozarks.

>>16939168
I guess I'm just confused how they'll connect to the power valve thing. I'll have to take a look.

>>16939235
The float mounts to the air horn section with that thick bent over piece of wire, the needle hangs from the little tab on the float by that little wire clip and the seat threads into the fuel bowl section. You can't run the car with the top off of it. The only carbs I know of that you can run with the air horn off are Ford Motorcraft 2100 and 4100.
Power valve is the vacuum operated plunger thingie that changes the primary mixture when the intake vacuum falls below a certain amount. Looking at a parts carb here that's what operates the primary metering rods.
Needle valve and float is not connected to anything else, it just regulates the level of fuel in the fuel bowl.
It is possible that your float is filling with fuel though very unlikely. You would notice liquid in it, should probably check just to be sure when you open the carb.

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>>16938614
Best nose. 77 also I believe?
>>16938837
That actually is a solid deal.

Digging the Pontiac theme. My dream car, one day I'll own one of these. Black on black on black, 4 speed, power steering, either or on AC.

>>16936198
You need the 4-barrel intake, large valve heads, carb and cam for a 1967-70 400 engine. Good heads are expensive now. Compression in a Pontiac is determined by the heads. Milling your heads will not gain you much before you will have to deal with the bolt holes in the intake not lining up.
Get rid of the EGR intake and get a carb or change yours over to the leaner mix for a non EGR setup.

Pontiac heads were reconfigured for 1967, don't try to use earlier heads. They fit but the valve chamfers in the block are in the wrong place and also problems like missing bolt holes for the exhaust manifolds and different size ports for the exhaust crossover that goes under the carb.

Pre 1967 Pontiac 4 barrels were for Carter Thermo-quad and those intakes do not fit Q-jets.

>>16937117
...and then bend or break something in the bottom end?

>>16939462
Maybe the pushrods. They don't like high-lift cams and increased rate valve springs.
After lengthy service you might remove pistons that are cracked through in several places, held bailed together by the rings, common in the high compression Pontiac builds.

UNLIMITED PONTIAC WORKS

>>16939462
Nah, not throwing nitrous or something at it. Tune the timing on it, always keep 93 octane in it. If you stay out of knock, you'll be hard pressed to break something bottom end even in an old engine.
>>16939500
Pontiacs run a 1.6 ratio rocker arm stock so they're easier on the pushrods, you can also run a cam with "less" lobe and still get a lot of lift. Would be a slight roll of the dice, but hardened pushrods wouldn't be a waste of money.

the fucking fuel rail won't stay seated on one of my fuel injectors. help.

>>16939148
That ih is fucking cool. Glad you like it. What are your plans or just drive it as is?

>>16939401
>Pre 1967 Pontiac 4 barrels were for Carter Thermo-quad and those intakes do not fit Q-jets
They're for Rochester 4GCs not Thermoquads.

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>>16939708
well thatd explain it. shame i had to take off the intake again to get to it.

Is it back?

OH PRAISE THE GOD-CHEETO, /O/ IS BACK

So many posts were lost...
I reckoned they would actually drag the joke out longer.

>>16940673
hiroshimoot a shit. bring back snacks.

>>16940718
/mlpol/ should be a thing though.
/pol/ was buttraged too the moon kek

>spraying rubber undercoating over a piece of cloth to create a cheat "fiberglass" for small rust hole repair.

Damn Allpar got some tricks.

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Fiat really does stand for fix it again Tony. I finally got this thing running enough to use as daily driver. Tank has nastiness in it and is full of vinegar atm. 45 miles per gallon and 37 hp

>>16940837
Do cops give you shit for that?

>>16940839
Not yet. I can't legally pump gas in my state and the guy working the pump complained about "usually the can has to be on the ground" hope I can go back to internal tank in a week or two

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This is the tailgate I bought for the International.

Also, fuck that whole thing that happened yesterday.

>>16940837
Damn the memories. The hairdresser in my town had one of those, he bought it brand new in the early 60's. Still ran until 10 years ago when he retired and flew out of town.

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Been dumping money into this thing

>>16941005

That is all kinds of awesome, got any more pics?

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>>16941012

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>>16936150

>>now it's an awful place that thrives on taking money from retarded foreigners and californians

Vegas was always that. Not to sperg out but it's why UP continued their LA-Vegas Aerotrain services through the early 1960s, because it was their only passenger line which made money.

>>any remnants of class have been completely washed away and replaced with absurd levels of degeneracy and consumerism

Again, that's what Vegas is. Embrace it and enjoy it.

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Any other F body guys here? I'm thinking about doing an olds 455 swap at some point but first I need to get some more work done on her. All I got left to fix are power windows, probably putting in a "vintage air" ac system and cosmetic stuff like small interior stuff and paint.

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>yank steering column apart to replace gear selector
>rekt steering column bearing
>turn signal switch self destructed
>finally get the selector in place and tightened down
>realized i could have just stuck it in the back and rotated it without even having to take the wheel off.

>>16941893
Dare you to run a Trophy 4.

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Picked her up today. I couldn't be happier.

anyone have any experience with those aftermarket mustang 2 front end clips? I'm kinda looking at one from streetrodengineering to save up for that's like 3.5k and comes with disk brakes, power steering, and a sway bar. i figure most of those things separately would add up to about half that anyway.

how much does it cost to have a shop install a front clip? I'm not proficient enough at welding to trust myself doing that kind of work. also how much does it help with handling?

car is a 50 ford tudor

>>16941941
>That paint
>Dog dish hubcaps
>Black wheels
I'm jelly. Nice car. Sick 283?

>>16941893
>olds 455
Why not a Poncho 455?

>>16941941
>60's car
>clearcoat
into the trash it goes

>>16942020

Yes sir.

>>16942044
It currently has an olds 403 in it so I wanted to make it a bit more simpler and put another olds engine in it.

>>16942056
>wants to have to repaint every 7 years

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>>16938958
With the sheer amount of money spent on my piles of shit in the past 5 years i could have owned a fucking mansion on some beach.

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>>16942239
and here's my latest 'investment'.

>>16942071
>what is wax

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>>16941893
why not just keep the w72? It is a great engine that with a little work can make massive power.
maybe invest in a new windshield first

>>16942069
shit saw that you said it had the 403, meh it was an ok engine but I would go out and find a w72. In 79 they were used for half the year because they had extras from 78 lying around so it would still be year matching.
I have a graet book on how to mod these engines for top performance but it was written in 82 and i need to go find it.

>>16942246
>>16942239
As soon as I get paid on Thursday, I'm renting a storage unit and beginning the build for the ferd. Once I get the unit, I'm going a 302 to strip down

>>16942359
That book would be pretty interesting to look at. Also that picture was old and I already got the windshield replaced.

>>16942521
ya i have about 1000000 papers so i might take awhile to find. SA did another book more recently but I find it to be not as good.
The 403's were mostly used because the w72 did not pass emissions in some states *cali* cough* the L80 Oldsmobile made about 40 horse less than the W72 and was not optioned in the borg warner 4 speed. They were also much heavier than the Pontiac 400.

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>>16942580
That makes since since mine is an automatic. also kinda cool that it also has 4 wheel disc brakes. I also noticed on my 403 it has a "performer" 350 intake and 4A heads. I'm curious as to how much performance loss I'm getting and also why the hell the original owner put a smaller cfm intake on the engine.

Join AAA my dudes, I just got my first month free and a 10 percent discount at the storage facility for being a member. That means more money to buy the 302

>>16942676
403 and 350 intakes are the same, meh 4As are not great for compression, I would put 5's on.

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>>16936080

>That 58 Wagon

Holy fuck my dick

>>16943069
That paint looks killer. How much did it run you?

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>>16943075

$3200 for body and paint

$250 for trunk pans, $390 to remove/replace the windshield and rear window.

It was his last job before retirement, so he gave me a good deal. I was getting ready to budget 3 times what I paid.

>>16943091
wow black was a good choice

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>>16943097

Thanks. I really couldn't be happier with the results. I have to bring it back in a month or so for a final buff, but it looks great as is.

>>>/wsg/1622524

If you want to hear the exhaust.

>>16943069
Too bad it's a four door. Hope this gives you an excuse to enjoy it and actually drive it

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>>16943514

>Le four door meme

You must be a boomer. Enjoy dying in the next couple years.

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Would anyone know what style air cleaners 440 Challengers came with in 1970?

I found one similar to pic related and thought it was a challenger one but on closer inspection the snorkels are far apart and different lengths so I wasn't sure if it's correct for a '70 Challenger. But I can't find what air cleaner was used in non 6 pack Challengers.

4-door? I don't care- it's a piece of Americana. Nicely done- from the former owner of a 4-door Chevelle.

>>16943571
The R/Ts at least came with a black filter with a orange cap with the words "MAGNUM"

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Page 4 bump

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Carb issues guy here.

I took the float off and adjusted it. I took the needle and pressed it into the seat to see if it could seal properly, and it does, albeit after a couple bumps of the starter it kind of forces out some gas, but I expect that as the fuel pump is pushing the gas through.

I should mention that I built up this engine, so I'd say that there is less vacuum being generated. So the primary needles/power valve aren't being held down enough by the vacuum. I've found I can get lighter springs to compensate for that.

Also, what gasket should be on the bottom of the carb? I have both a thin one and a very thick one. Do I also need the thick one, I'm just using the thin one on the bottom.

So the gas still floods out. Both sides. I got another picture. Right at the bottom of the choke linkage is where it leaks. On the other side it leaks from the throttle linkage. My only guess is either through the choke part that goes into the carb or between where the airhorn meets the midsection of the carb. My gut says the latter, as the gas comes out of the seat pretty strongly, flowing out of the fuel bowl.

So I guess try another seat/needle?
I apologize for the poor formatting, phoneposting

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>>16943525
I turned 21 last week. I could buy a much more affordable 4 door classic, but instead I waited and checked CL daily for the perfect deal to pop up.

Probably 80% done restoring it. Finished painting engine bay today and hope to drop in motor sometimes in the next 4 months

>>16944725
is the float metal or plastic? Have you tested to see if it actually floats?

Are you using a mechanical fuel pump or electric? You might need a pressure regulator if it's electric and that'd explain your flooding.

If the surfaces on the bottom of carb and top of intake are both clean and smooth either gasket will be fine.

>>16944769
It's the nitrophyl, like the very dense foam kind. And the pump is mechanical. But I did put in a new cam, so maybe it's creating more pressure. Is that possible?

>>16944937
New cam wouldn't change fuel pressure

>>16944985
Then I'm just lost on what is causing this flooding. How would gas get through there? This was a carb that was working perfectly when I took it off, then after taking it apart and getting a rebuild kit it does this.

I watched several videos many times and made sure I have everything correct. I'm just trying to fix this myself before I send it in to some repair service. I appreciate the help, thank you

>>16945021
when in doubt, pull it all apart again and go through it to make sure you didn't miss something. Make sure absolutely everything is tight and in the right place

>>16945040
I suppose it couldn't hurt. Thanks for your advice

Holy shit, this might be the nicest thread on all of /o/. For that reason and some other reverent ones, I feel comfortable enough to ask a few questions.

I want to start learning more about vehicles, I can do the bare basics like an oil change, filters change, tires change, and a few other things like changing brake pads, but not much else. I heard older/classic cars are mechanically simpler than today's cars, so I figured they would be a logical candidate to tinker on.

Next up, how feasible would it be to own and DD a classic in the NE region? Specifically SW PA. Rust is a real bitch here, and I imagine I would need 2 engines for legal purposes (350 SBC w/carb would fail sniffers hard-core right?). Also garage garaging the vehicle might be a bit tough, but possible if need be. As far as budget, I'm thinking 4K to 6K depending on things over the summer.

Thanks in advance if anyone replies.

>>16945215
DD a classic is as easy as DDing anything else! They are reliable enough, cheap enough, sturdy enough. Now, don't get a nice car and expect to drive it in the winter. Just my opinion, but it depends on what you want out of the car. A long life? Something to learn on? Ask yourself what purpose it will fill with how you enjoy cars. It seems silly, but sorting this stuff out now will help on much later.

As for smog purposes, check your local/state laws. I live somewhere without any smog checks outside of federally mandated ones(cats, etc). A lot of classic cars are exempt either based on age, or never coming with the smog tech from the factory. Don't just assume it's all going to be pass or no pass. Exemption is a real thing.

4-6k is perfect to find something that is in decent shape and should run fine.

Also, what kinds of cars do you like? 2 door? 4 door? RWD? FWD? AWD? Do you want a lot of room inside, or don't mind being cramped?

>>16945433
Thanks for the reply, I'm stupid and forgot that classics are usually emissions exempt anyways. I'm mainly looking for something to learn on, as well as build an engine for. I have the 350 SBC on my mind, so I did a small amount of research and found you can build them yourself for a modest budget (or a near nonexistent one if junkyards are generous). Basically I was planning on lots of Summit trips to drool on parts for it, because I'm a bit weary of junkyards.

As for the actual car itself, I'm not particularly picky, but something that seats 4 (passengers in back can be crammed, I myself prefer a bit of room) would be ideal. For reference as to my "taste", I've always been partial to '70's Chargers and Challengers. Think Dom' s Dad's Charger in the original Fast and Furious.

I would prefer FWD as well, but I believe a lot of the cars made back in the day were mostly RWD right? If so, that's fine.
Thanks for being so helpful by the way, this seriously is the nicest thread on /o/

>>16945519
The cooler the car, the more expensive the car my man, just keep that in mind.
My recommendation is just to check your local Craigslist and use the filters to filter out anything pre 1975

>>16945519
Where exactly do you live? I'll scan Craigslist

i got spurs that jingle jangle jingle ( jingle jangle!)

>>16945519
>350
>FWD
These two only mix with extensive modification. As for FWD classics...
Late 60's Olds Toronado, Cadi Eldorado, late 70's Omni.

>>16945748
if you have someone who wants a cheap, easy to work on car to learn this stuff, the best bet would be something like a datsun B210 or first gen civic or something like that. Or even an old golf even though it will never work

>>16945215
>>16945519
when i started i knew almost nothing about cars but always had love to old cars or cars in general and also had a good technical understanding.
with 21 a bought a 66 impala which was kind of a shitbox. a year and a half later i bought an 67 impala 4 door and never could be happier.

as for the wrenching, a car from the 60s is quite easy. you have enough room to work on, simple mechanics, and almost none electronic besides of ignition, light and radio (any maybe stuff like powerwindows and such) but its still realy simple. For the problems which occured i just googled most of the time. I bought the manuals which gets a shit ton of information and i just researched every step that i did.
if you got time in the evening, just watch some videos about changing drumbrakes instead of porn and youre good to go, and so on with other stuff. get contact who drive these cars too, go to meetings and on

i dont use this car as a daily, because i simple cant afford it. since that i live in germany gas is quite expensive. and i also wouldnt drive it here because parts are expensive and other people are dicks on the road. and the streets are build for small german cars so i often have problems finding parking spots and stuff like that.

>>16944725
>Also, what gasket should be on the bottom of the carb? I have both a thin one and a very thick one. Do I also need the thick one

Use the thick one, especially going into summer.

>>16945680
>>16945693
>>16945748
>>16945755
>>16945876
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I'm less than half an hour from Pittsburgh, that's including highway 376 traffic. Beaver county PA

I'm comfortable with getting a RWD car, I was expecting it honestly. I thought the vast majority of cars that were before the 90's were RWD. No data or anything to back that up, just my general newbie observations.

>>16943514
I'd take a four door Impala over a two door.

>>16946011
Remember this, most problems will end up being electrical.
A Detroit drivetrain can outlive you and if you freshen it up, i mean people used to daily these cars, there's no reason you can't either.

>>16946011
>I thought the vast majority of cars that were before the 90's were RWD

Well, you're not really wrong. Up until the '80s, even econoshitboxes were RWD: things like the Datsun 210, Chevette, Pinto.

But then imports. Things like the Honda Civic, Toyota Tercel, Dodge Omni, and the VW Rabbit. There's a huge grey area from ~1985 until about 1995 where full- and mid-size cars shifted over to FWD. Not really so much for Chrysler, I think they made their last RWD car besides the Viper in about 1989 or so.

So uh, I guess my point is:
>'80s compact/subcompact = FWD
>'80s mid-size = could be either
>'80s full size = RWD

>>16938201
thats not a shitbox, dude...

>>16938635
i was so close to buying one of these

So /ccg/ and specifically mopar guys, is he on point with this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHxamkMisfo

>>16942364
as a fellow 302 owner, do me a favor and take pictures of fucking everything. itd be really cool to have an archive of images all in one place as reference material in the future.

>>16946254
His glossing over of the six pack means he's a piece of shit furfag cunt

>>16946275
Gloss over the six pack how? Also,

>furfag

lolwat

>>16946287
>Gloss over the six pack how?
He made it sound like a piece of shit, A 440 six pack was Chrysler's top dog.

>>furfag

>lolwat

RCR is a furfag, you didn't know this?

>>16946308
I kinda figured that's what you were getting at- With such a wanted for option being passed off as basically "just six holes."

And no, I didn't know, when/where did that come out?

>>16946317
>And no, I didn't know, when/where did that come out?
Idk where it first leaked, supposedly his fursona is Kutztown dragon or some shit.

>>16945923
>Use the thick one, especially going into summer.
What is the reasoning behind this?

>>16946323
Fuck that I don't want to believe that.

>>16946349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqtriBKIdgY
Better start believeing it, faggot

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>>16946349
I dunno m8

>>16946340
It insulates the carb from the heat of the manifold. Helps prevent your float bowl from boiling over.

If you live in Arizona or southern California it might be a good idea to block the exhaust crossover as well. If there was a propane version of that engine, those intake gaskets should block it.

>>16946354
>>16946358

God damn it.

>tfw your vehicle is too loud to even be started without waking people up

i just want to be sure shit's not leaking god dammit.

>>16946317
he explained why it's called a six pack he didn't "gloss over it". Why would he dwell on a option the car he's reviewing wasn't ordered with?

>>16946270
No problem. I'll try my best and probably will need to

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I figured I should post here, since I've only really been posting it in night wave threads, also reposting from /mo/.

>rolled my 1970 beetle at autocross
>cracked a piece of the transaxle
>bent a wheel
>ruined the body
later
>bought a rusty 1972 with no engine
>stripped the 1970 body and removed it from it's floorpans
>cleaned up the 1972 body a bit and removed it from it's floorpans
>took the transaxle part off the 1972 to replace the broken 1970 part
>put the wrecked 1970 body on the rusted out 72 floorpans and had them hauled off

And that's about where I am with it. The 1972 body and 1970 floorpan both need more work but I'm confident I can get it running and driving next opportunity I have to work on it.

>>16947066
does it feel like Frankenstein beetle yet ?

>>16947075
The 1970 body was already dressed up (fenders, bumpers, mirrors, etc.) like a 1960s model, which was strange to begin with. A stock 1972 body is basically a 1970, only major difference I can think of is the rear window being an inch or two larger. It doesn't really feel like I'm creating a franklestein monster, just swapping parts.

>>16947139
*frankenstein

>>16946011
There's actually some good shit in your area


https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6071859400.html

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6071695193.html

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6071519152.html

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6071402442.html

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6066841554.html

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6068080133.html

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6052467955.html

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6035544520.html

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6066336238.html

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6064271869.html

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/5998906071.html

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>>16947206
A 6k 340 satellite?!?

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my dad took his car to the dealer for inspection and maintenance and shit, and when we left, we saw one of these beauties around the corner.

I shouldve taken a picture. you almost never see these.

or any other AMC that isn't a YJ jeep, for that matter.

>>16947139
I just wander around junk yards sometimes and wonder what cars have missed their chance to go on or stay running
and parts whoes intent only lives on as spare parts for bodys in better condition

its not so much as I think the cars are alive
but that their form and idea were made by people who are long dead and whoes type might never be agian
its like that oject is the last remaining consequence that they were ever here

>only major difference I can think of is the rear window being an inch or two larger.
I a diffrence when takeing the engine from my pre 1960 mini that I had crashed and putting it into a post 1970 shell
the 1970s sub frame type has rubber mounts on the shock towers
so I could not re use the 1960s frames
and the 850cc ohv my 1970 came with is well fucked

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>>16946011
found some good shit
https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6071471832.html
10/10 these cars are easy to work on and great cruisers
https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6045725703.html
this would also be a nice cruser car, going nowhere fast but hey whatever
https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6069404446.html
get a crate engine from GM and go, or just find an old 350 with the trans, people are literally giving them away. If you lived in michigan I could hook you up with a guy I know that wants his engines gone and is selling them for like 50$ perfectly fine.
https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6069663984.html
ALL THE YES
https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6061505183.html
I have a thing for novas, great cars
https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/6054383131.html
another novacaine

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>>16943069
holy fuck that's nice

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Here's a bump. About to do extensive work to the underside of the galaxie. All new brake system, undercoat, near rear shocks and springs, rebuild of the transmission... a few other things i'm forgetting, i'm sure of it.

if you don't ever see this car posted here again it means i died.

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>>16948316
new exhaust system as well....

>>16947206
>>16947258

You guys aren't kidding, some of those classics are literally turn key and drive at my price range, and that blows my mind. Those Novas seem like a nice fit for me

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>>16936198
are you talking specifically for a lemans of that vintage?

just swap in a better engine and transmission. on these big GM cars its a fuckin breeze.

the nova went from a smog 350 making god knows how little power to a mild 406 that goes low 12s on pump gas.

>>16948414
He'll yeah dude my first car was a fourth gen nova like that with a straight six 250 and th350. Thing was a piece of cake to work on and was reliable as hell. Got like 20-25 mpg too

>>16948378
Nova's are a great first classic. Easy to work on, parts are cheap and easy to find. They also make great mpg

>>16946736
Six pack deserves more information then what he provided.

>>16947213
Yeah Sebring's aren't that valuable.

>>16948414
4th gen Nova had a 350 instead of a 305?

>>16947213
Shitty model year, 72 was the last good year for the Satellite

>>16948649
Maybe if he was talking about a car equipped with one. The six pack wasn't even available in 1967 so he shouldn't have even mentioned it at all.

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Anybody got a brand of choice for cheap fuel tank repair putty? One of the pinhole leaks that I patched on the bottom of my tank last year started dripping again, going to slam some more putty on it after work. Used Permatex (pic related) last year, lasted a while, probably going to use it again unless anybody swears by another. Aiming for $15 and under.

>>16949694
Yeah, it's called solder

>>16949784
Or get a new tank

>>16949784
>>16949797
Thank you for the obvious long term solutions. My tank is leaking right now, this is my only vehicle, I would like to put a short term patch on it so I'm not leaking gas all over the place while I find a new tank or the time to drain it, clean it, and solder it.

>>16949817
Why don't you do what I showed earlier in this thread?
>>16940837

I hope the guy who knows about these AOD transmissions is still around. I adjusted the cable using a pressure gauge until I got to 33psi with the block in there, but after giving it a drive around it shifts at REALLY low speeds. I'm talking it'll shift from 1st to 2nd at about 10, and from 2nd to 3rd at about 22. 3rd to 4th at about 40. I'm used to it shifting into OD at just over 45. Should I just trust the gauge and not my gut on this one?

>>16950001
On phone for a week so no detailed posts from me. Go hang out on clickclickracing forums for a bit. Somebody there should be able to go into details for you.

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Found this in the el Camino today

>>16950039
F

>>16950037
Thanks, mate. I'll do some searching there and see what I come up with.

>>16950039
fuck it in that tight little asshole

>>16950077
found francis of the filthu
also checked

>tfw ordered new tires today.
Goodbye $600

>>16950281
Please be Cooper cobras

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>>16950286
Actually, although I considered them first, I got BFGoodrich Radial T/As instead

>>16950304
Fair enough

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>>16950286
>cooper tires
enjoy your shit tier tires

>>16950539
The Cooper Cobra GT Radials look nice though, but the BFGoodrich Radials were only like $10 more, so I went with them instead

>>16950548
>S-rated tires
>classic fags will defend this

>>16950772
I'm never going above 180 kmph, so why do I care? Why would I care? Why would anyone here care?

>>16949694
I'm not aware of any type of epoxy on the market right now that's ethanol proof. so anything you use will eventually fail just like the permatex unless you live somewhere with ethanol free gas

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>>16951062

get some of that flex tape shit. Did you see how they patched that fucking boat up? God damn.

How hard would it be to modify my fuel sending unit and up it from a 3/8" line (stock) to a 1/2" line?

>>16950772
Classic cars don't have the gearing for top speed

>>16954325
You'd have to replace all fuel line? Depends on the car and whatnot

>>16954356
Its an inline fuel pump, and I need a return line so here's my plan

Feed: tank (sumped or modded sending unit) > 1/2 hose > Pump > 3/8 hose > fuel rails

Return (from the fuel rail): 3/8 hose > Original steel feed line > into tank

So its either I weld in a 1/2" steel line next to the original feed (now return) drop in line, or buy a new tank and weld a sump to it.

>>16954424
Which vehicle? I know nothing about EFI though.

>>16954446
Chevelle 5.3. I mean its not about EFI, I just need to know how should I go about getting a 1/2 inch line in this plate the size of my fist

>>16954456
Christmas tree drill bit? I can't help you man

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So the following happened on my way home today...

>mildly warm day
>holy shit all that traffic
>literally 2 mile jam on the shoulder for the next exit
>drive past until nearly by the exit and then merge into it
>takes ages to get past traffic lights
>right before traffic lights, engine stalls
>wait, what?
>start, drive 5 feet, stalls again
>fug.jpg
>start again, give it some gas and manage to get it off the side of the road
>several thoughts go through my head
>just changed the oil this weekend, I made sure to tighten the drain plug, right?
>check oil several times because clean oil makes it hard to see
>still at max
>well shoot, I guess I'll check the trans fluid now I'm at it anyway, even though it's stupid.
>yup, fine as expected, that wouldve been weird anyway
>give all the plug wires a push, nothing budges so should be fine
>check the carb for fuel
>yup, I got fuel
>look underneath again for traces of oil leaks even though I just checked the dipstick
>clean as a whistle
>well, I guess I'll try to start it one more time
>starts just fine and keeps running
>cross the intersection weirdly because of how I parked and turn around to go back
>back on the intersection, it stall again and refuses to start until I let it sit for a while
>wait a minute...
>is it overheating? The temp seems a bit higher than normal at 220-ish
>can overheating cause it to stall?
>that would explain it going after it sat for a while last time
>let several cycles of the light pass and then start it again.
>It starts, but not happily
>Give it some gas and it rockets off like nothing's wrong
>get on the highway and notice temps drop a bit
>no further problems
Can it be heat soak? I have no clue otherwise.

>Select all images with a gas station
>3 gas stations
>GAS GAS GAS
>I wanna step on the gas
>mfw this actually got me home
>mfw google is spying on me even when driving a "dumb" vehicle.

>>16954528
vacuum leak?

>>16954616
The thought occurred to me since I took the PCV hose out of the valve cover to fill the oil, but that was tight, forgot to mention that.

>>16954528
Fuel's boiling somewhere. Could be in the float bowl, could be in the line between pump and carb, could be in the engine compartment before the pump. Anything that isn't stock is suspect. Excess rubber hose is also suspect since that stuff just absorbs heat and keeps it.

>>16954688
So, vapor lock* is what you're saying? Huh, that sounds kinda obvious now that you mention it. Why didn't I think of that?

*Is that even the right term when dealing with carbs? Despite driving a carb vehicle I know more about EFI, where VL is a thing.

>>16954528
>literally 2 mile jam on the shoulder for the next exit
>drive past until nearly by the exit and then merge into it

you deserve it asshole

>>16954528
Your fuel was boiling and your under hood temps were too high. That happens on my f250 often just because the fan has no shroud.

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next thread needs to be pontiac edition
Also 389 pontiac engine for my moms 65 gto is done

>>16954922
I have a fan shroud, but I can see fuel lines getting hot being a problem.

I guess the first thing I need to check is if I have a return or returnless system.

>>16955056
>mom's GTO
man, I wish my mom was half as cool as that.

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>>16955061
she isnt its just an excuse for a project. We already build "her" a 70 w/30 442
Though with me being away my dad is doing most of the work :(
>mfw im hundreds of miles away from some of the only fun in my life

>>16955076
Eh, I assume she'll at least drive it around every once in a while.

When I let my mom drive my Camaro she kept trying to shift it. She'd never driven an automatic before, and I doubt she will again any time soon. She's also terrified to be a passenger in it for some reason. I'd be surprised if it puts out anything close to 250 horse. It had the smogshit removed but that's all.

>>16955061
henlo u stinky euro.

Vaporlock *is* the correct term when you're dealing with a carbureted engine.
The fuel pump creates a lower pressure in the fuel line going back to the tank, and that low pressure causes fuel to boil at a lower temperature.

It's a really common thing here in Arizona, especially when temperatures get over about 95 freedom units. That's uh, 35 baguettes?

There's a couple things you can do to mitigate the problem:

1. Put an electric fuel pump as close to the tank as you can. You'll have to make sure the pressure coming out is correct for the carb or you'll have major problems

2. Insulate the fuel line between the tank and mechanical pump. Keep that nasty exhaust heat off it.

3. Put an EFI pump in the tank, add a regulator up by the carb and a return line. Lots of work but you'll never have vaporlock again

>>16955112
she drives the 442 like once a year so I dont think this is going to be any different. Nice excuse to restore a car without her bitching though

>>16955133
Well, putting an EFI pump in the tank is the one thing that keeps me off TBI in the first place. at that point I might as well redo everything.

My current pump is by the driver side front wheel, so I guess that's bad, but again, I don't want to redo the fuel system. Not until The Great Rebuild anyway.

I can try and shield the fuel line though, for starters. Seems like a cheap and simply enough fix to hold me off.

>>16955163
Eh, if she falls for that, then good for you, right?

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so many corvairs so little time
(there is another one outside the frame)

>>16955180
Nader would have a heart attack seeing that

>>16954705
>Is that even the right term when dealing with carbs?
Yes, the nature of carbs makes it easy for gas to vent into the atmosphere if it starts boiling. It's also a huge fire hazard.

Gasoline simply bursts into flames at 500 degrees while headers/manifolds can easily be this temperature.

My bike does this all the time in traffic, if the heater starts climbing you'll basically start smelling pump gas because it's venting out.

>>16955276
>heater
heat* lmao as if the radiator wasn't a heater.

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Anyone using EFI tank to feed their carb? I am very interested in pursuing this route.

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>>16955722
ill be going that route in the next year or two with my truck.
just make sure you put a bypass reg in and as close to the carb as possible to help prevent fuel boiling

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>>16950039
god damn that's a big asshole

>>16956346
Yeah it really paid off for him because I had to extract about 20 lbs of rat shit as well.

>>16936150
I feel the same about Vegas. I was born and raised there... Although, being gone for a year, I miss the place. It's expanded so much since I left.

>>16955174
>pump by drivers side wheel
Probably found the problem. Relocate pump first. Preferably back by the tank but if nothing else have it at least as low as the bottom of the tank. A bit lower would be nice to enhance the siphon effect. See that the fuel line to the pump if you're keeping it up front for now is nowhere close to exhaust. Running it on top of the subframe is common and that's too close. Move it or place a heat shield. From the pump to the carb there needs to be a minimum 1/2 inch clearance between steel line and any engine component. And if using a Holley carb you might want to get one of those carb heat shields from Moroso (Summit Racing). Small blocks don't usually need them but it can't hurt. Big block needs one for sure.

>>16936150
I didn't really know how shitty Vegas was until I got out of my neighborhood (Centennial Hills) and went to school at CSN on Cheyenne while I was still in high school. Taking public transit for the first time going from Tule Springs to Rancho then to Cheyenne redpilled me on how shitty Vegas can be. Schizophrenics talking into perfume bottles about safehouses, a heroin user shooting up at the bus stop, drunks, homeless ,etc. North Town is a shit hole.

Classic cars are shit lmao enjoy your 180hp 8L pushcuck engine

>>16957289
enjoy your buspass

>>16957289
enjoy your econobox

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>>16954528
I have a major problem with vapor lock in my galaxie when the temps get over a certain about 200. I even routed the fuel line as far as possible away from the engine, it's basically hitting the inner fender well on it's way from the pump to the carb. It helped a bit but still did that shit.

There's a few ways to fix it, install an inline electronic pusher pump as close to possible to the gas tank, which would supplement the mechanical puller pump, you'd probably also need a fuel pressure regulator as well.

Install an insulator between the carb and the intake, which will help as well, That's most likely going to help the most, but it's not always the problem.(gas boiling away when it reaches the carb). You can either buy a phenolic carb gasket or make one out of 3/4" plywood, i made mine, and it worked wonders on that old 390 i had. They also sell those same types of gaskets for fuel pumps, i'm pretty sure.

do you have a fan shroud? If you don't, either get one or convert to electronic fan. I'm converting to electronic in my galaxie because 400 engine swap and I don't want to waste time fabbing a shroud for a mechanical fan i catch my fingers on all the time anyway.

Vapor lock sucks, if you install a clear fuel filter after the pump(on it's way to the carb) you'll be able to tell where exactly it's not getting gas with a quick peek under the hood.

>>16957436
I don't have the underhood space to install a spacer, I'm afraid. My aircleaner is already rubbing against the hood in some points.

I'll see if I can move the pump further backwards.

Thanks for all the advice so far guys. I'll start with the simple things first and see how far that gets me.

Hey cunts, I have a 1979 Fiesta here in California, where the fuck do I find a replacement windshield and the little passenger vent window? I need one with the pivot and I can only find the solid one.

>>16958687
>hey cunts
I think you got lost on the way to the /dat/ thread.

>>16958687
Rockauto or it doesn't exist and you need to call safelite

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Bumping with my landbarge 9C1 Project

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>>16960380
ayyy, what year?

Here's my brother's before I fixed it up

>>16960407
1989!

Having a bitch of a time with both an aftermarket alarm and the horn blowing every time I reconnect the battery!

>>16948414
wow your dad's car is clean!

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>>16960380

Holy shit, I went to Mass with a trooper buddy of mine to get an identical cruiser.

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>>16960437
his is an 83.

and he now has a pontiac grille.

He drives a chontiac paprice.

>>16960467
My lightbar is very similar to that, same Whelen cross bar and mounting feet. Mine isn't permanently mounted. Do you happen to know how it's permanently mounted?

Modern lightbars have predrilled holes in the mounting feet. These are rubbery plastic feet and gutter hooks. How is his mounted? Awesome looking car! Wish my paint was that cleen. Especially on the hood and front bumper filler.

>>16960483
The Pontiac grill looks nice, I like it!

>>16960522

He put the light and siren on after we got the car , so I haven't seen it up close.

>>16960543
Oh I see. Thanks!

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New 20 gal fuel tank on the way from Spectra for the Scottsdale, $120 (after shipping + CAD conversion) w/ new straps, not bad at all.

Found out some interesting shit regarding the transition to TBI in these trucks too while researching tanks. In '82 (I think) GM switched to in-tank fuel senders for the 10-Series. In '87 TBI was introduced for the 10-Series and GM added baffles (walls) to the interior of the tank to minimize fuel slosh while driving. My truck had the tank replaced some time in the past and the last owner installed a 16 gallon short box tank from an earlier year. Because the tank is from a carberated truck it doesn't have the internal baffles, this causes a couple of minor issues in a TBI truck.

First problem is that, due to the huge amount of fuel slosh in saddle tanks, the fuel gauge is almost constantly fluctuating +/- a quarter tank. Pair that with an old fuel sender/float and your fuel level reading is basically useless.

Second problem is that when you take a fast and sharp right turn with less than a quarter tank of fuel, the fuel slosh is large enough that it exposes the in-tank fuel sender entirely, which can cause a sudden drop in power or even a stall in a TBI truck. There's usually enough gas in the bowl that a carbureted truck isn't noticeably affected by this.

At the end of the day it's not a big deal to run an old tank in a TBI truck, mine has been this way for at least 100,000 km, but I have encountered the power drop/stall issue on hard right turns while low on gas before, although very rarely, so it's refreshing to know what's causing it.

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79 trans am dude here again with another stupid question. I recently put in a new coolant temp sender and fixed my temp gauge but now since I can see the temperature I'm noticing that at idle it heats up really quickly. It's pushing above 220 and it's kinda worrying me with how warm it's getting here that I might overheat my engine if I'm ever stuck in traffic. Also anytime I'm driving it stays well below 200 or gets close to that when I'm diving in town. I understand that at idle it's going to get warmer since no air is being pushed into the front of the radiator but I don't think it's supposed to be getting this hot. What would be some things to check for to troubleshoot my cooling system?

>>16956548
I live in centennial hills aswell. Most of vegas is a crap shoot except for summerlin.

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page 9 bump

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>>16961020
It's that cheap-ass fan. Basically just a noise maker. You need to find a clutch fan like it had originally.

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>>16943966

>>16961020
is it an aftermarket temp guage?
>>16962586
this guy is right but get a electric fan with temp control

>>16955259
good, I hope he rots in hell

>>16961020
Spacing that fan out so it's closer to/inside the shroud will help.

Less air bleeding off the ends of the blades=more air being moved axially

>>16962586
I'll try to track one down and see if that helps.
>>16962969
I'm using the factory gauge on the cluster.
>>16963077
When I get another fan with a clutch I'll do that.

Also I have noticed when cold with the radiator cap off it'll still flow meaning that the thermostat is either stuck or not even there. Would this somehow be causing it to overheat at idle?

>>16936103
God damn, nice photo

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>>16963252
there's a theory that removing the thermostat will cause the coolant to flow through the radiator too quickly, not allowing it time to transfer all the built up heat and let the radiator do its job, I doubt thats your case here though, usually that happens to people on the highway when the water pump is really working and pushing that coolant through pretty fast.

I think it might just be your fan, you definitely need a longer spacer, because right now that shroud isnt doing much of nothing. The fan is just whipping air around in the engine bay and not pulling much through the actual radiator.

>>16936150
>>now it's an awful place that thrives on taking money from retarded foreigners and californians
>>any remnants of class have been completely washed away and replaced with absurd levels of degeneracy and consumerism

>class
>Vegas
pick one.

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Bump.

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>>16964658
>bump limit

oh well.