red pill me on black ops performance /o/, I've been wanting

>>16932616
apparently, they bring the cars over in two pieces and put them together to bypass the law. That's all I know, and I'm not even sure if that's correct

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>>16932639
They do? They didn't mention that, they apparently import it, most likely they import them illegally, they then get a state title, and insurance from wherever. What I'm worried about is some cop knocking at my door and telling me my car is going to become scrap, but holy shit I want one so bad my penis is going to explode

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I forgot to add, everytime they get asked via social media, or on video, they always say something to the extent of "please contact us to inquire on how it is legal" or they just go "muh state title" muh state title doesn't explain how they are importing them by the dozens and selling them to individuals with no repercussion. Seems odd but like I said, I'm desperate

>>16932616
Their website is very suspicious. I wouldn't buy one unless you want to see it crushed. Get an R32 instead, and buy it from somewhere more respectable.

>>16932616
You should buy one. If it ends up getting crushed it might suck for you but it'll be pretty funny for the rest of us.

It's Florida. Are you in the discord? I think there are some guys with imported cars they might know.
https://discord.gg/MrmJd

>>16932639
>>16932654
>>16932684
>>16932694
the only way I know an R34 to legally be imported is for it to be a "show car", which means it may only be driven less than 2500 miles per year, the car gets inspected and verified every year and the car carries a six figure price tag.

Get an R32 GTR or wait eight more years.

As cool as it would be to be one of a very few to have an R34, I would not want to be the guy who gets a knock from customs and has their car sent for scrap without compensation and you have no recourse because of the paperwork you signed with the company that says they can't and won't be held liable for anything that happens after the car sale.

I'm sure the likelihood of that happening isn't great, but I would not want to be the guy who has his dream car seized and forfeited in front of him.

>Buying a car thats federally illegal
>buying a non-gtr R34

Just wait a few years you faggot. You're going to regret it when it gets taken from you by the Feds.

>>16932684
CLEARLY they are a shoddy business. Shits not legal AT ALL

bypassing the law to import it is one thing

but as soon as you take it to a state like ohio they are going to ask what make and model the car is

if you say its a kit car then you need to prove its a mishmash of parts through a road worthiness exam done at a state highway patrol outpost by a highway patrolman

they arnt idiots they will know what year make and model it is and will mark it as such on the title which they wont issue to you but instead give to the tow truck driver with the explicit instructions to take it to the nearest salvage yard to be turned into a metal cube

in order for it to be registered as road legal and qualify for any sort of financing it needs that inspection to be a pass


the other other option is to keep it uninsured unregistered and buy it 100% cash and use it as a track only car- think demolition derby car


go ahead and ask my any questions you have reguarding this sort of thing i know the ins and outs of this part of the automotive world

>>16932738
Here's a PDF from the gubmint themselves that's not in awful legalese

https://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/HOW%20TO%20IMPORT%20SHOW%20DISPLAY%2003022010.pdf

I only know of one R34 GTR in the US that has been imported under these guidelines.

>>16932746
OP is just a stupid underage kid who has a "RIP Paul Walker" sticker on his shitty civic.

>>16932738
>>16932756
Relevant: http://www.importavehicle.com/vehicles/19/1999-nissan-skyline-gt-r

Saw one in CA the other day. No idea what loophole he was using. Was driving slow though so probably not a legal one

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>>16932769
>$150k

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Fuck fast n furious
fuck paul walker
and fuck the rest of these kiddies that hype up the R34 GT-R

>>16932769
Yup, that's exactly the one I was thinking of. I wanted to go there to check out some of their R32 GTRs and to see the R34 but I decided against it.

Basically, pay way too much for instant gratification that's ruined by regulations anyway, or be patient, wait 8 more years and get one legally.

>>16932775
no shit sherlock. There is no such thing as a legal R34 GT-R in the US.

They have to be 25 years or older. What do you faggots not understand about this?

>>16932759
the only way to get that kinda car in would be to import the shell no engine tranny or anything JUST the body pannels all togeather

then build a frame, source an engine that is non origional and fab a drivetran and tranny

by that point it would be considered a kit car and would thusly be exempt from all emissions and saftey standards that are currently in place

>>16932797
Good luck finding a shell or an exporter in japan who will do just a shell

>>16932797

this, >>16932808

The only truly legal way to tag an R34 Skyline GT-R in the USA is by importing all of the parts individually (as in not a dissambled car) and getting it vinned and tagged as a kit car.

>>16932815
read this you stupid fuck >>16932808

register it as an r32

problem solved

no inspections

>>16932616
Scum
Scum
scummy
scum

oh, and importing this car can't still be illegal. that's stupid and you're being scammed. if you read the law >>16932756, the second one of these non compliant cars are crash tested and approved by the EPA to be on the road, you can sell them.

That's how I interpret it. That's what being compliant means: Passing a crash test and other codes.

The law also has a loophole clause for a "substantially similar" Vehicle. well guess what? Your car is substantially similar to the ones that have been let on the road.

>>16932823
You use a G35 as a chassis.
>you stupid fuck

>Americans
>ruining R34s

Just stick to your Mustangs and Camaros.

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>>16932616
>Wanting a Nissan

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>>16932882
>Implying every company doesn't have creative people in it that put their soul into at least one machine.

STEP up to the PLATE kid.

>>16932872

>implying americans
>implying ruining r34s

How do you ruin a skyline? non gtrs are garbage everyday young boys toys in every country that got these

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>>16932889
one word
"korea"

>>16932898
Just because Koreans themselves don't have souls, it doesn't mean their cars don't.

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>>16932889
>heart and soul
>cheap stamp steel control arms
Absolute trash

>>16932831
>>16932853

you have no clue what you are talking about

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>>16932889
Asians are born soulless
Checkmate nippo

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>>16932908
that would clearly be an item you have to upgrade to bring the r34 up to code. and why it's not allowed in the first place

never cut corners in your work.

>>16932916
actually you don't. which is why you never work toward anything.

>>16932934
you have no idea what you are talking about and are projecting.

Good Job!

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>>16932746
So how do they drive around legally? Do they just hope they don't get caught or something?

also thanks to the people who took the time to answer my questions, sucks I can get an R34 but I shoudln't, oh well. shitposters fuck off

>>16932980
you have zero clue. read the law it's literally posted in the thread. it describes the avenues you can use to drive anything you want.

This is America, no car is illegal.

>>16932985
You're a clueless fuck. Clearly you're still in high school.

Stick to playing Forza kiddie. Good Night.

>>16932983
>So how do they drive around legally?

they don't.


>Do they just hope they don't get caught or something?

exactly, if you check google you can find stories where ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) straight up takes people's GT-R's and crush it all while they have to pay a fine as well as serve a sentence

>>16933004
so sad. you are so dependent on the state you can't do anything at all. you can't achieve. you can't exploit loopholes. you just resign yourself to being cattle.

totally clueless.

>>16932639
>bypass the law
Still illegal as fuck to the feds.

The only legal ways
>25 years law
>RARE (show and display) (less than 500 made) and there IS a list of cars the government will approve already
>"substantially similar" clause, most asian cars will not meet this. It's mostly for Mexico/Canada
>crash a fuck load an get the governments approval and make ALL the changes required.
THERE IS NO OTHER LEGAL WAY

>>16933051
no. the skyline is on the ban list as a show car. because get this - it's not a show car.

>THERE IS NO OTHER LEGAL WAY
wrong. as long as its been through a crash test (it has) and passed (it has) you can get it inspected by the EPA and drive it around.

>>16933030
You act as if you imported a R34 GT-R yourself.

If you have post proof, post it

If you haven't, like I said, shut the fuck up..... exactly.

>hurrr i'm exploiting da gubmint for a shitty overhyped car that paul walker drove.

>>16933051
no anon clearly exploiting the goverment is a great idea like this fuckhead thinks >>16933030

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>>16933030

>>16933067
it's not exploitation. it's dilligently bringing your import to EPA standards like the law requires.

you're just an ignorant cattleman who lives life being fed and watching hollywood movies. you have no clue. zero clue.

>>16932738
The "show car" has to meet very specific criteria. But if you find a special model like GTR R34 Nismo Spev V Nurburgring Edition, then you could import it, MAYBE.

>>16933073
NOOOOOOO. Wrong. No.

It's not JUST bringing it to standards. You ALSO have to crash test X amount of R34's and THEN make the changes. And THEN the government will have to give you approval. It can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to do this and STILL be told no. There are no "loop holes." You can bring in RARE models for show/display. That's it. And they are strict on those as well. The rest are titled in Florida, but they aren't LEGAL at all.

Source: I work for a shop that does all the repairs and mods for a car import company, and I can fucking read.

>>16933107
>You ALSO have to crash test X amount of R34
Already been done, you stooge.

>>16933121
I'm going to laugh really hard if you're referring to motorex.

>>16933066
>wrong. as long as its been through a crash test (it has) and passed (it has) you can get it inspected by the EPA and drive it around.
NOOOPPPEEEEEE it has not. Nope. Nope. Nope. You're talking about MotoRex and that won't stand. And there are special editions of the GTR that you can bring over if you get government approval.

It's also doesn't have to be a SHOW CAR idiot, there just needs to be 500 or less of a specific model to BE CONSIDERED. KYS.

https://one.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/ShowDisplay/howtosd072003.html

>>16933134
it's on a ban list.

build your compliant GTR. it's easy.

>>16933121
NO IT HAS NOT. MOTOREX WILL NOT COUNT IN YOUR FUCKING BULLSHIT. NO ONE HAS CRASHED ENOUGH R34's TO MAKE THEM LEGAL.

PRO TIP. IF EVEN ONNNEEEE PERSON DOES CRASH ENOUGH, ANYONE CAN BRING THEM IN IF THEY DO THE REQUIRED CHANGES. NO ONE BRINGS THEM IN BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T PASSED STANDARDS BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CRASHED. THE R33 WAS CRASHED AND THE GOVT SAID, NAHHH THEY FUCKED IT UP FOR EVERYONE, NO MORE.

Jesus Christ, you fucking idiots.

>>16933140
You are dumb as fuck.

>>16933151
and you will never build anything because you wait to be fed like cattle. you are inept.

>>16933155
LOL, just KYS and do everyone a favor.

>>16933141
>NO ONE HAS CRASHED ENOUGH R34's TO MAKE THEM LEGAL.
you the judge? no?

okay, we're good, then.

>>16933141
>THE GOVT SAID, NAHHH THEY FUCKED IT UP FOR EVERYONE, NO MORE.
is that what they said? seems like you're paraphrasing second hand bullshit you heard because you're clueless...

very truly clueless.

>>16933162
Well considering I work with importers every day, who would ABSOLUTELY import R34's if they could. ANNNDDDD considering the government says specifically the R34 ISN'T legal to import. I'm going to base my posts on those facts and ignore your ignorant, no proof showing, shit.

https://one.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/FAQ%20Site/pages/page10.html

"You should note that the petition sought import eligibility for 1990-1999 Nissan GTS and GTR "Skyline" passenger cars. After granting the petition, the agency learned that the modifications identified in the petition were not sufficient to conform certain model and model year vehicles that were covered by the petition. The agency therefore partially rescinded its grant of eligibility, leaving only R33 model Nissan GTS and GTR passenger cars manufactured between January 1, 1996 and June 30, 1998 eligible for importation."

But I;m sure you know more than the NHTSA

>>16933174
REKT
>>16933194

>>16933194
>>16933174
OP here to say complete rekt, also does this mean I can import an r33? fucking please can I?

>>16933210
You can if they are between that date listed, you make ALL the emissions and crash changes, AND file the petition/paperwork with the gubbment.

>>16933194
you work with plebs if you don't know how to build a car legally.

>muh nhtsa
here I'm going to quote the relevant text for you since I'm a living God.

>After granting the petition, the agency learned that the modifications identified in the petition were not sufficient to conform certain model and model year vehicles that were covered by the petition.
> the modifications identified in the petition were not sufficient
Make it sufficient and it's yours.

but you can't do that, because you're inept. you sit on your computer all night dreaming of things you want to have, but arguing all day against your ability to ever acquire it.

You are a cuck. Textbook cuck. And clueless.

>>16933218
Is there somebody who does this if I request them? How much? I will satisfy my skyline fetish with an R33 GTR

>>16933210
If you give them a good enough reason to.

Keep in mind that R33s will be legal to import in less than two full years based on the 25 year rule.

Before you jump the gun, go through the process of bureaucracy and pay a premium, an R33 will likely be ready import anyway by the time you get approved.

The R34 will be legal in another 8.

>>16932639
This is Florida, they just take the vin from an Altima and slap it on the R34.

>>16933226
LOL you are so fucking dumb it hurts. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
>The agency therefore partially rescinded its grant of eligibility
>partially rescinded its grant of eligibility
>rescinded its grant of eligibility

LOL. Jesus. INB4
>I was just pretending to be retarded.


For anyone else, you if you meet the date the NHTSA listed, you can import THOSE R33's, but you will still need to file and make the changes.

>>16933241
Any car that meets EPA standards can be driven on the road. You can build anything you want as long as it's up to code. Just like a house.

You're just a retard, bro. Accept it.

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Just delete this thread already.

>>16933237
This. Just wait a couple years, there will be more companies importing them to buy from domestically, and will generally be easier once the 25 rule is up.

t. waiting one more year to buy my FD a RHD friend

>>16932789
That isn't true. Any R34s imported by Motorex before the the government caught on to them are technically legal

>>16933257
>just wait a couple years
see this is my point. You guys don't want an R34. You want instant gratification. You wouldn't be able to build one if you wanted. You want someone to sell you one, which requires a business moving through too much red tape to be viable.

You're clueless. Like I said. Build the R34 and it's yours. You can't.

>>16933249
And meeting those standards on a car literally means CRASHING "X" amount of them AND GETTING GOVERNMENT APPROVAL TO MAKE THE CHANGES REQUIRED. WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DONE. Holy fuck dude, there is no magic loop hole. I'm done responding to you. You've been proven wrong every step of the way and have not showed one bit of proof.

>>16933077
Yeah but if you're in that price range a readily available GT-R or NSX would be easier to get

>>16933256
>having an actual thread about vehicle legality
>delet dis this isnt another intial d thread :(((

get fucked

RB's are a shit motor
GT-R's are boy racer weeb trash

>>16933270
No you don't have to crash test your own car. You're a nigger who can't even fathom building his own car.

>>16933267
what the fuck are you going to do about a legal VIN number once you've got the R34 assembled, asshole

>>16933265
11 of them. If they are all still around as far as I know.

>>16933280
safety inspection at the DMV, retard.

>>16933278
resorting to childish name calling, racist slurs at that because you realized you were wrong. lmao, sad!

>>16933292
Better not let them do an emissions test.

>>16933294
you're literally wrong though. you're a fucking idiot. no car is illegal in America provided it meets EPA code.

Build your R34, and get it inspected. You will be assigned a VIN.


The problem here is no matter how many times I say this, you're a fucking nigger so it doesn't sink in. You can't fathom that people build cars. You just want a dealership to sell you one.

>>16933300
every manufacture detunes their engines for the emissions test. some even got busted for having a program running in the ECU unit to detect test conditions and reduce performance/emissions.

You have to gimp your engine. That's the reality.

>>16933303
Wasn't there a guy in California who went to jail for building Skyline Kit cars?

>>16933300
That doesn't even matter. This faggot is talking about piecing together an R34. That is still illegal. Period. They have crushed peoples cars that have tried exactly this. He's a fucking moron. There is no way around the laws. It doesn't matter if you import all the parts separately and put them together. You can get it titled in Florida, but it will still be illegal to the Feds. Full stop.

Unless that dumb nigger is talking about some kit car and using the drive line. But then it's not a GTR so his point is triple retarded.

>>16933323
There have been several cars crushed for exactly this. Even some importers getting shut down. This isn't legal, and it doesn't matter what the fuck the DMV says like that moron is saying. The FEDS can/will crush it. They do this to Range Rovers and other cars as well. He's not outsmarting the system, they know ALLLLLL the scams. They are even crushing people swapping the vins with 240's and shit. The only LEGAL ways are the ways listed above ITT, the government is VERY CLEAR on it.

>>16933303
>Build your R34, and get it inspected. You will be assigned a VIN.

Sure, provided the trained monkey at the DMV gets all the requisite information/documentation, which you'll likely have to furnish translations for.

>>16933314
Yeah, I don't have to do any of that shit because I'm not a retard trying to import cars newer than 1995.

>>16933324
>They have crushed peoples cars that have tried exactly this.
false

they did not build the car from the ground up and go through legal channels at the DMV.

you are so fucking cucked now you're lying. spreading lies like a shill faggot.

>>16933347
Still irrelevant. The FEDS will not recognize it. This has been done before, and crushed before.

That idiot thinks state law trumps federal law. And he thinks the EPA hasn't already said no skylines outside the select few.

>>16933364
liar.

I have no clue what you stand to gain from lying, but stop.

Stop lying.

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OK so, OP here, this thread became a shit fest, I didn't want to piece together a R34, I didn't want to take a shit on the engine to make it comply with EPA testing, they don't even do emissions testing here in Florida. I just wanted to know if I could get an R34 GTT without it getting crushed, and now I have stopped being retarded, and have accepted that it can't be done without running the risk of it getting crushed. I will just get an R32 GTR, wait the two years, sell it, and import an R33 GTR. Everybody is getting this shit confused

Oh and these videos discouraged me from messing with the fed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l7JCb3RDqQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBhs7kDKQP0

think you can hear the guy crying in the r34 vid, poor guy

>>16933324
I'm well aware, dude - shit, criminal charges could even come as a result of what he's planning. Getting the GTR crushed is a secondary concern when this amount of stupidity is involved. Giving this guy the benefit of the doubt, there's nothing but further snags and legality hurdles to jump to come assuming he even manages to get past step 1.

Of course he's never actually done any of this shit he's saying.

>>16933355
KEK rekt again
http://jalopnik.com/5371967/feds-seize-illegal-nissan-skyline-gt-rs-in-cali

http://jalopnik.com/crushed-nissan-skyline-owner-admits-he-knew-his-car-was-1754114879

>>16933377
that's an illegal import, you liar.

they aren't crushing people who build them.

>>16933368
You have been shut down so much ITT with proof, I can't believe you still unironically think you can just piece together an R34 and that magically works.

>>16933377
>got flagged after he filed an insurance claim on the car and State Farm recognized it didn’t have a 17-digit VIN
Didn't go through the DMV like I said.

This is my point. You're all niggers. You can't follow instructions. Simple instructions. Build your car; go to the DMV.

Vlueless niggerfaggots

>>16933382
>http://jalopnik.com/5371967/feds-seize-illegal-nissan-skyline-gt-rs-in-cali
..........."In this case, the cars were imported by Kaizo under a special exemption for automotive parts. They brought over the shells and drivetrains separately and then reassembled them. They were then, apparently, registered under the law as SB 100, which is for kit/show cars. "

>hey brought over the shells and drivetrains separately and then reassembled them.
>hey brought over the shells and drivetrains separately and then reassembled them.
>hey brought over the shells and drivetrains separately and then reassembled them.

>>16933386

It's STILL ILLEGAL. THE DMV DOES NOT SUPERSEDE THE FEDS. Jesus Christ.

Also
>>16933389
You are a very slow person.

>>16933386
Clueless niggerfaggots with cars that haven't been crushed due to being federally illegal.

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>>16933372
Hey, OP, it's me: >>16932639

I've been to Japan twice and seen 5-10 R34 skylines myself. It's true that I lose my shit every time I see them, but eventually, you only care about the GT-Rs.

I've learned over the past two years that the R32 is superior in many ways, and may actually be a better bang-for-buck buy. Please consider that instead.

I would suggest Japanese classics over in Virginia, but they never have GT-Rs, just GTS-Ts.

Up to you, but those are my feelings about the 'almighty' R34. P.S., I've been to seven's day at Daikoku and seen some of the rarest RX-7s in the world. They're infinitely cooler than a 200k mile R34

>>16933389
>which is for kit/show cars
banned as a show car. that was illegal

Looks like I win again.

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>mfw americans have to go through loopholes to get a car
>mfw I see an R34 at least once a day
>mfw I drive an R34

feels good mane

>>16933398
Its not even a legal loophole. Its still illegal regardless if the DMV, State, or insurance company acknowledges it

If its illegal to the feds, its illegal everywhere regardless

>>16933398
nope

http://www.dmv.org/other-types-of-vehicles.php

you can build any car you want.

PROTIP: ricing faggots importing one car in two pieces does not count as building your own car.

>>16933392
>THE DMV DOES NOT SUPERSEDE THE FEDS.

Unrelated, but I know people dumb enough to believe shit like this. One of my friends works on a weed farm in CO, unironically thinks that the current administration can not shut his entire livelihood down in a heartbeat should the whim strike them.

People are actually dumb enough to believe state law trumps federal law. It took 45 minutes to explain to him how our government works, quoting from the Constitution directly the entire time.

>>16933397
>the DMV gave him the title
>still got crushed

You
>just get a title from the DMV
>it won't get crushed
LOL. The entire point is the DMV WILL NOT give you a title that holds up to the FEDERAL STATUTE. It doesn't matter. Conversation over. Show me ONE OUNCE of proof that you are correct. Just one. Show it. Right now. Prove it with anything valid. Show me an R34 that was legally registered and FED approved through your scheme. Show me. Show it. Show one.

>>16933396
Based, thanks for the info btw. Also now that the dust has settled for me, are R32 gtr's a good buy? Or just an overpriced rust bucket?

>>16933398
You should see the legal loophole dogshit I have to jump through to get an AR-15 in New York that is "safe act compliant" makes cars look like mere jigsaw puzzles

>>16933406
>http://www.dmv.org/other-types-of-vehicles.php
LOL
"f you own a vehicle that is different than your standard car or truck―like a snowmobile, RV or motorhome, custom-built car, or an all-terrain vehicle (ATV)"

In no world is reassembling a factory car considered a "custom built car". Just ask Hennessey how that works, with their lotus.

>>16933409
it's not an R34. it's an American car that is inspired by one.

this is the source of the misunderstanding: you're a nigger and you will never navigate the law with skill.

>>16933396
>would suggest Japanese classics over in Virginia, but they never have GT-Rs
They do actually, I almost bought one from them back in November.

They come up pretty infrequently though, and every one has sold the day it was listed. You need to make a deposit within hours, no joke.

>>16932895
>How do you ruin a skyline
Stanceshit and other forms of bozushitter shittycan vippo hellafuckts, starting on LS swaps and giving up halfway because it isn't just $500 and an afternoon, and general "JAY DEE EMM TYTE BRO" masturbation over them and the hiking up of prices because you cunts will pay a small fortune for them.

And I'm certain there's more to it too. You people are regarded as the automotive equivalent to niggers in terms of car culture.

>non gtrs are garbage everyday young boys toys in every country that got these
You'll see some nice examples here and there. Not every Skyline is an R33 with mismatched panels and horrible aftermarket bodykit bits and 19-inch nigwheels.

Why do you guys jerk off over one fucking set of cars from the 90's?

>>16933418
>In no world is reassembling a factory car considered a "custom built car"
duh, I said so here >>16933406 can you not read? here, I'll say it again for you, nigger

>PROTIP: ricing faggots importing one car in two pieces does not count as building your own car.

>>16933421
You're welcome to argue that to the authorities. It won't work, though, and your car will still be impounded, anyway.

"Inspired by" =/= "functionally identical"

>>16933423
Here are the only two decent ones they've had in the past ~6 months. First one was in November, the second was more recent and sold instantly.

https://www.japaneseclassics.com/vehicle/1990-r32-skyline-gt-r/
https://www.japaneseclassics.com/vehicle/1991-nissan-skyline-gt-r-2/

>>16933421
Yeah, play that car with the fed. With your R34 chassis, drive line, suspension, interior. That will TOTALLY fool them. They will be like, "DANG, you got us! It's not an R34 anymore because you took it apart and put it back together. Good job!"

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>>16933414
Sorry to hear that, here in Florida I can have anything really, besides you know post 86 machine guns, and tracer ammunition (nobody really cares, just go to a gun show and buy it)

>>16933398
Fuck off, I might not be able to go to black ops and buy my R34, but I sure can go into my local freedom store and pick u pas many guns as I want, and then indulge in my freedoms, doing something like deny the holocaust without getting arrested.

>>16933437
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

Read plutarch, you ignoramus

>>16933437
Why don't people just replace the engine, suspension and a few other things while keeping a few parts stock?

What defines a "car" by federal guidlines anyway?

for guns, an AR-15 is defined by its lower receiver only, no other features. The lower receiver is the "gun"

Why not take an R34, replace those things with different parts? Sure its not original but in all flavors beyond the law its an R34

>>16933445
yawwnnnn
>but muhh paradox FEDS!!!!
>did you not read the wiki feds?

This is what we call grasping at straws.

>>16933449
I'm telling you that in America you can build any car you want. Go to the DMV like an adult.

Just don't try to import that shit from Japan. That is the part that's illegal.

>>16933445
You're not replacing components, though.

You're simply taking it apart and putting it back together. If you do that correctly, guess what, it's the same fucking thing. You're so fucking stupid that you're going to mess something up though, so MAYBE it might work in your case.

Retard.

>>16933454
The DMV is a state office, not a federal one.

>>16933449
Because the chassis is not up to code either.

And you can take an r34 chassis, an rx8 engine, and s2000 suspension if you want. But if the chassis doesn't meat federal crash standards they can still crush it.

>>16933453
No it's just a fact. I can build any car I want, and no one can stop me. No one is going to give me shit because my car looks like it's from the Fast and the Furious as long as it has proper papers.

You're so obsessed with me because you can't build a car.

>>16933460
why not take a similar chassis like on the R33 and put an R34 body on it?

>>16933421
bahahaha now youre changing youre tune, the only melanin enriched person here is you.

keep on shitposting, youre still wrong and everyone here knows youre wrong

>>16933457
shhhhh. He thinks they have magic powers to over ride the Fed. He also thinks you can just talk your way out of owning an R34. Lol.

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>>16933455
No. I'm advocating building one from the ground up from your own components. Including creating your own monocoque. But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you?

>>16933460
would taking another chassis and putting R34 parts into it make it an R34 or the chassis of what ever car came before it?

>>16933463
Because the body doesn't meet crash standards (and light standards, height standards etc).

>>16933476
>this nigger is talking about laws for selling cars again.

this is the problem all along. youre a nigger.

>>16933461
what car do you own? or better yet what car have you built?

>>16933461
By the time you've fabricated every part personally and slapped it all together, R34s will be legal to import directly, and you'll have spent probably $60k+ more building your own deathtrap than you would have spent importing.

You are, without a doubt, one of the dumbest posters to ever visit this board.

>>16933472
They generally go off the chassis since that's where the vin is. But it would just end up a kit car title anyways.

>>16933481
Haven't built a car. Only a plane.

I'm thinking an All American R34 is my next project.

>>16933469
where are you going to get the money for that? it would literally cost way more to do that

>>16933490
Are you serious? Building a car is one of the cheapest solutions. Dealerships are out there raping people.

>>16933487
welp by the time you start it, an actual R34 GT-R will be legal to import.

>>16933494
Hey, asshole. Go build your own car.

You're going to need to furnish crash test/safety data of your own if you ever want to get it registered and drive it, so you better build multiples. Go shitpost somewhere else.

>>16933494
since when are you buying an R34 Gt-R from a dealer and not a private seller?

i mean if you have all the tools necsssary, i guess. but most people dont

>>16933500
No, no, no. He's going to USE other manufacturers stuff. Then claim they are ripping everyone off, even though he wouldn't be able to "build" his car without them. He's not actually going to make the engine and all the parts by hand.

>>16932746
i dont really understand what kind of a statist cuck you have to be to be a police officer that would crush someone's car just because of a fucking stupid law
like seriously

inb4 >muh rule of (dumb) laws

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>>16933510
>He's never cast his own block
Yes. I am going to do just that.

As well as using a bladeless turbine wet transmission. (you don't know what this means, haha)

>>16933514
its not the police coming after you, its the feds as in ICE aka immigration and Customs Enforcement, all they need is one tip youre driving an illegal car and youre fucked

>>16933514
The same kind that would happily fine you for driving without a valid registration, raising money for the local government and writing my own paycheck in the process.

>>16933500
>You're going to need to furnish crash test/safety data of your own if you ever want to get it registered and drive it
No you're a liar. You need crash test data if you want to sell your car to others. You're a nigger.

>>16933532
why do you keep calling people a nigger, its weird and childish. i understand this is 4chan but are you 13 years old or something?

>>16933514
Local police wont (necessarily) do it, but the feds definitively will

>>16933524
LOl sure pal. Go right ahead. Cast your own engine components. Every nut and bolt. Every wire. Every piece of plastice and gear. We'll all wait for you to replicate the R34. Can't wait for your build thread.

>started out that you can legally import an r34
>then went to you can build one
>then went to you can make your own
>then went to literally making every part of a car by hand at home because it's "cheaper" than the dealership


Is it really that hard for you to admit when you are wrong?

>>16933544
why would I cast my own bolts? you're absolutely hysterical. Please calm down.

>>16933544
yeah dudes an idiot

>>16933540
it's because you're a lying nigger. You're spreading disinfo online about building cars, when it's an incredibly easy process.

You are not a corporation. You don't need crash tests to drive what you build. That's what freedom is about.

>>16933532
Dead wrong, but whatever.

You're also now talking about a kit car, and not an R34.

Why is it that the "niggers" are the ones instructing you not to violate federal laws? How many felonies have you committed, exactly?

>>16933562
None. I built my plane to code and passed inspection.

Didn't have to crash test it either, because I actually know what I'm talking about.

>>16933562
oh and you're a nigger because you think building a car is illegal

you're also a cuck, because you probably believed clickbait articles.

brainwashed little stooge with no mechanical skills.

>>16933568
That's an entirely different set of regulations for an entirely different class of vehicle, with an entirely different agency and set of regulations governing the process, retard.

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>Import a R32
>Install Bee*R R32.4 kit

>>16933558
im not the person you were arguing with, just watching the thread, enjoying my popcorn. Direct your negative energy towards actually building an R34 GT-R and maybe it'll get done instead of anonymously calling people niggers on a cantonese bread kneading forum

>>16933574
Planes are just the next level. That's why you see plane engines in higher end cars. You know nothing.

>>16932780
Midnight purple is a very rare color for this car. 57k miles is way too much to justify 150k price though.

>>16933576
MMMMM Cantonese kneaded bread.

This thread has gone off the rails from one retard.

>>16933576
okay, remember this post in a few months, because I'll take photos of it.

>>16933575
Aside from the rear tail lights being off (and the interior of course), it is a really good imitation

>>16933582
the FAA strongly disagrees with this.

>>16933575
heres a cool fact one of the first r32 gtr's imported to USA had the bee r r34 front end conversion on it. and boy that shit was ugly. also cop owned

http://www.motortrend.com/news/first-legal-r32-nissan-skyline-gt-r-u-s-cop-owned-wvideo/

>>16933601
really? go on. I don't think you've got shit, though. you're still clueless.

>>16933609
You didn't register your fucking plane at the DMV did you, retard? It's not the "next step up." Definitionally, planes are a different class of vehicle with their own rules.

>>16933628
no I went to planes "R" us

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=47&t=1307984&i=0

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>>16933657
instead of using shafts, I'd switch em out for flexible ones.

Everyone in this thread is fucking retarded.

Here are the facts about importing the R34:

1. You can't do it right now outside of the MNP2 VSpecs that all got snapped up as soon as people figured out what the fuck the "R34 VSpec Early" was on the approval list for Show and Display import.

2. You can buy a Motorex R34 for insane money.

Those are your two legal options. Black Ops is not running a legal operation. They bring the cars in illegally and title them in Florida. If you try to take it to Ohio or California or any other state that requires valid import to register the car you will get nailed.

You cannot get anything else into the country legally. The US government will never approve the R34s as far as crash safety is concerned due to Motorex fucking up everything. That's all there is to it. Everything other than the Motorex R34s and the MNP2 VSpecs will have to wait until 2024.

If you want Skyline GT-R now, your options are the R32 GT-R, show and display R34 GT-R, Motorex R34 GT-R, and 1996-1998 GT-Rs imported through JK Technologies.

At this point though I would just wait another 3 years for R33 GT-Rs. The 1995s are super cheap and as far as performance goes they are a lot faster than the R32s.

If you really want the look of an R34, get the BeeR 334 body kit and slap it on an R33.

>>16933892
Yeah..... Literally all that has already been said dude. You're not a thread savior. KYS. Also JK isn't the sole importer of those R33's. It says so right on the NHTSA website.

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>>16933892
what if i told you you were wrong

>>16934024
post country and bread on inner door panel

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>>16934073

Wisconsin, USA

If you dont believe me theres a fucking tractor in the background of this picture

>>16934272
Looks like a show car to me.

>>16934282
ok, wont post any more then

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>>16934298
I mean, is it?

If so, that's entirely legal and you're not only posting something that was discussed to death in this thread, you're waving your own dick.

Nice GTR, still pigfat tho.

>>16934312

If he owned a gtr i doubt he'd be hanging around the honda general all night.

>>16933920
Do you actually follow the reality of the industry? JK was never compelled to release the information on how to make the R33 legal for import. They have a monopoly on doing the compliance work even if legally they don't.

Unless you want to crash test everything all over again it's not happening.

>>16934272
Motorex import? I fail to see how I'm not.

>>16933582
>Plane engines in higher end cars
Why would anybody do this. Plane engines are generally ancient gas guzzlers with 10x the displacement of a modern engine and twice the weight for the same horsepower.

>>16935740
Bragging rights and you can say that you have a spitfire engine in your shitbox so it goes fast

>>16935740
You're a fool. Literally as we upgraded the automobile, we dropped old plane engines into cars. The v8 - plane engine. the straight 6 - plane engine.

>>16935881
And then as cars moved past planes in engine development it stopped making any kind of sense.

>>16935947
No, that's stupid and you're stupid for even thinking it.

There are still plane engines on the road, and next upgrade will be plane engines once again. This is how technology works. Advances in other sectors.

>>16935947
Also I can tell you're a pee dribbling littel faggot because you ACTUALLY think Plane engines are gas guzzlers. You fucking MASSIVE retard.

You should quit talking until you actually learn. You're just spewing bullshit right now. Go learn. Go read a SINGLE book

>>16932983
here in the united states cops wont hassle you if you follow the rules dont make a scene and stay under the radar

its like the saying goes: its not against the rules if you dont get caught

>>16935966
also if you somehow manage to get your hands on an R34 it would make the most sense to just sit on it for 7 or 8 years until its fully legal to register/import

there is no law against owning one of these vehicles in the states, there are laws against insuring, registering, and driving them on public roads

if you can buy one cash (finance companies require that the car is insured if financed) you can let it sit in your garage/yard or even trailer it to a racetrack and use it there (provided the racetrack doesnt have insurance minimums you must meet)

this is how paul walker was able to own one within cali

>>16935963
I'm the guy who called them gas guzzlers, not the guy you're responding to.
First off, I'm a student pilot. Right now, I'm studying plane engines and I've come to the conclusion that they're great because they're really reliable, and that's about it. If you're talking about common GA plane engines like Lycomings, they're absolute dogshit when it comes to hp/l and fuel consumption. If you're talking about less common engines, please specify them.

>>16936184
I should add, part of the reason they're so reliable is because they run at very low RPMs compared to car engines, and are massively overbuilt in comparison. That's why a O-540 only makes 300HP while weighing as much as an LS and having 9L of displacement.

>>16936184
>>16936205
They're not fucking dogshit at fuel consumption. It simply takes more fuel than a car to keep a plane in the air, and your perspective is skewed because of that - because you're a retard.

When you run a plane engine in a car it obviously needs less fuel to move efficiently.

>>16936219
>Carburated engines from the 1950s as efficient as modern engines

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>>16936234
because I said that?

You're a fucking nigger.

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>>16936236
>hours later
>still calling people Niggers, when proved you are wrong.

really made me think

>>16936236
How about you convince us why aircraft engines are better than modern auto engines, o wise one?

>>16936184
>First off, I'm a student pilot. Right now, I'm studying plane engines and I've come to the conclusion that they're great because they're really reliable, and that's about it. If you're talking about common GA plane engines like Lycomings, they're absolute dogshit when it comes to hp/l and fuel consumption. If you're talking about less common engines, please specify them.
A Cessna Skyhawkl has a range of 640nm on a lycomings 180hp engine and a cruise speed of 124 knots

Thats pretty fucking good for a plane that is that stupidly light. HP/L doesn't mean fuck all for planes and its far better to measure actual range than all that shit.

>>16936263
>better
no. they're the same.

When planes get better engines. they make cars with all the old engines. That's how it's worked for over 50 years.

>>16933273
Some people just want an R34, though, because they can't have one

>>16936291
This

BMW used to make only jet engines with turbos, they then took turbos and put them in their cars like the BMW 2002

>>16936284
I know it doesn't mean fuckall for planes and that these engines are used in planes for very good reasons. It means something when you try to stuff a plane engine in a car.

>>16936302
What car uses a Lycomings engine?

>>16936302
read >>16936291

you're totally ignorant on what variables are at play in fuel economy. But I don't have to teach you that: I just have to make you see that our cars have had plane engines for 50 years.

>>16936291
Planes have to meet insane validation requirements vs cars. The engines they use are from the 70s and still need leaded gas to work.

Gasoline engine technology in cars is not coming from planes.

>>16938326
hello newfaggot who has no clue. welcome to the ignorant party where you know even less shit than every other dumbfucker.

The modern automobile was built by aviation.

>>16936291
>When planes get better engines. they make cars with all the old engines. That's how it's worked for over 50 years.
LOL no

the lycoming O-series, still used in all kinds of light aircraft these days, was designed in the 50's

>>16936296
>jet engines with turbos
what the fuck am i reading

>>16938350
Just pretend a jet engine is one giant turbo and it makes sense.

>>16938334
We aren't talking about WW2 era cars. I'm talking about modern cars. They are universally more advanced.

>>16932616
Before purchasing ask for customs paperwork. If it was brought in properly it should have it.

If it was converted to meet NHSTA requirements ask to see documents that work was completed.

If they say its legal because its state titled walk.

>>16938448
>another arrogant nigger who thinks he's hot shit
Chrystler did it in the 60s.

So did Rolls Royce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Merlin

>>16938466
no need for the answer did you go thru this shitshow of a thread?

OP got his answer a few posts in

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>>16932898
>Kia Soul
Check mate, atheist.

>>16938538
I'm talking about modern cars you fuck.

Show me gen aviation with an engine that has continuously variable valve timing and lift, direct injection, wideband O2 full time closed loop AFR control, closed loop ignition timing learning, twin scroll turbos, engine speed control purely by valve lift control, and computer controlled port water injection to prevent knock and reduce intake air temperatures.

I know that in the past engines from aircraft were adapted to cars. I don't care about that because ever since commercial and military went to jet turbines aviation with piston engines have been in a holding pattern with designs from the 60s or 70s at best.

>>16932616
dont be a faggot and buy an overpriced car that will be seized by kikes who have nothing to do but seize cars and crush them

stop being a faggot and just import an R32 and put the R34 front kit and kustom fag the rear yourself

>>16939683
respect the carburetor

>>16939721
Carbs are impressive mechanical devices but my point is that as soon as piston engines stopped being used in commercial and military aviation, the technology stopped leading car engines. Car engines continue to need reciprocating engines due to their superior transient response and as a result they've developed far beyond general aviation.

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>you have to wait 30 years to import a car
>but the cops literally give no fucks here

>>16939453
Of anything that is proof that the designers at Kia HAVE no soul