>Tesla cucks on twitter actually defending this The new Tesla

It will be interesting to see the end result of this vehicular appliance direction in automotive engineering.

That steering wheel design is so fucking ugly.

>>16918926

Everything about the interior is ugly. Slapping a gigantic screen on the dash and literally nothing else is disgusting.

>>16918934
true

Numbers are hard as fuck to read at a glance in comparison to a needle on a dial.

>>16918934
Everything about Tesla is ugly.

It's funny because it's a cost cutting measure in what's supposed to be the coolest new electric car so of course the cucks will defend it as innovation and the way of the future.

Tesla is just like Apple was a couple years ago. The Apple hivemind has died off a bit with Jobs tho but it looks like Elon is gonna pick up where he left off.

it really is the ultimate in cuckmobile

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I don't give a shit. It's a Tesla. It's not like I'd buy one for any other reason than the novelty of it.

>>16918893
using a tablet while driving would net you a ticket for distracted driving
>but it's ok to have a dash that is just a touchpad, complete with ads and media because it's green

thanks Obama

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I fucking hate the future of cars

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>Tesla
>No gauges
>Listening to Johnny English soundtrack

Literally nothing to see here folks, just your normal cuck

>>16918893
It's a car with automatic updates. I'm not surprised.
I dont get people's fascination with touch screens. They're fucking nasty and look like shit.

wow this is bullshit

>>16918893
>tesla in charge of aesthetics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4

>>16918893
Fuck i hope this touch screen only shit doesnt become more popular

>tfw interior aesthetics will never be roomy, simple and beautiful again due to safety regulations, tech and modern trends

>>16918946
ergonomics in automobiles seems to be dead.

>>16919301
>I dont get people's fascination with touch screens
"WOW, SO CLEAN, SO MINIMALIST SO FUTURE, SUCH SLEEK"

>>16918893
>implying cucks on twitter can have a say in cars.

most of everyone on twitter is a no car bus riding or uber/lyft passenger degenerate. but of course i'm generalizing again.

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>>16918893
desu central consoles aren't always bad. This is a big no-no though.
>glossy screen
>offset from the driver
>lcd screen to look at your speed
>everything is controlled from there
imagine the glare and how distracting it will be to use that thing while driving
there are much more elegant solutions if you want to omit the gauge cluster behind the wheel, such as a HUD

>>16918893
I've driven Teslas before and its not like it had gauges in the first place, its just missing one more fuckhuge tablet.

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>tablet breaks (and it eventually will)
>cant do ANYTHING

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>>16918893
Digital dashes should've been the final stage. easy to read in any light, and within your periphery

>depending on the screen
I get everything is drive by wire but a screen susceptible to glare is a fucking mistake, is there at least a HUD?

>>16918893
What IS this playskool bullshit? I've been behind on my car news.

>>16919366
hadn't thought of it from this point even though I always hated the tablet, now I hate it even more
and it sounds like a sensible point Scotty would make, btw

>>16919378

Nope.

Elon seemed pretty irritated about people asking for one on twitter because they 'won't need it'

>>16918946
This is fine. Now cucks can watch their wives get fucked by other men while checking their speed.

>>16919371
there's a reason digital controls/gauges have always died out whenever manufactures try to push them.

>>16919359
It's not glossy

>>16919378
The only thing by wire is the throttle, just like every other modern car, and the screen isn't susceptible to glare.

>>16919388
lel Elon is a sperg as usual.

He wonders why people get mad when they buy an $100K car and it has a $25K interior. Motor/tech aside people have base expectations.

I know the model 3 is far less but the interior is still cheap and fucking stupidly designed with the "STICK A TABLET" there mentality. It's far worse than anything Audi or mercedes has done just because of size and the lack of a traditional cluster.

>>16919387
>Be sitting at home in living room
>Faintly hear "rev up your engines" from outside
>Don't think anything of it
>Probably just a guy playing with his kid or something
>Start hearing a rumble
>Gets louder
>Definitely a car engine, probably a v8
>keeps getting louder
>Loud as fuck now, literally sounds like he's going 100mph right outside my house
>Hear the loud, unmistakeable screams of the tires as the driver slams on the brakes in front of my house
>Lasts for a good 15 seconds, shatters all the windows on the front side of the house
>Go to see what the fuck it was
>Looking through the shattered window in my foyer
>Its Hillary Clinton driving a fucking big block v8 C3 Corvette with side piping
>Skid marks all the way around the curve on the road leading to my house
>I then hear her bellow "ITS TIME FOR THE SCOTTY KILMER CHANNEL!!!" At quadruple digit decibels
>Shatters the rest of the windows and mirrors in my house, also destroys my eardrums
>Rushed to hospital afterwards

Thank fuck she lost the election.

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>>16919371
>gm cucks think having digital dashes in 2004 is worthy of mention
lmao

>post yfw FCA does it again

>>16919401
>It's not glossy
lmfao are you blind? look at the pic in the OP
>>16919403
>He wonders why people get mad when they buy an $100K car and it has a $25K interior.
lol
minimalism has been bastardized by people who overcharge and use it as a excuse for being cheap

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>>16919398
it didnt seem to stop tesla from putting on an ipad in the middle of the dash though

>>16919409
i didnt claim GM did it first. but i do like digital dashes in general

>>16919405
kek

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>>16919424
get on my level fag

>>16918946
My car has an analog speedo and digital. I never use the needle.

>mr. bean

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>>16919424
I loved the digital dash in the 90s Lincoln Town Cars. Parents had one and it was an awesome car. Drove like a boat but comfy as fuck especially the seats.

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Better than the prius desu

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>>16919435
>>16918893
>>16919359
>>16919424
>>16919409
you are like little baby, watch this

>>16918946
I've always preferred digital speedo and analog tach. That is what my motorcycle has and it seems like a really good combo for info at a quick glance

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The only way I'd buy a Tesla would be if Uwe Gemballa was still alive and I could get one modded by him. That guy knew how to use screens in a smart way and would also surely add his own gauges and refurnish the whole thing. The screen behind the wheel gets its video feed from the cameras mounted in place of the mirrors for better aerodynamics.
>>16919455
>when even the old prius has a better and more thought out interior

i mean, center gauges isn't that bad

i just don't get why they dont slap a HUD in there like mazda did, way less plastic and almost no moulding, just gets simple data from the central screen

if they go to production like this i'll be confused

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>tfw when i unironically want a tesla because I am an engineer that admires good engineering anywhere and the Tesla is superb from that standpoint
>they do gay shit like have computer monitors in cars

literally no point to it, actually i think it is less-efficient in any regard

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>>16919461
wew laddie
I knew some crazy Lancia instrument clusters but that one takes the cake (although it's not digital). Pic related is better than SAAB at being SAAB :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lARL5a3i6og
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtneC9Rfe8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMkGgcIVcxk

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>>16919405

kek'd, thanks anon

>>16919478
>Uwe Gemballa
On February 17, 2010, it was reported that Uwe Gemballa had gone missing in Johannesburg, South Africa while on a business trip. In October 2010, Uwe Gemballa was found shot dead in South Africa.[13] It is suspected that his murder was a result of a money laundering operation which turned against him.[14] On October 29, 2010 Thabiso Mpshe, 28, from Pretoria, pleaded guilty to charges related to his involvement in the murder of Uwe Gemballa in Johannesburg. Under the terms of the plea agreement, he was sentenced to 20 years in prison. [15] In 2015, three additional men, Thabo Mogapi, Kagiso Ledwaba and Garlond Holworthy, were also convicted of charges relating to the kidnap and murder of Gemballa. Their sentencing hearing is expected to begin on 30 November 2015.

kek what a gangster

>>16919524
tbqh I'd have done the same if I was him
I want to do dirty business just for the sake of it

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>tfw nigger-engineered Kiira EV has a better interior

>>16919478

The Tesla interior looks way better than the Priuses though

>>16919605
it doesn't, kek
and that's quite remarkable, a new low

It's literally becoming an appliance.

>>16919626

but it does

>>16919445
C L A S S Y
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>>16919675
depends on what Tesla you are talking about.

because if you are referring to the model 3 interior, fucking kys.

>>16919675
>thinking making everything minimalist to the point all you have is a steering wheel and a screen is cool

Yeah you're really fucking dumb.

>>16918893
I agree that this is stupid, and I personally think it is more difficult to look slightly to my right than directly in front of me for ANY guage information (Hate that fucking cooper set up), but I kind of understand why they are doing it this way. Saves weight, less to program, less electrical use, etc.

I would argue that an inovative schmuck company such as Tesla should have put a monitor on the steering wheel that rotates to remain up right with the turning and the center console would be completely void of anything except storage space. Then, they could sell an upgrade accessory that allows the co-pilot to plug in a Tesla approved monitor directly in front of them that can stow safely and cleanly away into one of the storage bins, in the event you have people like me and my girlfriend who likes to do all the radio, stalactite, air controls, etc and I focus on shifting, corner speeds, and apex's.

>>16919716
>stalactite
Sorry, that is supposed to be satellite.

>>16919715
>>16919701

Leather barebones > plastic opbesity

>>16919715

PS, it's not that the Tesla is cool or good, it's that the prius is really bad, and objectively worse looking in every way

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>>16919163
>I fucking hate the future of cars
All the data that the company wants gets sent back to the database. That's the other problem about all these modern internet type cars. Even if they don't give you internet wifi (some do such as onstar), the cars themselves use cellular to send the data to a database.

The usa House of Representatives just voted to repeal a major key internet privacy law. So companies have a lot more access to data that was formerly protected. Now the ISP can collect and sell your internet browsing history. It doesn't matter if you use https because the address in the header of internet data packets still needs to be correct and visible for the routers.

It won't be long before your car tells your insurance company when and where you were speeding, doing excessive G-force hooning, or driving on unsafe roads. That data will probably be in the next privacy law reversal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/03/28/the-house-just-voted-to-wipe-out-the-fccs-landmark-internet-privacy-protections/?tid=pm_business_pop

Since the Senate is in favor of removing various restrictions, it looks likely there will be a comprehensive bill developed for the privacy law change.

>>16919758
You're not wrong there, I agree. The gulf in price difference between the two is where you loose me in the argument desu.

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>mfw my 1998 VW Golf mk3 shitbox has a more comfortable looking and useful interior than a """""""""luxury"""""""""" car

>>16919716
>personally think it is more difficult to look slightly to my right than directly in front of me for ANY guage information
Hopefully you would be looking at the road. So glancing at your gauges would be a look down.

Glances down and side to side are very quick. Diagonal glances take twice as long for a given distance. Since the gauge is diagonally down from straight ahead the distance is greater than straight down. A gauge check will take at least twice as long.. maybe even three times. Enough time for something to happen, like a child running out in front of.

Musk will be the biggest baby killer of all time, mark my words

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why couldn't they just do the whole "hologram" thing like in the Chevy Camaro Z1 or whatever?

>>16918946
Numbers aren't hard to read but they look pretty tacky. I hate my Honda's interior because the speedometer is a big digital display with fatass numbers smack in the middle of the dash to make sure your dumb ass can read it.

>>16919745
made me kek

>>16919758
The Tesla is even worse

>>16919797
>It doesn't matter if you use https because the address in the header of internet data packets still needs to be correct and visible for the routers.
I thought the only visible address for them was the server address (domain). Are you saying they get the whole URL?

>>16919901
well dude, it's basically an A3 without leather

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>>16920150
>trickle down luxury is a thing now

>>16918926
Well, its supposed to be the econobox Tesla, so it's not THAT big of a concern.

Actually I love this, it looks and get this ... I don't have to fucking dust out my gauges. It's a good choice. Peoeple need to stop fucking over with this. People who complain this much have some sexual tension that needs to be released.

>>16920209
It's always been a thing.

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>>16919901
Damn bro that interior is CLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAn

>>16920230
I was memeing and samefagging (>>16920150
and >>16920209)
Nor VW nor Audi are luxury btw
VW is just a normal brand and Audi a premium brand (except for the R8, that's luxury)

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>>16920239
what exactly are you saying?

>>16920262
>those cassette holders
WANT

much better than having the stupid amerilard tier cupholders btw

God damn that stupid computer moniter in the car is going to really fuck with your eyes at night. Imagine having to look right at a bright light from the dark raod everytime you need to check your speed.

I can't believe people will buy this.

Its literally a screen mounted in the car.

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>>16919901
>>mfw my 2000 renault laguna shitbox has a more comfortable looking and useful interior than a """""""""luxury"""""""""" car

>>16920305
>I can't believe people will buy this.
>Its literally a screen mounted in the car.
I have bad news for you anon, people have been buying those for a long time already

>>16920228
Found the muskfag
Go back to fapping to hyperloop promo videos faglord

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I can't wait to bask in the schadenfreude as these gadget fetishists find out their precious ipad car retains resale value worse than a mercedes.

>>16918893
that car is so fucking disgusting in that picture

>>16919797
>fake news
it just gives responsibility to the FTC

>>16919461
My god that upholstery is terrible.

>>16919461
Jesus christ did anyone ever think that looked good?

>>16919490
I fucking agree man, I really wanted the Model 3 to be successful since autonomous driving and electric cars are the way of the future.
The Model 3 was going to be the affordable family car that just happened to not use gas.

Now people are going to test drive it, see they have to read their speed out of a fucking ANDROID DIALOG BOX, and do a 360 and walk away. It's probably one of the worst interiors imaginable.
You blew it, Tesla.

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>>16920310
posting interior

>>16920535
>>16920557
Concept car

>>16919797
>Now the ISP can collect and sell your internet browsing history.
You were naive to think this wasn't ready happening and the fact that google ads are tailored to your search history is proof enough.

>>16920730
>since autonomous driving and electric cars are the way of the future.
bullshit, studies have shown most Americans don't want anything to do with autonomous cars and all these high profile crashes will only reinforce that lack of interest.

>>16920913
You seriously believe that since most Americans aren't interested in autonomous vehicles now, that they won't ever become the standard?
In the early 1900s, most people had no interest in owning a horseless carriage. Expensive, noisy, smelly, etc. In time the technology matured, like self driving cars will, and riding in a horse-drawn buggy was obsolete.

Just at the beginning of the decade, autonomous cars were largely science fiction. Now they're practically around the corner. Nobody's going to force you to give up your self driven car for a long time, but you can't deny the benefits of autonomous vehicles.

>>16921027
Will autonomous vehicles be able to handle the increasingly hazardous road conditions that will become the norm as the US' infrastructure continues to crumble?

>>16921027
>In the early 1900s, most people had no interest in owning a horseless carriage.
I live around people who still use horse carriages on a daily basis.


>can't deny the benefits of autonomous vehicles
Any vehicle that will gladly kill me to save someone else i will never own.
i will off myself before i become a cuck and have to be treated like a baby and carted everywhere by a computer.

>>16921064
so you admit you'll become a cuck?
you're already a cuck in spirit then

I really like Teslas (especially the Model S) but this is very retarded.

I'd understand ditching classic gauches for a "futuristic" HUD of some sort, but having to glance at the huge ass tablet in the middle? Fuck no

Ticket Tesla drivers for distracted driving WHEN?

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DUDE OVERMINIMALISM LMAO
This meme is becoming far too widespread. UI everywhere, now cars.

>>16921763
Live free or die Teslacuck

>>16920886
>You were naive to think this wasn't ready happening and the fact that google ads are tailored to your search history is proof enough
Kek, learn how the internet works.

>>16921786
> tablet

Isn't it just a Chinese computer screen?

> be car manufacturer
> start using computer controlled gauges because cheaper than real ones
> start having a single screen for the whole cluster to be cheaper
> import cheap touch screens and plonk in centre of dash to be cheaper

People that buy this shit sent buying innovation, just cost cutting measures

>>16921855
all the marketing is expensive

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plebs

>>16918946
Really? The HUD on my BMW shows it just fine. Haven't looked at the speedometer in a good while.

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>>16918946
>Numbers are hard as fuck to read

I wonder how many dongles I'd need to change that hideous steering wheel

>>16918946
WRONG!

>>16919381
The future.

>>16920150
The first gen A3 was a mk4 Golf though

>>16918946

7

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>>16918893
>literally slapped a tablet on the center console

What starcucks slurping hipster imbecile designed this shit?!

>>16920886
Responding to this because you're retarded

Google ads are tailed to your GOOGLE SEARCH HISTORY

Google has literally always made money by selling your search history to advertisers. Did you really think they were giving away the world's greatest search engine for free?

>>16919403
Elon Musk is a fucking faggot and doesn't care about the automotive industry just "muh superior self driving technology"

I have absolutely no desire to have a car that self drives itself. It's a fucking boring idea. So many other things he can do with that technology. What a waste of a brain.

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is that fuckin mister bean? and life is a highway, Tesla neck yourselves

>>16919582
No armrest, looks retarded

>>16922457
>Google ads are tailed to your GOOGLE SEARCH HISTORY
That's what the fuck i said.

>>16921855
Agreed, and ironically it ends up cluttering everything up because to access anything you have to go through layers and layers of counterintuitive menus. Just look at Windows XP and the ones after it. Back in the day you were one click away from adjusting your network connection properties (clicking on the animated computers icon)

>>16922668
Yeah, Google probably isn't your ISP you fuckwad

>>16921989
Interesting that it has the Laguna 1 phase II wheel (which is more aesthetic than the Laguna 2 wheel imo). And yes, it's patrician as fuck.

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>>16920239
90s VW was pretty great

>>16918946
>implying you don't have to look at the numbers by the needle

>>16923410
80s VW>90s VW

>>16918893
>johnny english playing

Typical cuck

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>>16920262
pre 2000 interior is pure sex

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>>16923895
More like pre 1994
>those disgusting vents

>>16919163
>posting a modern Challenger
Okay, at least you're not posting a Grand National then it'd be really obvious that you're just cynical to an idiotic degree.

>>16919301
I don't understand why people say out their opinions like if they're the only ones in existence, or if they even matter.

>>16922632
Just like your waste of a post.

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>>16918946
>Numbers are hard as fuck to read

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>>16924417
at least it's better than my waste of [spoiler]dubs[/spoiler]


>inb4 some autist points out there's no [spoiler] support in /o/

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>>16924439
you embarrass me
this is how you do it
PRAISE KEK

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>>16924439
>>16924453
check em plebs

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>>16924439
These are the only spoilers on /o/.

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You have 10 seconds to post a better dashboard

>>16918893
>I got an idea guys
>lets ignore for a moment that we have to make our cars last longer on the roads
>lets put a gigantic fucking bright ass tablet in the middle of the console thats gonna draw a fuck ton of battery
>no way I dont wanna use otherwise electricity free analog dials or any of that

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>>16924458
was getting singles part of your plan?

>>16919797
Joke's on them, I drive a 90s shitbox

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>>16924471
Of course!

>>16924480
lol it's you again my friend
banamera best borsche

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Did somebody order dubs?

>>16919505
Pratish taste

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>>16924486
You're damn right it is.
Also crashing this plane... With no survivors!

>>16919582
That's absolutely disgusting

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>>16924495
Ayyyy nice
it's definitely you

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>>16922437
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

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>>16919582
Colour alone makes it worse than the Tesla

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>>16924462
Mansory is arab-tier tasteless bling bullshit. Look at how proper tuning is made.

>>16922437
>starcucks slurping hipster imbecile

It was probably the exact opposite. Looks like the kinda solution an engineer would come up with when you're halfway through design and need to approximate a functioning dashboard ASAP so you can work on something more important. Then you get cost-cutting and rushed schedules and your manager says "that tablet thingie works, yeah? We need this design out the door, just stick it on the dash and be done."

>>16924566
>i don't know how engineering works: the post
an engineer is supposed to make things failure resistant, ergonomic and safe to operate

>white leather

>>16924523
>arab-tier tasteless bling bullshit

Maybe the wheel, but the rest is GOAT. Meanwhile your interior looks like it's made out of the same material used in plastic garden furniture.

>>16924588
>t. guy who actually doesn't know how engineering works

You're not gonna design the dashboard first. It's entirely likely that at some stage of designing/testing, you're gonna need to output the dash info onto a computer screen. And this sure as hell looks like that stopgap solution was incorporated into the final design.

> an engineer is supposed to make things failure resistant, ergonomic and safe to operate

Yeah, just like Challenger wasn't supposed to blow up and the Gleno Dam wasn't supposed to collapse.

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>>16918893
>oval steering wheel
>center dials

FUCKING REEE

The only benefit of a oval steering wheel (atleast that I can think of) is that you can see the dial(s) in front of you perfectly even if you turn or have your hands on the top of the steering wheel

>pic related. It doesn't come across really well in the picture but the wheel isn't perfectly round, it's slightly oval shaped

>>16918893
gauges are archaic and unnecessary for modern driving.

>>16924509
yeah but this still has the classic instruments in place

>>16924642
>Yeah, just like Challenger wasn't supposed to blow up and the Gleno Dam wasn't supposed to collapse.
that's failed engineering at work
>You're not gonna design the dashboard first. It's entirely likely that at some stage of designing/testing, you're gonna need to output the dash info onto a computer screen. And this sure as hell looks like that stopgap solution was incorporated into the final design.
it's not like the interior designer is the same guy designing the rest of the car

>>16920001
it's not hard to read but analog gauges are much easier to understand at a glance

thats why they still have them on aircraft, nuclear reactors, etc
places where you need to understand things instantly without having to think about it

cars should be the same

> tons of people buy overpriced model S and X's to fund a cheap(er) tesla shitbox for poor people
> the cheap(er) shitbox model doesn't even have a dashboard

lmao
m
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>>16921063
That's completely outside the scope of this discussion.

>>16921064
>I live around people who still use horse carriages on a daily basis.
And? That's like .005% of the population, and it also shows that you will probably still be allowed to drive your own car even when virtually no one else does.

>Any vehicle that will gladly kill me to save someone else i will never own.
That's not how autonomous cars work. They don't understand the concept of killing people, they're just programmed to survive and protect their occupants to the best of their ability.
Given the choice of hitting a ped or a bus, it will hit the ped since it's a smaller obstacle and likely to incur less damage. Doesn't really differentiate between a person, cactus, llama, or tall cardboard box.

>become a cuck and have to be treated like a baby and carted everywhere by a computer
Only cucks own a washing machine. Real men take their laundry out to the shore and beat it against rocks. Only cucks own a calculator, real men do 12 digit long division by hand. Only a cuck baby would have their car drive itself on the everyday commute, real men enjoy starting and stopping 25 times in 3 miles.
Autonomous cars are a more efficient way to do things. Don't worry, riding in one is not an affront to your fragile (perceived) masculinity.

>>16924652
My ex owned one of these.
The interior is shit and the ride is shit, but the placement of the speedo makes it very easy to see while driving.

>>16924839
>That's not how autonomous cars work. They don't understand the concept of killing people, they're just programmed to survive and protect their occupants to the best of their ability.
>Given the choice of hitting a ped or a bus, it will hit the ped since it's a smaller obstacle and likely to incur less damage. Doesn't really differentiate between a person, cactus, llama, or tall cardboard box.
And you know this how?
>Only cucks own a washing machine. Real men take their laundry out to the shore and beat it against rocks. Only cucks own a calculator, real men do 12 digit long division by hand. Only a cuck baby would have their car drive itself on the everyday commute, real men enjoy starting and stopping 25 times in 3 miles.
>Autonomous cars are a more efficient way to do things. Don't worry, riding in one is not an affront to your fragile (perceived) masculinity.
>implying there's an equivalence between those
lel cucks in denial
>Only a cuck would have Jamal fuck his wife, real men make her come 15 times.

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>>16924495
>>16924506
PLANE?

>>16924915
>And you know this how?
Because there haven't been any groundbreaking AI advancements that allow computers to view the world like we do.
A robot can't see a man sitting on a bench and go "yep, that's a man on a bench, and if I hit that, he will probably die".

They don't really "think" at all, they just follow sets of pre-programmed instructions. They're roughly as intelligent as an ant.

>Only a cuck would have Jamal fuck his wife, real men make her come 15 times
You can't even manage to mock me properly, and if the act of fucking your wife is comparable to a menial chore, you cucked yourself long ago.

>>16918893
Don't see a problem. I drive a Yaris, the gauges are in the center of the dash, further away from your field of view than this... and I have no issues with it.

If you can't keep your head/eyes on a swivel, you really shouldn't be driving.

>>16925032
Yes, well, when your car can only hit 25 mph it's a bit different.

>>16919405
kek/10

>>16919582
Huh. A floor mounted parking brake that you operate with your hands. What a weird design

>>16925090
It's a Yaris type R tho...

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Honestly Lexus had it right with the first to third gen LS. simple, clean, brightly backlit so you can see it in any conditions. a LOT of new car are doing gauges like this now, just usually more flashy,

>>16925199
>type R
so its been honda swapped? even slower than stock

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>>16918893
Has anyone bought a tesla and made it a huge disgusting gasser yet?

>>16925199
Oh so 30 mph. My bad

I never use them anyway

>>16925243
bet its faster than your car bitch

>>16925298
ooooooh drag race oooooooh ooooohhhhhhhhhh

>>16925306
bet u don't even have a car faggot fucker

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>>16925322
mad

>>16925298
But I could probably beat your Yaris by jogging. What's the point?

>>16919366
>>16919387
electronics have shit durability and aftermarket support. you have to go back to tesla to get it fixed, on tesla's terms. the car isn't really yours at that point--elon's just letting you use it.

>>16918946

>t. nigger

>>16918893
Tesla cuck's don't even know how cars work.

Why would you expect them to understand ergonomics.

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>>16918893
ITT: Stupendous amounts of asshurt

Sit and think about it for a few seconds, you idiots. How often do you need to scan your gauges - especially in an electric car? Other than speed - which if you have any experience at all with driving, you can practically feel or if you need visual aids, you just match the speed of the cars around you (called 'going with the flow of traffic') the only other thing you need to give a fuck about is the amount of charge you have left. Both of these bits of information are of the sort that don't need to be constantly monitored unless you have some problems because you're on the autism spectrum.

Lastly, you have your GPS map which if you want to be able to quickly scan it, needs to be big, so put it in the middle!

>>16922004
You brain processes the position of needle quicker than doing the simple math to calculate your speed.


Its kind like how understanding something visually is easier than reading it.

>>16925597
Because Tesla drivers are Dagumi-level racers. Totally.

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>>16919405
Cheers

>>16925641
>you need to be a racer to feel speed

I scan my gauges a few times a day when I'm curious how much gas I have left. Other than that I match the flow of traffic, so no reason to check my speed.

I think the only time I bother to check the speedo is when I pass a cop.

Haven't had a speeding ticket in over 15 years.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla had an option to have fuckhueg speed numbers on the tablet so you could just read it peripherally if you had the autisms.

Otherwise, since you have a big GPS map which people *do* regularly scan, may as well put your speed and charge level indicators on it.

>>16925705
Yes, but Tesla drivers think watching movies while driving is acceptable. Maybe driving by feel is a bit too highbrow for this crowd.

>>16925597
>being this much of an apologetic shill
There are literally zero reasons to not put either a digital cluster or a HUD in front of a driver. Saying no to both provides zero advantages and forces people to adapt to the atrocious iPad. Not to mention that the latter basically becomes a single point of failure in the car. Basically this whole design decision is there to force people into running Autopilot and furthering Tesla's business goals. Despicable.

>>16925733
>literally zero reasons to not put either a digital cluster or a HUD in front of a driver
First thought: RHD/LHD manufacturing becomes simpler as the same dash can be used in both

>>16925733
>>16925747
Second thought:
/o/ is always bitching and moaning about reduced visibility and high beltlines, but when someone comes along and chops a few inches off of the sight line in front of the driver by eliminating the gauge hump, this is all of a sudden a problem?

>>16919582
that interior looks over weight

>>16925772
lol it looks like it was upholstered in Fat Mexican Girl's Ass.

>>16925758
Now the dash is ugly and I can't read my gauges. I'd rather just have dash clusters on both sides of the car.

>>16925747
>>16925758
RHD/LHD cost savings are negligible. Steering column/pedal port are there anyways. HUD preserves visibility while providing necessary info.

Elon, please stop shilling and being a greedy jew. Just add an HUD projector to Model 3 and make me happy.

>>16925784
>ugly
merely opinion
>can't read my gauges
why do you need to read your gauges frequently in the first place?

Putting the info where people are going to look anyway (the huge, easy to read GPS map) is a simple and practical answer.

>>16918893
my digital dash shut down the other day, said it exceeded safe temps.

It wasn't even 90F. Summers here usually sit around 105. What sorta poofter shit is this? Had to drive around the city guessing my speed and hoping the engine temp was doing fine cause I had no fuckin warning lights.

Fuck your shitty digital tech. Fuck it up its stupid asses.

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>>16925807
>Putting the info where people are going to look anyway
I don't look there because I'm focused on the road. And yes I do glance my gauges fairly frequently. Speedtraps are a thing I drive through frequently enough to want to know how fast I'm going.

This is a nice-ish interior in an EV that cost a whole lot less than a Tesla. I'd rather have this in a 100k car than a fucking iPad.

>bmw releases a second get of i-series
>yfw even fucking bmw interiors are better than tesla's

>>16925841
I would rather the money went into ride quality, performance enhancements and range extension than cute but unnecessary gauges.

>tesla

>>16919366
>>16925547
so how many tablets were broken in teslas during these past years?

>>16925923
A 8 inch LCD screen costs Chevy like $40, there's not a lot of ride/range/performance enhancements for $40.

>>16922652
You really need glasses, anon.

>>16925923
Well GM already does two of those better than Tesla. All of them if you're willing to count hybrids and regular ICE vehicles as well.

>>16925923
>EVcuck "excuses"

>>16919461
what the fuck am i looking at?

>>16918893

If Tesla is so cool and techno, why no HUD?

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>>16926679
>what is google reverse image search
Lancia Stratos HF Zero concept

>>16926694
checkmate athiests

>>16923402
No fucking shit, all i was saying is that companies have been watching what you do online for a long time now.

God you /g/fags are so autist you can't wait to misinterpret a post huh?

>>16924839
>and it also shows that you will probably still be allowed to drive your own car even when virtually no one else does.
I fucking better.

>Only cucks own a washing machine. Real men take their laundry out to the shore and beat it against rocks. Only cucks own a calculator, real men do 12 digit long division by hand. Only a cuck baby would have their car drive itself on the everyday commute, real men enjoy starting and stopping 25 times in 3 miles.

You're god damned right.

There's a refreshing lack of kit kat klub ITT

>>16927000
Maybe he crashed his rocketship of a motorcycle

>>16927021
kek
>muh EFI
will he be the next treequinox?

>>16927026
If you see any wreackage photos with a snapchat caption on it then that has to be him.

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>>16927055
ayyy lmao

>>16919478
that stick look like a penis lol and big as nut sack hahah めっちゃおもしろいな!笑

>>16926996
Real men enjoy having control over their lives.

>>16927283
>japanese """"""penises""""""
Is it customary for you guys to have a tumor in the dickhead?

>>16919354
They're not even minimalist. Just strange.

>>16921947
If they had a proper marketing team, this wouldn't have happened lol

>>16924462
Easily the worst interior I've ever seen.

>>16918893
As an American, I feel the need to point out that there are no visible cup holders in that image. What the fuck Elon? Furthermore, if there are cup holders under one if those panels in front of the fuckhuge tablet, do I have to call tesla when I inevitably stomp the brakes at some point and spill my diet coke on it?

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>>16924610
All of it's crap, especially that tasteless centerpiece.

>>16919405
she'd probably be admitted to hospital after over-exerting herself from turning that steering wheel

>>16927388
How so? Their marketing team will convince the apple tier teslacucks that this is great and innovative design and they'll flock en masse to buy it while it's just corner cutting being sold as innovation

>>16919401
>It's not glossy
>you can literally see through the left window by looking at the reflection on the screen
lol retarded tripfags

>>16918946
t. someone who has never owned a car with a digital speedo and has only driven a rental car with it one time

>>16919455
>millions of people willingly bought this abomination
>for thousands more than a Corolla

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>>16927594

>>16924462
The photoshopped in background makes it look like it's from a horror film. About ugly interiors.

>>16928053
kek

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>>16926679
You're looking at Micheal Jackson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jXoaJdbkns

What the fuck is the point of all this shit? You can just clip your phone on and it would be more functional than even the best infotainment system.
Are companies this retarded or are they just adding in another thing to "fix" after the warranty runs out?

>>16924509
every new mercedes and BMW shoved a screen up top which looks like a shitty Android tablet imo

>>16919490

>>tfw when i unironically want a tesla because I am an engineer that admires good engineering anywhere and the Tesla is superb from that standpoint

>Tesla is superb from that standpoint

You're not an engineer.

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>>16928753

Don't worry anon, the Italians and their superior taste saved the day again.

>>16927021
>rocket
>FZ6
NO LITER NO PETER

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>>16928824
Uruguayan Alfista here, although no car does it as perfectly as the Giulia, the new S and E class aren't as bad although they're still autistic and you can tell it's basically a tablet with a leather wrapped shroud. C class is the extra autistic one (although the W204 was pretty good, but they went full autistic with the W205). The steering wheel on the S class is absolutely disgusting though.
Now, BMW... kek, I'll spare you the comments. Same for Audi.

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>>16930452
>Now, BMW... kek, I'll spare you the comments. Same for Audi.
The stupid thing is Audi had a perfectly good setup going in the B8 A4, but they just completely fucked it up with the B9.

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>>16930469
Mercedes did the same thing with the C classes I mentioned. The materials are probably nicer but if the design sucks who cares really (also maybe these are different trim levels so IDK if it's really the generation that is nicer or not)

>>16930536
It pisses me off that they'd axe a perfectly functional and aesthetically pleasing design just because DUDE TABLETS LMAO.

>>16930536
Jesus those tablet head units are cancer

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>>16930545
Same. Praise Our Lady Giulia!
>>16930546
ikr

>>16930536
Is there even a gear selector in the second one? REEEEEEEEEEEE

Cabin in this thing will be a bare, boring, poorly made mess.

But who cares when there's epic cowbell memes?

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>>16930559
That's exactly what the B9 A4 should've been, maybe a bit less rounded here and there.

Instead we got this bullshit.

Problem with the Model 3 is $35,000 starting.

The average transaction price will be around $50k probs. It won't be the revolution people think it will be.

I'm sure it will be a good car to drive as Teslas tend to be, but it isn't the beginning of the Electric era.

Leave it to Merc, VW et al when they have their new sub-brands fully up to speed in 2020. Remember that Teslas are bought by tech fans, not car fans. It'll take a big player with petrolhead rapport like VW to truly take electric mainstream.

>>16921989
Say it with me

BIG

FRENCH

SHIT

>>16924509
New Audi cabins are excellent imo.

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>>16919359
Lets talk about the gear selector in that French piece of shit. Took a perfectly decent econobox and turn into a steaming pile of shit. Classic frog move

>>16918893
When I need to use gps on my car, I put my phone vertically on the dash, which makes it very easy to read. Having it to the right on the window distracts me.

>>16930571
kek, and they even scoffed at MB's "old luxury" in their ad showing the screen that hides itself
fucking Audi admitted they pander to the nouveau riche population. If I were you, I'd look somewhere else when I get my next car. They also did a wage gap ad and then debunked it themselves when pressed about the issue, kek.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rXgunKqtKQ
This fucking ad works better as a Mercedes ad than as an Audi ad, it's ridiculous.

>>16930616
>autotragic
No such thing happened on the manual

>>16930634
I don't despise Audi like the rest of /o/ seems to, but if I were in the market for a brand new car I'd seriously consider a Giulia over an A4.
Cadillac ATS isn't sold here and a glossy plastic mess inside.

>>16930676
>I don't despise Audi like the rest of /o/ seems to, but if I were in the market for a brand new car I'd seriously consider a Giulia over an A4.
If I had 80k right now a Giulia QV is what I'd get.
I do despise Audi though, the idea of a FWD luxury car is self defeating.
>Cadillac ATS isn't sold here and a glossy plastic mess inside.
On the plus side you can fit any aftermarket head unit and it will look right at home lel

>>16930676
I'd take a Giulia over a 3 Series as the current one is from 2012, but the new A4 is pretty nice.

Of the performance models It'd be the Giulia cloverleaf outright.

>>16919359
The dash on this car was terrible, but the interior space alone was worth it
t. family goy

>>16930693
>what is quattro
Giulia is a better sports car, but your /o/tism is showing.

>>16930712
how is it so terrible
>>16930704
>the new A4 is pretty nice.
>fwd
>with that autistic tablet on it
opinion discarded
Alfa>Porsche>Benz>Cadillac>BMW>Chevrolet SS>Audi

>>16930693
Only Audis worth anything are the S/RS models and ones with Torsen AWD, """"Quattro Ultra"""" can fuck right off as it's basically longitudinal Haldex.
Their Torsen-based AWD is still one of the best on the market.

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>>16930724
>what is quattro
A meme
>>16930728
They're still designed based on the FWD version, so weight distribution sucks. Alfa has perfect 50/50.

>>16930727
>comparing brands as a whole
>benchracing teenager: the post

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>>16930727
>Alfa>Porsche>Benz>Cadillac>BMW>Chevrolet SS>Audi
actually let me make a modification to my list
Alfa>Porsche>Benz>Cadillac>BMW>Chevrolet SS>Volvo>Audi

>>16930738
>A meme
btfo!!!!

>>16930727
>how is it so terrible

Both screens were impossible to read when it was sunny
The plastic was glossy and reflective, in sunny days all you could see was the reflection of the interior in your windshied
The fucking thing is offset so you have to take your eyes off the road to look at the speed
No tach
Lamps behind the screen failed every other week
Screen was barely readable at maximum brightness

GIVE ME ACTUAL DIALS

>>16930738
More like the FWD version's weight distribution is terrible because they need to fit the Quattro system as well.
Like the Giulia QV forms the base for all Giulias, the Quattro version is the base for all Audis (except the A3/TT).

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>>16919475
same, it's definitely the best configuration. Especially if you have the shift lights.

>it's another autistic teenager shits up the whole thread with FCA shilling episode
>inb4 I was only defending muh heritage against le evil BMW fags
When will you fuck off already?

>>16930756
Nah. They even do a 40/60 on the center diff to compensate, but there's still some noticeable understeer. Audi's are great overall with a fuckton of utility, but certainly not the spotiest things out there.

>>16930744
>implying audi isn't one sausage different lengths
also the comparison is true for each segment
for example:
Stelvio>Macan>GLC>X3>Q3
>>16930753
oh that sucks, I expected it to be better with those shrouds
>>16930756
It's terrible with the quattro system anyways. Audis are FWD based so they have the front axle too far back.

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>>16930773
mad that alfa is superior in this regard once again

Reid Bigland ITT right now

He's a big guy fells, don't fuck with him

>>16930799
>Audis are FWD based
Alright, I'll humor you a bit more. If they'd design the FWD versions first (Quattro based on FWD version), why would they not just go with a transverse engine layout?

The FWD versions have stupid engine placement so they have to make minimal changes to the Quattro version, they basically fit a transmission with the center diff removed so it only drives the front wheels.
Hell, there have been multiple cases where you could just bolt Quattro bits onto an FWD model and turn it into a Quattro version, just like that.

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>>16930807
>car is always in repair shop so the owner can shill and post frogs all day long
Damn FCA being superior again.

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Nowadays only Mazda can do good shit.

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>>16930756
>>16930799
Oh BTW 4matic>quattro
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/c-class-w204/139684d1221740131-quattro-vs-4matic-4matic1.pdf
https://mbworld.org/forums/attachments/c-class-w204/139685d1221740131-quattro-vs-4matic-4matic-2.pdf
>>16930773
As you can see I'm not just doing "FCA shilling" but setting the record straight.
>>16930825
They know they have to make FWD versions, so they can't just do a RWD style AWD design. That's why you look at a Merc or a BMW and it has the front axle placed much forwards.
>>16930841
nice meme
Busso masterrace
>good
kek, I'll take the base model, thanks

>>16930863
>>good
>kek, I'll take the base model, thanks
meant for >>16930858

>>16930863
>4matic>quattro
>posts actual Mercedes marketing material
Quattro is mechanical, 4Matic is electronic. Again, Quattro """"Ultra"""" can fuck off.

>They know they have to make FWD versions, so they can't just do a RWD style AWD design
Bit more complicated than that. Most RWD-based AWD systems have a differential next to or underneath the engine, leading to either the engine (and with it the CoG) being raised up or a driveshaft running through the sump or block.
Audi places their entire driveline in a straight line, which results in the engine being pushed forward more than one might like. Then for the FWD version they pretty much just fit a transmission with the center diff removed, so the engine stays in said position.
Both methods have their own drawbacks and advantages.

Fuck you i like it
It looks Dope and is functional
Fuck off boomers go drive your 60's cadillac the future is now

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>>16930915
>4Matic is electronic

>>16930915
>Audi places their entire driveline in a straight line, which results in the engine being pushed forward more than one might like. Then for the FWD version they pretty much just fit a transmission with the center diff removed, so the engine stays in said position.
As I said, FWD based design.
>Both methods have their own drawbacks and advantages.
The drawbacks of Audi's outweight any possible advantages it might have.

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>>16930950
>g wagen
>4 matic

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>>16930950
>>16930959

>>16930915
4MATIC uses a center diff too, in fact it has 3 diffs

>>16930957
>As I said, FWD based design
Except it's not. It's a pretty elegant system really, even power distribution between all wheels with minimal extra bulk (driveshafts and diffs mainly). Just the engine, transmission, rear diff, and front- and rear halfshafts.
Hell, it was good enough for Subaru to use a similar layout and have massive success in rallying.

When they introduced the Model 3, I thought that the interior was a prototype. But no, apparently they decided to not put anything there, starting with the instrument cluster.

>>16931009
Rally conditions favor understeer

>>16931023
Well there you go, Audi spent a lot of time on their rally program (only to get BTFO by the Italians, let's get that one out of the way) whereas Mercedes and BMW were obsessed with various forms of circuit racing.

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>>16931036
>only to get BTFO by the Italians, let's get that one out of the way
kek, it's like a bad joke by now

>>16931184
>it's like a bad joke by now


>why did the german lap the track?
>to watch the italian get the trophy

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>>16920824
Lagunas are sexy cars.

>>16931415
considering what kind of shit gets posted nowadays, i'm genuinely unsure whether this post is a bait/troll/whatever

>>16931438
I do like them anon.

>>16931463
i think they're pretty fucking ugly but who am i to judge

>>16925979
>what are setup costs vs. mass production reduced costs

That 8 inch LCD, the surrounds, the mounts, all the dash hardware cost hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars to produce. Since they make an fuckton of them, they can spread that cost across the production run.

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>>16918893
>problem glasses

>>16931415
indeed they are
>>16931438
pleb
>>16931491
I bet you like A4 soapboxes

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>>16918893

The interior of a fucking Chevy Bolt looks 1000x better than this.

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>>16931746
>Bolt

>>16931809

>smug anime face

Not an argument.

>>16931809
shoo shoo anime faggot

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>>16931814
it's called VOLT
>>16931831
I don't even watch anime

>>16931839
You posted a anime picture. That makes you an anime loving queer

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>>16931874
Nah, I just like to trigger people who are like me. Smug anime girls are a very special form of trolling deeply rooted in imageboard culture.

>>16931892
>admitting to trolling outside of /b/
enjoy your b&

>>16931839
Volt = hybrid
Bolt = EV
Delete your posts

>>16931928
Shit, I feel like an idiot now. Why did GM have to do another marketing shitshow? But I won't delete shit, Hillary.

>>16920239
>ear guage

DUDE

>>16931839

You really are a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

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>>16932745
I didn't know there was a "bolt" until today. I'm pretty embarrassed.

>>16919435
Shitt

>>16931746

More like Chevy Screw, cause you're going to screw those oil companies well.

>>16933819
>implying the oil companies don't invest in clean energy
>implying the "oil companies" aren't actually energy companies
lol

>>16931928
They're both EVs. One just has way less electric range than the other.

>>16933831
As long as it's renewable, I'm good with it.

>tfw no Bolt
:(

>>16924668
nope, its a screen